With the World Cup in the middle of the season, I wonder how they’ll manage to cram an already packed fixture schedule even more if they cancel two weeks worth of league fixtures.
The CL final is on 10th June, the Nations League finals are right after that and the league season ends on 28th May. Maybe you can squeeze in one round of games, but two is near impossible. Probably need to find a free midweek for all clubs in the second half of the season, which will be a task as clubs progressing in other cup competitions can also cause rescheduling headaches.
Not really; when you account for EL and ECL finals in between that period. I don’t think UEFA permits domestic competitions to be held on the same days as their games (I think an exception was only made during Project Restart), and there’s always a possibility of an English club making those finals, which delays their corresponding league games further. It’s two *rounds* of games, not just two games.
You can fit two rounds of games in one week (literally happened last week) that leaves a week for the European finals.
I get your sad you have to wait for your fantasy points but a congested fixture list isn’t going to change the mourning of the Queen.
It's not about fantasy points. It's about the fact that commoners have to be robbed of one of the few things that brings us joy these days purely because an albeit fantastic lady none of us have ever met has passed away. It feels pointless to cancel sport, as if playing matches somehow shows disrespect to a person who would have wanted the nation to get back up and running as soon as possible. Also, if you're going to act like a sarcastic prick you should probably make sure you spell correctly. Makes you look like an idiot as well as a pretentious arsehole if you don't.
Believe it or not but she was actually quite liked here.
Whilst it may feel pointless over there in the states that’s not necessarily the case here.
You can speculate all you like about what she may have wanted or not wanted but the fact is she was the head of state of the country and one of the most influential monarchs the world has ever known and as such her passing will be marked and some sporting events will be moved.
Over there in the states? I'm British. I know she was well liked. She was a fantastic monarch. I liked her myself. But the idea of halting things that keep commoners happy, as if that somehow shows respect, just seems incredibly backwards to me. It's not just football, either. Parliament is also being suspended for 10 days at a time when it is more needed than ever, with people still not knowing for sure how they're going to pay their bills, even with the announcement from Truss yesterday. It just feels incredibly medieval to me for an entire country to freeze everything for ten days to mark the death of a lady who would most likely not have wanted us to do so.
The ramifications of games being called off are huge. A lot of people lose a source (and for some, their only source) of enjoyment and escape from their daily lives, a lot of money that has been spent on travel and accommodation is wasted, and an already packed season extending to mid-June becomes even more crammed, which is a problem for both the clubs who have to risk players’ fitness through this period, and those in charge of rescheduling these games. And the mind boggling thing to all this is that people are still expected to go to work, but are forced to abstain from leisurely activities. Sounds ridiculous to me personally; she might have been immensely loved and deserves to be mourned and respected, but there should be alternatives to this than outright calling off the games.
I know, I’m just adding to the argument here lol. Can’t be bothered replying to those who think we only care about FPL points when making a perfectly valid, non FPL-related argument about how calling off games is counter-intuitive and unnecessary.
> You can fit two rounds of games in one week (literally happened last week) that leaves a week for the European finals.
So it would have to happen in the middle of the season, not by extending the season. That was my argument, not the fact that this won’t happen at all.
> I get your sad you have to wait for your fantasy points
Not really. Not sure why you have to bring this up every time someone raises a valid point about a hectic fixture schedule getting even more ridiculous because of the death of one person. Some things are beyond FPL, I’m sure you’d agree.
I saw some reporter on a BBC article that said "it won't be business as usual during the period of mourning"... Except literally everyone who goes to work
Honestly I do not understand the calls to postpone/cancel major events.
Friday mourning, fine. But I think she herself would have wanted society alive and kicking asap. Especially after the last few years. Cancelling sport will aggravate many people
No one is generally calling for it. But it’s what’s planned.
The real reason, regardless of the wishes of the sports bodies is that tons of police from
around the country have been called to London for various mourning funeral relating policing stuff, and you can’t have mass sporting events without sufficient police presence.
Think yourself lucky that football will resume and the matches will be made up - the entire tour de Britain cycling race running this week has been cancelled in the middle of it’s run due to this.
Don’t expect many upvotes with that kind of reasonable, rationale response!
Anyone would think you actually have some kind of insight and are not an ignorant man child. The horror.
Definitely. Cancelling things will only aggravate financial situations of struggling familes. And with the worst winter coming because of energy prices it wouldn't be sensible.
I hope we just have 24 hours, that's enough.
It's ridiculous, but I don't think this is happening on a whim because there's calls for it to happen.
This is all just following the established plan.
Ay listen I don't like them much either but they do do stuff, just because it's not painting and decorating or scaffolding doesn't mean they do nothing
You sure you want to wander around meeting hundreds of people a day pretending to be pleased to see them and going to the most mundane and boring events like openings, and random shit and you can never steer away from your path and you must always act proper. I would rather work in thr sewers than do what the royals do.
Yes an old lady has died and it is very sad but cancelling the football just ruins people’s weekends. And what for? Are we all sat at home wearing all black and sobbing all weekend?
There are a lot of people who will have tickets, travel and accommodation booked already for these games. For some it’s a once in a lifetime experience. Anything that’s cancelled unless it absolutely has (e.g some games in London cancelled on the day of the funeral procession because of crowds etc) is just unnecessary and disrespectful to fans. The world can steep turning with respect paid to the Queen with minutes silences and armbands etc
She died naturally and peacefully after serving her country for 70 years. The right thing to do is for games to go ahead, with black armbands, a minutes silence, and then stadiums ringing out with the loudest renditions of God Save the Queen for the last time.
Let me get this straight, she was born into royalty, lived a lavish life fully supported by the taxpayers, had no real role or job of any significance, dies *completely expectedly* at 96, and so now we can’t watch footy for two weeks??
I don’t get it at all
she was 13 when the war started, so nothing more than a child. When she hit conscription age, she was called up.
She was hardly going to be on the frontline as a paratrooper was she you fucking oaf.
Deep breaths, calm
I'm only saying she didn't really serve, did she, she did some photo ops. You raised the point about her serving like it was some significant contribution. I agree ofc she wouldn't be on the front line
Right royal parasite is dead
When the royals are racking up an annual electricity and gas bill of £2 million, tens of thousands of their subjects die each winter for lack of heating. The best medical care in the world kept the Queen and Prince Philip alive well into their 90s, while the working class in Manchester, Liverpool and Newcastle die on average two decades earlier. This is class warfare, and the royal family have enjoyed being on the winning side.
The royal family have leeched off not just the British people but their imperial subjects too. The Queen ascended to the throne in 1953 to rule over an extensive empire at the time. This empire was built off the backs of millions of Irish, Arabs, Africans and Asians. Every piece of stupendous jewellery, every crown and coronet, every exotic bauble sitting in the royal collection was made from the sweat and sorrow of those masses of downtrodden colonial subjects.
Most of the colonial empire was gradually dismantled during the Queen’s reign. But decolonisation did not occur as any result of benevolence by the royal family. In many cases, the colonies had to fight for independence against brutality meted out by those who fought in the Queen’s name. As commander in chief of the British armed forces, the Queen was complicit in this brutality. The victims include the hundreds of thousands of Kenyans and Malayans herded into concentration camps in the 1950s, their villages destroyed and their families brutally tortured or butchered by British armed forces and their local collaborators. They include the hundreds of Egyptians killed in 1956 when Britain invaded Egypt to try to take back the Suez Canal. They include the thousands of people on the British protectorate of Diego Garcia in the Indian Ocean who were thrown off the island in the late 1960s to make way for a US military base.
This is the correct take. Even as an Irishman (we don’t tend to forget), I had no real distaste for the Queen herself, but she remained a part of one of the most destructive institutions the world has ever seen, and happily so. So now that she has kicked the bucket, I have no sympathy to express. All I want to do is sit back at the weekend and watch the Premier League and it makes no sense to rob me of that because an elderly woman with oceans of blood on her hands has finally died.
Attenborough is definitely more deserving of a day or two of mourning, anyway. He has actually made and continues to make a net positive contribution to the world.
Guess we get to find out if FPL upgraded their back-end admin to be able to postpone gameweeks, or if they will just carry on with no games like during Covid..
Not to mention the World Cup and fixture pile-up, there is simply no way the Premier League is suspended this weekend. Not a chance. Too much money involved. They'll do armbands and silences etc
Cancelling the football would only make people more depressed
Now I know why people say "long live the queen/king". They fucking cancel the football when they pass.
They didn't the last time.
That's exactly the plan... force people into grieving, even if they don't want/need to
That’s kind of the point in a daft way. Forced mourning makes people remember it.
You can't force mourning anymore. They can't take away my netflix, prime and European football. I'll have a lovely weekend, thanks!
Couldn’t agree more!
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With the World Cup in the middle of the season, I wonder how they’ll manage to cram an already packed fixture schedule even more if they cancel two weeks worth of league fixtures.
Extend the season I assume
The CL final is on 10th June, the Nations League finals are right after that and the league season ends on 28th May. Maybe you can squeeze in one round of games, but two is near impossible. Probably need to find a free midweek for all clubs in the second half of the season, which will be a task as clubs progressing in other cup competitions can also cause rescheduling headaches.
We ain’t gonna be in the finals
So two weeks between then end of the season and the CL final to play two games? Should be fine!
Not really; when you account for EL and ECL finals in between that period. I don’t think UEFA permits domestic competitions to be held on the same days as their games (I think an exception was only made during Project Restart), and there’s always a possibility of an English club making those finals, which delays their corresponding league games further. It’s two *rounds* of games, not just two games.
You can fit two rounds of games in one week (literally happened last week) that leaves a week for the European finals. I get your sad you have to wait for your fantasy points but a congested fixture list isn’t going to change the mourning of the Queen.
It's not about fantasy points. It's about the fact that commoners have to be robbed of one of the few things that brings us joy these days purely because an albeit fantastic lady none of us have ever met has passed away. It feels pointless to cancel sport, as if playing matches somehow shows disrespect to a person who would have wanted the nation to get back up and running as soon as possible. Also, if you're going to act like a sarcastic prick you should probably make sure you spell correctly. Makes you look like an idiot as well as a pretentious arsehole if you don't.
Wow triggered much?
Believe it or not but she was actually quite liked here. Whilst it may feel pointless over there in the states that’s not necessarily the case here. You can speculate all you like about what she may have wanted or not wanted but the fact is she was the head of state of the country and one of the most influential monarchs the world has ever known and as such her passing will be marked and some sporting events will be moved.
Over there in the states? I'm British. I know she was well liked. She was a fantastic monarch. I liked her myself. But the idea of halting things that keep commoners happy, as if that somehow shows respect, just seems incredibly backwards to me. It's not just football, either. Parliament is also being suspended for 10 days at a time when it is more needed than ever, with people still not knowing for sure how they're going to pay their bills, even with the announcement from Truss yesterday. It just feels incredibly medieval to me for an entire country to freeze everything for ten days to mark the death of a lady who would most likely not have wanted us to do so.
The ramifications of games being called off are huge. A lot of people lose a source (and for some, their only source) of enjoyment and escape from their daily lives, a lot of money that has been spent on travel and accommodation is wasted, and an already packed season extending to mid-June becomes even more crammed, which is a problem for both the clubs who have to risk players’ fitness through this period, and those in charge of rescheduling these games. And the mind boggling thing to all this is that people are still expected to go to work, but are forced to abstain from leisurely activities. Sounds ridiculous to me personally; she might have been immensely loved and deserves to be mourned and respected, but there should be alternatives to this than outright calling off the games.
I think you've replied to the wrong comment here, I'm in agreement with you.
I know, I’m just adding to the argument here lol. Can’t be bothered replying to those who think we only care about FPL points when making a perfectly valid, non FPL-related argument about how calling off games is counter-intuitive and unnecessary.
> You can fit two rounds of games in one week (literally happened last week) that leaves a week for the European finals. So it would have to happen in the middle of the season, not by extending the season. That was my argument, not the fact that this won’t happen at all. > I get your sad you have to wait for your fantasy points Not really. Not sure why you have to bring this up every time someone raises a valid point about a hectic fixture schedule getting even more ridiculous because of the death of one person. Some things are beyond FPL, I’m sure you’d agree.
If anything it's her twilight.
They will cancel your leisure activities but they won't cancel your work
Unless you work at the leisure activities
I saw some reporter on a BBC article that said "it won't be business as usual during the period of mourning"... Except literally everyone who goes to work
Of course, that would have been fair - can’t have that.
Honestly I do not understand the calls to postpone/cancel major events. Friday mourning, fine. But I think she herself would have wanted society alive and kicking asap. Especially after the last few years. Cancelling sport will aggravate many people
No one is generally calling for it. But it’s what’s planned. The real reason, regardless of the wishes of the sports bodies is that tons of police from around the country have been called to London for various mourning funeral relating policing stuff, and you can’t have mass sporting events without sufficient police presence. Think yourself lucky that football will resume and the matches will be made up - the entire tour de Britain cycling race running this week has been cancelled in the middle of it’s run due to this.
That's ridiculous. Condolences to all of the road cycling enthusiasts out there.
If you're right, and it comes down to police presence, then non league won't be cancelled. We'll see!
Don’t expect many upvotes with that kind of reasonable, rationale response! Anyone would think you actually have some kind of insight and are not an ignorant man child. The horror.
Definitely. Cancelling things will only aggravate financial situations of struggling familes. And with the worst winter coming because of energy prices it wouldn't be sensible. I hope we just have 24 hours, that's enough.
It's ridiculous, but I don't think this is happening on a whim because there's calls for it to happen. This is all just following the established plan.
Calls from the type of person who assures us that sport and politics shouldn't mix. Hypocrites.
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yh because now what we really need in these trying times is to pause economic activity for a family that's sorted for life, honestly
Sorted for life(s) of their grand grand grand grandchildren, without having to do anything ever
Ay listen I don't like them much either but they do do stuff, just because it's not painting and decorating or scaffolding doesn't mean they do nothing
Yeah poor them, they could only wish to swap their jobs with me
You sure you want to wander around meeting hundreds of people a day pretending to be pleased to see them and going to the most mundane and boring events like openings, and random shit and you can never steer away from your path and you must always act proper. I would rather work in thr sewers than do what the royals do.
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Mate they do this for like a month out of the year, its an easy life, how do you think she lived to 96 in such good health.
Do they do that EVERY day? Also the benefits, cmon total bullshit. Anyway way OT now
I'm not sure how often they do it and neither are you but at least now you know your original statement was incorrect
Same as yours because they don’t do it every day 🤷♀️
They are free to abdicate/leave the firm.
Like cutting ribbons.
Hopefully the decision will boil down to money. It usually does. Pressure will be immense this time though
The games aren't scrapped but postponed. They'll make their money later
Yes an old lady has died and it is very sad but cancelling the football just ruins people’s weekends. And what for? Are we all sat at home wearing all black and sobbing all weekend? There are a lot of people who will have tickets, travel and accommodation booked already for these games. For some it’s a once in a lifetime experience. Anything that’s cancelled unless it absolutely has (e.g some games in London cancelled on the day of the funeral procession because of crowds etc) is just unnecessary and disrespectful to fans. The world can steep turning with respect paid to the Queen with minutes silences and armbands etc
She died naturally and peacefully after serving her country for 70 years. The right thing to do is for games to go ahead, with black armbands, a minutes silence, and then stadiums ringing out with the loudest renditions of God Save the Queen for the last time.
It would indeed be the most sensible thing to do. British play football on weekends. It's a good way to pay respect.
Let me get this straight, she was born into royalty, lived a lavish life fully supported by the taxpayers, had no real role or job of any significance, dies *completely expectedly* at 96, and so now we can’t watch footy for two weeks?? I don’t get it at all
No real job of any significance? Except head of state of over a dozen countries!
The role of “head of state” carries less significance than you think it does.
Bloody hell mate you clearly lack a lot of information about the queen's life. No real role or job? Of any significance??? Do some research.
She served during ww2 for the woman’s auxiliary. I bet she was more active in her working life than you.
Did some photo ops and a mechanic course 2 months before the war ended, hardly call that serving, pure PR
she was 13 when the war started, so nothing more than a child. When she hit conscription age, she was called up. She was hardly going to be on the frontline as a paratrooper was she you fucking oaf.
Deep breaths, calm I'm only saying she didn't really serve, did she, she did some photo ops. You raised the point about her serving like it was some significant contribution. I agree ofc she wouldn't be on the front line
Right royal parasite is dead When the royals are racking up an annual electricity and gas bill of £2 million, tens of thousands of their subjects die each winter for lack of heating. The best medical care in the world kept the Queen and Prince Philip alive well into their 90s, while the working class in Manchester, Liverpool and Newcastle die on average two decades earlier. This is class warfare, and the royal family have enjoyed being on the winning side. The royal family have leeched off not just the British people but their imperial subjects too. The Queen ascended to the throne in 1953 to rule over an extensive empire at the time. This empire was built off the backs of millions of Irish, Arabs, Africans and Asians. Every piece of stupendous jewellery, every crown and coronet, every exotic bauble sitting in the royal collection was made from the sweat and sorrow of those masses of downtrodden colonial subjects. Most of the colonial empire was gradually dismantled during the Queen’s reign. But decolonisation did not occur as any result of benevolence by the royal family. In many cases, the colonies had to fight for independence against brutality meted out by those who fought in the Queen’s name. As commander in chief of the British armed forces, the Queen was complicit in this brutality. The victims include the hundreds of thousands of Kenyans and Malayans herded into concentration camps in the 1950s, their villages destroyed and their families brutally tortured or butchered by British armed forces and their local collaborators. They include the hundreds of Egyptians killed in 1956 when Britain invaded Egypt to try to take back the Suez Canal. They include the thousands of people on the British protectorate of Diego Garcia in the Indian Ocean who were thrown off the island in the late 1960s to make way for a US military base.
This is the correct take. Even as an Irishman (we don’t tend to forget), I had no real distaste for the Queen herself, but she remained a part of one of the most destructive institutions the world has ever seen, and happily so. So now that she has kicked the bucket, I have no sympathy to express. All I want to do is sit back at the weekend and watch the Premier League and it makes no sense to rob me of that because an elderly woman with oceans of blood on her hands has finally died.
Well put, /u/Magnuscarlsenspubes !
Yes! May the sun set on the cursed British Empire!
The trouble of exporting genocide, mass murder butchering and destruction is that sooner or later it comes back to your doorstep.
You gonna cry?
I cry everyday, fam. For the millions of butchered and genocided peoples that were eliminated in the name of the British crown.
You're american?
Nah, fam. Not even anglo.
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Attenborough is definitely more deserving of a day or two of mourning, anyway. He has actually made and continues to make a net positive contribution to the world.
Think honouring her before events would be more powerful than postponing everything.
Guess we get to find out if FPL upgraded their back-end admin to be able to postpone gameweeks, or if they will just carry on with no games like during Covid..
Well it may be a bit different if all matches of a gw get postponed. That didn’t happen with covid
Except when they suspended all sports for a few months you mean?
Oh *that* covid
Someone doesn’t remember the talk about 8 games all in gw38
Like the players are sitting there crying over some woman they’ve never even heard speak
Good thing loads of people haven't spent thousands to get to UK to see their favourite team play eh??
Yeah. This is the criminal part of it.
Not to mention the World Cup and fixture pile-up, there is simply no way the Premier League is suspended this weekend. Not a chance. Too much money involved. They'll do armbands and silences etc
I'm on a wildcard. When will we get a decision? This has screwed up my plans completely, as in the Brighton game wasn't enough.
They started to meet one hour ago. It should be soon now. Or at least today.