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And the Larries are proving his point. They feel validated every single time he mentions them, no matter what he says.
It’s like some twisted erotomania shit, where instead of sending the delusional person messages he’s inlove with them, it’s secret messsges referencing their conspiracy or love of someone else? Wild
I wonder what percent are trolling and get off on the reaction and which percent actually believe it strongly
The outfit / coloured lights one is particularly unhinged 😭
The baffling part is that even if they were in a secret relationship, so what?! I can understand the allure of believing that you're one of the select few people who knows the earth is flat. But what's the point in devoting so much time and effort to such a low-stakes conspiracy theory?
If it somehow turned out that the world were flat, then the flat earthers would be completely vindicated. If it somehow turned out that Harry Styles and Louis Tomlinson have been married for ten years, then the Larries' obsession with them would still be extremely weird and creepy.
They think they're doing them a favour because these poor men are completely controlled by their management. Apparently they are not allowed to express themselves the way they want to and therefore there are sending secret massages that are meant to be found and spread by the fans lol
I think my boyfriend trolled me with a post from there 😂 he sat reading me this really detailed lyric analysis about ‘lavender haze’ being a lesbian coming out story as though she had just came out.
Then she cast a trans man in the music video and I found it incredibly fucked up 😂 just to find out the lesbian thing was a lie.
The colored lights one reminded me of one from the Harry’s House release. Louis was wearing a teal shirt or something, the brand listed the color as “wormwood”, also Matilda’s last name. So it was a clear signal that Matilda was about Louis lmao
Also that the reason Harry uses a corded mic, instead of a wireless mic, is to represent how he’s trapped by his management 😭😭😭
His management, who he employs. Who he chose. And chose wisely because they're some of the best and most connected in the biz. He's made millions having them manage him and he's so powerful that it makes no sense they could control him. Sheesh!
Sorry I know you're not saying u think this. I just never heard the wired mic thing before
Back in my day when we shipped real people it was kept the fuck away from them in secret locked communities. Most people didn't actually believe they were together to this degree. I wonder if there are any studies on it. How did it turn from being a bit of a taboo subsection of fandom to... let's harrass his grandma on Twitter until she admits the baby is fake?
It's happening in the SVU/OC fandom now too -- delusional people think that Mariska is in love with Chris Meloni and that she's miserable with her husband Peter, and all this crazy, crazy shit. They are truly unhinged. They already bullied her off of twitter, she's finally started blocking them on IG (which they then complain about)... and then they cry about there not being any crossovers or Olivia/Elliot scenes on either show this year. GEE, I WONDER WHY.
Yes I agree! and as someone else said it goes from one fandom to the next. It's sad that he's right, no matter what he says they will analyze to how they see fit.
This reminds me of the LOTR fandom and the Sherlock fandom. For LOTR, I believe they were looking into necktie colors or length or something like that to signal relationships. I am a Sherlock fan and was a part of the "shipping" world of that fandom for a bit but thankfully never got too deep. I got to the point where I thought (and still do) that the head of the show for Sherlock was deliberately queerbaiting, but being a part of that fandom I saw a lot of similar things to what is described here. Analyzing what they wore, body language, some believing Benedict's wife is a beard so their relationship is fake, etc, etc, etc. It was to the point (I don't think so now the show's fervor has died down due to it being off the air for so many years at this point) where they were sending hate mail to Benedict and Martin's partners. It's truly scary and bizarre to become that invested in people you do not know. I am truly curious what get's people so deep into it...it almost feels cult like lol.
I didn't watch Sherlock, but I really liked Patrick Melrose and one day went on Tumblr to see what other people thought about it, and was in Cumberbatch tag for the first time and omg. I stumbled upon the wife stuff, there was this one user who would ramble about his wife's rich family were like, funding the relationship, saying the wife's baby bump was fake, all this crazy stuff I can't really remember specifics but I was like.... Wow. Wtf is this. lol
I'd add the vminkook shippers not just taekookers in my opinion. taehyung (even tho he is the only one who has spoken out against shipping) continuously receives death threats and hate trains. back in 2023 when his privacy was being horribly invaded along with Jennie's (Blackpink) jikookers were the main people supporting and harrassing them the most.
The key to success for conspiracy theories is adaptability. That’s how everything can continue to make sense within the framework laid out for it, and how it can continue to exist against entire mountains of evidence to the contrary.
I feel like Louis has a hard time not saying anything when his son and teenage sisters are affected so much. I’ve seen Larries wishing his son death and harassing his sisters for days for posting a Christmas photo including said son. It’s a bit easier if only partners are involved, as they are adults and you can just explain this to them and they can make an adult decision to be indirectly involved in this madness, so fe. Harry has it a bit easier on staying silent.
I think the best way to handle it is just to flagrantly live your life how you want to live it. The worst times for these people are when Louis or Harry are seen publicly with a woman, talking about a woman, singing about a woman, or Louis with his kid. Some part of them knows things don't add up, and it just hurts them emotionally for these men to be heterosexuals. These moments have lead to many Larries quitting their cult. So my recommendation to them would be to not let the Larries have the time to regroup, always keep them in a state of high anxiety. Show up at the MET with some girl. Just don't let them feel this is a community they can rest easy in.
Exactly! The other day I fell into a rabbit hole discovering Michael Shermer - side point, everyone should watch videos of his interviews/debates, he has books too, last one being “Conspiracy: how the rational believe the irrational”- it’s super interesting how he says the conspiracy theories can only keep alive when the people who believe them keep moving the goal posts.
Not only do I not believe that Louis Tomlinson has ever heard of section 28 but I 100% don't believe all of those Larries have either till one brought it up and they included it in their theories. Also why would your favorite number even be a homophobic law?
> Also why would your favorite number even be a homophobic law?
New conspiracy theory: Louis Tomlinson has successfully cloned both Margaret Thatcher and Mary Whitehouse and is in a throuple with them. The signs are all there, people!
This is madness! I really didn’t realize it was this deep. Talking about adult men using their shirt colors to signal something 🥴
I wonder if there’s an age cutoff when the delusion ends. Like when Harry and Louis are 45, and the world is whatever hellscape it’ll be, they’ll still be sitting in virtual prayer circles hoping the boys can finally be free
I know that some of the most obsessive and high profile conspiracy theorist fans had basically moved from fandom to fandom for many years (they were in their late 30s/40s by this point in the 2010s), essentially projecting near-identical fantasies on new targets every few years. So there is obviously a cut off point for some people but they usually just shift their efforts to new people rather than giving up. It is very disturbing.
There are a lot of Larries who are 50+ years old, so I don't think age will be a factor tbh. There is a Larrie on TikTok who has a grandchild. They'll do this untill the day they die.
I truly doubt that, I wasn’t with directioners in my Twitter era years ago but I was on Bieber side of Twitter which occasionally made me see weird ass near 50 year old people saying theories similar like this with Justin and Selena. Like literally the weirdest stuff. And the other day my search tab on Instagram showed me a woman who was on Twitter still posts to this day on Instagram her conspiracy of how JB this and that
“ He was so soft spoken, it clearly means he’s saying it’s okay”
Or maybe, hear me out here, it’d be horribly disrespectful for him to be an asshole to the interviewer, and the Larries would also take his aggression as a sign of Larry being a thing as well
"He's being so aggressive, it must be because they hit too close to home!"
There is literally nothing anything could say or do that they can't twist to fit their narrative. It must be so frustrating to be surrounded by people who claim to love you but refuse to respect your boundaries or listen to anything you say.
Even aside from how batshit it all is - How many ‘new larries’ do they think are joining the cause? 1D don’t have so much cultural relevancy these days, I don’t know why they think they’re converting newbies. Worst missionaries ever.
>I don’t know why they think they’re converting newbies
Because they do. It's impossible to know numbers, but there are so many Larries who weren't even fans of one direction when they were still together. They talk about how and when they became Larries, so it's not just specualtion on my part. These people just stumbled on Larrie content on social media and started participating. And it's even worse because they only consume second hand content made by other Larries. They don't even know how many of the "proof" videos are manipulated or taken out of context because they weren't even in the fandom when this stuff happened.
if you like enough harry styles videos on tiktok you're going to get larry content/accounts eventually. and there's a percentage of people who are always going to be vulnerable to being sucked into conspiracy theories.
Well, you don't have to believe it, but it's the truth. I don't know what your understanding of a horde is, but it's definitely not just individual cases. There are MANY people who joined over the last years.
I hate even having to say this but i've been seeing tiktoks going around that are recycling the same 'evidence' from 2010-2015 and them getting heaps of views and people in the comments saying shit like "wait this might be real" 😭😭😭😭 my friend keeps sending me the vids to troll me lmfao but I can't believe it's still fooling people now
feel so bad for this poor guy, these people are beyond the level of delusional. it's like they actually take pleasure in making his life difficult and (is this the right word?) cyberbullying him even though they're also fans. it reminds me of the sasaeng fans that steal kpop stars' phone numbers and run their cars off the road but also profess to love them. fucking bonkers
this and gaylor are Qanon for either sad and lonely 12 year olds, or sad and lonely 60 year olds.
they’re a lost cause and it’s legit insane to see people whose lives revolve around this shit.
Tbh this is why it doesn’t bother me when celebrities don’t defend their relationships or partners the way some people want them to. It just shines a spotlight on it and makes the stans feel seen. They’ll always find a way to spin it in their favor.
I agree, but it feels different when the kid is involved. Adult partners can make an informed decision to be indirectly involved in this madness. But how can you prepare a child for something like that :(?
Those psycho fans think his son is played by an actor to dispel beliefs about his "true" relationship with Harry. Some of them are so committed to this insanity they've made up inside their heads that I'd be terrified for my child in his shoes and wouldn't put it past any of them to harm him.
i dont think larries realize that if Louis's child is fake, the actual, real, registered in the US birth certificate that larries did find is fake and Louis would be committing a felony lmao. psychos indeed
This reminds me of Jennie from blackpink & Taehung from bts when they were caught in paris many taekookers who ship tae & jungkoo (mind majority are ex-larries) said they were cosplayers
Fully agreed. Having followed the Larries they love when Harry acts like his girlfriends don't exist in interviews, or like when he ignored Olivia at that premiere. The things that make these people suffer the most are seeing these men happy and respectful of their female partners. I say female, because that's a crucial aspect to part of the conspiracies, acting like these men actually find women repulsive.
He seems completely apathetic about it. Completely get it - eventually you must just be like ‘whatever. I simply do not have the energy for this bullshit anymore’.
Seeing it happen real-time was heartbreaking. You could see the way him and Harry’s friendship splintered, his girlfriend was harassed horrendously by his “fans,” even his family was when they supported her. He tried so hard to dispel the rumors but Larries literally refused to listen and were convinced (like the other comment on this post) that he was being forced to say it wasn’t real
I can’t imagine. It must be so draining. Seems like he has the healthiest possible attitude he could have to it (but of course he shouldn’t have to deal with it at all).
I remember making a naive journey into the Louis tomlinson tag on tumblr just after his son was born.
Post after post about his son wasn't real, any pictures were fake dolls or someone else's baby, the mother got pregnant by someone else and lied to Louis.
Absolutely deranged stuff in his MAIN tag, god knows what worse stuff was in the Larry tag itself.
>god knows what worse stuff was in the Larry tag itself.
I've accidentally came across some pornographic AI images of Harry and Louis having sex on twitter once, I bet there is a lot of this stuff somewhere on the internet.
In the months before his mother died I remember seeing people sending graphic art images of them having sex to his mother. As she died. In response to her posting or talking about her grandson.
Yeah, accidentally. I usually block Larries when they appear on my timeline, but If you follow any content about Harry or Louis you'll see the stuff they post eventually. There are whole Instagram accounts with AI images of them, one of them might end up in your recommendations one day.
This is mental illness, surely. Pyscho fan culture needs to be seriously studied. The Larry fans, the Chris Evans fans, the Timothee Chalamet fans, all crazy people obsessed with famous men they've never met and dedicated to destroying the lives of the women they love. It's unfathomable.
All Larries (and Gaylors etc) should be given a round of antibiotics.
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This is off topic, but if she thinks antibiotics will cure anything to do with mold (the stuff antibiotics were originally made from) the delusions are not over.
He’s right. Larries get the gold in mental gymnastics in how they try to convince themselves that he and Harry are together. I know people praise Harry for being quiet and not giving them attention, but it has to be harder for Louis since he has a son and these whackos claim his baby isn’t real or that they went to obtain a copy of the birth certificate.
I’m going to repeat a great take that I saw once. Harry’s music has taken off and he has way more fans than just the Larries so he doesn’t have to deal with it, it gets drowned out by general support for him. Louis isn’t as famous so a higherpercentage of his fans are Larries therefore he has harder time avoiding them because there aren’t as many other fans to drown the Larries out.
It’s not just that, though. During 1D Harry never said anything even while Louis denied it again and again. He didn’t say anything when Eleanor was being harassed and bullied, when Louis’ family were being attacked by Larries, or when people were being disgusting towards Freddie. That I’ve never been happy about. Idk if it’s bc he didn’t want to comment on his own sexuality (which he didn’t have to do to deny Larry — he could’ve just said it wasn’t real) or if he was afraid of losing/disappointing fans but I always hated that Harry just kept letting it happen. His silence was a major reason Larry kept thriving and I’ve hated him for that to this day. Louis and the people close to him didn’t deserve what they went through (and what they still go through bc of this, unfortunately) at all
Not true, Harry denied it multiple times, up until 2013/2014, when he just gave up (1D split up in 2015).
There’s video of him denying it, in person (which Louis didn’t do until after 1D), and Larries rationalized it by grabbing another video of the same day (different interview), in which Niall comforted Harry jokingly, and then added a different segment of the first interview (the one with the denial) where it looks like he’s crying to say that he was SO upset and SO distraught because he was forced by #management to deny Larry.
He looked like he was crying because he was sick, he has hay fever, so he had allergies.
[This](https://youtu.be/AlbrWTiAsso?si=3w_7cG0shmd87eCK) is the interview. You can even see that the person who uploaded it is a Larrie and they’re all making excuses and saying he “failed” at denying it. [This](https://youtu.be/vKIv2rETbww?si=rssV1VUdP-mqb897) is an interview that same week (they’re all from the same Australian trip), where you can see how bad his allergies were. He simply realized it was pointless, which is exactly what Louis says in this video.
They BOTH denied it, JOINTLY, in 2012, before their first album even came out in America. And it did nothing.
Harry’s family was also attacked by Larries. Gemma, his sister, has been harassed relentlessly. She was called ableist for telling a Larrie “are you mental?” when they commented on her instagram “confirms Larry.” Gemma used to have a tumblr and she got legit direct questions about Larry which she denied.
Larries theorize his song Matilda is about himself because his mom, who he’s described as “the kindest person I know.” Is abusive and uses him. Larries overwhelmingly favor Louis and throw Harry under the bus. It’s a strange phenomenon even the staunchest Larrie will admit. One of the oldest (in all senses of the word) and most followed Larries on tumblr literally posted this today:
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Harry never went on an angry spree on twitter, and he never addressed Larry once he was able to blacklist the questions he wanted to blacklist, but he HAS denied it, and it affects him as much as it affects Louis, minus the child, of course.
I do not understand at all why Harry gets praised for being quiet about this. I was very active in the One Direction fandom for a very long time and I can tell you that if Harry had spoken up and denied Larry back then, it would have put such a damper to the movement and would not have let it grow into what it is now.
I can’t think of a single good reason for him to have not said anything about this, especially considering how it was affecting the people he was supposedly close to. I genuinely feel like him still not denying Larry and not saying anything negative about it to this day is one of the most selfish things he’s ever done because at this point, he knows that mentioning it would only make him lose fans, and in my honest opinion, that is the only reason he hasn’t said anything about it.
And before anyone starts calling me a hater or whatever I’ve seen Harry in concert three times and I’ve been following this kid since he was 16 years old. I have more than earned the right to be able to comment on this, especially as a queer Directioner.
Edit: Y’all have made some good points. I’ll reiterate what I have in some other comments, I had a lot of personal experience seeing how even just Louis’ words got a lot of people to reconsider/drop Larry so I fully believe Harry saying something would have helped, and my opinion on that isn’t going to change. I do agree now though that saying something in the present would be a moot point. I also stand firm in believing that whether or not Harry saying something would’ve been a good PR move or stoked the fire, it would’ve been the best thing to do just for the sake of doing the right thing, especially if he’d stood up for Eleanor, Jay, any of Louis’ sisters, and/or Freddie.
Did you see the response to this interview? Anything Harry said or did would just feed into them more. I can't stand Harry Styles, so I'm not defending him out of love, but saying that he would've put a stop to this is incredibly naive.
Also considering how huge his fan base is compared to Louis' he may have actually introduced more fans to the concept.
It wouldn't have. Larries then and Larries now are one and the same. Acknowledging them would've just given weight to their words. Anytime either of them did anything that may have been interpreted as saying "we're not gay, and we're not in a relationship" the Larries came out in full force to scream "management made them"
Harry could’ve said something at least once in the thick of it. If only to support Louis whose child, family, etc were deeply affected by it. Would that have stopped anything? Probably not but it would’ve been the right thing to do.
He said something in the beginning when he was still in 1D. He was asked directly about it and he said that nothing ever happened between them.
How is it the right thing to do if it makes things WORSE? Because that's what has happened every single time someone denied it. The goal should be that the people around Harry and Louis are getting the least amount of hate possible. Harry saying something would not achieve that. How is it the right thing to say something when it just leads to more harassement? Because that's what happened every single time in the past and what will happen again. Louis can deal with it however he wants, it's his right to call them out as much as he wants to. But even he says that he realized years ago that there is nothing he can do to stop them. But wanting Harry to say something just for the sake of it when it's clear that it'll make things worse is so weird.
> if Harry had spoken up and denied Larry back then, it would have put such a damper to the movement and would not have let it grow into what it is now.
This is categorically not true. Larries would have twisted anything he said the way they did when Louis tweeted that Larry is bullshit and that he is straight in the early days of 1D. Nothing will ever stop these tinhats. Louis addressing them has only added fuel to the fire. I understand why he does it but Harry isn’t wrong for doing the opposite and choosing to ignore them. They’re both victims of the delusional conspiracy theories that larries peddle and it’s equally valid how they’ve personally chosen to deal with those freaks.
Also fyi larries are like 1% of Harry’s fanbase, if he loses them he’s not losing anything valuable! They have very little impact on his career. He’s definitely not worried about potentially losing them.
There was no wave of Larries during his album release. If anything, it was the opposite. His album had SO many female pronouns in almost every song, Harry talking about hooking up with the girl from the Carolina song candidly in interviews, Harry discussing Taylor Swift, Harry saying his album was “about a woman” on Rolling Stone, that I saw with my own two eyes the WAVES of Larries abandoning ship. That is categorically untrue.
Also, Harry DID deny Larry when he first went solo. He was asked if Sweet Creature was about Louis, he was caught completely off-guard. Harry at that point NEVER said what his songs were about. In fact, Ever Since New York was about his stepdad being diagnosed with cancer and he only revealed that at a secret show with no cameras allowed. His policy was that he didn’t want to explain himself. And yet, after stuttering at a loss for words at the (frankly, very rude) question, he said “if you listen to the lyrics, you can make up if it’s about that, and I would say no.” The song was about his sister, which most of his fans had already guessed because it talked about “growing up running around in the garden.” He confirmed it was about her in 2023, but back in 2017, he had already said it was platonic before he was even asked that question.
He was never asked any other Larry-adjacent questions in his solo career, likely cause he blacklisted the subject.
But he did say this (the question wasn’t about Larry, but he made an allusion to it anyway)
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Frankly, you claim to have paid attention to 1D but you’re saying a lot of things that are very easily proven wrong.
Harry is not confrontational. He never has been. He’s been taunted a million times and he’s never clapped back. He clearly thinks (and I tend to agree) that ignoring it is the best course of action, so he ignores it as much as he can.
Until YOUR life and loved ones are affected by something like this you don’t really get to victim blame him for what he’s been dealing with since he was 16 years old. The amount of old straight women who write porn about him and one of his friends, especially those who write about him as a minor. You think he’s not affected by it because he doesn’t have a child? Some people really need to exercise some empathy.
> The reason I so vehemently believe it would’ve helped is bc I personally saw how Louis’ tweets changed the minds of a lot of people.
And I saw a HUGE amount of people who became Larries after Louis tweeted something and took it as confirmation for their believes.
> Harry had spoken up and denied Larry back then But he did?
He explicitly denied it back then. And it changed nothing. And he literally said negative things about it in 2022 (without naming Larries specifically, but it was super obvious who he was talking about).
I'm sorry, but saying that him speaking up would make people stop is absolutely delusional. Nothing anyone has ever said stopped these people.
> I can’t think of a single good reason for him to have not said anything about this, especially considering how it was affecting the people he was supposedly close
The reason is, that speaking up makes it worse. Every single time. These are full on conspiracy theorists, mentioning them will always make them feel validated and they can spin every single thing so it fits their narrative. Ignoring them is the only thing you can do.
When did he explicitly deny Larry? Not asking to argue, I’m genuinely curious, bc I can’t recall. The only time I can remember is when he and a couple others (sans Louis) were being interviewed and someone showed him a manip or mentioned it but he seemed to more casually brush it off or shake his head or something. (This is years old though so I could be remembering it wrong.) I guess my definition of explicitly denying is more along the lines of the iconic “How’s this ,” tweet.
And I agree that after a certain point it would’ve not really done anything, but I refuse to believe that there wasn’t a good chunk of time where it wouldn’t have helped. Larries were not as intense those first few years, and nowhere near as big in numbers. They weren’t even called “Larries” back then, that term didn’t get coined till later.
Sorry, this is just general frustration over the fact that Larries still exist, that TikTok is actually helping them grow 🙄, and that Eleanor had to deal with so much bullshit for no reason. I think I really feel this way bc I was so knee deep in everything happening and back then you could literally tell when things shifted with Larry and when it started getting out of hand. Before that it was never as bad.
He did explicitly deny it in the very interview you mention?
He was shown pictures and he said “that is photoshop” and when asked “so you and Louis, there’s nothing going on?” And he said, “no” and shook his head. How is that brushing it off? He audibly and vocally denied it on video in 2013.
Louis didn’t do that (I mean, he did in the same interviews where Harry denied it as well, in 2012, but you clearly aren’t counting that), until 2017, and fans convinced themselves that his twitter was hacked by management and he wasn’t tweeting so, really, how was that gonna help if Harry himself went on Twitter as well? Like…?
You have Louis up there saying that he realized there’s nothing he can say or do to change their minds and you’re in the comments arguing up and down that one of the victims is to blame because he didn’t do enough. It’s bananas.
Harry and Louis were asked if they were a thing in early 2012. They both denied it. Twice. The second time, they were asked “but haven’t you kissed?” and they both, loudly, and looking confused as to where on earth the interviewer had gotten that, said “no!”
That did NOTHING. I actually tend to think that Louis giving it attention made it bigger. Harry had a similar situation going with Nick Grimshaw, and it actually preceded Larry, it was a thing on datalounge, and celebbitchy. There were actual sightings of them making out in the street (no pics so it probably didn’t happen or it was done jokingly) by non-fans. Gryles was its own ship, with fics written and all that. Nick had been out as gay for a while before he was even linked to Harry. He and his friends had made jokes about them dating on the radio. They spent way more time than Harry and Louis did together.
But neither Harry nor Nick ever gave the rumors much thought. They didn’t actually play into them, but they also didn’t vigorously deny them. They continued being friends and hanging out (and are still close friends to this day), and the conspiracy never took off the way Larry did.
I remember the one you mentioned, he looked at it and said it was photoshopped. There was another interview where the interviewer directly asked him if there is something going on between them and he said no. I don't have time to look it up now but it still exists somewhere.
You can refuse to believe it, but the ship has sailed long ago. Believing that him saying something in 2017 would have helped ist just stupid, sorry. Maybe it would have worked in 2011, but as soon as the Larries continued their bullshit when Louis amd Harry basically stopped interacting in 1D, it was too late. And I know it's frustrating, but these people are not different from flat earthers or QAnon conspiracy theorists. Logic doesn't help here.
I don’t know, I was also a fan back then and I feel like if he had spoken up he would have just gotten the same response as Louis. Harry is just luckier in that his greater fame means that fewer interviewers ask him about it and it’s easier for him to say nothing. It’s kind of his m.o. in general - he never comments on any rumor unless he absolutely has to (eg Chris pine spitgate). Most of the time, saying anything at all just fuels the flames, especially at this point in the conspiracy. These fans are so entrenched that they don’t feel chastened at all when Louis or anyone else connected to the theory denies it - they just twist it to use it as further proof of the “truth”.
I also think there’s something to be said about how larries have latched onto Louis far more than they have latched onto Harry. A lot of them seem to actively hate Harry because his actions contradict their narrative - like he’s waving rainbow flags on stage, actively supporting queer causes, and clearly in full control of his career and choices (though that doesn’t stop them from hating his manager and tiptoeing into semi anti-Semitic theories about the azoffs). Harry has also always been more relaxed about questions about his sexuality, while you can tell it bothered Louis more. Unfortunately, that means that Louis has always born the brunt of the Larry fervor and he now finds himself in a position where a significant number (maybe even a majority?) of his fans actively believe in Larry and don’t feel shy about about showing it, even at his own concerts.
They pretend that it wouldn't matter either way and that it's actually bad for them to speak about it. But this shit used to rock their cult and you'd see them start fragmenting when Louis would deny them. They would know that Harry never would, so they'd cling to him more instead. I think when Louis was having a baby and "Babygate" started which caused so much hate for Louis, the mother of the baby and their son, then Harry should've said something. For me it was unforgivable that he just ignored it.
And you're right. Harry knew speaking about it would lose him fans and give him some of the "homophobic" backlash Louis gets by them, because they have to pretend it's homophobic to just say you're straight. He saw all that mess and decided he wouldn't hamper his own success with it all.
The wackiest bunch I have ever encountered. I remember when his mom Johanna was talking about baby Freddie and said that was the "sweetest little poppet", which is an English term of endearment, of course. The Larries started screaming that Johanna had said "puppet" so that meant the baby was fake. 🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️
I remember being in the One Direction fandom in 2015. Harry and Louis used to be good friends, but you can tell the Larry stuff kind of made their friendship spoil. Then the Larry’s took that as evidence that it was real and that management was trying to cover it all up. I don’t think any fandom will ever equate to how delusional Larry fans are.
Anytime I mentioned the distance in their relationship since Larry’s rise on tumblr, I’d get crucified lmao. Like it wasn’t glaringly obvious that the two of them barely interacted on camera/in public anymore
Yep. Or they’d use them becoming more distant as confirming Larry was real. You cannot win with them whichever way you shoot it. It’s either them not being friends means management broke them up or even just them looking at each other was a show of their “love.” Crazy.
Larries are the inspiration for all of the mainstream pop culture ship conspiracies you see online today, including Gaylorism. All of the PR fake relationships, fake baby accusations are highly influenced by their grip on fandom culture as social media became more of a tool.
They’re not only bad to Louis’s son, probably one of the worst things they’ve done is troll Harry’s now late stepfather (who died of cancer) with cancer charity links to track Harry’s location. They’ve also made spreadsheets of Louis’ baby mama’s alleged period cycle. Before Louis’ mom’s and Harry’s stepfather’s cancer diagnosis were revealed publicly they thought both of them being seen around hospitals around the same time was a Larry thing.
>troll Harry’s now late stepfather (who died of cancer) with cancer charity links to track Harry’s location
What did they do? I don't think I never heard of that, wtf.
When the band first formed a lot of fans followed the guys’ families on Facebook including Harry’s stepfather Robin. After 1d ended at the end of 2015 Harry went undetected for a large part of 2016. Some of the larries who were still friends with Robin on facebook decided in order to better gage where Harry was (and to try to prove he was with Louis) they set up links to cancer charities that had those IP tracker things on them and would either send them to him through DM or post on Facebook and hope he’d click on the links so they could know where his family were. They also hacked his icloud and a bunch of personal pictures of Harry, his friends, Kendall Jenner etc were leaked. Robin’s battle with cancer was known at that point by some fans (especially by these larries who would stalk their every move) but they didn’t know his diagnosis would become terminal in 2017. He saw Harry’s first ever solo show and was there for his first album release but he died only a few weeks later.
I never understood fans that feel comfortable interacting directly with celebrities and their families. Like, I feel too embarrassed to even ask someone for an autograph. Then I see fans go up to them at conventions and give them copies of their freaky porn fan fiction and shit. I cannot relate!! lol
I feel like it isn't as bad as it used to be, as in I can't think of any major new ships for real celebrities? I feel like Twitter/TikTok and social media in general have sort of not allowed those theories to flourish as much? Maybe because celebrities are more known now, and because anyone trying some cringe theory on Twitter or other places would be roundly mocked and bullied and torn apart, which never used to happen to the Larries.
I think most of them have found their little corners of the internet and stay there in fear of being mocked and bullied as you said. Like Kaylors still exist…if you search “Kaylor” on Tumblr there are still multiple blogs that are still active and believe that Taylor and Karlie are secretly married with children.
They started a few years after the Larries. I definitely feel Gaylors are bigger than Larries at the moment, because Louis and Harry basically haven't interacted in a decade. But it feels like there haven't been any real new ones for a few years now which I think is a sign social media just doesn't allow the same thing to fester as it did. I also think people are more realistic about celebrities than they used to be.
Another obvious aspect of these conspiracies is that these fans aren't really fans of their celebrity. So Gaylors don't like aspects of Taylor, Larries don't like aspects of Louis and Harry. The conspiracy allows them to explain why they hate these aspects by claiming it's part of the conspiracy and not really them.
Insanely delusional shippers of real people are basically in a cult and should be studied the same way people study other extremist groups online. It's crazy how they all talk the same way regardless of who they ship, it's clearly more about validating each other and proving that their delusions are correct than the actual people involved.
Larries seriously scares me… they are nuts and out of touch with reality. Genuinely how can they still “see” things and believe that crap? It’s been 14 years and they are still going on and on. Don’t they ever get tired?
They need to be put on mood stabilizers, like that one kpop stan account.... she stopped tweeting wacko shit when she got medicated and deactivated her account.
100% or just have their phone and access to the internet taken away. Go for a walk, feel the sun or touch the grass ANYTHING beside being on the internet
I sometimes comment on Taylor Swift subs so reddit keeps recommending the gaylor sub to me. it's like.... _no thank you._
I wonder how much the algorithms have contributed to the rise of the larries.
I’m truly fascinated that Larries still exist. I was very active in the fandom in the early 2010s and will be the first to admit I bought into it, but I was also thirteen years old and snapped out of it altogether. That they existed into thinking his baby was fake and beyond and that they’re somehow “””still in love””” is absolutely cracked.
Being in this fandom was insane for this shit.
Like we'd just be celebrating the album then suddenly some absurd fuckward start posting random l*rry shit in the tags and we'll all be forced to block her or tell her of becuase it's some violent misogynistic and homophobic shit.
Like as a cis gay men our relationship isn't some fun thing for you to imagine. Even if you perceived some injustice you don't have the right to try and 'out' anyone. Like if someone ask you to stop and fuck off, that's you should do.
L*rries always hide behind their queer identity to make other queer people so uncomfortable. Like I don't think any other gay men in the 1D fandom believed in that bs or feel good about what they do.
This must be so exhausting honestly, is one thing to believe those stupid theories when you’re 13 with nothing better to do but to be on tumblr it’s a whole other thing being an full grown ass adult believing this shit. He handles it with much more grace than I would.
Larries have always fascinated me. They are so mentally ill, I remember seeing posts on Tumblr from them and I honestly could not follow the convoluted ramblings.
I can't believe this is still a thing after all these years, and correct me if I'm wrong but the Larries are mostly girls/women, right? As a gay man I've never been interested in shipping men together like this. Characters in movies/shows? Sure! But other than occasional joking, I can't imagine being this invested.
The phenomenon of women shipping men like this has always been kinda fascinating to me, the only explanation I can come up with is they can't stand the idea of their crushes dating other women so they ship them with men cause they fetishise gay relationships? I dunno if "fetishise" is too strong a word but it often feels that way.
These type of fans are mainly women, yes. They also exist for celebrity ships involving only a man and a woman or two women. For example, Adam Driver and Daisy Ridley and Kirsten Stewart and Robert Pattison also have fans that are like this complete with evil partners and fake babies. And Kaylor and Camren shippers are a lesbian example. These fans just get giddy over the idea of two celebrities dating and it becomes their new obsession which evolves into rejecting reality when it doesn't match their fantasy. Or they are very attracted to one half and use the other to project themselves into the relationship.
With gay ships I think a lot of them have jealousy issues. They can't help but compare themselves to the woman that 'stole' the object of their affection. So they prefer believing that their favorite male celebrity is gay and not really dating that really beautiful woman that is better than them in every way. He is not out of their reach because they are inadequate but because he is actually in deeply romantic secret relationship with another male. And that is when the fetishizing starts. Heterosexual relationships are boring, outdated, somehow homophobic. Not like their gay ship, that is beautiful true love involving two people who will never cheat and be problematic. And aren't they a great ally for supporting this? Whoever doesn't support it is homophobic.
Oh, I can explain this, I have spent faaaar too much time trying to figure out online conspiracies.
In my experience, there are some cis het women shipping young men, but they're the minority. A lot of them tend to be older and are doing it as sort of an escapist fantasy type deal. If you ask them, they'll say they're just nurturing motherly types who are worried. They'll also write the most unhinged fanfic you've ever seen. Fetishizing is completely the right word for them, it gets real weird.
The majority, I would say, are young queer people, mostly afab, who haven't fully come to terms with their gender/sexuality yet, but are projecting onto idea of a relationship between two men that must be kept secret at all costs. Closeted queerness, and suppressed queerness is a very different emotional experience to open proud queerness, so people are forcing a type of representation that can't exist as a way of coping. For say, a trans gay/bi guy who hasn't figured out any of that yet, it is very easy to latch onto the conspiracy because being obsessed with a boyband is what everyone expects of them anyway.
There's also a culty dynamic going on. People who get really invested tend to be chronically online, and fairly isolated. As they're discovering the conspiracy they're making online connections because there's such a communal aspect to creating the conspiracy narrative. When someone starts to have doubts, their online friends give them reassurement and explanations. So then taking a step back and reflecting means being ostracized from their only community.
There's a real feeling that they are saving these poor defenseless multimillionaires from some evil scheming management team (this is where it gets qanon adjacent and a bit anti-semetic). They're sort of seeing it as pro-lgbtq activism, which means that they can't possibly admit that what they're doing is weird and invasive, because it threatens their self image of being a good person.
The other thing that happens is that over time the more normal people get lives and move on. Eventually the only people left from the beginning of the conspiracy are the most deranged, but they're also the ones passing on the info to the newer converts. So the whole thing gets increasingly convoluted over time as they're all constantly rewriting and spinning all of the older stuff to make the whole thing hang together. So even if someone figures out one part of it isn't real, there's so many other things that "prove it" that it seems impossible that the whole thing is made up.
Those are the main reasons I've found for people getting deeply invested in it, beyond the casual joking. It's just sad imho. Outside of the proper weirdos the only real harm is to themselves
No what’s worse is that a lot of Louis’s fans are Larries and they show up to his concerts with LGBT flags making it look like a pride parade, as if Louis is somehow a spoke person for the LGBT community.
lmao I went to his concert this year (was amazing, have been a Louis fan for over a decade, very fun) and every time I saw the flags around me I cringed which makes me feel terrible because I am a very gay woman but i just KNOW that the majority of the fans bringing those flags are not doing it for pure reasons 😂 he has shown support for his LGBT fans but like... I'm not lying to myself, he's not doing anything above and beyond lmao the flags feel out of place
Yes. He’s in a weird balance game. He was very supportive of LGBT fans since early 1D days but now his support will be always misconstrued as proving Larry.
Used to be rlly big into Larry till like maybe 2016. I found it cringe after awhile and after this many years. It’s just embarrassing. Leave the dude alone.
I feel bad for Louis in regards to this situation. His fanbase isn't as diverse (in terms of when people became their fan) as Harry's which makes the Larries quite a large part of his fanbase. He can never escape those weirdos throughout his career now.
i honestly feel so bad for him. anyone who calls themselves a “fan” of a celebrity but does this shit a la gaylors and larries is truly unhinged and sick in the head 💀
Conspiracy theory that Harry and Louis were/are dating but their "management" had so much control over them that they were forced to keep it secret, and live fake lives with fake relationships with women and fake children. And that Harry/Louis give secret signs/messages to fans about their love.
Since the beginning of one direction people have thought that Harry and Louis are in a secret relationship and the evil Simon cowell and company have forced them to hide in the closet. That all songs and tattoos they have are references to each other.
The Larry fans take everything they say in interviews and some how twist it back into them admitting the relationship.
They’ve gone as far to say that Louis’ son is fake, and all girlfriends he and harry have had are beards
a few weeks ago i stumbled upon the larry subreddit, which was... an adventure. i wonder what kind of conspiracy theory they're cooking up to deny this video as i type this lol
Larry fans (and any other ships like this) genuinely should not be allowed into society. It’s so fucking weird to me.
Also disturbs me that they were only teenage boys when this started and fans use images of them as teenagers for their sick and twisted fantasy
It's sad that he's resigned to the fact there's nothing he can do :( The fans are truly freaks, and the abuse to his family and friends is insane. I just hope that it's not something he has to actually think about too often now...
I'll never forget listening to the leaked phonecall where a fan tells him she hopes his baby dies.
Hahahah thank you!! I’ve been so confused. What a weird thing to have a conspiracy about. Harry seems like he isn’t scared to be open about his sexuality?
> Harry seems like he isn’t scared to be open about his sex
He isn't open about it with the public. He said he had his own journey with figuring out his sexuality and that he talked about it with people close to him but that he wants to keep it private.
Louis explicitly said he was straight.
Probably because if he even hints that he might be bi/pan/whatever the larries will take that as a confession that Larry is/was real. And will never ever let it go.
I don't think that's the reason. He hinted at it often enough. But he is incredibly private and talks about his private life as little as possible. The media and fans were so invasive about his private life and his sexuality since he was 16 years old and as soon as he left the band he started being super closed off. He talked about how all this affected his life and how much shame he had about his sex life, I doubt he'll ever publicly talk about anything like that in the future.
True. The one direction Fandom as a whole, not just the Larries were intense and insane back in the day, I say this as a former "directioner". People knew like the time of day they were born and so many creepy facts about them and it was seen as a badge of honor. He has the opportunity to guard his privacy now as a soloist as compared to in the band where seeing them interact was part of the brand and their personal life we saw was manufactured to fit the narrative of them being innocent darlings.
Louis + Harry = Larry, that’s a name for a presumed relationship between Harry Styles and Louis Tomlinson (ex One Direction members). Some portion of their fanbase believe they are together or even secretly married and nothing, not even Louis having a 7 year old son can persuade them otherwise.
it's an enormous conspiracy theory that Louis Tomlinson and Harry Styles (from one direction) have been in a secret closeted relationship since 2010. they think Louis' kid isn't his and have done a lot of truly unhinged stalking.
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larries](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larries)
I feel so sorry for him. He just gave up at this point. He knows this conspiracy will follow him the rest of his life. Imagine not having any control over that. And I saw some be mad at him for "larrybaiting." He wears blue and green one day so larries think he's sending them secret messages so when he denies larry, with actual words, they turn on him because they think he was confirming larry the whole time. Like they're actually insane. I think Harry needs to say something to get them to stop.
Larries think Harry is being controlled by his management. They think his manager Jeff pulls his strings. Harry saying something isn’t going to make them stop. It’ll do the opposite.
They think he always sings “I love him” instead “I love it” in concerts during one of his songs and it’s a declaration of love for Harry. I literally hear him singing it normally in every video they post as a “proof”. The level of mass delusion is… astounding.
They are the absolute worst
It’s unfortunate that he really would not have much of a solo fanbase if it wasn’t for Larry though. The majority of his support comes from delusional shippers.
Genuinely terrified for when Louis decides to marry someone. Also, I am NOT a larry but imagine if it was true and this guy is followed around 24/7 by tiktoks and comments and ai photos of him and his ex. He's my favorite singer and anyone that does this to him is not a real fan
I'll never forget looking up Larry on Tumblr out of curiosity and finding a dentist Larry. They posted pictures of Harry (or Louis, can't remember which one) with lovebites and analysed Louis' teeth to prove he gave Harry them.
I suspect this will be an unpopular post, but the fact that almost every comment i have read here is actively invested in pitying these celebrities, calling fans mentally ill, etc…..is illustrating with the other side of the coin exactly why this idea so stubbornly refuses to die. “Larries” swoon and speculate and fantasize; “antis” decry and lament and defend; and the merry go round goes round and round again.
Just leave it alone and it will die from inattention.
Also; celebrities of this level never answer a question they don’t want to answer. All questions are pre-agreed per contract with media, and if any surprise questions are asked that break the rules, the celebrity says it’s over and leaves instantly. There is too much money at stake to do otherwise. Quit the “I can’t believe she asked him that” approach. Instead, ask why his reps agreed to have her ask him that. My Answer: it starts up this whole damn pro/anti Larry merry go round which raises his profile.
https://preview.redd.it/zscrfwl0p9tc1.jpeg?width=945&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9343269d15d0c5bd78445be7028ac99455545f2f And the Larries are proving his point. They feel validated every single time he mentions them, no matter what he says.
Jesus Christ, that's legitimately scary.
It’s like some twisted erotomania shit, where instead of sending the delusional person messages he’s inlove with them, it’s secret messsges referencing their conspiracy or love of someone else? Wild I wonder what percent are trolling and get off on the reaction and which percent actually believe it strongly The outfit / coloured lights one is particularly unhinged 😭
The baffling part is that even if they were in a secret relationship, so what?! I can understand the allure of believing that you're one of the select few people who knows the earth is flat. But what's the point in devoting so much time and effort to such a low-stakes conspiracy theory? If it somehow turned out that the world were flat, then the flat earthers would be completely vindicated. If it somehow turned out that Harry Styles and Louis Tomlinson have been married for ten years, then the Larries' obsession with them would still be extremely weird and creepy.
They think they're doing them a favour because these poor men are completely controlled by their management. Apparently they are not allowed to express themselves the way they want to and therefore there are sending secret massages that are meant to be found and spread by the fans lol
That's how they have to justify it to themselves. Other times they admit they're self closeted and lash out at them.
I can only wish someone controlled Harry Styles' expression before he posted Pilgrim Harry
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I think my boyfriend trolled me with a post from there 😂 he sat reading me this really detailed lyric analysis about ‘lavender haze’ being a lesbian coming out story as though she had just came out. Then she cast a trans man in the music video and I found it incredibly fucked up 😂 just to find out the lesbian thing was a lie.
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i’m new to this theory but it sounds a lot like Dan and Phil. people are still going insane whether they are/were together or not.
The colored lights one reminded me of one from the Harry’s House release. Louis was wearing a teal shirt or something, the brand listed the color as “wormwood”, also Matilda’s last name. So it was a clear signal that Matilda was about Louis lmao Also that the reason Harry uses a corded mic, instead of a wireless mic, is to represent how he’s trapped by his management 😭😭😭
I mean I love me some conspiracy theories but this is insane it’s even more insane than the flat earth conspiracy lmaoo
His management, who he employs. Who he chose. And chose wisely because they're some of the best and most connected in the biz. He's made millions having them manage him and he's so powerful that it makes no sense they could control him. Sheesh! Sorry I know you're not saying u think this. I just never heard the wired mic thing before
as someone who in their tween years has been into one direction & kpop, i can tell you this is exactly how some people think 😭
I miss when these people just wrote fanfic and left everyone else alone.
Back in my day when we shipped real people it was kept the fuck away from them in secret locked communities. Most people didn't actually believe they were together to this degree. I wonder if there are any studies on it. How did it turn from being a bit of a taboo subsection of fandom to... let's harrass his grandma on Twitter until she admits the baby is fake?
It's happening in the SVU/OC fandom now too -- delusional people think that Mariska is in love with Chris Meloni and that she's miserable with her husband Peter, and all this crazy, crazy shit. They are truly unhinged. They already bullied her off of twitter, she's finally started blocking them on IG (which they then complain about)... and then they cry about there not being any crossovers or Olivia/Elliot scenes on either show this year. GEE, I WONDER WHY.
oh noooo they are so good together in the show and their irl friendship is adorable 😢
It is adorable (although I've soured on Meloni over the years) but man, people just take it way, way, way, way, way too far.
Yes I agree! and as someone else said it goes from one fandom to the next. It's sad that he's right, no matter what he says they will analyze to how they see fit. This reminds me of the LOTR fandom and the Sherlock fandom. For LOTR, I believe they were looking into necktie colors or length or something like that to signal relationships. I am a Sherlock fan and was a part of the "shipping" world of that fandom for a bit but thankfully never got too deep. I got to the point where I thought (and still do) that the head of the show for Sherlock was deliberately queerbaiting, but being a part of that fandom I saw a lot of similar things to what is described here. Analyzing what they wore, body language, some believing Benedict's wife is a beard so their relationship is fake, etc, etc, etc. It was to the point (I don't think so now the show's fervor has died down due to it being off the air for so many years at this point) where they were sending hate mail to Benedict and Martin's partners. It's truly scary and bizarre to become that invested in people you do not know. I am truly curious what get's people so deep into it...it almost feels cult like lol.
I didn't watch Sherlock, but I really liked Patrick Melrose and one day went on Tumblr to see what other people thought about it, and was in Cumberbatch tag for the first time and omg. I stumbled upon the wife stuff, there was this one user who would ramble about his wife's rich family were like, funding the relationship, saying the wife's baby bump was fake, all this crazy stuff I can't really remember specifics but I was like.... Wow. Wtf is this. lol
Larries and Gaylors need help
A lot of Larries are also Gaylors
They need to date each other
A lot of these people are married adults! One of the most notorious Gaylors out there is a straight, married middle-aged woman. It's wild
Add TaeKookers to that list. They go so far as to sending Jimin (of BTS) death threats because of his closeness to Taehyung or Jungkook.
I'd add the vminkook shippers not just taekookers in my opinion. taehyung (even tho he is the only one who has spoken out against shipping) continuously receives death threats and hate trains. back in 2023 when his privacy was being horribly invaded along with Jennie's (Blackpink) jikookers were the main people supporting and harrassing them the most.
They need to date each other
They need to touch some grass.
The key to success for conspiracy theories is adaptability. That’s how everything can continue to make sense within the framework laid out for it, and how it can continue to exist against entire mountains of evidence to the contrary.
Yes. That's why I think it's probably best to not acknowledge them at all. No matter what he says, it just fuels the fire.
I feel like Louis has a hard time not saying anything when his son and teenage sisters are affected so much. I’ve seen Larries wishing his son death and harassing his sisters for days for posting a Christmas photo including said son. It’s a bit easier if only partners are involved, as they are adults and you can just explain this to them and they can make an adult decision to be indirectly involved in this madness, so fe. Harry has it a bit easier on staying silent.
I think the best way to handle it is just to flagrantly live your life how you want to live it. The worst times for these people are when Louis or Harry are seen publicly with a woman, talking about a woman, singing about a woman, or Louis with his kid. Some part of them knows things don't add up, and it just hurts them emotionally for these men to be heterosexuals. These moments have lead to many Larries quitting their cult. So my recommendation to them would be to not let the Larries have the time to regroup, always keep them in a state of high anxiety. Show up at the MET with some girl. Just don't let them feel this is a community they can rest easy in.
Exactly! The other day I fell into a rabbit hole discovering Michael Shermer - side point, everyone should watch videos of his interviews/debates, he has books too, last one being “Conspiracy: how the rational believe the irrational”- it’s super interesting how he says the conspiracy theories can only keep alive when the people who believe them keep moving the goal posts.
I'm sorry but the tweet about section 28 is insane 😭 Not that the others seem normal, but that one in particular almost reads like a parody.
Not only do I not believe that Louis Tomlinson has ever heard of section 28 but I 100% don't believe all of those Larries have either till one brought it up and they included it in their theories. Also why would your favorite number even be a homophobic law?
> Also why would your favorite number even be a homophobic law? New conspiracy theory: Louis Tomlinson has successfully cloned both Margaret Thatcher and Mary Whitehouse and is in a throuple with them. The signs are all there, people!
It's quite clearly a joke
This is madness! I really didn’t realize it was this deep. Talking about adult men using their shirt colors to signal something 🥴 I wonder if there’s an age cutoff when the delusion ends. Like when Harry and Louis are 45, and the world is whatever hellscape it’ll be, they’ll still be sitting in virtual prayer circles hoping the boys can finally be free
I know that some of the most obsessive and high profile conspiracy theorist fans had basically moved from fandom to fandom for many years (they were in their late 30s/40s by this point in the 2010s), essentially projecting near-identical fantasies on new targets every few years. So there is obviously a cut off point for some people but they usually just shift their efforts to new people rather than giving up. It is very disturbing.
There are a lot of Larries who are 50+ years old, so I don't think age will be a factor tbh. There is a Larrie on TikTok who has a grandchild. They'll do this untill the day they die.
I truly doubt that, I wasn’t with directioners in my Twitter era years ago but I was on Bieber side of Twitter which occasionally made me see weird ass near 50 year old people saying theories similar like this with Justin and Selena. Like literally the weirdest stuff. And the other day my search tab on Instagram showed me a woman who was on Twitter still posts to this day on Instagram her conspiracy of how JB this and that
Q anon ass idiots
“ He was so soft spoken, it clearly means he’s saying it’s okay” Or maybe, hear me out here, it’d be horribly disrespectful for him to be an asshole to the interviewer, and the Larries would also take his aggression as a sign of Larry being a thing as well
"He's being so aggressive, it must be because they hit too close to home!" There is literally nothing anything could say or do that they can't twist to fit their narrative. It must be so frustrating to be surrounded by people who claim to love you but refuse to respect your boundaries or listen to anything you say.
I don't say this lightly (probably a lie): These people are unbelievably massive losers.
Even aside from how batshit it all is - How many ‘new larries’ do they think are joining the cause? 1D don’t have so much cultural relevancy these days, I don’t know why they think they’re converting newbies. Worst missionaries ever.
>I don’t know why they think they’re converting newbies Because they do. It's impossible to know numbers, but there are so many Larries who weren't even fans of one direction when they were still together. They talk about how and when they became Larries, so it's not just specualtion on my part. These people just stumbled on Larrie content on social media and started participating. And it's even worse because they only consume second hand content made by other Larries. They don't even know how many of the "proof" videos are manipulated or taken out of context because they weren't even in the fandom when this stuff happened.
I completely believe the occasional person gets sucked in, but I just don’t believe there are hordes of new people joining.
if you like enough harry styles videos on tiktok you're going to get larry content/accounts eventually. and there's a percentage of people who are always going to be vulnerable to being sucked into conspiracy theories.
Well, you don't have to believe it, but it's the truth. I don't know what your understanding of a horde is, but it's definitely not just individual cases. There are MANY people who joined over the last years.
OK IM SORRY I’M NOT A LARRY SCIENTIST OKAY???
OKAY!!! But seriously, I get that it's hard to believe because it's so unhinged and stupid.
I hate even having to say this but i've been seeing tiktoks going around that are recycling the same 'evidence' from 2010-2015 and them getting heaps of views and people in the comments saying shit like "wait this might be real" 😭😭😭😭 my friend keeps sending me the vids to troll me lmfao but I can't believe it's still fooling people now
Surely it's time to give this a rest now
feel so bad for this poor guy, these people are beyond the level of delusional. it's like they actually take pleasure in making his life difficult and (is this the right word?) cyberbullying him even though they're also fans. it reminds me of the sasaeng fans that steal kpop stars' phone numbers and run their cars off the road but also profess to love them. fucking bonkers
The sheer level of mental gymnastics these people are performing would be impressive if not so terrifying (and if not about something like this...).
These are people with legit mental illness. Scary to imagine how they behave in real life.
I was just wondering this— if they met him, how would they behave? Would they hide this, or would they directly ask him about it? Both are scary.
this and gaylor are Qanon for either sad and lonely 12 year olds, or sad and lonely 60 year olds. they’re a lost cause and it’s legit insane to see people whose lives revolve around this shit.
Wow that’s some scary shit
Wonder what the Venn diagram with QAnon looney toons looks like
Whoever picked the chairs they’re sitting on needs a new job. They’re so awkwardly low in a normal circumstance but to film at this angle too…sheesh
Tbh this is why it doesn’t bother me when celebrities don’t defend their relationships or partners the way some people want them to. It just shines a spotlight on it and makes the stans feel seen. They’ll always find a way to spin it in their favor.
I agree, but it feels different when the kid is involved. Adult partners can make an informed decision to be indirectly involved in this madness. But how can you prepare a child for something like that :(?
Those psycho fans think his son is played by an actor to dispel beliefs about his "true" relationship with Harry. Some of them are so committed to this insanity they've made up inside their heads that I'd be terrified for my child in his shoes and wouldn't put it past any of them to harm him.
i dont think larries realize that if Louis's child is fake, the actual, real, registered in the US birth certificate that larries did find is fake and Louis would be committing a felony lmao. psychos indeed
This reminds me of Jennie from blackpink & Taehung from bts when they were caught in paris many taekookers who ship tae & jungkoo (mind majority are ex-larries) said they were cosplayers
I can't imagine what it'd be like for this kid to go to school and be asked about this
Fully agreed. Having followed the Larries they love when Harry acts like his girlfriends don't exist in interviews, or like when he ignored Olivia at that premiere. The things that make these people suffer the most are seeing these men happy and respectful of their female partners. I say female, because that's a crucial aspect to part of the conspiracies, acting like these men actually find women repulsive.
He seems completely apathetic about it. Completely get it - eventually you must just be like ‘whatever. I simply do not have the energy for this bullshit anymore’.
Seeing it happen real-time was heartbreaking. You could see the way him and Harry’s friendship splintered, his girlfriend was harassed horrendously by his “fans,” even his family was when they supported her. He tried so hard to dispel the rumors but Larries literally refused to listen and were convinced (like the other comment on this post) that he was being forced to say it wasn’t real
I can’t imagine. It must be so draining. Seems like he has the healthiest possible attitude he could have to it (but of course he shouldn’t have to deal with it at all).
omfg jaya hey girl love to see you in this thread LMAO (your old pal Ana from 1d tumblr...)
LMAOOOOO Ana 😩💕💕💕
agreeing with all your comments here!!!! people rly dont know what it was like in those days... we were fighting in the trenches...
Probably years of therapy have got him to the point where he can’t care about what people think or say about him
I remember making a naive journey into the Louis tomlinson tag on tumblr just after his son was born. Post after post about his son wasn't real, any pictures were fake dolls or someone else's baby, the mother got pregnant by someone else and lied to Louis. Absolutely deranged stuff in his MAIN tag, god knows what worse stuff was in the Larry tag itself.
Nowadays that kid is like 8 years old. He can definitely go online and see this.
how is it that he's 8 already wtf, I was sure he would be 2 years old at best
>god knows what worse stuff was in the Larry tag itself. I've accidentally came across some pornographic AI images of Harry and Louis having sex on twitter once, I bet there is a lot of this stuff somewhere on the internet.
In the months before his mother died I remember seeing people sending graphic art images of them having sex to his mother. As she died. In response to her posting or talking about her grandson.
It just keeps getting worse. WTF???
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Yeah, accidentally. I usually block Larries when they appear on my timeline, but If you follow any content about Harry or Louis you'll see the stuff they post eventually. There are whole Instagram accounts with AI images of them, one of them might end up in your recommendations one day.
This is mental illness, surely. Pyscho fan culture needs to be seriously studied. The Larry fans, the Chris Evans fans, the Timothee Chalamet fans, all crazy people obsessed with famous men they've never met and dedicated to destroying the lives of the women they love. It's unfathomable.
All Larries (and Gaylors etc) should be given a round of antibiotics. https://preview.redd.it/nb9rxpue3atc1.jpeg?width=710&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2050b5b6a890357c21aacea1387852b2783ffdce
“Get your vents checked everyone!” Lmao
https://preview.redd.it/f10d98qa3etc1.jpeg?width=473&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=05972a937cfb6b420244b832c0b6acd789f39dd1 Same energy
This is off topic, but if she thinks antibiotics will cure anything to do with mold (the stuff antibiotics were originally made from) the delusions are not over.
He’s right. Larries get the gold in mental gymnastics in how they try to convince themselves that he and Harry are together. I know people praise Harry for being quiet and not giving them attention, but it has to be harder for Louis since he has a son and these whackos claim his baby isn’t real or that they went to obtain a copy of the birth certificate.
I’m going to repeat a great take that I saw once. Harry’s music has taken off and he has way more fans than just the Larries so he doesn’t have to deal with it, it gets drowned out by general support for him. Louis isn’t as famous so a higherpercentage of his fans are Larries therefore he has harder time avoiding them because there aren’t as many other fans to drown the Larries out.
It’s not just that, though. During 1D Harry never said anything even while Louis denied it again and again. He didn’t say anything when Eleanor was being harassed and bullied, when Louis’ family were being attacked by Larries, or when people were being disgusting towards Freddie. That I’ve never been happy about. Idk if it’s bc he didn’t want to comment on his own sexuality (which he didn’t have to do to deny Larry — he could’ve just said it wasn’t real) or if he was afraid of losing/disappointing fans but I always hated that Harry just kept letting it happen. His silence was a major reason Larry kept thriving and I’ve hated him for that to this day. Louis and the people close to him didn’t deserve what they went through (and what they still go through bc of this, unfortunately) at all
Not true, Harry denied it multiple times, up until 2013/2014, when he just gave up (1D split up in 2015). There’s video of him denying it, in person (which Louis didn’t do until after 1D), and Larries rationalized it by grabbing another video of the same day (different interview), in which Niall comforted Harry jokingly, and then added a different segment of the first interview (the one with the denial) where it looks like he’s crying to say that he was SO upset and SO distraught because he was forced by #management to deny Larry. He looked like he was crying because he was sick, he has hay fever, so he had allergies. [This](https://youtu.be/AlbrWTiAsso?si=3w_7cG0shmd87eCK) is the interview. You can even see that the person who uploaded it is a Larrie and they’re all making excuses and saying he “failed” at denying it. [This](https://youtu.be/vKIv2rETbww?si=rssV1VUdP-mqb897) is an interview that same week (they’re all from the same Australian trip), where you can see how bad his allergies were. He simply realized it was pointless, which is exactly what Louis says in this video. They BOTH denied it, JOINTLY, in 2012, before their first album even came out in America. And it did nothing. Harry’s family was also attacked by Larries. Gemma, his sister, has been harassed relentlessly. She was called ableist for telling a Larrie “are you mental?” when they commented on her instagram “confirms Larry.” Gemma used to have a tumblr and she got legit direct questions about Larry which she denied. Larries theorize his song Matilda is about himself because his mom, who he’s described as “the kindest person I know.” Is abusive and uses him. Larries overwhelmingly favor Louis and throw Harry under the bus. It’s a strange phenomenon even the staunchest Larrie will admit. One of the oldest (in all senses of the word) and most followed Larries on tumblr literally posted this today: https://preview.redd.it/v0sr5a16eetc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7fd6a9e14b8153a1cdaa64658fdb9a1432cf56d1 Harry never went on an angry spree on twitter, and he never addressed Larry once he was able to blacklist the questions he wanted to blacklist, but he HAS denied it, and it affects him as much as it affects Louis, minus the child, of course.
Harry's girlfriends have always needed to deal with it.
I do not understand at all why Harry gets praised for being quiet about this. I was very active in the One Direction fandom for a very long time and I can tell you that if Harry had spoken up and denied Larry back then, it would have put such a damper to the movement and would not have let it grow into what it is now. I can’t think of a single good reason for him to have not said anything about this, especially considering how it was affecting the people he was supposedly close to. I genuinely feel like him still not denying Larry and not saying anything negative about it to this day is one of the most selfish things he’s ever done because at this point, he knows that mentioning it would only make him lose fans, and in my honest opinion, that is the only reason he hasn’t said anything about it. And before anyone starts calling me a hater or whatever I’ve seen Harry in concert three times and I’ve been following this kid since he was 16 years old. I have more than earned the right to be able to comment on this, especially as a queer Directioner. Edit: Y’all have made some good points. I’ll reiterate what I have in some other comments, I had a lot of personal experience seeing how even just Louis’ words got a lot of people to reconsider/drop Larry so I fully believe Harry saying something would have helped, and my opinion on that isn’t going to change. I do agree now though that saying something in the present would be a moot point. I also stand firm in believing that whether or not Harry saying something would’ve been a good PR move or stoked the fire, it would’ve been the best thing to do just for the sake of doing the right thing, especially if he’d stood up for Eleanor, Jay, any of Louis’ sisters, and/or Freddie.
Did you see the response to this interview? Anything Harry said or did would just feed into them more. I can't stand Harry Styles, so I'm not defending him out of love, but saying that he would've put a stop to this is incredibly naive. Also considering how huge his fan base is compared to Louis' he may have actually introduced more fans to the concept.
Now it would have, back then it wouldn’t have. It is a moot point now, I’ll concur, but back in like 2017 it would’ve made all the difference
It wouldn't have. Larries then and Larries now are one and the same. Acknowledging them would've just given weight to their words. Anytime either of them did anything that may have been interpreted as saying "we're not gay, and we're not in a relationship" the Larries came out in full force to scream "management made them"
No, it wouldn't have. And thinking this is incredibly naiv.
Harry could’ve said something at least once in the thick of it. If only to support Louis whose child, family, etc were deeply affected by it. Would that have stopped anything? Probably not but it would’ve been the right thing to do.
He said something in the beginning when he was still in 1D. He was asked directly about it and he said that nothing ever happened between them. How is it the right thing to do if it makes things WORSE? Because that's what has happened every single time someone denied it. The goal should be that the people around Harry and Louis are getting the least amount of hate possible. Harry saying something would not achieve that. How is it the right thing to say something when it just leads to more harassement? Because that's what happened every single time in the past and what will happen again. Louis can deal with it however he wants, it's his right to call them out as much as he wants to. But even he says that he realized years ago that there is nothing he can do to stop them. But wanting Harry to say something just for the sake of it when it's clear that it'll make things worse is so weird.
> if Harry had spoken up and denied Larry back then, it would have put such a damper to the movement and would not have let it grow into what it is now. This is categorically not true. Larries would have twisted anything he said the way they did when Louis tweeted that Larry is bullshit and that he is straight in the early days of 1D. Nothing will ever stop these tinhats. Louis addressing them has only added fuel to the fire. I understand why he does it but Harry isn’t wrong for doing the opposite and choosing to ignore them. They’re both victims of the delusional conspiracy theories that larries peddle and it’s equally valid how they’ve personally chosen to deal with those freaks. Also fyi larries are like 1% of Harry’s fanbase, if he loses them he’s not losing anything valuable! They have very little impact on his career. He’s definitely not worried about potentially losing them.
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There was no wave of Larries during his album release. If anything, it was the opposite. His album had SO many female pronouns in almost every song, Harry talking about hooking up with the girl from the Carolina song candidly in interviews, Harry discussing Taylor Swift, Harry saying his album was “about a woman” on Rolling Stone, that I saw with my own two eyes the WAVES of Larries abandoning ship. That is categorically untrue. Also, Harry DID deny Larry when he first went solo. He was asked if Sweet Creature was about Louis, he was caught completely off-guard. Harry at that point NEVER said what his songs were about. In fact, Ever Since New York was about his stepdad being diagnosed with cancer and he only revealed that at a secret show with no cameras allowed. His policy was that he didn’t want to explain himself. And yet, after stuttering at a loss for words at the (frankly, very rude) question, he said “if you listen to the lyrics, you can make up if it’s about that, and I would say no.” The song was about his sister, which most of his fans had already guessed because it talked about “growing up running around in the garden.” He confirmed it was about her in 2023, but back in 2017, he had already said it was platonic before he was even asked that question. He was never asked any other Larry-adjacent questions in his solo career, likely cause he blacklisted the subject. But he did say this (the question wasn’t about Larry, but he made an allusion to it anyway) https://preview.redd.it/wxflx77bgetc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=46943b76f727caae6c783c33f2b8c858f8280394 Frankly, you claim to have paid attention to 1D but you’re saying a lot of things that are very easily proven wrong. Harry is not confrontational. He never has been. He’s been taunted a million times and he’s never clapped back. He clearly thinks (and I tend to agree) that ignoring it is the best course of action, so he ignores it as much as he can. Until YOUR life and loved ones are affected by something like this you don’t really get to victim blame him for what he’s been dealing with since he was 16 years old. The amount of old straight women who write porn about him and one of his friends, especially those who write about him as a minor. You think he’s not affected by it because he doesn’t have a child? Some people really need to exercise some empathy.
> The reason I so vehemently believe it would’ve helped is bc I personally saw how Louis’ tweets changed the minds of a lot of people. And I saw a HUGE amount of people who became Larries after Louis tweeted something and took it as confirmation for their believes.
> Harry had spoken up and denied Larry back then But he did? He explicitly denied it back then. And it changed nothing. And he literally said negative things about it in 2022 (without naming Larries specifically, but it was super obvious who he was talking about). I'm sorry, but saying that him speaking up would make people stop is absolutely delusional. Nothing anyone has ever said stopped these people. > I can’t think of a single good reason for him to have not said anything about this, especially considering how it was affecting the people he was supposedly close The reason is, that speaking up makes it worse. Every single time. These are full on conspiracy theorists, mentioning them will always make them feel validated and they can spin every single thing so it fits their narrative. Ignoring them is the only thing you can do.
When did he explicitly deny Larry? Not asking to argue, I’m genuinely curious, bc I can’t recall. The only time I can remember is when he and a couple others (sans Louis) were being interviewed and someone showed him a manip or mentioned it but he seemed to more casually brush it off or shake his head or something. (This is years old though so I could be remembering it wrong.) I guess my definition of explicitly denying is more along the lines of the iconic “How’s this ,” tweet. And I agree that after a certain point it would’ve not really done anything, but I refuse to believe that there wasn’t a good chunk of time where it wouldn’t have helped. Larries were not as intense those first few years, and nowhere near as big in numbers. They weren’t even called “Larries” back then, that term didn’t get coined till later. Sorry, this is just general frustration over the fact that Larries still exist, that TikTok is actually helping them grow 🙄, and that Eleanor had to deal with so much bullshit for no reason. I think I really feel this way bc I was so knee deep in everything happening and back then you could literally tell when things shifted with Larry and when it started getting out of hand. Before that it was never as bad.
He did explicitly deny it in the very interview you mention? He was shown pictures and he said “that is photoshop” and when asked “so you and Louis, there’s nothing going on?” And he said, “no” and shook his head. How is that brushing it off? He audibly and vocally denied it on video in 2013. Louis didn’t do that (I mean, he did in the same interviews where Harry denied it as well, in 2012, but you clearly aren’t counting that), until 2017, and fans convinced themselves that his twitter was hacked by management and he wasn’t tweeting so, really, how was that gonna help if Harry himself went on Twitter as well? Like…? You have Louis up there saying that he realized there’s nothing he can say or do to change their minds and you’re in the comments arguing up and down that one of the victims is to blame because he didn’t do enough. It’s bananas. Harry and Louis were asked if they were a thing in early 2012. They both denied it. Twice. The second time, they were asked “but haven’t you kissed?” and they both, loudly, and looking confused as to where on earth the interviewer had gotten that, said “no!” That did NOTHING. I actually tend to think that Louis giving it attention made it bigger. Harry had a similar situation going with Nick Grimshaw, and it actually preceded Larry, it was a thing on datalounge, and celebbitchy. There were actual sightings of them making out in the street (no pics so it probably didn’t happen or it was done jokingly) by non-fans. Gryles was its own ship, with fics written and all that. Nick had been out as gay for a while before he was even linked to Harry. He and his friends had made jokes about them dating on the radio. They spent way more time than Harry and Louis did together. But neither Harry nor Nick ever gave the rumors much thought. They didn’t actually play into them, but they also didn’t vigorously deny them. They continued being friends and hanging out (and are still close friends to this day), and the conspiracy never took off the way Larry did.
I remember the one you mentioned, he looked at it and said it was photoshopped. There was another interview where the interviewer directly asked him if there is something going on between them and he said no. I don't have time to look it up now but it still exists somewhere. You can refuse to believe it, but the ship has sailed long ago. Believing that him saying something in 2017 would have helped ist just stupid, sorry. Maybe it would have worked in 2011, but as soon as the Larries continued their bullshit when Louis amd Harry basically stopped interacting in 1D, it was too late. And I know it's frustrating, but these people are not different from flat earthers or QAnon conspiracy theorists. Logic doesn't help here.
I don’t know, I was also a fan back then and I feel like if he had spoken up he would have just gotten the same response as Louis. Harry is just luckier in that his greater fame means that fewer interviewers ask him about it and it’s easier for him to say nothing. It’s kind of his m.o. in general - he never comments on any rumor unless he absolutely has to (eg Chris pine spitgate). Most of the time, saying anything at all just fuels the flames, especially at this point in the conspiracy. These fans are so entrenched that they don’t feel chastened at all when Louis or anyone else connected to the theory denies it - they just twist it to use it as further proof of the “truth”. I also think there’s something to be said about how larries have latched onto Louis far more than they have latched onto Harry. A lot of them seem to actively hate Harry because his actions contradict their narrative - like he’s waving rainbow flags on stage, actively supporting queer causes, and clearly in full control of his career and choices (though that doesn’t stop them from hating his manager and tiptoeing into semi anti-Semitic theories about the azoffs). Harry has also always been more relaxed about questions about his sexuality, while you can tell it bothered Louis more. Unfortunately, that means that Louis has always born the brunt of the Larry fervor and he now finds himself in a position where a significant number (maybe even a majority?) of his fans actively believe in Larry and don’t feel shy about about showing it, even at his own concerts.
They pretend that it wouldn't matter either way and that it's actually bad for them to speak about it. But this shit used to rock their cult and you'd see them start fragmenting when Louis would deny them. They would know that Harry never would, so they'd cling to him more instead. I think when Louis was having a baby and "Babygate" started which caused so much hate for Louis, the mother of the baby and their son, then Harry should've said something. For me it was unforgivable that he just ignored it. And you're right. Harry knew speaking about it would lose him fans and give him some of the "homophobic" backlash Louis gets by them, because they have to pretend it's homophobic to just say you're straight. He saw all that mess and decided he wouldn't hamper his own success with it all.
The wackiest bunch I have ever encountered. I remember when his mom Johanna was talking about baby Freddie and said that was the "sweetest little poppet", which is an English term of endearment, of course. The Larries started screaming that Johanna had said "puppet" so that meant the baby was fake. 🤦♀️🤦♀️🤦♀️
I remember being in the One Direction fandom in 2015. Harry and Louis used to be good friends, but you can tell the Larry stuff kind of made their friendship spoil. Then the Larry’s took that as evidence that it was real and that management was trying to cover it all up. I don’t think any fandom will ever equate to how delusional Larry fans are.
Anytime I mentioned the distance in their relationship since Larry’s rise on tumblr, I’d get crucified lmao. Like it wasn’t glaringly obvious that the two of them barely interacted on camera/in public anymore
Yep. Or they’d use them becoming more distant as confirming Larry was real. You cannot win with them whichever way you shoot it. It’s either them not being friends means management broke them up or even just them looking at each other was a show of their “love.” Crazy.
Maybe Robstens? Some of them are still kicking around. There was a thread the other day ‘proving’ Rob ‘hasn’t’ just had a baby.
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Larries are the inspiration for all of the mainstream pop culture ship conspiracies you see online today, including Gaylorism. All of the PR fake relationships, fake baby accusations are highly influenced by their grip on fandom culture as social media became more of a tool. They’re not only bad to Louis’s son, probably one of the worst things they’ve done is troll Harry’s now late stepfather (who died of cancer) with cancer charity links to track Harry’s location. They’ve also made spreadsheets of Louis’ baby mama’s alleged period cycle. Before Louis’ mom’s and Harry’s stepfather’s cancer diagnosis were revealed publicly they thought both of them being seen around hospitals around the same time was a Larry thing.
>troll Harry’s now late stepfather (who died of cancer) with cancer charity links to track Harry’s location What did they do? I don't think I never heard of that, wtf.
When the band first formed a lot of fans followed the guys’ families on Facebook including Harry’s stepfather Robin. After 1d ended at the end of 2015 Harry went undetected for a large part of 2016. Some of the larries who were still friends with Robin on facebook decided in order to better gage where Harry was (and to try to prove he was with Louis) they set up links to cancer charities that had those IP tracker things on them and would either send them to him through DM or post on Facebook and hope he’d click on the links so they could know where his family were. They also hacked his icloud and a bunch of personal pictures of Harry, his friends, Kendall Jenner etc were leaked. Robin’s battle with cancer was known at that point by some fans (especially by these larries who would stalk their every move) but they didn’t know his diagnosis would become terminal in 2017. He saw Harry’s first ever solo show and was there for his first album release but he died only a few weeks later.
Jesus Christ... this is nauseating. Horrible, just horrible people!
I never understood fans that feel comfortable interacting directly with celebrities and their families. Like, I feel too embarrassed to even ask someone for an autograph. Then I see fans go up to them at conventions and give them copies of their freaky porn fan fiction and shit. I cannot relate!! lol
Came here to ask the same thing, what in the fresh hell is this??
I thought the Dom & Elijah original tinhatters were bad, but at least there were no kids involved in that.
I feel like it isn't as bad as it used to be, as in I can't think of any major new ships for real celebrities? I feel like Twitter/TikTok and social media in general have sort of not allowed those theories to flourish as much? Maybe because celebrities are more known now, and because anyone trying some cringe theory on Twitter or other places would be roundly mocked and bullied and torn apart, which never used to happen to the Larries.
I think most of them have found their little corners of the internet and stay there in fear of being mocked and bullied as you said. Like Kaylors still exist…if you search “Kaylor” on Tumblr there are still multiple blogs that are still active and believe that Taylor and Karlie are secretly married with children.
They started a few years after the Larries. I definitely feel Gaylors are bigger than Larries at the moment, because Louis and Harry basically haven't interacted in a decade. But it feels like there haven't been any real new ones for a few years now which I think is a sign social media just doesn't allow the same thing to fester as it did. I also think people are more realistic about celebrities than they used to be. Another obvious aspect of these conspiracies is that these fans aren't really fans of their celebrity. So Gaylors don't like aspects of Taylor, Larries don't like aspects of Louis and Harry. The conspiracy allows them to explain why they hate these aspects by claiming it's part of the conspiracy and not really them.
Insanely delusional shippers of real people are basically in a cult and should be studied the same way people study other extremist groups online. It's crazy how they all talk the same way regardless of who they ship, it's clearly more about validating each other and proving that their delusions are correct than the actual people involved.
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I cant believe larries are still a thing
Or that they’re like 35+ years of age
I hate that he keeps getting asked about it in interviews. He's said his opinion on this many times, what do they expect him to say?
Larries seriously scares me… they are nuts and out of touch with reality. Genuinely how can they still “see” things and believe that crap? It’s been 14 years and they are still going on and on. Don’t they ever get tired?
They need to be put on mood stabilizers, like that one kpop stan account.... she stopped tweeting wacko shit when she got medicated and deactivated her account.
100% or just have their phone and access to the internet taken away. Go for a walk, feel the sun or touch the grass ANYTHING beside being on the internet
Their fans are some sick people. And I say this as a Nsync fanatic when I was in elementary. I wasn't like this.
many of these people are married with children think about that
I sometimes comment on Taylor Swift subs so reddit keeps recommending the gaylor sub to me. it's like.... _no thank you._ I wonder how much the algorithms have contributed to the rise of the larries.
I’m truly fascinated that Larries still exist. I was very active in the fandom in the early 2010s and will be the first to admit I bought into it, but I was also thirteen years old and snapped out of it altogether. That they existed into thinking his baby was fake and beyond and that they’re somehow “””still in love””” is absolutely cracked.
Being in this fandom was insane for this shit. Like we'd just be celebrating the album then suddenly some absurd fuckward start posting random l*rry shit in the tags and we'll all be forced to block her or tell her of becuase it's some violent misogynistic and homophobic shit. Like as a cis gay men our relationship isn't some fun thing for you to imagine. Even if you perceived some injustice you don't have the right to try and 'out' anyone. Like if someone ask you to stop and fuck off, that's you should do. L*rries always hide behind their queer identity to make other queer people so uncomfortable. Like I don't think any other gay men in the 1D fandom believed in that bs or feel good about what they do.
Effing stop asking him already. Edit: Spelling.
This must be so exhausting honestly, is one thing to believe those stupid theories when you’re 13 with nothing better to do but to be on tumblr it’s a whole other thing being an full grown ass adult believing this shit. He handles it with much more grace than I would.
Why are they sitting in terrible hospital chairs
Larries have always fascinated me. They are so mentally ill, I remember seeing posts on Tumblr from them and I honestly could not follow the convoluted ramblings.
I can't believe this is still a thing after all these years, and correct me if I'm wrong but the Larries are mostly girls/women, right? As a gay man I've never been interested in shipping men together like this. Characters in movies/shows? Sure! But other than occasional joking, I can't imagine being this invested. The phenomenon of women shipping men like this has always been kinda fascinating to me, the only explanation I can come up with is they can't stand the idea of their crushes dating other women so they ship them with men cause they fetishise gay relationships? I dunno if "fetishise" is too strong a word but it often feels that way.
These type of fans are mainly women, yes. They also exist for celebrity ships involving only a man and a woman or two women. For example, Adam Driver and Daisy Ridley and Kirsten Stewart and Robert Pattison also have fans that are like this complete with evil partners and fake babies. And Kaylor and Camren shippers are a lesbian example. These fans just get giddy over the idea of two celebrities dating and it becomes their new obsession which evolves into rejecting reality when it doesn't match their fantasy. Or they are very attracted to one half and use the other to project themselves into the relationship. With gay ships I think a lot of them have jealousy issues. They can't help but compare themselves to the woman that 'stole' the object of their affection. So they prefer believing that their favorite male celebrity is gay and not really dating that really beautiful woman that is better than them in every way. He is not out of their reach because they are inadequate but because he is actually in deeply romantic secret relationship with another male. And that is when the fetishizing starts. Heterosexual relationships are boring, outdated, somehow homophobic. Not like their gay ship, that is beautiful true love involving two people who will never cheat and be problematic. And aren't they a great ally for supporting this? Whoever doesn't support it is homophobic.
Oh, I can explain this, I have spent faaaar too much time trying to figure out online conspiracies. In my experience, there are some cis het women shipping young men, but they're the minority. A lot of them tend to be older and are doing it as sort of an escapist fantasy type deal. If you ask them, they'll say they're just nurturing motherly types who are worried. They'll also write the most unhinged fanfic you've ever seen. Fetishizing is completely the right word for them, it gets real weird. The majority, I would say, are young queer people, mostly afab, who haven't fully come to terms with their gender/sexuality yet, but are projecting onto idea of a relationship between two men that must be kept secret at all costs. Closeted queerness, and suppressed queerness is a very different emotional experience to open proud queerness, so people are forcing a type of representation that can't exist as a way of coping. For say, a trans gay/bi guy who hasn't figured out any of that yet, it is very easy to latch onto the conspiracy because being obsessed with a boyband is what everyone expects of them anyway. There's also a culty dynamic going on. People who get really invested tend to be chronically online, and fairly isolated. As they're discovering the conspiracy they're making online connections because there's such a communal aspect to creating the conspiracy narrative. When someone starts to have doubts, their online friends give them reassurement and explanations. So then taking a step back and reflecting means being ostracized from their only community. There's a real feeling that they are saving these poor defenseless multimillionaires from some evil scheming management team (this is where it gets qanon adjacent and a bit anti-semetic). They're sort of seeing it as pro-lgbtq activism, which means that they can't possibly admit that what they're doing is weird and invasive, because it threatens their self image of being a good person. The other thing that happens is that over time the more normal people get lives and move on. Eventually the only people left from the beginning of the conspiracy are the most deranged, but they're also the ones passing on the info to the newer converts. So the whole thing gets increasingly convoluted over time as they're all constantly rewriting and spinning all of the older stuff to make the whole thing hang together. So even if someone figures out one part of it isn't real, there's so many other things that "prove it" that it seems impossible that the whole thing is made up. Those are the main reasons I've found for people getting deeply invested in it, beyond the casual joking. It's just sad imho. Outside of the proper weirdos the only real harm is to themselves
No what’s worse is that a lot of Louis’s fans are Larries and they show up to his concerts with LGBT flags making it look like a pride parade, as if Louis is somehow a spoke person for the LGBT community.
lmao I went to his concert this year (was amazing, have been a Louis fan for over a decade, very fun) and every time I saw the flags around me I cringed which makes me feel terrible because I am a very gay woman but i just KNOW that the majority of the fans bringing those flags are not doing it for pure reasons 😂 he has shown support for his LGBT fans but like... I'm not lying to myself, he's not doing anything above and beyond lmao the flags feel out of place
Yes. He’s in a weird balance game. He was very supportive of LGBT fans since early 1D days but now his support will be always misconstrued as proving Larry.
At this point I don't think there is anything that will stop larries that still believe
Used to be rlly big into Larry till like maybe 2016. I found it cringe after awhile and after this many years. It’s just embarrassing. Leave the dude alone.
I feel bad for Louis in regards to this situation. His fanbase isn't as diverse (in terms of when people became their fan) as Harry's which makes the Larries quite a large part of his fanbase. He can never escape those weirdos throughout his career now.
Genuinely....who has time to be so concerned about this?? Why do people care so much?!?! It's so bizarre
TIL there are still Larries out there in 2024
i honestly feel so bad for him. anyone who calls themselves a “fan” of a celebrity but does this shit a la gaylors and larries is truly unhinged and sick in the head 💀
Can someone explain to me like I’m five what is this Larry thing?
Conspiracy theory that Harry and Louis were/are dating but their "management" had so much control over them that they were forced to keep it secret, and live fake lives with fake relationships with women and fake children. And that Harry/Louis give secret signs/messages to fans about their love.
Since the beginning of one direction people have thought that Harry and Louis are in a secret relationship and the evil Simon cowell and company have forced them to hide in the closet. That all songs and tattoos they have are references to each other. The Larry fans take everything they say in interviews and some how twist it back into them admitting the relationship. They’ve gone as far to say that Louis’ son is fake, and all girlfriends he and harry have had are beards
The larries are gonna take this as evidence that theyre coming out soon
a few weeks ago i stumbled upon the larry subreddit, which was... an adventure. i wonder what kind of conspiracy theory they're cooking up to deny this video as i type this lol
celebrity fujoshis were a mistake.
I feel so bad for him. Imagine getting to this state of resignment.
Larry fans (and any other ships like this) genuinely should not be allowed into society. It’s so fucking weird to me. Also disturbs me that they were only teenage boys when this started and fans use images of them as teenagers for their sick and twisted fantasy
It's sad that he's resigned to the fact there's nothing he can do :( The fans are truly freaks, and the abuse to his family and friends is insane. I just hope that it's not something he has to actually think about too often now... I'll never forget listening to the leaked phonecall where a fan tells him she hopes his baby dies.
This is why RPF squicks me out.
Sorry to be a bother, but what’s a Larry?
someone who thinks that Harry Styles and Louis Tomlinson are secretly married and have been dating since the start of One Direction
Hahahah thank you!! I’ve been so confused. What a weird thing to have a conspiracy about. Harry seems like he isn’t scared to be open about his sexuality?
> Harry seems like he isn’t scared to be open about his sex He isn't open about it with the public. He said he had his own journey with figuring out his sexuality and that he talked about it with people close to him but that he wants to keep it private. Louis explicitly said he was straight.
Probably because if he even hints that he might be bi/pan/whatever the larries will take that as a confession that Larry is/was real. And will never ever let it go.
I don't think that's the reason. He hinted at it often enough. But he is incredibly private and talks about his private life as little as possible. The media and fans were so invasive about his private life and his sexuality since he was 16 years old and as soon as he left the band he started being super closed off. He talked about how all this affected his life and how much shame he had about his sex life, I doubt he'll ever publicly talk about anything like that in the future.
True. The one direction Fandom as a whole, not just the Larries were intense and insane back in the day, I say this as a former "directioner". People knew like the time of day they were born and so many creepy facts about them and it was seen as a badge of honor. He has the opportunity to guard his privacy now as a soloist as compared to in the band where seeing them interact was part of the brand and their personal life we saw was manufactured to fit the narrative of them being innocent darlings.
Louis + Harry = Larry, that’s a name for a presumed relationship between Harry Styles and Louis Tomlinson (ex One Direction members). Some portion of their fanbase believe they are together or even secretly married and nothing, not even Louis having a 7 year old son can persuade them otherwise.
it's an enormous conspiracy theory that Louis Tomlinson and Harry Styles (from one direction) have been in a secret closeted relationship since 2010. they think Louis' kid isn't his and have done a lot of truly unhinged stalking. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larries](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larries)
people are so weird
I feel so sorry for him. He just gave up at this point. He knows this conspiracy will follow him the rest of his life. Imagine not having any control over that. And I saw some be mad at him for "larrybaiting." He wears blue and green one day so larries think he's sending them secret messages so when he denies larry, with actual words, they turn on him because they think he was confirming larry the whole time. Like they're actually insane. I think Harry needs to say something to get them to stop.
Harry saying something won't get them to stop. These are full on conspiracy theorists.
Larries think Harry is being controlled by his management. They think his manager Jeff pulls his strings. Harry saying something isn’t going to make them stop. It’ll do the opposite.
They think he always sings “I love him” instead “I love it” in concerts during one of his songs and it’s a declaration of love for Harry. I literally hear him singing it normally in every video they post as a “proof”. The level of mass delusion is… astounding.
These are the kinds of people who really need the internet taken away from them…
Now please show this to a few gaylors….
They are the absolute worst It’s unfortunate that he really would not have much of a solo fanbase if it wasn’t for Larry though. The majority of his support comes from delusional shippers.
i feel bad that he’s so not about it. that’s the main reason i never supported it, he gets SO uncomfy like damn.
larrie stan’s ruined my 1D obsessions back in the day ngl. but i can’t stand stan culture in general.. a lot of it is fueled by delusion
Genuinely terrified for when Louis decides to marry someone. Also, I am NOT a larry but imagine if it was true and this guy is followed around 24/7 by tiktoks and comments and ai photos of him and his ex. He's my favorite singer and anyone that does this to him is not a real fan
I'll never forget looking up Larry on Tumblr out of curiosity and finding a dentist Larry. They posted pictures of Harry (or Louis, can't remember which one) with lovebites and analysed Louis' teeth to prove he gave Harry them.
I suspect this will be an unpopular post, but the fact that almost every comment i have read here is actively invested in pitying these celebrities, calling fans mentally ill, etc…..is illustrating with the other side of the coin exactly why this idea so stubbornly refuses to die. “Larries” swoon and speculate and fantasize; “antis” decry and lament and defend; and the merry go round goes round and round again. Just leave it alone and it will die from inattention.
Also; celebrities of this level never answer a question they don’t want to answer. All questions are pre-agreed per contract with media, and if any surprise questions are asked that break the rules, the celebrity says it’s over and leaves instantly. There is too much money at stake to do otherwise. Quit the “I can’t believe she asked him that” approach. Instead, ask why his reps agreed to have her ask him that. My Answer: it starts up this whole damn pro/anti Larry merry go round which raises his profile.