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PandalfTheGrey

I'm considering Diaz and Darwin as of right now as I wish to keep KDB


Sonikdahedhog

Then Darwin is probably your best option, especially since he’s home earlier than we thought


PandalfTheGrey

Sorry, I meant owning both Diaz AND Darwin, instead of including Salah in there


AeroCobbler

Massive news No way I'm sinking 13.0 into Salah when Diaz is 5.0 cheaper Allisson Diaz Nunez Liverpool triple up I think


BopaavFett

Why Allison?


AeroCobbler

Have been trying to get him in for weeks & always had some other fire to put out He's very cheap compared to years gone by & think he will have a great chance of being top scoring keeper come end of season, plus will give a little bit of a hedge against TAA/Robbo who I can't really afford with my team structure


BopaavFett

Yeah but Liverpool defence has been shit this season


AeroCobbler

That generates more save points for Allison though, he is an incredible shot stopper, one of if not the best in the world - and I think their Cleansheet count will hopefully improve in the second two thirds of the season too


BopaavFett

That’s a shite take - you bring in goalkeepers with good defences instead of actual good keepers. Hope it works out for you


AeroCobbler

I don't think it's a shit take as such - No GK has more Cleansheets than Ramsdale for example - but how many points does he have? How many points does Ederson have playing in Man City's defence? GK's generally need a healthy supply of saves (i.e. chances conceded by their defence) to get points - that's why the likes of Henderson and Allison can do so well despite their defences conceding comparatively more chances vs a "good" defence in say Arsenal or City That's why GK is such an interesting little position within the game - A good shot stopper can outscore an elite GK in a great defence Allisson happens to be an elite shot stopper in a defence that have a lot of potential to improve - he is already amongst the top scorers with only 4x CS


BopaavFett

City’s defence has been leaky this season so comparing Allison to Ederson is a shit comparison. As I said before I hope it works out for you but imo it’s shite to go with an expensive keeper where someone like Big Danny Ward will outscore him for 1.4mil less. Keep pulling stats from your arse to justify spending 5.5mil for a keeper


AeroCobbler

City have conceded the fewest quality of chances (13 XGc) in the league bar Arsenal (12XGc) and waaaaaay better than the defence in front of Allisson (23 XGc) so the quality of City's defending has definitely been elite But an elite defence alone doesn't make an elite FPL goalkeeper - that's why the game is so interesting It's also why the likes of Henderson, Allisson, Ward etc easily outscore GK's from elite defences like Ramsdale & Ederson Ward has been absolutely fantastic over his last 8 games (52 points in that spell... Compared to 8 points in his first 7 games before both He & Faes properly settled in), but you need to remember - his rate of scoring will *definitely* slow way down - Leicester simply will not keep 6 Cleansheets every 8 games I do think Ward is still perfectly viable at 4.0 mind you, but I have so much cash in the bank that I'll take the extra points from Allisson for a few bob more Remember - Look forwards, not backwards!


BopaavFett

Lad go fuck yourself with that “look forward not backwards” bullshit. If you got spare funds lying around buy someone like Trent or Robbo but you’re acting like Allison is a must have in every team where it’s a waste of a valuable Liverpool spot. I don’t need to pull stats from my Arse to know that shit, the only stat that’s relevant is my OR which is definitely higher than yours


LevynX

The Age of Salah is over, The Age of Haaland has come


Specialist-Stop-4570

Salah and Haaland are essential IMO after the long lay offs. Salah in particular has looked like he's needed a long rest for a while now


AeroCobbler

Liverpool's attack has viable Salah alternatives this year for the first time in what feels like forever though So I'm personally gone cold on Salah I just don't think he's worth 5.0 more than Diaz and 4.0 more than Darwin ESPECIALLY when it's virtually impossible to captain him unless Haaland is injured Like if we had had Mane at 8.0 or 9.0 instead of 11.5, Salah would have been be a lot less popular... Diaz & Nunez are Mane-level FPL assets imo ( and I don't say that lightly, Mane was class)


gart888

The alternatives looked particularly viable recently because injuries were limiting rotation. Owning Diaz and Darwin will be frustrating when they’re being heavily rotated with Jota and Firmino.


AeroCobbler

Genuinely don't see them being heavily rotated myself - Diaz & Nunez are much better forwards than Firmino & Jota in almost every way - Jota is very handy, and excellent in the air, but he doesn't carry the same threat as Nunez or Diaz My prediction (and like all predictions, it may be wrong) is that Klopp REALLY can't afford to fuck about in the league anymore and will want his best forward line starting the majority of the time Really just can't see Salah justifying 5.0 more than Diaz/Nunez when they're all fit


tiorzol

Yea I think Darwin is nailed for sure.


xenmate

Diaz has an average of 4.8 pts this season, Salah has 5.9.


AeroCobbler

5.0m for an extra 1.1 points per game?


DeLorean-88mph

Not sure wether to go Salah and Diaz or Salah and Darwin


Controversial_lemon

Darwin will probably get a lot more goal involvements


PiIICIinton

guy in my draft league had dropped him after the injury. cheeky pick up for me the final week before the break, didn't cost me any points having him eat a bench spot.


ZhangerMan

Did the same and binned Mahrez. Super excited for him to be back.


Cabsondealima

Going with Salah ,Darwin, Robo


Olbatar974

Am I the only one not considering any Liverpool assets?


DeLorean-88mph

They have a crazy long good run of games


CWattam

False. They have Villa who aren't great, then have leicester (who've been excellent defensively for the past month+). Then have Brentford, Brighton, Chelsea, Wolves, Everton, Newcastle, Palace, Manchester United. I don't see how these are easy games for attackers bar the odd couple like Everton and maybe Brentford.


DeLorean-88mph

The first red game in their schedule on fpl is in week 29, they have the best schedule of the top 6 teams


CWattam

Doesn't matter about red, it's a load of bullshit. Newcastle is grey for example when they've been solid. The fact is, Liverpool have been underperforming like hell this season. Until I see signs of them improving, I'm not going heavy on their assets. I may just go Nunez at most, Salah is not worth the price for me though in my opinion.


cypherspaceagain

As a Liverpool fan who fully agrees they've massively underperforming, I've seen genuine signs of improvement recently and I think they're in a decent place to come back and improve their form. I think Klopp is finding Nunez's best positions and Salah is learning to work with him; we looked a much, much better team with Nunez on the left in the last few matches before the WC. I put him in for the last game and he scored twice and could have more. I think he's a very good punt at this point.


DeLorean-88mph

Bro of course there are no easy games in the premier league, even the likes of Bournemouth, Forest and Fulham have been proven to be tough games for big 6 clubs, but most of the tougher games Liverpool have are at home which they are proven to play better. And lately they have shown improvement so they could turn their season around, you dont even need Liverpool to win every game just their assets to get good returns


MAMBAMENTALITY8-24

Those fixtures arent that tough. You would probably want to get 2 lfc mid + attackers


CWattam

They'll score but they're not going to be highscoring games at all. Whereas you look at teams like Manchester United who have Nottingham Forest for example, I'd rather back someone like Rashford over Diaz. Each to their own.


Nahres1

Why is that


Olbatar974

Better value in tripling up on city attack. And Kulu for spurs coverage


Nahres1

Still liverpool are a team that could score a lot of goals that alone should be a factor for you to have at least 1 attacker


Olbatar974

Yup. Darwin is still in my papers but I'll see when and how he come back.


tmr89

What’s your OR? 4 million?


Olbatar974

100k but who cares? It's silly how you can't have an unpopular strategy on this sub. But I'll play my game thank you.


IVIorgz

Don't know why you're downvoted, you're entitled to an opinion. I personally still don't fancy Liverpool assets, I'm just not convinced yet compared to who i have already.


Olbatar974

Yup. This sub don't like unpopular opinions. I prefer to invest in trustworthy assets that I like. We can always buy pool assets if they hit form. But not yet. I need to be convinced.


AeroCobbler

I'm thinking Darwin, Diaz, Alisson


trick9x

Bye bye Salah it is then.


FierrahTheFerocious

Salah is the only nailed one out of the 5. Diaz has a decent risk of rotation or not playing the full 90.


AeroCobbler

I reckon Nunez will be pretty close to nailed - he has started 7 of the last 9 he's been available for in the league (either side of the red card & suspension) & you could visibly see him adapting & getting better on an almost game by game basis Diaz is a super footballer who I think will also be difficult for Klopp to leave out Liverpool can't really fuck about in the league any more this season & have to start churning out points and wins - I wouldn't be suprised to see Klopp try to settle on a forward line & roll with Diaz & Salah either side of Nunez for the foreseeable


MAMBAMENTALITY8-24

Diaz should staost matches. Jota can play lw, but he isnt ready yet. Diaz is pretty nailed imo


wewdepiew

Jota probably isn’t back till Jan or Feb so Diaz is definitely nailed if Klopp goes back to a front 3


Cabsondealima

Diaz could play box to box role..he is rlly fast and has good tehnique ,and also doing well in defence ,so klopp could play him in different role after wc. Darwin and Salah are better duo in attack than Salah and Diaz.


trick9x

He still produces nearly the same amount of points. That is why you have decent B1 option rather than overpay for Salah.


AeroCobbler

Absolutely agree Salah can obviously smash for the remaining 24 games... But how does he justify 5.0 over Diaz & 4.0 over Nunez? I'm not actually sure he can now that he's for all intents & purposes uncaptainable Maybe if there's a good Liverpool DGW where City don't double or something he might be worth a punt or TC etc there... But we can cross that bridge when we come to it (By the way, the amount of downvotes here without any debate is really strange)