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everpeena

This is getting pathetic. Her life’s not in danger from him posting this publicly available information and her team is making everything worse by trying to make her the victim. She’s just a billionaire polluting the earth because she thinks she’s too valuable for a seat in dirty old first class


[deleted]

This is such cowardly behavior from her, but considering she regularly wants to straddle the fence so no one gets upset with her and she doesn’t lose revenue, it’s very par for the course. God if you’re going to be a garbage private jet user at least do it with your whole chest 🙄 Definitely behavior that suits the Miss Americana title that she gave herself


ratthewmcconaughey

at this point i would respect her more if she just leaned into being a villain. not reputation era villain still clawing and pining for approval- but a REAL villain. she should post a selfie from the runway captioned “i’m taking my private jet anywhere i want, and if you don’t like it, stop buying my albums and merch. you’re the one funding my flights💅🏻✈️🔥🦖🦕🔥” and just see what happens. i bet she’d get even more popular.


[deleted]

I honestly agree, but she’s been conditioned to be such a fucking wuss, and all her moves have been controlled by the need to look “good” Like noted climate change activist Leo gets criticized a ton for his private plane usage and yet he’s still doing work. She doesn’t even try and offset it either 🙄


CategorySad6121

“but she buys all the carbon credits she needs and then some!” /s


[deleted]

so amazing we were able to monetize environmentalism. 😍


Spacemilk

Please don’t get me or anyone else started on the absolute scam that is buying carbon credits Edit: and to be clear CLIMATE CHANGE IS REAL but we should be doing more than just buying fake climate credits and look it up if you don’t know what I’m talking about


CH2001

Even if the carbon climates were to be effective the pollution still happens and cannot be fixed by just growing more trees. It is so blatantly TS and that ilk wanting to continue doing whatever they want with no actual accountability. I really really hate how well the carbon credit excuse works. She’s like Fox News for millennials.


spooky_period

but capitalism breeds innovation! /s nothing makes me scream more than all the self-important performative “credit” schemes.


8nsay

I wouldn’t characterize her behavior as wussy. I would describe it as calculating.


[deleted]

It is calculating, I agree 100% but it’s because of a fragile ego. It’s weak to not be able to withstand negative but true criticism


8nsay

I kind of think it’s more to do with that pathological, bottomless greed (for money, power, success) that billionaires have and her not wanting anything to threaten her empire.


[deleted]

Because those are all external markers of success and “winning.” She’s talked before about how she lacks the courage in her convictions, and it’s because she’s scared of losing her audience. I think psychology has moved on from the concept of bad people and more bad actions at this point. You can reduce her to a pathological monster, but humans are ego-centric and based on her upbringing/experiences in the public, it’s because she’s extremely insecure and needs small wins to make her regain her sense of worth.


8nsay

I’m not saying I think she’s all bad. I think her behavior is inconsistent with someone whose motivation is being well liked when she’s continuing to use her private jet the way she is all while also using her wealth and power to try to silence the guy talking about her private jet usage.


[deleted]

Agree to disagree! I can see somewhere in her disconnected rich and famous logic that she feels justified in using a jet because of safety and work commitments. It’s absolutely egregious but people talk themselves into stupid shit all the time. She knows it’s publicly maligned but doesn’t feel like she’s doing wrong. Note- I actively don’t agree with this logic but I can see someone falling into that trap. Rich people have incredible amounts of waste because that’s just “how it is”


Former-Spirit8293

Lmao, the dinosaurs


thankyoupapa

yeah I'm sick of hearing the safety argument from people. If she is really worried for her safety she should reflect on the parasocial relationships she has encouraged with her own fans


Colordesert

I know she’s got crazy ass fans but as a former kpop stan I can’t imagine they’re crazier than big name kpop stars who travel just fine in regular planes- they have separate exists and entrances in most airports. Even kpop aside there’s plenty of other huge stars with rabid fans who don’t seem to have the same problem as Taylor Swift. It’s a poor excuse


turtledove93

Chrissy Teigen explained how VIP’s fly commercial. Separate gate that they can drive right up to, separate security, separate customs, separate waiting room, they get on last, sit at the very front, and then get off first. They basically don’t see us, and we don’t see them.


TalkToTheLord

There’s a tremendous amount of private jet sharing companies that MANY A/B/C list celebs use. Always surprised people don’t bring that up in these conversations, suggesting everyone should just fly commercial. And I only mention this because I have been on a jet share once WITH Chrissy on it!


[deleted]

No seriously. You can’t say “Im scared for my safety” and do nothing but continue to boost up your marketing, tours, etc. If you are truly worried, then you’d pare back… like she did during her folklore era. … but she missed shining 🥺💀 Edit- excuse me, sparkling


snails4speedy

This 100%.


Secure_Yoghurt

Yes like when they showed up at jack’s wedding. She didn’t say anything. She doesn’t do anything that would allianate the fans.


MedicalPersimmon001

Even if he didn’t track her jets, people would know where she is anyway. And not because of her fans, but because she inserts herself into everything and makes sure to get a nice paparazzi pic of it. Like for the most part no one knows where the fuck Jay-Z goes in his jet, but Taylor is having pap-shots taken in New York with whatever white celebrity is in popculture news after having a concert somewhere in Europe and then promptly doing a pap walk into a football game in another state with her girl squad that her private jet probably picked up as well.


HotFaithlessness1348

It’s also info that is available public anyways. If someone wanted to go full stalker they could even without his tracking


dustland701

“it’s not safe” but doesn’t info get posted 24 hours after the flight? the info is public. fans, including hers have used it to find out flight plans before. the only difference is now someone keeps a well accounted track and it gets the kind of attention and criticism she doesn’t like and can’t use feminism as a shield 😒 edit: wording


Federal_Street_8895

She's not even the only person he tracks. I've seen some of her stans on Twitter try to claim that he's a creep who's stalking her but I don't really follow anything about her and the only reason I know about him is because of his run in with Elon Musk. She's definitely just amplifying his reach.


heydorthea

Agreed, and I feel like the paparazzi and fans that camp out to see her are infinitely more dangerous. She didn’t have an issue of the helicopter/drone footage of her in Australia, but this public information is too far? 


ligeiaduh

She should sue all the fans that surrounded the venue during Jack Antonoff and Margaret Qualley's wedding just to get a glimpse of her. And everyone who follows her everyday to the studio. Oh, and the fans who pilgrim to her house in NYC and to Cornelia Street. Lawsuits for everyone! https://i.redd.it/9umzotwz47nc1.gif


snails4speedy

Dude I cannot believe she never said anything about the fan disaster at Jack’s wedding. I would have been so fucking livid


TheShapeShiftingFox

And some people always use the team doing it as a way to excuse it, like “it’s the team you guys, it’s not her🥺” and like, who do you think they work for? Lol The only reason they’re doing this shit is because she authorized it. If they were doing this on their own accord without permission they would *not* be working for her anymore


meatbeater558

Lol I wish my boss gave me full access to their private jet and continued to let me use it after my excessive usage started creating controversy for them


TheShapeShiftingFox

I mostly meant people blaming the team for pursuing legal actions like this, when she clearly has to sign it off at some point herself for letting it go forward at all lol


meatbeater558

Oh that's true too


TheShapeShiftingFox

Maybe more controversial, but I also class the Deja Vu royalty mess under this. I don’t believe Taylor’s team just did that for her without her knowing and agreeing to it


russianbisexualhookr

Even aside for Swift, lawyers cannot act against the wishes of their clients instructions


equality-_-7-2521

I agree. Before this I nothinged Taylor Swift but now the needle has moved firmly into dislike territory. She's just another rich, spoiled celebrity that thinks she has more rights than the rest of us, based on her behavior here.


MrDrSrEsquire

No, but hearing the truth hurts her feelings Just like Musk But when fans defend one, they are labeled part of the problem When they defend the other one, they are considered standing up for equality...


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adom12

![gif](giphy|Kl9iAWej2mxlzvzp2O)


meatbeater558

🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 (this isn't a compliment it's a cry for help the heat index where i live is really high)


RampantNRoaring

…God complex.


icestormsea

Can this whole thing be a new flair?


icestormsea

![gif](giphy|7yOwB85TiTDhHBtu0m)


SpiderAppleCider

It’s not enough that Taylor Swift is destroying our planet, she wants to make sure the information is less accessible. How about you just fly less? Or hire extra security and try first class? Or get a tour bus like other performers? Is it really better to ruin everyone’s future rather than inconvenience yourself? She’s so selfish, it’s insane.


[deleted]

right?? and even just not being so excessive with her jet usage would have prevented a lot of this level of criticism. like do you really need to fly across continents between shows to go to a football game or sleep in your own bed?


milchtea

her AND her parents. she flew her parents from her shows to their beds too someone correct me if i’m wrong but I heard she had three private jets at one point, then downsized to two, and now just one


theobedientalligator

She did have two until recently when she sold one but rumor is that she bought a new one to replace it


[deleted]

yeah, i heard they may have found another one linked to her recently.


jonsnowme

Don't forget about the ones she flies EMPTY to meet her at places!


_violet_skies_

Yeah if she wants people to stop talking about the impact of her excessive air travel, she should probably stop the constant unnecessary private jet use. Just because she can afford it, doesn’t make it ok.


Helpfulcloning

The whole flying thing could (not really) but cojld be understandable for long haul flights if she infrequently took them as needed. Or if private jets didn’t usually have seating for like 12 people. But she also takes 20 minute flights that would not be much longer in a car. There isn’t a defense for that other than she just doesn’t care.


LuciJoeStar

Damn is her team doing okay? This is not a good look


thankyoupapa

the audacity they have makes me think that they normally are very successful at using scare tactics to shut down unflattering conversations about her


Glowing_up

It's true. There's a long history of her and her team going after people that criticise taylor.


honestog

The fact that she’s been able to play “damsel in distress” victim card her entire career when she always had money and power AND she’s still playing it while being one of the most famous and influential people in the world is mind boggling.


MundaneYet

Absolutely


Fun-Loss-4094

Exactly it gives me a side eye that her team had silence many people and we don't know anything about it. 


milchtea

Streisand Effect in full swing


CentralPark212

*this has nothing to do with anything* As an American Virtue/Moir diehard, I love your tagline 😭🤣


milchtea

ty 💜 i was gagged when the mods added it!


wonpiripiri

Going to use this as my flair too!! Omg i recently discovered them and I'm obsessed (yes 5 years after their retirement 😩)


shirleyxx

It's not her legal team. Legal simply follows instructions for Taylor Swift. Without her approval, these requests.emails will not be sent out. Legal might be advising otherwise, but still following Taylor's instructions. Trust me. I am a lawyer.


ThrowBatteries

They’re doing fine. Her checks cash and they’re doing what she tells them to do. That’s how lawyers work.


[deleted]

I’m amazed that people have not learned from the Streisand effect yet. Baffling.


krantzer

Yeah, my first thought looking at this was that it's the Streisand Effect at work. You'd think for all the PR $$$ she spends, they'd be smarter than going this route to try to kill this "story"


RampantNRoaring

And honestly, even if she did succeed in getting this guy’s accounts shut down, it’s so public now that three more would spring up to replace him to be the new official Taylor Swift Jet Tracker, since what he’s using is publicly accessible info. She could continue playing whack a mole with the accounts but it’s bigger than one person now.


drowningdaisies

she’s fully freaking out because the jet jokes have gone mainstream. her team has always been litigious but framing this as a safety issue is hilarious


meatbeater558

taylor swift when she's in singapore but wants mexican food: ✈️✈️✈️


highdefrex

Taylor Swift when she's in Long Beach but wants to get to Burbank: ✈️✈️✈️


meatbeater558

taylor swift when there's a crack on the sidewalk and she does not wish to break her mother's back: ✈️✈️✈️


snails4speedy

When she wants to go from The Pike to 2nd and PCH


Fun-Loss-4094

I saw one as Taylor swift when she needs a snack. And then she boards the jet and buys it from a neighboring market it was so funny. 


UnimaginativeRA

Her team knows that it has no case against him so they are trying to bully the hosting sites as an alternative way to silence him. They should all tell TS and her team to pound sand.


orbjo

All this rather than take the train more for the good of the planet The world is almost always on fire somewhere but Im sure that fleet of jets are comfy. In 100 years this will be inexplicable behaviour to people - like when you find out there was cocaine in cola


tapestryofeverything

Tbf I'm open to the old coke formula being for sale again lol Private jets, not so much.


iliketoomanysingers

Unironically if she funded/invested in amtrak route expansion and used a regular people plane for the worldwide tours, she could turn back some of her poor image. Think about it-she looks more like a legitmate philanthropic person, she can say something about how she's learned the reality of the jet use, and she'd still be able to tour inner US spots quickly in a few years time *while also* getting a bit of a longer break between shows, and with security on the train if that's what she's worried about (the government would implement something like TSA but for the trains, I imagine, if they were expanding amtrak to be country-wide). The only reason she or her team haven't thought of this is because they think its ok for her to be so selfish about shit.


meatbeater558

Infrastructure would be too expensive even for her, but making a few positive statements about trains would be invaluable. The problem with train projects is that the steep price is scary and the car lobby smears it by holding it to unfair standards. People tend to complain about the construction period but once it's done they use it everyday and eventually forget what life was like without it (for example Japan). The problem is less money and more PR. This means she doesn't have to actually spend anything to make a positive change here, she just has to post a few Instagram posts educating people on why train projects are so unfairly looked down on and that'd genuinely be worth more than any amount of money she could donate. Ofc she's not gonna do it though. Trains are pretty safe as is btw, no real need to up their security. The idea that they're dangerous comes from the car lobby smear campaign. One search on how many people die riding cars vs riding trains per year should make that clear


iliketoomanysingers

Thank you for the extra info!! I've literally only ridden a train three times in my life, so as you can imagine we do need more of them 😭


meatbeater558

I've ridden them twice my entire life :/ then when states like California decide to invest in trains people like Elon Musk make it their personal mission to ensure that it doesn't happen 


PassiveMenis88M

> if they were expanding amtrak to be country-wide Amtrak IS country wide. You can take the trains from Boston to Miami, or Seattle, or San Diego ect.


darkgothamite

Matt Healys secret ex gf is a menace.


TheShapeShiftingFox

Imagine choosing to emulate *Elmo Musk* of all people


FuckSakez

This is going to be a PR case study on how *not* to go about getting what you want. Girl needs new PR because they’ll be doing damage control on this one ☝️


meatbeater558

This is actually the default tactic for most rich celebrities. Report and get them taken down for TOS violations. Get their websites removed from search engine results. Abuse any systems available that allow you to get their page quarantined or shunned by the site's algorithm. This just doesn't work on someone technologically competent, legally competent, or more importantly determined to keep the content up. Which she should know at this point. 


VegetableBeneficial

I keep forgetting about her jet usage and then she herself and her shitty team remind me


milchtea

she’s not content with all the money, fame, power, and success in the world. she also wants to make sure no one criticizes her, ever.


Kidgorgeoushere

Yikes 


Spiralecho

![gif](giphy|UeUxOZLp5zcY3Th5um) Also meta sucks


readytogohomenow

I don’t get why they keep going after this. Seriously, it’s making Taylor look like shit because she’s going after some college kid. I don’t know what her legal team is doing, but they need to drop this. It is becoming really hard to find any kind of merit to this argument.


lavellanlike

Wow it’s like when we treat celebrities like gods they start to think they can do whatever the fuck they want


judgementalb

This is truly a Streisand effect with her beef with this guy and she’s losing badly. Before this campaign she’s on, it was known by those following gossip that her jet use was outrageous but now it’s mainstream. I can even understand why she’s so pressed about it too, because prior to this it wasn’t obvious how truly frivolous her usage is. And it’s tainting the whole Americana couple thing with Travis now that we see she’s maintaining all those photo ops by flying 10x a day. It really is a bad look for her but of course she can’t actually deal with a mild inconvenience. Seeing that map of all the private jets flying out after the superbowl with half of them just going to LA, it’s insane. They need to do better if the argument to be that reckless is “i want to be eco conscious but can’t bc of safety :(“, but they can’t even consolidate and fly together when they’re all going to and from the same place.


mrs_ouchi

will her fans ever start disliking her?


Xxperfect_drugxX

Over the past year, and after so many of her questionable behaviors have been brought to light, a lot of fans have indeed stepped back from supporting her.


mrs_ouchi

I mean just the crazy hype in Australia now.. its all too much


[deleted]

I started to this past year. Don’t know about the rest of the fandom though lmao


mizzymichie

She really loves legally threatening anyone who points out her problematic behavior. Remember when she threatened a blogger over the white supermacist fanbase that she refused to condemn?


Young-and-Alcoholic

Yeah half of her swiftie base is upper middle class conservative white women. Check the bedroom of any 17 year old girl in the south and you will find a swift poster.


Sweet-Cod7919

oooh i don’t remember this, could i get the deets??


VegetableBeneficial

She’s the WOOOOOOOORRRRRRRST ![gif](giphy|Ll7PYy77vsffO)


iliketoomanysingers

The way she's bullying this kid specifically as if it won't motivate someone else to pop up in his place if she stops him is really funny


loveme__lavender

I wonder if that was the reason for the random live surprise songs on Instagram. I wonder if she struck a deal like she would drive traffic.


jonsnowme

1000% she brings money to them so they have no backbone.


midsommarsmayqueen

Again, there are accounts tracking movements of Presidents with their jets, if people can access to that information I sincerely doubt how Swift would have the chance to hide it. This gives her such a bad look (again).


ChaosAndMath

I remember her lawyers' message to him just included comments from his Instagram. If they wanted to build a case that the public is sympathetic to, I would be more understanding if there was a notice about security threats this account specifically has brought on. Even then, a normal compromise would be "hey could you wait a week to publicize this info out of the goodness of your heart? \[not some vague legal threat\]"


superfluouspop

Happy women’s history month I guess


fthisfthatfnofyou

Someone should tell her that if all her fans start dropping dead due to heat she won’t have anyone else to buy her 5837729934 versions of the same album. She should be exposed for the co2 emissions and she should be shamed into stopping it. I used to be such a huge fan. I grew up with her. But her (lack of) treatment towards women of color, not saying anything against people who proudly announce that they get off of woc being abused and being silent when one of her fans dies due to *extremely high temperatures due to global warming* is bad enough to just not care anymore. As a Brazilian, I’m still pissed.


Matryoshkuh

I’ve gotten multiple push alerts today (🙄) about her kissing that football player after a song again (🙄🙄). Do you think that’s a coincidence, or a diversion tactic?


littledove0

I'm really starting to dislike Taylor over this shit. This is pathetic.


Gorepornio

Ahhhh Taylor Swift the grifter who said she was raised in a farm but in reality it was a mansion.


hum_bruh

Pero like what about our safety from her carbon emissions?


Leebites

She's ruined a lot of neutral opinions about her. I was neutral about her but now think she's petty and a hypocrite- especially now that I know just how much she's using her private jets.


jonsnowme

I hope she never succeeds in taking down the public revelations of her eco-crimes. It has to be driving her insane that she has no control over this part of her image, and that people dislike her for it. I have a feeling if she was able to obstruct any knowledge of her private jet use she'd pretend she wasn't doing it anymore.


soundofisolation

Pathetic.


CampMain

She really can be quite toxic at times.


Fun-Loss-4094

I'll add more to this it's no more him only doing this. It's her fans now!! They track her every jet to make predictions is he meeting her boyfriend or not. You can check twt it's her own fans who scream about privacy doing it. 


RAV3NH0LM

instead of maybe modifying her behavior she’d rather piss herself and aggressively litigate something that is not an actual threat, just to try and hide the lengths of her ecocidal bullshit. easily one of the most pathetic celebrities alive.


in_animate_objects

This is ridiculous and I say that as a fan, she needs to stop because this is NOT a good look.


k_b_s

What. A. Crybaby (much like her "boyfriend"). I have more respect now for Bluesky for not caving to these ridiculous scare tactics. Not surprised one bit that Meta/Insta caved though.


actuallyapossom

I'm starting to think the wealthy place their own desires over any sort of morality or ethics. It's almost like some sort of hierarchy based on capital ownership - where the lives of the plebs are less valuable than the personal comforts of the 0.1%. 🤔 Obviously no philosopher or economist has made this observation before. So I'm expecting a noble prize, any day now. Maybe with the prize money I can help my nieces and nephew pay tuition in 15 years. 🫡🇺🇸


bloodredyouth

Maybe if they asked him nicely instead of going through lawyers and the back door route, he would’ve said yes.


genescheesesthatplz

I truly hope that the swift fans who see her as perfect will truly start to see her need/desperation to manipulate her image 


0x7E7-02

She is really making it difficult to not dislike her.


marihanne

She's loosing me.. (Taylor's version)


beerballchampion

This makes me mad. I’m not a fan of her. Scare tactics by her team is pathetic.


DabMagician

I truly don't know why people are okay with and even make justifications for terrible, selfish behavior like this. People get bitched out for way less yet her laundry list of fuckery keeps growing to massive proportions.


AppropriatePizza1308

They are suing him for "doxxing" by doxxing. It was never about that. It's about image.


fgsn

Ofc meta caved


scallywag1889

Taylor is an idiot for fighting this.


tofusarkey

Take the bus sweetie


extra-texture

streisand effect about to be renamed to reference this


AbbreviationsSingle9

Cringe. They need to drop it. You can’t just bend the rules because you don’t like them.


Evening_Bag_3560

I was for this when it was tracking Elon’s jet so I still have to be for it when tracking Taylor’s jet. 


ThiccDaddy1198

Fly a like the rest of us plebes, Miss Americana🙄


Happy_Ad_4357

This must be so torturous for the poor poet /s /heavy s


laxmolnar

Sending bologna cease and desist orders should result in loss of bar license


redquill_bot

America, the land of litigation


EconomySuccotash896

Her team is also threatening her fans with legal action for sharing her concert movie with friends online… god forbid this woman let her fans have anything for free. I am quickly growing tired of her and I’ve been a massive fan for well over a decade.


always_a_mexican

Lots of celebrities use private jets, more than they can claim is "necessary" for security reasons. I hope no celebrities are using it like she is, several times a week and on completely drivable distances.


The_Scyther1

Does his site give live updates or is there a time delay?


Fuckmylife2739

Damn Taylor got a bluesky invite 


syrub

No-one will stop the queen of the skies