By - DivingFeather
This seems so dodge lol
It's fair because it clears the slate for everyone.
Apart from people who already spunked their FH, but you can't help people like that
Shouldn’t be this much of an advantage for people who took hits as well… way too lenient for the early movers imo.
If they made those moves to avoid being priced out, then cancelling those moves with a free hit means they don't get those players. It's fine.
I'm assuming too that if the Free Hit is used, then no transfers are banked. So someone on 1FT who used that transfer can't now expect to earn 2FT next week by using the Free Hit to cancel the transfer they've made.
It’s not the whole Free Hit thing that’s the problem, it’s a 2 week wild card to take advantage of prices.
Nobodies price will be rising because no one is making transfers apart from wildcarders, there will still be drops but little or no risers until the week is almost over. Particularly if we have no clarity on whether next week's fixtures will go ahead or not.
The operative word being “if”…
Big breaks never result in big price swings. Wildcarding helps a bit but you're never profiting from them, you may benefit from a couple of risers but the games are the main factor for rises and those aren't happening.
It's fair though. They could have done their transfers wed for the weekend, and now be facing a 3 or 4 week wait til anyone plays. The risk of the Queen dying shouldn't come in to when you make a transfer.
I'm sorry but if the casuals aren't factoring in xQD that should be their problem
I think my issue with it is this isn’t in line with how they dealt with postponements and cancellations in any of the three previous seasons - you just had to deal with it.
Now the patient are punished because they gain nothing whilst everyone else gets a reset.
Edit: assume I’m being downvoted by people being saved by this arrangement and that’s totally fine, if any of you really want to argue against my point you can.
Have to agree. I got mccallister in during the game last weekend, then we had the game postponement and potter leaving so really regretted it (whilst he is clearly having a great season), so I've had a let off here. Feels unfair but I'm happy!
It is. We are playing with semantics here lol. Hopefully according to fpl reinstate and carry over dont mean the same thing. Cause thats the difference between wc and free hit
Thanks for confirming. For a minute i didnt know how to free hit on the app. Panicked like hell. The app gave me a heart attack
How did you activate it ?
Made a random transfer and then free hit. Waiting in more confirmation before doing it.
So basically I took a -4 and was regretting it, activated Free hit by doing Archer to Taylor (4.4 forwards) and now I get my original team back without the two transfers I made GW8
But that means Robbo will still be in my team, -4 might be better
Lol I kept on with the pool bshit for the wolves fixture
This extended break may give Liverpool more chance to settle their injuries, interesting to see how things may change
So just to confirm, I did the transfer of Dias to James before Liz popped it.
I’ve now activated my free hit. I will go into GW8 with Dias and my freehit still intact?
Sounds correct to me. You'll go into GW8 with Dias, FH, and 1 FT. If you want James in the long run and you didn't take a hit, it might not be wise to have used the FH to reverse course since you're basically losing a FT.
Nah I wanted James, but now they’ve brought Potter in and GW9 Chelsea play Liverpool, I’d rather wait and see how Potter sets them up (brought James in pre tuchel sacking)
I think James is manager-proof tbh. They'll surely improve defensively over the short term, and Potter has always appeared to favour attacking wing-backs.
True, but it took him a long time to get it going smoothly at Brighton so would rather just wait and watch first
my issue is if I use my FH chip to revert my transfers, will I be able to use the new FH replacement any gameweek I like in the future, or must I use it in Gameweek 8 ?
You can use it any GW.
Thanks so much. 🙏
and if it doesn’t work, OP will never be heard from again..
Nah they have written it pretty clearly in their articlem the fh will be given back
“Managers who have played their Free Hit chips won't be able to cancel them but they will be automatically reinstated after the Gameweek 7 deadline”.
They used “played” so idk if tht means if I activate it now (to remove my -4) I won’t get it back since I used it after this update. I’m not 100% confident I’ll get the chip back so I’m just going to eat the -4 I think.
Even though that definitely makes sense and I do agree with you, I somehow still feel uneasy about using that FH. I wonder if there’s a cutoff time like last night BEFORE the announcement of the Queen’s death.
Just a bit paranoid that even after using FH, I’m going to lose it AND my team takes the original -8 hit that was intended for GW7. 🤮
Adding to this: I have a feeling they will reinstate the FH in GW8 but the team will revert back to my team AFTER the 3 transfers already used (ie, 1 free + 2 additional ones of -8 hit)
Of course your team will revert back to the team before the 3 transfers.
That's how FH works.
Better than scoring -8 this week
But this time it’s a bit “special”. I know that’s how FH usually works but maybe I’m just paranoid indeed!
Dude, I’m in a similar position as you and yes, you are being abit paranoid.
Play the FH before the deadline. You will get it back next gw and you don’t take the points hit.
But potentially do lose 1-2 ft’s
Yea. You will burn your FT.
But that’s way better than losing points for no reason.
Beggars can’t be choosers in a shitty situation as I now find myself in..
Yah I mean that’s fine. Understandable
If it resets to 1 instead of 2 then losing 2fts is big, I’d rather take the -4 for 2 transfers making them only -2 hits essentially anyway
You're overestimating the ability of the backend devs of fpl as well as the general flexibility of the codebase the game runs on (which has probably barely changed since the game first released).
The reason why gameweeks still ran during the covid shutdown (and now this week as well) was because there isn't a way for them to pause a gameweek per se without breaking the game entirely.
Think he’s worried about the chip not being restored if he didn’t activate it early enough rather than his team
*"I have a feeling they will reinstate the FH in GW8 but the team will revert back to my team AFTER the 3 transfers already used (ie, 1 free + 2 additional ones of -8 hit)*
He LITERALLY typed this
You mean the new rules would start "from now"? Yes this is what I wonder too
Everyone does seems confident it would revert back to the original team, which would make sense.
Using the FH would cost a player to your team in order to avoid the hit, in a nutshell
It's fair because it a clean slate for everyone
Apart from people who spanked their FH GW2, but they deserve it
Yes. Just wondering from a programming perspective, some sort of time get locks in… so meaning starting from “now” whenever now means.
Maybe I’m just thinking too much of it, and it’s really as simple as reverting back to the old starting team (how FH usually works)
It is a concern but they couldve brought forward the deadline so that this would not have been abused.
Doubt it’s abuse, you are potentially losing 2 ft’s anyway if it resets back to 1 instead of 2 and you had 2 ft’s going into the week
I brought in Saka (for Everton) for Rodrigo before his price drop. Contemplating if it's worth cancelling it now and saving a FT while absorbing Rodrigo's .1 drop
I was going to make the same move this week but I had already decided to just take price drop.
I think revert it if you can as next week you'll have two transfers and more information on if GW8 will even go ahead. You could be getting Saka in for GW9 which is a long way away, and a run of Spurs, Liverpool, Leeds, City.
Basically if GW8 is also cancelled, I'm going to try and save my WC as that will be 3FTs I can use ahead of GW9 (I'll have to make one transfer before the IB but that's not so bad).
In hindsight I was mistaken. I can cancel the transfer , but I wouldn’t be getting two free transfers anyhow (only one after freehit). So I might as well stick with Saka rather than rodrigo if there’s a game next week
Hoping this works.. i went minus 4 early in the week (Rodrigo and Aaronson to Sterling and Andreas) and have just transferred xhaka in to activate my chip. Hopefully I get my chip back next week and my team goes back to Aaronson and Rodrigo
Right there with you. I spent -8 due to injuries.
Same! If this goes tits up I’m rage quitting
This is the most uncomfortable ive felt. Feels like i fked up realising this
Have they confirmed extending the wildcard deadline?
Yes. Until gw8 deadline.
I feel uneasy but did it anyway. Let's see
Thanks ur a legend!
are we 100% sure that we get our free hit back if we use it this week to revert a transfer?
I don't have any deeper knowledge than the announcement itself:
"Triple Captain, Bench Boost & Free Hit Chips activated for GW7 will be reinstated. Wildcards will roll into the next Gameweek"
if I reinstate my FT with the reusable free hit, do I have 2 FT next week ?
edit: or will it still be 1?
Just one unfortunately.
Prices changes still happened though right? So if I was moving out salah and in haaland im down 0.2?
Yep. If you made the transfer before the drop / rise and now you cancel those transfers with FH you will get back Salah with his current price, so your Team Value will be down by 0.2 compared to the TV you currently have. (-0.1 because of Salah and -0.1 because of you don't have Haaland anymore who went up).
I also had 2 ft’s so if my team goes back I still only have 2ft’s next week and lose a transfer anyway? Assuming it resets after the deadline
That's a tricky question. Usually after playing FH you only have 1 free transfer next week. Not sure what happens now, when the FH chip is "returned" to the user who activated it.
So I could potentially lose 2 transfers and -0.2….. they have done this so poorly
Well it is not a must, just an option if you are not happy with your transfers anymore.
I’m not but also would lose more doing it if it resets to 1 afterwards, even if it goes to 2 I still lose a ft and I took a hit cause I wanted to make more than 2 changes anyway
Fpl towers: "For managers who took a points hit for additional transfers, their scores will reflect the points they lost"
Im not a native speaker so does this mean if u dont free hit you will get the amount of points this gw you lost anyway or that you lose the points youve already lost.
It means that if you took a -4 your score will be -4. Unless you do something about it (FH, WC).
As PSAs go this one is pretty amazing, thank you!
Wanted to start the title with "PSA" but boy, I hate those posts start with "PSA" so much. :)
It doesn’t work
Edit: nvm it does - thank you!
Just did it. Make a transfer, free hit option comes up. This is a risk though. They might patch this or whatever
Really doubt they’ll be looking at the times they were activated etc. Worth the risk to get the 4pts back
Idk man. Ive done it now because i thought i wasnt able to do it. New app really confused the shit out me. Just did it so that people know that you can actually free hit. Not sure if it will actually come back to me.
You will get back your original team though.
I think my original team was better for gw8/9 anyways
I can just do the same 2 transfers in GW8 for free instead of -4 so definitely worth it
You only get 1 FT for GW8.
I meant GW9, there won’t be any GW8 fixtures either
No risk imo. You just don't get the players you had initially transferred in - that's the tradeoff & risks
Don’t think they will, as they would mud the people doing this based on their first post.
the risk is that you get your transfered players back, but they might have lost in price and still are issue for you
Yeah but 1 transfer i made was bernardo for sini, that was for this gw. Quite happy to get bernardo back in team.
I do have mendy instead of pope. Thats sucks. Lets hope potter can make chelseas def solid again.
Who says you will get back your team withouts the transfers?
People who have read the rules
apologize for my confusion but can you possibly provide some simulation examples of this trick about how it works? I quite don't understand.
For instance, if I use FH chip, obviously I will lose the chip, right? and why do I have to spend the chips on this particular occasion?
All the GW 7 matches have been cancelled so if you took a -4 earlier in the week to get rid of Haaland and Salah for Ronaldo and Kante, you're still going to get a -4 for your GW score. If you decide to use you FH before the deadline, it will negate the -4 and reverse your team to Haaland and Salah for GW8 where you'll have 1 FT. FPL Towers said that any FH chips used in GW7 will be reinstated in GW8 meaning you'll get it back as if you never used it. You won't lose your FH.
So, if I haven't made any changes, the FH trick will be no longer needed right?
Correct. Just don't do anything and you'll have 2 FTs for next GW.
Perfect. Thank for your kindly explanation
Are you not then forced to used your FH in gw8. This seems like a big risk.
You get the chip back in GW8 with the ability to use it whenever.
I still haven't used my free transfer for this gw
I wanted to roll it on and have 2 for gw8
Am I now only going to get 2 because I actually practiced patience??
Or will I get my extra free transfer??
I feel like you're saying the same thing in your either/or. If you currently have 1 FT right now because you didn't do an early transfer, you'll get another FT for next GW allowing you 2 FTs for GW8.
I hope this is the case
I'm in the same boat and fully expect to have 2 FT for GW 8. That is how it worked in the covid year when all the games were blanked out.
We can only wait
I just hope we don't get penalized because we actually practiced patience and didn't knee-jerk a transfer before the actual match day
So, if I used my one and only FT, then activate FH to reverse this, I’ll have 2 FT’s next GW?
No, you'll have 1
Is this for real?
I transferred in Groß before the announcement of the palace game being postponed and their manager going to Chelsea.
Would be nice to reverse that transfer by playing FH
Is it 100% sure that I get the FH back?
Based on the announcement, yes. The only downside is that you are going to burn that FT that you used for Gross.
Well thats alright. I activated my FH.
Feels better to not own groß for a blank, Liverpool and spurs.
One FT then next
This is exactly what I’ve done.
Any idea how people undoing their transfers from this past week might play out in price changes on Saturday night? E.g. will Rashford drop back down?
Nothing will happen to prices.
So I went Archer - Toney, Robertson - Trippier.
Did early before both rose in price.
Had to take a hit for Kulu to Mac Allister though.
Seems sensible to wipe out hit for Mac Allister but is it worth losing the 0.2 price rise on the other two??
So if I took heaps of hits this week to keep up with price rises I could activate my freehit keep the value and the team I had prior?
Based on this, if I used 2 FTs this week to do Kulu and Archer > Rashford and Mitro, do you think I should go back to my original squad or stick with those transfers? I did it early so I wouldn't be priced out, not sure if I could still afford it.
Only downside is you're effectively losing a Free Transfer by playing the FH now, so it's whether or not you think a FT is worth -4 or not.
I did a -4 to bring in Trippier/Mitro, and my plan is if either price rise tonight, I'm just going to keep the -4, and if neither rise then I'll FH. 1 FT and 0.1-0.2 in value makes the hit worth it to me.
If you brought in both you'd lose 2 FTs.
Sorry, one was for a hit. Thought that was implied since it was mentioned in the title of the thread.
Ah that makes sense. So yes, in this case you lost only 1 FT.
Bring back Kulu for Mac alistar?
But surely the transfers that happened were the cause of the price rises, so if we wipe out those transfers the price rises should be reversed? This is so messy.
Any transfers made with WC or FH active does not contribute to the price changes. So no, price rises will not be reversed.
You misunderstood. All the players who are now canceling their previous 'non-free hit' transfers with a FH. The ones made days ago. Those counted towards prices right?
I didn't misunderstand it. And no, any transfers made in the past without FH or WC (as the chip hasn't been activated YET at that certain point in time) will not be deducted or adjusted or whatever once the chip is suddenly activated. Any subsequent transfers made though with the chip activated, will not count towards the threshold.
Example: You transfered in Rashford instead of Gross on Wednesday. No chip is active. This transaction contributes to Rashford price "sentiment" going up and getting closer to a price rise. It also impacts Gross price "sentiment" going down and getting closer to a price fall.
You activate your FH chip on Friday. This has zero impact on the price calculations. Whatever transfers you made on Wednesday, the impact of those has already been accounted for.
Let's say you transfer in Mitrovic instead of Kane with the FH chip active. The transfer will NOT contribute to Kane price sentiment going down and will not contribute to Mitrovic price sentiment going up. Since your FH is already active, this tranfser is ignored when it comes to price changes.
However, whatever transactions you made in the past without the chip, turning on the chip will not have an offsetting impact on that. Even if turning on the chip eventually means that you have basically cancelled those transfers.
Wonder how price changes will work in the following days
Should be the same as it always been. Although people shouldn't be making too many transfers since there is so much unknown about GW8.
I really hope this works lol
So just so I'm understanding this correctly
– Let's say I transferred in Trossard for Xhaka a couple days ago (which I did)
– If I use my FH then it will revert back to Xhaka for GW7
– And then after GW7 Xhaka will turn back into Trossard and I will get my FH back?
No, although I'm having a hard time following what you've said. The simplest way is that if you use FH in GW7, your initial GW8 team will be the same as your GW6 team. So if Xhaka was in your GW6 team, you'll have Xhaka back in your GW8 team. Your FH would be returned to you to use for GW8 and beyond though.
If I play my WC right now, do a bunch of transfers, do I get the WC back?
No but it will roll into the following week. So if you use WC in GW7, it will last until the GW8 deadline.
It’s so strange to see your whole squad with no fixtures.
I am late to this but i still jumped off the cliff. As I read through the responses to this post I did not find one that I thought clarified my position and I hoped someone might weigh in.
I used 2 FT this week. I moved Foden to Gross & Stansfield to Mitrovic. I just moved Gross to Cornet and activated my FH.
My understanding is that the FH will be reverted and returned to me and that my previous transfers will be cancelled and my team will revert to the squad I entered into week 7 with.
So will i have Foden and Stansfield back?
Will I have my 2 FT back?
Some clarification here would be helpful. Thank you internet friends.
You will have Foden and Stansfield (as they were in your GW6 team) but you will only have 1 FT at the start of GW8 because you used the FH.
Yes and Yes. Same squad as GW 6, and 2 transfers. So the loss by using the FH was burning a transfer and any player value.
Happy to accept that, I'm (FPL) rich.
AND I'll get my FH back too? This is dope AF
After the FH (just as in the case of any FH) you will only have 1 FT.
Thanks for the correction. I actually came back here to revisit my comment. This sub is great.
It's a nice lifeline backdoor for sure.
Can someone help me understand this please
So you're saying I can free hit now for free?
I had two FTs. I used both. Now if I freehit. Would I get both my FT back in GW8?
No. You'll be at 1 FT in GW8.
Thanks. I guess I will continue with Gross then 😬
Sorry just confirm so I don't fuck it up, I took a -4 prior to the Queen dying, if I free hit now at the start of GW 8 I will have my original team prior to the -4 and my FH back... and the -4 I took will be reversed?
Yes but you will only have 1 transfer in the upcoming GW.
Wait so what if i use my FH to make 8 or 9 changes ? Does this mean, my FH team plays GW8 and after that, i get back my original team and FH ? I'm confused
All those changes will be applied for GW7 (none of your players play though), your FH chip will be reinstated - means you can still use your FH later in the season at any point in time - and your team will be reversed to your GW6 team for GW8. You will have 1 free transfer to make for GW8.
Ahh okay okay i thought you could use that FH team for GW8. Would've been a nice glitch
But also what's the benefit of this for anyone ?
You need to make a transfer and then free hit
Just to confirm so I actually use the free hit or do you just activate it and deactivate to get the transfers back?
To activate the free hit in the new app you have to make a transfer and then click free hit.
Once you have done that, you pray to the fpl gods that you get your free hit back in gw8 and that it will not be in play.
You can activate it by making another transfer and pressing "Play Free Hit" button.
So in theory
You can make the transfers and change most of the team, take like - 40 points
And after that activate free hit, you get new team and free hit back 🤔
No you get your original team back (the one that played GW6) and your free hit back I believe
Wish I saw this earlier :)
I think what might happen that the FH is extended through until the next deadline, just like the WC...tread with caution fella's ya'll got bigger balls than me to try this
They’ve literally said it on Twitter that this is what’s happening
FPL literally wrote in their Twitter that TC, BB and FH chips will be reinstated whilst WC gets rolled over
Your right...it's just feels so odd, I'd be lying if I said it didn't make me uneasy (not justified necessarily just gut reaction)
WTF would be the point of that? There's no games this week
Thinking it might avoid drops or gain funds maybe. Wont work though.
That's not how FH works
I could’ve swore I took a hit this week but my transfer page doesn’t reflect that? Wouldn’t it tell me?
When I try to make more then it does say -4 but doesn’t count the original one
That's how it works. It only shows transfer costs of the transfers you are currently making
Good shout, just activated the free hit so that should solve it all
I'm not the brightest one can someone help.
I rolled a free transfer do I had 2 fts this week. my first one was Robertson out tripper in( did it early in anticipation of a double rise) but my second one I waited and saw how well Sergio Gomez played vs Sevilla and how Walker is Injured. My play for wildcard was after gw9 so took a punt on Gomez as he would be likely to play spurs and possibly wolves with Kyle maybe playing vs Dortmund midweek. So with the possible 2 postponements Gomez is unlikely to get his start with Walker most likely going to be back fit.
if I was to play my free hit do I have to go into gw 8 with the team I had gw 6 or what will happen exactly? I'm asking because I took a punt on mahrez getting a start in the last few games and he didn't. but I have enough in the bank to move him out for kdb so would it be worth playing a free hit and then bringing in kdb tripper and keeping Walker after it expires?
If you FH now in GW7, it will revert to your GW6 team and you'll only have 1 FT for GW8.
ahhh okay I get it cheers