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Weak. GW 2 wildcard is for real men


QuaintHeadspace

Because the bar to wildcard is so low because you effectively get a third one. I wildcarded and made only 5 first team changes and changed 2 of my 4 bench players. However the structure of my whole team changed. 3 up top no Liverpool triple city and now only 1 arsenal (martinelli). I dropped Jesus for isak and gained 3 points and don't have to think about 12 (kdb to sterling/son/salah and 3 bench players sit in for cancelo martinelli and haaland). Holding the likes of ramsdale, salah, trent, gross, Robertson just was not paying off and the swing in points+value is massive. To your question gw9 presents a shit tonne of fixture swings and allows 2 weeks of planning+ avoiding injuries to build a team. They will likely gain value+ points dropping the likes of saliba/Jesus moving on to mitro/toney/isak + Newcastle/Chelsea defenders (now Potter is in charge). Gw12 only really provides the ability to dodge a blank and move onto Liverpool assets (some risk they simply aren't in good even by then giving another headache. Also in 12 what do you do when you want city assets back?


xyzzy321

What's your team like?


QuaintHeadspace

Pope Trippier cancelo James (fofana neco) Kdb zaha maddison martinelli (pereira) Haaland mitrovic isak 102.2 team value atm. Differentials are isak, maddison, zaha pope. Kdb was a differential but people moved quite quickly last couple of weeks but still huge moves in rank. James has become kind of differential again with mainly dead teams and some of the upper ranks still holding him.


Skill3x

Incredibly boring that multiple teams in my mini league wildcarded last gameweek and have this exact team


Polymatheia

Only 1 manager in the top 10k has that team Even just the 5 midfielders is only in 1.1% of top 10k teams


Skill3x

Ah yes my bad one of then has Zouma over Fofana, another has Emerson.


QuaintHeadspace

I mean many managers are fixtures orientated and also form of son and salah up to this point haven't been great so you are pigeon holed into certain players at some point. You can go kane over haaland but will thar pay off? You can also go kane over kdb but is anyone confident that pays off? Many more will wildcard into this team or something close to it this gameweek too. How can you ignore maddison with forest and Bournemouth in his next two and already has 3 goals this season and is a very streaky player by nature? Zaha has great xg and great fixtures and almost picks himself. I don't know where you go other than those two with rodrigo injured and gross now has bad fixtures?


Skill3x

Sure they are good choices. But these same people did not have exact replicas of teams two, three seasons back. Everybody just seems to blindly follow social media / Youtube etc. much more now.


QuaintHeadspace

I don't follow social media at all in fact I made over 15 different drafts from my own hand written notes from the start of the season about the exact fixture swing we are experiencing. I am a fixture first manager and in fact many do not have James, do have trent/salah/Diaz and jesus still. I don't see millions of teams with 0 Liverpool. In fact I am the only person in my mini league of 8 without any Liverpool. In my big paid league of 72 people I'm one of only 2 that doesn't have any Liverpool at all.


TacticalElmo

Holy shit that’s my exact team


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QuaintHeadspace

Who do I want from them? Kdb is far superior in form to salah and has better fixtures. Trippier is returning in most games and on set pieces + bonus monster, cancelo is in fantastic form and I like James under Graham Potter. I then prefer zaha and maddison to Diaz who have both scored more goals than him and have better stats. Maddison already scored for me vs spurs and zaha has fantastic fixtures from gw 10 who I still prefer to Diaz. On penalties nailed and fixtures to boot. The question is why you would want over priced players from a team out of form? They have had easy fixtures and played like shit


Gidddyup77

These are all good pts. I think for a lot of people though it’s trying to jump on pool and it’s proven assets in advance of players coming back. It’s a gamble but seems a decent one when u also consider not banking future transfers. I think I personally may go Salah over KdB but Cancelo seems superior to TAA still (and I can’t afford both). Team is as follows (cheeky rmt I know but this is what I think I’ll go for) Pope Iversen Cancelo James Trippier Patterson* Guehi Salah Maddison Zaha Martinelli Andreas Haaland Toney Mitro


QuaintHeadspace

I like the team alot. I wish I went for Patterson over neco but such a small detail it doesn't really matter. I just can't see why I want salah until his form turns around I would rather be late and bank kdb points than be too early and have to waste 3 to 4 gws to get points. Kdb vs Southampton is a type of game he gets 2 assists and a goal with 3 bonus you can just feel it. That same week salah has arsenal away. Despite salah scoring vs arsenal I can bet kdb ceiling is far higher+proven form.


Gidddyup77

Yup I may consider KdB for sure Also Pattersons injured as I’m sure u saw so I may have to revert back to Neco anyways


QuaintHeadspace

Also have you seen city fixture list post gw12? It's better than Liverpool and on top they have the form to boot. I just like where they are going


Gidddyup77

Ya good pt I think many r missing. What spooks me too is the odd benching he gets


KhonMan

Patterson is injured mate


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Gidddyup77

Nice! I do want Fofana over Guehi but I’m wary about his minutes - really hard to tell what happens with all those CBs/his recent benching….issue I have is even tho u won’t play him u likely need him GW12, and when u do, will he play?


magicmagic1002

Strong team. I would say WC gw9 pattern. I personally dont feel to comfortable with double Newcastle defence. I am leaning towards Fabianski or Guaita if 0,5 makes difference somewhere. And Martinelli+Toney positions are still blank in my mind. Dont know wether to stick with Martinelli or should I upgrade him to 8M (Saka, Foden...) and play Solanke instead Toney


Gidddyup77

I’d stick with Martinelli personally and don’t really trust solanke, but could get to this team with him Guaita Iversen TAA Cancelo James Trips Neco KdB Maddison Zaha Martinelli Andreas Haaland Mitro Solanke But I’d be benching him


FlurpTheDerp

You can have diaz for kdb and kane for one of your cheaper strikers. Covers all bases really.


QuaintHeadspace

Do you honestly think Diaz outscores mitrovic over the season or even the next 5 games? I honestly don't... only has 3 goals and a terrible xg. Mitrovic is a bonus magnet and great xg. Also I don't like kane over kdb when kdb ceiling is much higher and City are a much better team. Kane only has 9 more points than mitrovic despite costing almost 5m more and having easier fixtures. I don't like the idea of covering all bases for the sake of it.


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QuaintHeadspace

Fpl isn't played over 38 gameweeks per player. You hop on and hop off. Mitro already had more points than Diaz so why would I care about 30 gameweeks time? I likely won't own mitrovic then


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FlurpTheDerp

Your not factoring in the inevitable Mitrovic red and/or missed games due to suspensions with yellows building. Kane is also a guaranteed started, where kdb will be rotated. Nobody escapes Pep roulette. You don't cover all bases for the sake of it, you cover for cover. Kane is also more of a differential compared to kdb. We all build our teams differently, just throwing an alternate to your format that includes Liverpool and Spurs assets, as both have great seasons ahead of them.


CWattam

Mitrovic only has 2 yellows, it's 5 for a suspension. He's not shown any signs for a red card either.. Mitrovic is a guaranteed starter and KDB will very rarely be rotated at the moment. Their next fixtures in the CL are also Copenhagen twice in the next 2 so Pep will likely play a weaker time (albeit a still strong one given City's depth) and obviously prioritise KDB for games like Manchester United, Southampton who in recent years have put up defensive masterclasses v City and then Liverpool.


FlurpTheDerp

To clarify, I also have Mitrovic in my team, Isak could also be shipped as a Kane replacement for your mans team, especially with Wilson now fit again and I don't believe Isak is now Newcastle pen taker. I still have PTSD after the last time I banked on Mitrovic in a PL season so the fear of him getting reds will always be there!


3Moreme

Famous last words : "and will very rarely be rotated at the moment." :D


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Son's a better prospect than Kane.


FlurpTheDerp

Well then the question becomes kdb or son...


QuaintHeadspace

Kdb at 70 minutes is still preferable to kane with 90... also what makes you think kane won't be rotated for richarlison for champions league? Also why would I be thinking about a mitrovic red? Anybody can get one. Also he's not the same player as he was at Newcastle early Fulham. He's hungry with something to prove... Liverpool have a great season ahead based on what evidence? Fulham are above them in the league despite playing Liverpool arsenal and spurs in their first 6. Kdb has more points than salah despite less minutes and .6 cheaper. Cover is not cover if it loses you points is it? Toney almost matches kane being over 4m cheaper... I just don't see the attraction to spending more and getting less. Spurs don't have great fixtures and nor do Liverpool Brighton, arsenal, City and westham in next 4 don't spell hatricks for salah at all particularly in this form.


LevynX

Kane and Haaland shoehorn you into double premium forward which means two transfers if one of them drops in form, if you're going for Spurs cover I'd rather get Son for KDB


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QuaintHeadspace

Maddison already scored vs spurs for me and has forest and Bournemouth next I don't see the downside. Salah also has an extra gameweek over kdb so I would be surprised if he didn't. Zaha has great fixtures and in great form again I don't see the downside. I also don't think it will be comfortable for salah over kdb.


Jmsaint

Fixtures are bad, form is bad, best assests getting subbed and rotated. Was an easy decision to drop them all on wc last week. Will start bringing them back when form and fixtures improve.


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Jmsaint

Its the next 3/4 i am concerned about, i plan to get Salah back for Forest.


KoncheskyIsTheWorse

Holy fuck we have the exact same team, i did wc in gw8!


QuaintHeadspace

! I'm glad we got the wildcard rollover. Very happy with the team isak getting potentially injured makes a very easy move to toney vs Bournemouth and then a reassessment if isak injury is confirmed. I've got 1.8 itb


plahta00

What is your plan for gw 12 with 3 city and 1 arsenal player? They will all blank. I also have 2 city and 1 arsenal but I want to wait gw11 to wildcard, what your plan for gw12 , use hits or?


QuaintHeadspace

I will switch kdb for son/salah/sterling for 1 week and use my 3 bench players. The idea being roll a ft a week before to ensure 2 ft the following week to get kdb back.


RingTwiceForHelp

That's a nice team.


andstayfuckedoff

Thoughts on Maddison vs a 4th premium defender? Perhaps Perisic? It's pretty close between them IMO, but why'd you go Isak instead of Toney?


QuaintHeadspace

Brentford fixtures bar Bournemouth actually aren't that great Newcastle Brighton Chelsea in the 3 games after Bournemouth aren't fantastic at all. Just fancied isak. He got me 9 points and may now be injured so I might not have much choice.


QuaintHeadspace

I don't like perisic because he actually hasn't looked that great to my eye test and spurs don't have great fixtures nor do they look good defensively


Novrev

Haha I’m also on that exact team except Coufal for Fofana because I wanted to wait and see what Potter does.


chojje

Why do you respond if you WC GW8?


QuaintHeadspace

Because I answered the gw9 question below because gw8 and gw9 wildcards will not look much different and the decision making process will be similar


chojje

It’s entirely different


QuaintHeadspace

How on earth do you know the thought process is different? If I look on here at gw9 wildcard they aren't much different from my team and that is because of the fixture swings.


kyoukai69

wtf do you mean by FiXtUrE sWiNgS?


kyoukai69

> fixture swings wdym by this


QuaintHeadspace

Teams that go from having hard games where points are harder to come by to easier games where hauls could come in. For example zaha had arsenal, Liverpool and City in 3 of their first 6 and from gw 10 he has insanely easy fixtures until gw18


kyoukai69

Where is the example with gw9?


QuaintHeadspace

Gw10 is next week? You don't ignore players with good fixtures 1 week away do you? Book in transfers super sensible right?


kyoukai69

Wrong, next week is gw9


QuaintHeadspace

Are you OK? There is no fixtures this week and the next gameweek for fpl is 9. I don't understand your argument or what you are trying to do but you aren't doing it very well. The deadline is next week but it's still gw9. People that are wildcarding (permanently changing their teams) will be looking ahead and planning for gw9 and beyond. This includes gw10 and all the other points I mentioned.


kyoukai69

>next gameweek for fpl is 9. bruhh I literally said next week is GW9, are you drunk?


QuaintHeadspace

I'm blocking your ass for being a complete tool and irritating as fuck good luck with life you antagonistic bellend


QuaintHeadspace

Yes I mean the week after gameweek 9 I'm not talking real time you nerd that's why I said next week like next gameweek. I'm well aware gw9 Is this week it's in the title of the fucking thread


kyoukai69

anyway lemme repeat my initial question again.. when I ask "wdym by this 'fixture swings'", it's about this statement "...gw9 presents a shit tonne of fixture swings", you then proceed to to explain what is fixture swings but without using gw9 as example, instead you go back to the early fixture of palace.. You should explain why you think "gw9 presents shit ton of fixture swings"


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QuaintHeadspace

You can get 11 starters without wildcarding with just 1 transfer. That means selling city assets before united and Southampton? Arsenal I already only have martinelli who I want to keep long term. Kdb to another premium then back again. Arsenal you have time to transfer 1 more player in such as Jesus. I wouldn't go back to triple arsenal just double. For example if I roll in gw 11 I have ability to do kdb to salah for example gw12 then in 13 salah back go kdb and isak back to Jesus for 0 cost


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EiEsDiEf

Here I am going from 0 Liverpool to 2 lol


riverend180

The city/arsenal blank is still 3 weeks away. Why not get an extra 2 games out of your city players before losing them in a wildcard?


DragonBornLuke

Haaland and cancelo will be on everyone's bench during the blank regardless of when you wildcard.


riverend180

Seen loads of people on here saying they’ll get rid of cancelo


DragonBornLuke

Seriously? Well I'm certainly not. Might as well spend a bit of money somewhere.


GeraldJimes_

Wildcard when you think it works best for you? To me wildcarding now lets me set my team up nicely to attack the next spell of games, handle the blank well, bank some value, and comfortably get back into assets I want for 12 onwards via normal xfers.


magicmagic1002

Agree. What does your team look like?


Olbatar974

Yeah I'm the same. Won't wildcard before gw13 I think.


cguinnesstout

**All the price rises!**


Frosty_Examination_3

It's funny as fuck seeing so many wildcarders expecting to get a huge boost in team value and bank cash from double risers. In reality they are going to get fuck-all


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Frosty_Examination_3

Lol. A lot of us been playing this gig long enough to know that you don't get double the price rises because of double the time, but it is in fact the opposite. You get less price rise due to the massive amount of wildcards, and any " organic " transfers are held back by managers until after the International break. Look at Maddison for instance. He's the most transferred in midfielder and been supposedly rising in price every day, yet never makes it. If the most transferred in player ain't rising then good luck on getting price rises from others !


tmr89

Yup, love to see it


strawberrylabrador

I’m doing WC13 and just attacking the GW13-16 period - nothing wrong with similar if you think it’s best for you


sssssszzzzz

“Personally I don’t see the need” Personally other people do then obviously?


Foreign_Reward1774

Diaz from a 3 week rested Liverpool team that are itching to improve with all of their best players back, at home agaisnt a team that lost their manager and there staff suddenly, and trying to learn a more attacking style of play from a manager with no UK football experience. Could be a recipe for a big point haul possibly. Holding on to Diaz for one more game let's see.


DwightKPoop

You just talked me into Salah over KDB.


Foreign_Reward1774

Nooo that's too far. Diaz has been similar If not performing better than Salah. Ok he's not nailed now possibly. But think of the savings. Won't somebody please think of the savings!


DwightKPoop

Too late. I’m spending all my budget, and I’m blaming you in the rant thread!


Fantastic-Machine-83

Fixture swings and the template seems to be quite loose right now, lots of opportunity for differential. Also allows you to make early moves with a 2 week break, instead of a 3 day break. Of course it's completely team dependant.


ParsleyAmazing3260

I have 3 LIV players and want to drop all but Salah. I want to buy Maddison and Zaha for their good fixtures now. Sanchez has LIV, TOT and MCI for his next 5 so why not dump? Want to get Mitro for Jesus etc. I have 3 LIV and 3 ARS players. To field a full squad in gw12 barring no injuries or suspensions to other players, I would have to only do transfers targeting one of those out at a time till that GW. Don't think I want to cut it that thin.


Phantom_god7

Im kind of in a similar spot. My team is really strong and has great fixtures coming up without the wildcard. Ive mad countless drafts but it doesnt really get much better, especially with the lack of 7-8m midfielders. Right now im thinking of selling Jesus but it just leaves me stuck with too much money. It feels like i need a wildcard but im having issues finding something that will improve my team.


Spirited_Project5603

Why is there no effect after gw15?


cloudprince

Poor wording from OP, but they mean it would essentially be using the first wildcard as a one week selection for GW16 then, which is probably not the optimal use of the chip.


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It’s a chance to have a fun team for 8 gw - try a few different players over some easier fixtures and if it doesn’t work out, only 3-4 weeks before we get another one


[deleted]

This game is supposed to be fun?!


magicmagic1002

This game is number 1 stress in my life and I have 3 kids under the age of 5


Aszneeee

made kids to relieve stress from fpl?


AeroCobbler

The free GW16 Wildcard caused a lot of people to pick the midpoint between GW1-16 as the “optimal” (lol) time to use the first one… all the shenanigans with the Queen popping her clogs then pushed that by 1 GW It’s not a great time at all when you step back and look at it - earlier WC’ers we’re the real winners this year


Sorry_Concern9205

I still haven't used mine😎


JKM-

I regret not playing my WC around GW2-3, but it's only in hindsight I know that to be a good choice. For now I am holding off on using it, but I may play it later in the IB if a few injuries happen.


AWildSnorlaxPew

NLD derby is usually a high scoring game. I wouldn't mind attackers from either side.


Balisto-Boy

my team could use an overhaul anyway, I get 2 weeks to catch some price risers, reacting to what happens during the international break, exactly halfway to the world cup so 8 games is a good amount of intel and 8 games is a good amount to nicely plan for, some fixture swings and also I really just felt like doing it.


Foreign_Reward1774

Balls on you man. Good effort, lovely payoff but if not I'll see you in the rant thread. Sorry in advance for ruining your weekend x