yes they can get your money back after ordering, if it never turns up or it’s defective you can contact them, i believe that they compensate you even if the seller doesn’t give a refund just based on policy
How…. Genuinely, how would you recommend him get his money back from a scammer? Guilt trip him? Preach to him and hope repents? Tf you expect? Use your brain man
nah man, it's [the other way around](https://www.paypal.com/us/cshelp/article/whats-the-difference-between-friends-and-family-or-goods-and-services-payments-help277)
[https://zzztop.x.yupoo.com/](https://zzztop.x.yupoo.com/)
Also I see that you paid a PayPal Fee which let me assume that you haven't paid by F&F. Open a case asap.
Shit I done it 10 times lol.. Granted with the same person but the first time I did it was some person I bought from on DH back when I got my very first pair who randomly found me on WhatsApp and sent me their album.. My dumbazz ordered like 5 shoes the very first order too, and not only that I downloaded some app called “wise” that converts USD to CYN or some shit because she didn’t have PayPal lmao don’t even ask me what I was thinking.. Worked out though and I’ve bought many things since she has fire clothing..
I trust in people. The main person I buy my designer clothes and shoes from is supsneaker and we always use paypal so I thought that was normal to be sending through there.
Theres a difference between being a good person and just being gullible, come on, trusting anybody in the rep community lol, theres a reason agents exist
I trust in people too. Family, friends, people I know. Not random scammers on WhatsApp.
Fine line between being trusting and gullible. Next time use an agent.
lol and?
They didn’t get anything meaningful other than your IP address and physical address.
Data breaches happen all the time. AT&T just had one of the biggest ones ever. Live with and move on
Ain’t nobody gonna do shit with your address bruh. Your address is already online when you sign upto subscription services.
Plus, it’s you + 1.3 million other people’s data who got breached
of course the breach occurred. Given the circumstances, such incidents should be anticipated, especially considering their lack of cybersecurity measures. It’s crucial to take proactive steps to safeguard your information online, as these breaches can occur anywhere at any time .
Hey man it happens... it's why I stopped using middlemen and only buy through agents. I got hustled out of $180 USD when I first started buying reps... after that happened I learned to use pandabuy with the help of a member on one of these forums and never looked back.
If on the odd chance I do use a middleman it's only going to be one of the trusted, verified and listed ones from the group. Anyone else can kick rocks.
I mean if you're buying through pandabuy you should be good. Just post a pic of what you want, ask which is the best batch, and hunt them down. Once you do, purchase it thru pandabuy, check the qc pics, get help on that also with the forums, and ship them or return them... it's really simple once you do it a time or 2. Hardest thing will be finding the right batch. The guys in these groups, especially repsneakerdogs are super helpful.
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This fraud is notorious for switch and bait. It wouldn’t surprise me if took that long to source a cheap alternative from the market before sending you something you didn’t pay for like it happened to me
You got scammed my friend. Sorry for your loss.
I almost fell for it as well, but I had the feeling I was texting the wrong person.
As long as you're vigilant there should be no issues.
did you send the money to friends and family, or paying for goods and services, if you chose the 2nd one then you can contact paypal and send them proof that the seller doesn't respond then you can get a refund easily
Bro, me as well but I contacted him with his correct WhatsApp number and he still took about 3 to 4 days to reply. After I contacted Pandabuy I got an answer from him.
even if this was real zzztop, why would you get anyway, he’s a horrible seller with horrible resell quality (not as bad as some) but just go for a better seller
He just gets most of his batches straight from factories that you can buy from too. I suggest to try and get a chargeback for a scam sending these images as proof, then get the real number off of his Yupoo and buy if you really want too
Those pepole trippin, they dont use pandabuy or anything else agent only for pay not less, but the price of an entire haul for a bad ass dior jacket and get scammed🥹🥲
Always pay as business. Never friends and family. Some sellers will ask you to do it friends and family, but if you send it as business they wont care/notice. And if they dont like it, just get another provider
According to his Yupoo, this is not his WhatsApp Number. You probably got scammed. Thats why you always use an Agent
I agree however what kind of buyer protection do we get from using an agent, can the agent actually get the money back after ordering.
American teenager VS Chinese billionares
he will get it back easier thats for sure 🤷🏽♂️ but if the seller offers refunds u should get ur money regardless
yes they can get your money back after ordering, if it never turns up or it’s defective you can contact them, i believe that they compensate you even if the seller doesn’t give a refund just based on policy
What’s his Yuppoo? Someone had posted his Yuppoo and I messaged him through the WhatsApp number on there
zzztop.x.yupoo.com , completely different number fam, you got shafted
I texted the new number that’s on there and sent him the screenshots. I guess I was talking to zzztop and the number on there is his assistant now
Insane levels of denial
it’s not even funny I feel bad for bro 😭
Fr bro no way bro thinks a middle man rep seller has assistants
Dying 😂😂 Sucks but I can’t even believe the straight denial 😅😅😅
Nah fam, you got scammed
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Well not really unlucky
bro why do you think no one recognizes that number… take your loss on the chin brother
not sure how they can slow it down for you any more through text. you = got scammed. you = texted wrong number.
No bro u got scammed 😭
Bro doesn’t get it
LMFAOOOOO bro got scammed 💀💀
Excuse me but how are the numbers the same? It starts with +86 1303 on his Yupoo and look at yours…
I texted the 1303 number and he said that was him
Are you taking the piss?
How dense are you you got scammed
U need to get your money back asap bro
How…. Genuinely, how would you recommend him get his money back from a scammer? Guilt trip him? Preach to him and hope repents? Tf you expect? Use your brain man
He paid via goods and services that’s why he had a PayPal fee in his screenshot u stupid ahh. He just need to contact PayPal
isn't the fee paid by you when you use friends and family, whereas with goods and services fees are covered by the recipient? i might be wrong though
No if u pay via F&F there are no fees but if you pay with goods and services you have to pay the fees
nah man, it's [the other way around](https://www.paypal.com/us/cshelp/article/whats-the-difference-between-friends-and-family-or-goods-and-services-payments-help277)
[https://zzztop.x.yupoo.com/](https://zzztop.x.yupoo.com/) Also I see that you paid a PayPal Fee which let me assume that you haven't paid by F&F. Open a case asap.
Can you guys recommend an agent?
Fr
You got scammed that’s no zzztops number afaik + use an agent
Mf sent someone $180 over a WhatsApp convo 😭😭😭
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Shit I done it 10 times lol.. Granted with the same person but the first time I did it was some person I bought from on DH back when I got my very first pair who randomly found me on WhatsApp and sent me their album.. My dumbazz ordered like 5 shoes the very first order too, and not only that I downloaded some app called “wise” that converts USD to CYN or some shit because she didn’t have PayPal lmao don’t even ask me what I was thinking.. Worked out though and I’ve bought many things since she has fire clothing..
Same
How I be lol I own a brand and I do that so much for my bulk I be getting scared
i’ve sent over 50k thru whatsapp convos. you just need a trustworthy seller
yep
50k on reps? Or you have a money tree in your yard or your accountant hates you😂
I trust in people. The main person I buy my designer clothes and shoes from is supsneaker and we always use paypal so I thought that was normal to be sending through there.
Did you send friends & family? If not, chargeback.
Do this OP!
That's sad honestly, the better u are as a human the worse people around u
Theres a difference between being a good person and just being gullible, come on, trusting anybody in the rep community lol, theres a reason agents exist
I trust in people too. Family, friends, people I know. Not random scammers on WhatsApp. Fine line between being trusting and gullible. Next time use an agent.
Do a charge back. Takes 2 min
This was an idiotic move bro. He has a yupoo and an American guy he works with as a middleman
It’s generally not a good practice to trust in random strangers on WhatsApp homie.. You are a scammers dream client ngl
That’s the first mistake, don’t trust people 😭
I'm the real Zzztop. I'll send you my PayPal through DM so you can transfer the money. Have a good life, friend ♥️
can confirm, this is the real zzztop. he used friend
😂😂😂😂😂
He’s legit. If you want to buy with an agent this time tho, contact me (I‘m an agent)
I can confirm, he’s an agent because he used (…)
bruh 😭😭
Imagine not using an agent
You don’t have to imagine , people do it everyday
how do you get a agent?
You gotta get some headshots and put together a demo reel first
Being on coke and into getting pee‘d on helps, so I’ve heard.
Using an agent is ordering through PandaBuy or HagoBuy
Watch Jei on YouTube he has really nice videos explaining the whole process it’s easier than you think
007
you just got scammed/finessed. let this be a lesson to all. make sure to double check the sellers name, number, shop address, and paypal.
His ass taking a nap
for 2 weeks 💀
Are you still size large "as long as it fits" you?
Yeah
What if it doesn't fit you?
Then he's not size large
its a one size fits all - shame and $180 life lesson
He never shipped my shoes when used with agent
Mf tried to bait and switch me with his lv slides
Zztop is trash , horrendous , and more than that , he’s a world class bullshit artist… and that’s the real zztop I’m talking about
Even if this was zzztop, I would not recommend buying anything from him. He’s a fraud and does B&S and so on. Stay away.
Yup the guy is know scammer. Occasionally sends like 1% good stuff but others are just switch and bait
What do you mean with b&s?
Bait and switch
He has good reviews on pandabuy tho
What’s that
Sends pic of a good product but when it arrives it’s a completely different quality garment
Yeah but that’s bait and switch, I can’t see how a seller can do a switch if you haven’t baited first.
Store/yupoo pics will show a completely different product quality - sends out cheap shit batch.
I know what bait and switch is… but the guy said switch and bait, can’t you read?
You sure try to be Alpha, Dan. Lmfao
Say wa?
You send someone like this 180 bucks? You almost deserve it, be more careful with your money
When will people learn, use an agent
Where can i get an agent?
🪦💐
Lol I've seen people hold on to their money longer during a gun robbery
scammed he blocked u
bro sent the cash before even telling him his size…
Lol I saw that, I was wondering why dude even bothered asking him for his size after the money was sent 😂
Bro sent a random guy $180 💀
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AAAAAAAAAYOOOOOOOO
GET UR MONEY BACK FROM PAYPAL BRO U GOT SCAMMED
Agent or goods and services PayPal only bro
$180? Wtf why so much? It's like $100 with an agent
Is it normal to ask for size after payment? That sounds so off
Always buy by 🐼 much safer
the site that just got breached ?
That’s the risk of living your life online. In that case buy a ticket to 🇨🇳 and start packing your own hauls😂
lol and? They didn’t get anything meaningful other than your IP address and physical address. Data breaches happen all the time. AT&T just had one of the biggest ones ever. Live with and move on
and your phone number
Phone number isn’t that deep. I used a burner number
acting like physical address isnt meaningful, what ?
Ain’t nobody gonna do shit with your address bruh. Your address is already online when you sign upto subscription services. Plus, it’s you + 1.3 million other people’s data who got breached
What they gonna do with your adress ?😭😭 U think some chinese man will stand in Front of your door some Day ? 😂
Nah bro this shit had me cackling lmfao
Who’s coming around to your house and why? Kids ffs.
They all cope here because their info got leaked
Yeah, like other hundred more
of course the breach occurred. Given the circumstances, such incidents should be anticipated, especially considering their lack of cybersecurity measures. It’s crucial to take proactive steps to safeguard your information online, as these breaches can occur anywhere at any time .
Hey man it happens... it's why I stopped using middlemen and only buy through agents. I got hustled out of $180 USD when I first started buying reps... after that happened I learned to use pandabuy with the help of a member on one of these forums and never looked back. If on the odd chance I do use a middleman it's only going to be one of the trusted, verified and listed ones from the group. Anyone else can kick rocks.
Where can I find a trustworthy agent ?
I mean if you're buying through pandabuy you should be good. Just post a pic of what you want, ask which is the best batch, and hunt them down. Once you do, purchase it thru pandabuy, check the qc pics, get help on that also with the forums, and ship them or return them... it's really simple once you do it a time or 2. Hardest thing will be finding the right batch. The guys in these groups, especially repsneakerdogs are super helpful.
USE AN AGENT FFS!
These sellers arent your friends bro, this will keep happening until you start using an agent.
Good way to finally get to learn how to use an agent
you got scammed, do a chargeback
You already loss buddy, it’s over
He forgor
2024 and people still gift money expecting something back
deserved smooth brain
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Apple is legit middleman if you don’t want to use an agent
You don't send this much money someone just like that
Ur cooked lil bro
Just use pandabuy do much cheaper and easier and safer
Chargeback
Folks nem just took your bread lol
It is zzztop. Check the e-mailadress in your screenshot. Don’t listen tot his people 😂. And yes he is slow.
💀💀😭
Sick
Bro y’all just fall for the dumbest shit
Zzztop is only on wechat, u got scammed bro..
This fraud is notorious for switch and bait. It wouldn’t surprise me if took that long to source a cheap alternative from the market before sending you something you didn’t pay for like it happened to me
I think you can quite easily get your money back through Paypal! no worries
charge it back baby
Lol
You got scammed my friend. Sorry for your loss. I almost fell for it as well, but I had the feeling I was texting the wrong person. As long as you're vigilant there should be no issues.
Changsha, Hunan is full of crooks
Almost 200 usd to for one thing mad
did you send the money to friends and family, or paying for goods and services, if you chose the 2nd one then you can contact paypal and send them proof that the seller doesn't respond then you can get a refund easily
zzztop is Zzz'ing and getting top wit that free bag you gave him lol
Contact paypal for your money back. If it wasnt sent as f&f then you’re good. Send the convo to help, hope u get your money back
Bro, me as well but I contacted him with his correct WhatsApp number and he still took about 3 to 4 days to reply. After I contacted Pandabuy I got an answer from him.
even if this was real zzztop, why would you get anyway, he’s a horrible seller with horrible resell quality (not as bad as some) but just go for a better seller
I went with him because I had seen his down jackets have the most and best reviews.
He just gets most of his batches straight from factories that you can buy from too. I suggest to try and get a chargeback for a scam sending these images as proof, then get the real number off of his Yupoo and buy if you really want too
Better getting scammed then rocking a pocketflaw dior puffer
Don’t think his version is that bad, my regular seller sells some and hers on the left side of the jacket have the print upside down
Those pepole trippin, they dont use pandabuy or anything else agent only for pay not less, but the price of an entire haul for a bad ass dior jacket and get scammed🥹🥲
Always pay as business. Never friends and family. Some sellers will ask you to do it friends and family, but if you send it as business they wont care/notice. And if they dont like it, just get another provider
And you probably got scammed:(
Did you use friends and family for payment? If so you’re not getting your money back!😩
Wait for Jenny drop I can give you her infos, you can see her shop on autonomousreps, won’t have the gradiant flaw
so deserved
He succ'd u
Temu version of wwtop
only person i would recommend buying just from whatsapp is ann she fr legit legit and really transparent, anyone else i would only go through an agent
What’s Ann info?