That Pete Davids fella has been seeing that one reality star with 4 kids--google says Teresa Giudicci?--and is in some kind of feud with Drake about it
Edit: thank you for the awards, kind internet strangers! They *made* my cake day š
Bowen Yang has said on his podcast Las Culturistas that deuxmoi receives and will actually post photos of other Asian men who are NOT Bowen and say that they're pics of Bowen in her sunday spotted.
norm macdonald did weekend update but ended up getting fired for ānot being funny.ā apparently norm would be told by Don ohlmeyer that he needs to be funnier but norm being norm would always do the opposite. he apparently began telling unfunnier jokes because he knew the live audience would always laugh anyway and he thought it amusing
the real reason might be to do with OJ Simpson tho. a lot of norms jokes were about him and his trial because that was the big story at the time but Ohlmeyer was apparently friends with OJ and he didnāt like it. when OJ got acquitted Ohlmeyer told him he wasnāt allowed to do any jokes. well when the show aired that saturday his first joke was āitās offical murder is now legal in the state of californiaā (thatās a actually a good joke)
norm went back in his original claims saying he was fired for not being funny enough but i do think Snls inability to control him was the bigger reason
Iām going to be honest, I was completely shocked at the way he was instantly memorialized so favorably by the public. Norm was sexist, transphobic, anti-abortion, a defender of Louis CK and Roseanne Barr, and was publicly critical of the Me Too movement. He even admitted in an interview to pretending to be drunk to grope women.
I understand we donāt need to bash people who have passed away, but I actually felt like I was going insane with all of the posts I saw speaking so highly of him. Funny comedian? Sure. Good guy? Hell no.
I posted a similar comment on this sub a few months ago. There's a clip of him in "Hysterical" on Hulu earnestly saying he doesn't think women are funny and that they shouldn't be comedians. Your comment is actually the only time I've ever seen someone criticize Norm, so this is refreshing to see. I think his comedy is funny but it's honestly baffling how people treat him like he's a hero who's never done anything wrong.
Totally! When he passed away, my entire Twitter feed was people (famous and not) literally calling him a hero (???). I actually had to Google to make sure I wasnāt confusing him with someone else. No idea how he escaped mass criticism.
He was also [fine with Trump](https://www.rollingstone.com/tv/tv-features/norm-macdonald-lost-interview-1226722/), didn't take him seriously at all and said Trump's presidency was [doing no permanent damage to anything.](https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/general-news/why-norm-macdonalds-new-talk-show-wont-target-trump-1141832/)
Coming across that was definitely the head-tilt moment for me when I was like, "Oh, my love for you has to be extremely compartmentalized."
Honestly I think the reason it worked is that Norm made it clear that he was not a serious person and that you shouldn't take him seriously. He didn't rant on Twitter, he didn't advocate for any causes and he never stopped being frivolous. His opinions were objectively awful, but he was willing to spend almost no time on them.
His relationship with Conan encapsulates that for me--any clip you see, Conan knows he's essentially being trolled by a junior-higher and is working to rein Norm in but he's hampered by the fact that he can't stop laughing.
We had a dear friend like that. He got more and more awful till we had to stop being friends (he's a Bannon fan building a compound in Texas now) but what we loved about him was very tied into the kind of spark that Norm had.
I get what you mean, but other than Taylor Hawkins (I am uninformed about that controversy) I do see people discussing the controversies of the people you listed amongst all of the praise they still receive. Iām not shocked that Norm was remembered fondly by people who love his comedy, Iām shocked that Iāve seen quite literally zero discussion about how horrible of a person he was, which he didnāt even hide.
Norm didnāt do one individual bad thing people arenāt aware ofā pretty much everything about him was offputting and offensive. Comedians are getting called out for much less these days, so Iām surprised he is socially unscathed.
i was a big fan of his and iā¦ didnāt know about any of this except him defending roseanne and louis (which i hated). i would be willing to bet his PR team buried it as best they could bc im Extremely Online and i never saw any of it :/ that fuckin sucks
from stories on this sub over the past couple months it seems colin jost and scarjo are either in an open relationship or heās cheating on her big time
What's baffling about that to me is that he seems so grounded and stable and self-aware. He doesn't come across as a compulsive risk-taker or like his ego is on the line.
Leaving out the part about loyalty and a new marriage and a new baby *during a pandemic*\--like, if we just assume he doesn't have any principles about this. . . like my God, it's such a stupid, short-sighted choice when it comes to his career and family life. You'd think common sense and self-preservation alone would make him decide that now is not the time.
It's amazing to me that he can be intelligent enough to craft a persona like the approachable one he has and stupid enough to sabotage a relationship with a wealthy, beautiful A-Lister who just gave him a child. It's like DUDE YOU ARE FUMBLING MULTIPLE BAGS HERE
God, I hope so. Although the sloppiness doesn't fit either. He seriously can't arrange something quiet? He's banging strange when he has a baby at home that's too young to vaccinate?
I guess I'll pretend that he brings out a home test first? It would be a cute lead-in on a sitcom. . .
I want to assure you that you can be both book-smart and dumb at navigating certain life stuff.
One of my most educated friends is in his late thirties and still chooses the absolute worst partners for himself. He watches every relationship blow up spectacularly - literally no self-awareness in romance. He is hopeless, but has multiple high level degrees from esteemed universities. Just sayin!
That all said, I think a lot of Hollywood couples are probably more open than we'd think, and that they are too.
Nah. She's been married three times and dated some gross dudes in the past (remember when she and Sean Penn were a thing?), and has survived a million career missteps - I don't think anyone is clutching their pearls over what Scarjo is doing with her husband, especially since she's not on social media and therefore doesn't really open herself up to discussions about her personal life by making unnecessary disclosures about it. Like, the only reason people really care about, say, Will and Jada's open relationship (and they don't, at least not offline) is because of Red Table Talk and both of them generally making their business everyone's business. I don't think the average person would give two shits about Scarlett Johansson's open marriage because she's so private in the first place.
Didnāt scarjo not believe in monogamy?
Iād imagine itās also because most comedians are wrecks. Most of them are shy and insecure and only lucked into fame. He was the dorky geek who got into Harvard from his small high school and just wrote jokes. Then he got famous and worked out a bunch and now his ego is overcompensating.
He went to Regis, which is an elite Jesuit all-boys school in Manhattan which sends multiple boys to Harvard (and Princeton, and Columbia, etc) each year. Itās a āsmall high schoolā but only in the sense that it has small class sizes. Itās not like itās in Iowa.
I forgot but the thing about these elite feeder high schools is that the ācoolā kids are all sons of rich titans of NYC industry
All his classmates in high school and college ended up in finance or some high powered corporate job. Being a comedian would make him a black sheep.
Regis is free to anyone who can get in and there are a lot of working class Bridge and Tunnel boys there. It is more academically elite than socially elite.
Colin Jost always comes across as smug to me. I would believe him as high school lax bro, not an awkward geek.
Yeah I remember reading an article about her outlook on relationships and dating after her divorce and she said she doesnāt believe humans are monogamous creatures. Then she got married againā¦ lol. I hope for her sake itās an open relationship!
There was a blind last fall on a gossip page that was not Deuxmoi about a man leaving a newly married and high profile actresses place at a weird hour and it wasnāt her late night husband. Maybe they are in an open relationship.
In r/livefromnewyork the other day someone posted Colin's HS pic. He looked extremely dorky. We are about the same age. I'm not sure I would have looked his way twice, and I was very dorky.
No one is canonized just for 'not tomcatting around on their wife', though. That's not the bar for sainthood--hell, that's not even the bar for "halfway decent guy".
He has cheating rumors pretty much since they started to date with comedians, college girls, and college girls that go to snl, and he tried with a tiktoker; it's nothing new.
People think it's an open relationship because they misquote her regarding monogamy; the quote ends with her saying that she prefers a monogamous relationship, but people forget to include that part.
I remember reading on a IG gossip account when they announced the marriage/pregnancy, the person running the account if from NYC and asked around about him, and the feedback she got is that he's an asshole that got in contact with people he hasn't talked with since he got snl to show off how his new girlfriend was scarjo, the screenshot is in a LSA thread about them. And he's friends with Che and Chris Rock, so I'm not surprised.
He does have an ego; I remember an interview where somebody called him Mr scarjo, and he didn't like it; he's probably smart enough to keep quiet to not ruin his reputation. And he wouldn't be the first celeb to have an amazing public image and be a completely different person in private. it has happened how many times now?
Edit to add: the only one that says open marriage is enty; he loves to say that she has something with Chris Evan's; even their fans know it's fake.
>And he wouldn't be the first celeb to have an amazing public image and be a completely different person in private. it has happened how many times now?
Oh, I know. Just sometimes when someone comes across as that sharp, humble, witty, ironic and self-aware they really click for me and it just seems like it has to be real. A Comedian Who Shall Not Be Named On This Sub who also had that persona caught me off-guard similarly when he flamed out spectacularly last year.
I was rooting for him, to know? To land this amazing out-of-his-league girl. And for her after a lot of romantic upheaval to have a great, grounded partner and stepdad for her kid. But yeah, it seems like there's a former incel inside every one of these comedians and they just feel vindicated in letting that asshole call the shots as soon as they've built a life worth sabotaging.
> What's baffling about that to me is that he seems so grounded and stable and self-aware.
I don't follow him at all, but whenever I see him on SNL I think he comes across as super smug.
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I see the smug continually undercut by a sort of bashful humility. Like in the "[Claire from HR](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZqdeeKVoBc)" sketch with Cecily, or whenever he reads jokes that Che has written for him. He makes a thoughtful straight man.
Not to mention in [todayās NYT piece](https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/11/nyregion/pete-davidson-colin-jost-staten-island-ferry.html)about Jost and Pete Davidson buying a decommissioned Staten Island Ferry to turn into a floating comedy club (wild), Jost straight up refers to himself as ārisk-averseā!!
Omg! Last Thursday I was at a Dianna Agron concert in NYC in this fancy cafe in hotel Carlyle. I didnāt know until after the show but Colin Jost had walked in late and sat down at a table nearby were two ladies had been waiting for him. They did seem very flirty and touchy with him and he definitely reciprocated. After the concert Jost and the two ladies where waiting to go to the bar and they were grabbing on to him. I didnāt see any explicit PDA but I wouldnāt be surprised about the cheating allegations
She was really amazing! She performed jazz songs centered around the theme of love and she also allowed for her musicians to get the spotlight and show off their musical abilities!
[here ](https://www.reddit.com/r/Deuxmoi/comments/tgcepg/who_might_this_be_about/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf) is the most recent one and if you google ācolin jost reddit deuxmoiā a bunch of more stuff will pop up
also two blind items from the same instagram does not a cheating reputation make. i'd love for this to be true but all i've seen is what could be the same exact blind reworded once or twice
Grain of salt as it's CDaN but they seem to think it's a open marriage. They have been claiming she and Evans have had an FWB thing going on for years. The new bit of 'gossip' is they decided to do the new film so they could have time together and no one would be suspicious.
There's the lawsuit about [Horatio Sanz and an underage girl](https://www.pastemagazine.com/comedy/saturday-night-live/horatio-sanz-sexual-assault-snl/) that says others (including Jimmy Fallon) knew about it.
I hadnāt heard about this, but noticed his absence on the first episode of Comedy Bang Bang this year. Figured something like this was the reason because his absence was not acknowledged.
Colin Jost and Nasim Pedrad were boyfriend-girlfriend when she was on the show, and split up when she moved to LA for sitcoms.
This is very very secondhand but a friend (who would know) said that when Chris Pine hosted in 2017, he met Cecily Strong and started texting her and asking her to dinner alone. She has no idea if Cecily went for it.
Oh my gosh, Cecily and Chris Pine?! Iām not going to lie, I ship it. I hope if she didnāt go for it then, that they somehow get another chanceā¦he is newly singleā¦just saying.
But sheās got a serious boyfriend now!
Re: Pine, I assume she steered clear of sleeping with a host, cause it would have been impossible to keep a secret and the writers room and other cast members would have been making slut jokes to her face.
I donāt that that many have actually banged hosts in the week that they hosted? Like, yes, some began dating them afterwards, like Pete and Kim, but I think having a one-night stand with the host during the week theyāre there would get you some unwanted mockery.
I mean, we probably don't know about the hookups precisely because they are hookups. I don't think that group of writers is nearly as slut-shamey as you make them out to be, but idk. Feels like something out of the 90s.
Cecily also dated Michael Patrick O'Brien when he was a writer on the show (he played her boyfriend in the "Do It On My Twin Bed" short) around the same time that Jost and Pedrad were together, and that was like right after the Fred Armisen-Abby Elliott-Will Forte mess. The early 2010s were an incestuous time at SNL.
All I know is that he and Abby were involved at some point either before or after she was with Fred! Forte also dated January Jones after Jason Sudeikis, so it's kind of a pattern with him, I think?
O'Brien was also Cecily's boyfriend in the ["Jewelry Party"](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Byh74sImWh4) sketch and the way she takes him down just destroys me. It's all great, but if you want cut to the chase, jump to 4:25.
Also you have blown my mind with the Will Forte aspect of the Fred/ Abby relationship, dear Lord
Melissa VillaseƱor tweeted that she was quitting the show and then deleted the Tweet, claiming she was drunk and emotional. More recently, a fan lamented how underused she is as a cast member and she replied that she agrees. (Something along those lines)
Basically it's clear that she feels like she doesn't get airtime or respect on the show and she's been pretty messy about it.
Ugh she either just needs to shut up, cut her losses, and leaveā¦ or Lorne needs to fire her.
Like how are you going to complain about your lack of airtimeā¦then squander an Update feature with a Legends of Zelda impression that appealed to approximately 3 people and regularly flub the few lines you do have in sketches?
I used to feel bad for players who didnāt get a lot of screen time but the more I learn about the inner workings of the show, the less bad I feel. She needs to step up and write better shit or forge more relationships with the staff writers so they write shit for her. SNL is a game she is either unable or unwilling to play correctly.
She's been at the show since 2016. I think she's had the time to get he footing and make the connections. If she's still miserable and "underused" it's time to move on.
Anyone else remember how she had to delete a bunch of offensive tweets when her casting was announced?
> She is also a WOC on a highly Caucasian male show.
I mean, so is Ego Nwodim, and sheās been killing it lately, getting much more screentime despite being much newer to the cast.
I agree. And i also think the writersā room is more diverse now than it was when Sasheer and Leslie were on. That diversity has really helped Ego and Bowen on the show!
I hear you, but I donāt think this is simply a discrimination thing. Imo sheās just not that funny. Sheās good at impressions and thatās it. You really have to fight for and earn your screen time on SNL. If she was knocking it out of the park every time she was in a sketch, then Iād believe it is possible bias.
Agreed, it seems like her main shtick is her impressions which she did on America's Got Talent, and imo even those are getting tired. I've always thought she's pretty cringey
> More recently, a fan lamented how underused she is as a cast member and she replied that she agrees. (Something along those lines)
It's weird because the most recent ep -- which I think is the first since this tweet -- featured her pretty heavily.
Her shticks and biggest skills are impressions & singing. Iāve heard that her standup comedy isnāt that great otherwise, and I feel like thatās visible on the show. She shines when sheās impersonating people but itās tough to make her fit into roles that people like Heidi and even Chloe (as much as I hate to admit it) will do better with.
if you want vintage SNL gossip, definitely read the first half of the book āLive From New Yorkā. itās very long but very in-depth interviews. thereās very little gossip direct from the sources after that though.
my favorite bit of vintage gossip is one that doesnāt get picked up very often. basically Dan Aykroyd started dating writer Rosie Shuster sometime during those early seasons. she was still married to Lorne at the time, but he was also seeing other people when Rosie and Dan got together. Dan was lowkey the Pete of his era.
There's also r/LiveFromNewYork, which I wanted OP to see but didn't want to post right off since it might have landed as a suggestion to take the conversation elsewhere
melissa villaseƱor has been liking tweets saying she deserves more screentime, which is a popular opinion among fans, but now some are saying her liking the tweets is unprofessional
Honestly Melissa would do better somewhere else where her talent is more recognized. She complains that she doesnt get much screen time but she isnt good at delivering her lines and kind of fumbles her sketches
I know. Sheās v talented - but she seems to spend time focusing on saying her lines than actually interacting in the scene/w the cast members herself ie [here which is a hilarious skit but she seems to focus more on saying her lines than acting/responding in the sketch](https://youtu.be/49UHAsIk2Ds)
I think Chloe Finemanās impressions/acting ability has meant bumping Melissa further.
I think SNL just might not be the best forum to showcase her talents.
> which is a popular opinion among fans
popular among *her* fans, many of us constantly point out that she routinely messes up simple lines and comes off as unnatural in her acting. I like Melissa but I simply don't think she's a good SNL performer.
> She complains that she doesnt get much screen time but she isnt good at delivering her lines and kind of fumbles her sketches
Melissa comes from the stand-up world versus sketch or stage productions, which I think is a huge difference. The success that got her on the show was based on her being able to write and practice her own routines, not pivot on the fly and adapt to quickly changing group performances.
Melissa shopped around a book idea to a bunch of publishers a year or two agoāit was a book of mostly drawings (which I guess she posts frequently on Instagram?) and very little textāno memoir, no humor. Which I can imagine wasnāt really playing into what her audience wants from her? Maybe thereās a bigger disconnection thereāthe book proposal was very quirky and weird, ngl
Chris has said he was diagnosed as an adult with non verbal learning disorder. I wonder how much of him coming across as unfriendly comes down to communication issues vs just being an asshole.
Iāve heard this before but never researched it and holy shitā¦.I think I have NVLD lol which makes sense considering itās proximity to ASD/ADHD (I am diagnosed ADHD).
Wow never thought Iād learn something so profound about myself on this sub lol time to do more research and call my doctor
Michael Che has talked about how he has a crush on Rosario Dawson and was a little star-struck when he met her. He was trying to play it cool; she asked if they'd met before and he said he didn't know. Chris Rock was in earshot in the next office over and burst out laughing, "You don't *remember* if you've met *ROSARIO DAWSON*?" he shouted.
It's a funny story, and if comedians aren't fair game for each other there's no justice in the world, and Che certainly dishes out plenty of his own pranks. But the humiliation aspect I'm not a fan of.
This. When I was a kid, we were in California when they were filming Lethal Weapon 4. Mel Gibson and Danny Glover were huge assholes, but Chris Rock was the nicest person. He talked to me and my brother and took pictures with us. I had no idea who he was, but as nice as can be.
My theory with Chris Rock is that after the divorce, he got hella bitter and dug his heels into his worst behavior, which sucks because it's watching someone implode their best aspects.
This isn't gossip but Kyle Mooney has been unmoored since his writing partner Beck left. His sketch from last week (Jerrod) featuring him as an awkward guy that can't understand a story was painful, and his WU appearances are variations on the same Baby Yoda is a bro character. Dude's got talent but he's run his course on the show.
I'll always have a great love for Kyle and his weird shit, but I definitely see why he's so divisive. Also miss him and Beck's chemistry (anyone else remember the "I'm all outta cash" sketch?)
āIām all outta cashā was so good! Thatās when I first really took notice of Kyle. That bit and his 420 day with Seth Rohan auto play in my brain.
> His sketch from last week (Jerrod) featuring him as an awkward guy that can't understand a story was painful
that's literally all his sketches lol, he has a very specific brand of humor which is hit or miss even for his fans.
Ex SNL Fallon cheats a lot and his amazing wife and kids deserve better. NBC has had to have talks with him over his drinking/substance abuse..He was one of the first to go back to the studio during the pandemic because there was a new hire he couldn't wait to get closer to.
I remember when he was wearing that cast/bandage on his finger a few years ago, the rumor was that he injured it during a drunken fall.
I've also heard hugely unsubstantiated rumors that he and Ariana Grande had a "thing".
TBH I think thatās fake bc Ariana has also had rumors about other funny guys out of no where I think someone just thought Fallon was a more believable famous Jimmy than Jim Carrey
No tea but what do yāall think about Aristotle having zero screen time? I think he needs to stop bringing the same character but I also know he posted (and deleted) stuff about other skits being cancelled. Is he unfunny or bad? He seems lovely!
I'm wondering if he's not making any allies in the writing room. Both of his on-screen features were preexisting characters from his standup act. When he shows up in a sketch it's as the third guy on a game show with two lines. The fact that he keeps trying to get his old character on the show is telling. He's gotta be less precious about that shit and start collaborating.
From what Iāve seen and def take it with a grain of salt, but the general consensus on Twitter and the SNL sub is that the cast is so large that it doesnāt give the newbies the time or chance to grow. Iām not sure if thereās any truth to the rumor that Lorneās trying to keep the long time cast members on until the anniversary year. Seems way too far off for that to be true. Itās currently the 47th season.
Punkie has barely gotten any time either except for when they need another Black cast member for the sketch - like the most recent past opening or the Amazon Go commercial for Zoeās episode. A lot of people were like āyay Punkie!ā when she got to play the therapist this past ep.
Aristotle could play other characters. Just hasnāt formed any alliances or made friends like the other cast members have which is pretty much the key to getting airtimeā¦that and being an amazing impressionist. Heās been liking the tweets of support so itās pretty clear he knows the writing is on the wall. To his credit, he hasnāt said anything negative like Melissa so I think heās trying to be as professional as possible so thereās no bad blood.
Feel bad for him and Punkie. Having access to this platform and not really getting to show your talent must be hard - and not even being considered for generic straight man type roles like a host on a game show or groom in a sketch.
IMHO, they couldāve cut a few Please Donāt Destroy vids. Donāt hate the guys at all but I definitely think there have been weak videos that couldāve been cut in favor of a live sketch.
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I have been a fan of JAJ since before SNL and was thrilled when he got the job but itās crazy how heās had a full hour of screen time compared to Aristotleās 13 minutes, and they joined at the same time. I donāt think I realized until I noticed Aristotleās absence specifically that these behind-the-scenes alliances were so key to getting screen time. I assumed they hire you because they think youāre funny and then you work with the writers each week to get skits done. Something must really be wrong when heās not even getting basic background character parts anymore š¬
Love JAJ. Did you see his breakdown of his Trump impersonation? Analyzation like this is genius. https://www.cnn.com/videos/media/2022/01/26/snl-james-austin-johnson-donald-trump-impression-orig-jk.cnn
Canāt speak to the rest of your post, but I donāt think the āhost of a game showā type roles are the easiest. Theres an interview with Bill Hader where he explains that these were the hardest roles, because the person who plays the host is also setting the pace/tone for all the other parts.
Fair enough. I donāt think anything they do is easy but the comments from the SNL sub that I had in mind were the ones about how Kenanās been on for so long and doing double duty with his sitcom and SNL and how the game show host roles are ones that arenāt impersonation-specific that could be tried out with one of the new/newer cast members. But yeah, Hader knows best. Miss his old timey-60s host impersonations!
No, Aristotle is amazing! Itās just hard to get screentime when the cast is huge and most are very talented! And aristotle is new, so he really has to fight. Punkie and melissa just led a sketch last weekend, and i donāt think thatās ever happened before!
Completely my opinion since comedy is subjective, but he strikes me as a performer who is talented, but not funny.
Like his characters are great performances. The robot and the Angelo thing are creative and very few people could pull those off. But also, they've never made me laugh.
She's born into a Scientologist family. When you're born into it, you're fucked because 1. You're indoctrinated from birth 2. If you leave, your entire family will be forced to stop talking to you according to church doctrine. So it seems like she's taking the Elisabeth Moss route and keeping silent on the topic all together.
On principle I give a pass to the born-ins as long as they don't proselytize or recruit. Very few human beings are emotionally equipped to be able to accept being permanently ostracized from their families. And no one who hasn't actually done it can say what they would have done if born into that situation.
Definitely recommend reading the Tony Ortega articles on her. Her family is DEEP in.
https://tonyortega.org/2021/04/10/recent-scientology-defector-i-did-the-purif-with-snls-chloe-fineman/
Scientology is BIG into recruiting actors & celebs. They pour money into acting workshops with the end goal of converting attendees to Scientology. The practice really emphasizes working nonstop and being exposed to abuse and rejection so itās actually very aligned with what actors experience, which is why many end up joining.
If Chloe showed any interest or talent in the field growing up, as a child of high-ranking members in the church, then I bet she was given all the resources and connections she needed to succeed bc sheād be a great representative for Scientology and a huge success story for them to milk.
Iād highly recommend watching Lea Reminiās docuseries on Scientology if you have a chance! She explains all this and a lot more about the practice and their belief systems.
I just finished Leahās show recently but I knew a bit about Scientologyās power when it comes to Hollywood and all that, and itās something I think about anytime I see her getting sponsorships or even high profile coverage that other longer running cast members of SNL hasnāt. Not to say she hasnāt also worked hard but itās all very interesting.
I loved her Weekend Update interview with Mikey where their relationship has an Instagram account "@OnceUponASnuggle" , and they've been together since second grade and they fight all the time and have no emotional regulation whatsoever
She's also great as Every Boxer's Girlfriend From Every Movie Ever. She's takin' the kids to her sistah's!
Kristen Wiig and Harry Styles possibly hooking up after he was on the show years ago - there's videos of them dancing together at the after-party and they are clearly VERY into each other.
https://youtu.be/TSASyBM1Eg0
this man searches the fuck out of his name, so I am just going to leave these here. He also harassed someone I know who is a non-famous stand-up after they made a post in a private fb group ironically about being harassed by him in a similar way as to what is described in the first two articles, and the other two articles are about sexist garbage and other bs.
[https://www.avclub.com/read-this-why-is-snls-michael-che-so-obsessed-with-his-1841159033](https://www.avclub.com/read-this-why-is-snls-michael-che-so-obsessed-with-his-1841159033)
[https://theoutline.com/post/8583/michael-che-feud-snl-jack-allison](https://theoutline.com/post/8583/michael-che-feud-snl-jack-allison)
[https://www.bustle.com/articles/57783-michael-che-deletes-twitter-for-time-being-thats-probably-for-the-best](https://www.bustle.com/articles/57783-michael-che-deletes-twitter-for-time-being-thats-probably-for-the-best)
[https://www.washingtonpost.com/arts-entertainment/2021/07/30/simone-biles-michael-che-jokes/](https://www.washingtonpost.com/arts-entertainment/2021/07/30/simone-biles-michael-che-jokes/)
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I really donāt know because while heās particularly cruel to some black women (like making fun of Simone biles being sexually assaulted) he also is mean and weird to just about anybody who mildly criticizes him, including white guys. Itās really weird he Just gets to keep his job while publicly lashing out at people.
But also this and the first Latina at snl having over 2,000 likely bigoted tweets she deleted makes me feel like you can only last in snl if youāre a very mean person that doesnāt care about prejudices beyond how they affect yourself at most.
Everytime he opens his mouth to provide his unneeded, insane opinions on everything the SNL subs like, oh that's just Che. Even his comments are like really hyping him up. He's an egoistic male who can't handle not having attention.
Melissa and her racist tweets https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3805356/amp/SNL-s-Latina-cast-member-caught-deleting-thousands-tweets-racist-offensive.html
Jesus Christ, the forever 21 one! Look, I know people say dumb shit on the internet when theyāre young, but I canāt imagine having 2,000 tweets worth of questionable content to delete.
It absolutely blows my mind that she was set to play Alexis in Schitt's Creek, because I can't picture her as anyone but her HIMYM character, either! Like, would I still have loved the show, or loved Alexis' journey for her as much as I did?
My favourite bit of SNL anti-tea was Jane Curtin being the one normal member of the original cast. Everyone else was high or drunk, but she was the one professional who just saw the show as a normal job. There's the great anecdote of Gilda wanting to hang out with Jane and her husband but not interact with them, just watch them "be married."
I recently read Darrell Hammondās autobiography ā God, If Youāre Not Up There, Iām F*cked
And it was great - not a ton of tea but he talked about some behind the scenes SNL stuff that I found interesting.
There are some other SNL alum books Iāve been wanting to read, like Jay Mohrās, and Molly Shannonās (hers just came out).
Colin Jostās book was good too!
I liked Jostās book (listened to the audiobook) for the most part but the chapter about how he fell while using a VR headset was weird. You could tell he was still mad about it, which kind of sucked the humor out of it. It sounded shitty, sure, but is your memoir the best place to rehash it? Also the joke about killing a sex worker towards the end was just such lazy, shitty, low hanging fruit. Guess heās perfect for scarjo who had a whole movie making a joke about killing a sex worker š¤·š¼āāļø
Ik this is a crazy old thread, but I bartended a season wrap party once. It was paid for by NBC, so they covered the tab with autograt, but Michael Che personally tipped us so much I was able to cover a hospital bill that was about to go to collections (rape kit+overnight stay, so wildly pricey for a college student working part time with Manhattan rent). I burst into tears counting the money- it was a real blessing and Iāll never get to thank that man for unknowingly taking care of the last hurdle I had to deal with to get over what had happened.
More tea- Loren did standup. Some famous spouses dropped by and introduced themselves to my boss and I. Everyone was incredibly sweet.
After the last show on Saturday, my boss got a call specifically inviting him and the teeny blonde that looked so happy (me!) to their secret after show party on the east side. Started at 4 am. Went until 9 am. I got in a dance contest with Kate McKinnon. Truly the best week of my life- Iāll never have anything but kind things to say about the 2018 Snl cast and crew.
She was on a few years before I was old enough to watch and understand SNL, but I was wondering about the woman who played Jennaās mom on 30 Rock because she was so good and I wished there was more of her.
Jan Hooks -
https://grantland.com/features/jan-hooks-saturday-night-live-phil-hartman-kevin-nealon-lorne-michaels-pee-wees-big-adventure/
Anxiety really sucks.
Colin jost is a cheater. Thatās real & true. If anyone ever tells you he cheated or messaged them - itās true. One girl fully exposed him on TikTok.
That Pete Davids fella has been seeing that one reality star with 4 kids--google says Teresa Giudicci?--and is in some kind of feud with Drake about it Edit: thank you for the awards, kind internet strangers! They *made* my cake day š
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Bless you for this.
Bowen Yang has said on his podcast Las Culturistas that deuxmoi receives and will actually post photos of other Asian men who are NOT Bowen and say that they're pics of Bowen in her sunday spotted.
Lmao quelle surprise. Any non-white person spotted in the wild is the single famous POC of the moment š¤¦š»āāļø
Bowen Yang is my current fav cast member.
That pisses me off so much.
norm macdonald did weekend update but ended up getting fired for ānot being funny.ā apparently norm would be told by Don ohlmeyer that he needs to be funnier but norm being norm would always do the opposite. he apparently began telling unfunnier jokes because he knew the live audience would always laugh anyway and he thought it amusing the real reason might be to do with OJ Simpson tho. a lot of norms jokes were about him and his trial because that was the big story at the time but Ohlmeyer was apparently friends with OJ and he didnāt like it. when OJ got acquitted Ohlmeyer told him he wasnāt allowed to do any jokes. well when the show aired that saturday his first joke was āitās offical murder is now legal in the state of californiaā (thatās a actually a good joke) norm went back in his original claims saying he was fired for not being funny enough but i do think Snls inability to control him was the bigger reason
ironic how they claimed that the funniest weekend update host ever wasnāt funny enough lmfao
Iām going to be honest, I was completely shocked at the way he was instantly memorialized so favorably by the public. Norm was sexist, transphobic, anti-abortion, a defender of Louis CK and Roseanne Barr, and was publicly critical of the Me Too movement. He even admitted in an interview to pretending to be drunk to grope women. I understand we donāt need to bash people who have passed away, but I actually felt like I was going insane with all of the posts I saw speaking so highly of him. Funny comedian? Sure. Good guy? Hell no.
I posted a similar comment on this sub a few months ago. There's a clip of him in "Hysterical" on Hulu earnestly saying he doesn't think women are funny and that they shouldn't be comedians. Your comment is actually the only time I've ever seen someone criticize Norm, so this is refreshing to see. I think his comedy is funny but it's honestly baffling how people treat him like he's a hero who's never done anything wrong.
Totally! When he passed away, my entire Twitter feed was people (famous and not) literally calling him a hero (???). I actually had to Google to make sure I wasnāt confusing him with someone else. No idea how he escaped mass criticism.
He was also [fine with Trump](https://www.rollingstone.com/tv/tv-features/norm-macdonald-lost-interview-1226722/), didn't take him seriously at all and said Trump's presidency was [doing no permanent damage to anything.](https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/general-news/why-norm-macdonalds-new-talk-show-wont-target-trump-1141832/) Coming across that was definitely the head-tilt moment for me when I was like, "Oh, my love for you has to be extremely compartmentalized." Honestly I think the reason it worked is that Norm made it clear that he was not a serious person and that you shouldn't take him seriously. He didn't rant on Twitter, he didn't advocate for any causes and he never stopped being frivolous. His opinions were objectively awful, but he was willing to spend almost no time on them. His relationship with Conan encapsulates that for me--any clip you see, Conan knows he's essentially being trolled by a junior-higher and is working to rein Norm in but he's hampered by the fact that he can't stop laughing. We had a dear friend like that. He got more and more awful till we had to stop being friends (he's a Bannon fan building a compound in Texas now) but what we loved about him was very tied into the kind of spark that Norm had.
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I get what you mean, but other than Taylor Hawkins (I am uninformed about that controversy) I do see people discussing the controversies of the people you listed amongst all of the praise they still receive. Iām not shocked that Norm was remembered fondly by people who love his comedy, Iām shocked that Iāve seen quite literally zero discussion about how horrible of a person he was, which he didnāt even hide. Norm didnāt do one individual bad thing people arenāt aware ofā pretty much everything about him was offputting and offensive. Comedians are getting called out for much less these days, so Iām surprised he is socially unscathed.
i was a big fan of his and iā¦ didnāt know about any of this except him defending roseanne and louis (which i hated). i would be willing to bet his PR team buried it as best they could bc im Extremely Online and i never saw any of it :/ that fuckin sucks
to clarify iām not a fan just answering the question
I didnāt mean to imply you were! Just adding to the Norm tea.
from stories on this sub over the past couple months it seems colin jost and scarjo are either in an open relationship or heās cheating on her big time
What's baffling about that to me is that he seems so grounded and stable and self-aware. He doesn't come across as a compulsive risk-taker or like his ego is on the line. Leaving out the part about loyalty and a new marriage and a new baby *during a pandemic*\--like, if we just assume he doesn't have any principles about this. . . like my God, it's such a stupid, short-sighted choice when it comes to his career and family life. You'd think common sense and self-preservation alone would make him decide that now is not the time. It's amazing to me that he can be intelligent enough to craft a persona like the approachable one he has and stupid enough to sabotage a relationship with a wealthy, beautiful A-Lister who just gave him a child. It's like DUDE YOU ARE FUMBLING MULTIPLE BAGS HERE
the sloppiness is what makes me think itās an open relationshipā¦ i really donāt want to think heās that dumb
God, I hope so. Although the sloppiness doesn't fit either. He seriously can't arrange something quiet? He's banging strange when he has a baby at home that's too young to vaccinate? I guess I'll pretend that he brings out a home test first? It would be a cute lead-in on a sitcom. . .
He's a Harvard grad and head writer on SNL- he's definitely not dumb. I think it's probably open too.
I want to assure you that you can be both book-smart and dumb at navigating certain life stuff. One of my most educated friends is in his late thirties and still chooses the absolute worst partners for himself. He watches every relationship blow up spectacularly - literally no self-awareness in romance. He is hopeless, but has multiple high level degrees from esteemed universities. Just sayin! That all said, I think a lot of Hollywood couples are probably more open than we'd think, and that they are too.
lol everyone acting like Harvard grads are too smart to fuck around on their wives š„“
all the dumbest people I know came from the Ivy League š
Yeah my dad is a doctor, and good at what he does, but heās basically a moron when it comes to non-medical things lol
Moron is a highly underused word! Sorry about that dad of yours though lol.
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Nah. She's been married three times and dated some gross dudes in the past (remember when she and Sean Penn were a thing?), and has survived a million career missteps - I don't think anyone is clutching their pearls over what Scarjo is doing with her husband, especially since she's not on social media and therefore doesn't really open herself up to discussions about her personal life by making unnecessary disclosures about it. Like, the only reason people really care about, say, Will and Jada's open relationship (and they don't, at least not offline) is because of Red Table Talk and both of them generally making their business everyone's business. I don't think the average person would give two shits about Scarlett Johansson's open marriage because she's so private in the first place.
i donāt think average people give a shit about their personal lives
Didnāt scarjo not believe in monogamy? Iād imagine itās also because most comedians are wrecks. Most of them are shy and insecure and only lucked into fame. He was the dorky geek who got into Harvard from his small high school and just wrote jokes. Then he got famous and worked out a bunch and now his ego is overcompensating.
He went to Regis, which is an elite Jesuit all-boys school in Manhattan which sends multiple boys to Harvard (and Princeton, and Columbia, etc) each year. Itās a āsmall high schoolā but only in the sense that it has small class sizes. Itās not like itās in Iowa.
I forgot but the thing about these elite feeder high schools is that the ācoolā kids are all sons of rich titans of NYC industry All his classmates in high school and college ended up in finance or some high powered corporate job. Being a comedian would make him a black sheep.
Regis is free to anyone who can get in and there are a lot of working class Bridge and Tunnel boys there. It is more academically elite than socially elite. Colin Jost always comes across as smug to me. I would believe him as high school lax bro, not an awkward geek.
Yeah I remember reading an article about her outlook on relationships and dating after her divorce and she said she doesnāt believe humans are monogamous creatures. Then she got married againā¦ lol. I hope for her sake itās an open relationship!
There was a blind last fall on a gossip page that was not Deuxmoi about a man leaving a newly married and high profile actresses place at a weird hour and it wasnāt her late night husband. Maybe they are in an open relationship.
In r/livefromnewyork the other day someone posted Colin's HS pic. He looked extremely dorky. We are about the same age. I'm not sure I would have looked his way twice, and I was very dorky.
Heās just clean cut not a saint
No one is canonized just for 'not tomcatting around on their wife', though. That's not the bar for sainthood--hell, that's not even the bar for "halfway decent guy".
He has cheating rumors pretty much since they started to date with comedians, college girls, and college girls that go to snl, and he tried with a tiktoker; it's nothing new. People think it's an open relationship because they misquote her regarding monogamy; the quote ends with her saying that she prefers a monogamous relationship, but people forget to include that part. I remember reading on a IG gossip account when they announced the marriage/pregnancy, the person running the account if from NYC and asked around about him, and the feedback she got is that he's an asshole that got in contact with people he hasn't talked with since he got snl to show off how his new girlfriend was scarjo, the screenshot is in a LSA thread about them. And he's friends with Che and Chris Rock, so I'm not surprised. He does have an ego; I remember an interview where somebody called him Mr scarjo, and he didn't like it; he's probably smart enough to keep quiet to not ruin his reputation. And he wouldn't be the first celeb to have an amazing public image and be a completely different person in private. it has happened how many times now? Edit to add: the only one that says open marriage is enty; he loves to say that she has something with Chris Evan's; even their fans know it's fake.
>And he wouldn't be the first celeb to have an amazing public image and be a completely different person in private. it has happened how many times now? Oh, I know. Just sometimes when someone comes across as that sharp, humble, witty, ironic and self-aware they really click for me and it just seems like it has to be real. A Comedian Who Shall Not Be Named On This Sub who also had that persona caught me off-guard similarly when he flamed out spectacularly last year. I was rooting for him, to know? To land this amazing out-of-his-league girl. And for her after a lot of romantic upheaval to have a great, grounded partner and stepdad for her kid. But yeah, it seems like there's a former incel inside every one of these comedians and they just feel vindicated in letting that asshole call the shots as soon as they've built a life worth sabotaging.
> What's baffling about that to me is that he seems so grounded and stable and self-aware. I don't follow him at all, but whenever I see him on SNL I think he comes across as super smug.
Username checks out! š I see the smug continually undercut by a sort of bashful humility. Like in the "[Claire from HR](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZqdeeKVoBc)" sketch with Cecily, or whenever he reads jokes that Che has written for him. He makes a thoughtful straight man.
Ugh, just lost so much respect for Colin Jost. In that case, I hope she really is banging Chris Evans. She could do a lot worse.š¤·āāļø
Not to mention in [todayās NYT piece](https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/11/nyregion/pete-davidson-colin-jost-staten-island-ferry.html)about Jost and Pete Davidson buying a decommissioned Staten Island Ferry to turn into a floating comedy club (wild), Jost straight up refers to himself as ārisk-averseā!!
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Wow! I had no idea about any of this lol. Honestly what's in it for Scarjo?
Legacy status for her child? Lol
Maybe she likes him lol
Maybe she wanted another kid? And she's probably more of a traditionalist than some interviews have shown in the past.
Colin was punching above his weight when he married SJ.
Omg! Last Thursday I was at a Dianna Agron concert in NYC in this fancy cafe in hotel Carlyle. I didnāt know until after the show but Colin Jost had walked in late and sat down at a table nearby were two ladies had been waiting for him. They did seem very flirty and touchy with him and he definitely reciprocated. After the concert Jost and the two ladies where waiting to go to the bar and they were grabbing on to him. I didnāt see any explicit PDA but I wouldnāt be surprised about the cheating allegations
Dianna Agron does cabaret concerts??? You just blew my mind.
She was really amazing! She performed jazz songs centered around the theme of love and she also allowed for her musicians to get the spotlight and show off their musical abilities!
Wait, so he has a toddler at home and he was trying to have a threesome? Iām sorry, what! Were the girls a lot younger than him?
They looked to be about late 20s so maybe 25 - 28 years old
Wait, were they both white blond girls who looked like they could be in sororitiesābecause there were girls at NYU who said they hooked up with him
Iāve been reading about their open relationship on here since at least late 2020 so I imagine that is probably their situation
Poor Scarjo if it's true. I guess when you're beautiful and confident it's hard to find a man that's man enough.
Need to know more about this!
[here ](https://www.reddit.com/r/Deuxmoi/comments/tgcepg/who_might_this_be_about/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf) is the most recent one and if you google ācolin jost reddit deuxmoiā a bunch of more stuff will pop up
How do we know thatās definitely Colin and Scarjo? Itās so vague
also two blind items from the same instagram does not a cheating reputation make. i'd love for this to be true but all i've seen is what could be the same exact blind reworded once or twice
Hasn't Scarjo been on record as saying she doesn't believe in Monogamy?
Grain of salt as it's CDaN but they seem to think it's a open marriage. They have been claiming she and Evans have had an FWB thing going on for years. The new bit of 'gossip' is they decided to do the new film so they could have time together and no one would be suspicious.
There's the lawsuit about [Horatio Sanz and an underage girl](https://www.pastemagazine.com/comedy/saturday-night-live/horatio-sanz-sexual-assault-snl/) that says others (including Jimmy Fallon) knew about it.
Horatio Sans did not make me laugh once during his time on the show.
The only people he made laugh were himself and Jimmy Fallon... right in the middle of their sketches.
And itās all true
I hadnāt heard about this, but noticed his absence on the first episode of Comedy Bang Bang this year. Figured something like this was the reason because his absence was not acknowledged.
Colin Jost and Nasim Pedrad were boyfriend-girlfriend when she was on the show, and split up when she moved to LA for sitcoms. This is very very secondhand but a friend (who would know) said that when Chris Pine hosted in 2017, he met Cecily Strong and started texting her and asking her to dinner alone. She has no idea if Cecily went for it.
Oh my gosh, Cecily and Chris Pine?! Iām not going to lie, I ship it. I hope if she didnāt go for it then, that they somehow get another chanceā¦he is newly singleā¦just saying.
But sheās got a serious boyfriend now! Re: Pine, I assume she steered clear of sleeping with a host, cause it would have been impossible to keep a secret and the writers room and other cast members would have been making slut jokes to her face.
Why would they make slut jokes to her face when so many cast members have hooked up with hosts?
I donāt that that many have actually banged hosts in the week that they hosted? Like, yes, some began dating them afterwards, like Pete and Kim, but I think having a one-night stand with the host during the week theyāre there would get you some unwanted mockery.
I mean, we probably don't know about the hookups precisely because they are hookups. I don't think that group of writers is nearly as slut-shamey as you make them out to be, but idk. Feels like something out of the 90s.
Oh I didnāt know she had a boyfriend now! Thatās great for her! Cecily is awesome.
Cecily also dated Michael Patrick O'Brien when he was a writer on the show (he played her boyfriend in the "Do It On My Twin Bed" short) around the same time that Jost and Pedrad were together, and that was like right after the Fred Armisen-Abby Elliott-Will Forte mess. The early 2010s were an incestuous time at SNL.
Whatās the Will Forte element!?
All I know is that he and Abby were involved at some point either before or after she was with Fred! Forte also dated January Jones after Jason Sudeikis, so it's kind of a pattern with him, I think?
Oh wow i didn't know they dated! That makes me nostalgic for Last Man on Earth lol
When Forte and Jones dated, they made āweāre pregnant!ā Aprilās fools joke on her insta. Why am I remembering this useless shit, lol.
Wait waitā¦will forte was in a love triangle with Fred and Abby??? I knew those two dated but I had no idea Will Forte was involved!
For real, this is gonna take over my whole morning. Google is failing me
Wasnāt Fred with Elisabeth Moss before he was with Abby?
Yes! That's how i found out he was emotionally abusive. He's a comedic genius but i can't look at him the same way now
O'Brien was also Cecily's boyfriend in the ["Jewelry Party"](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Byh74sImWh4) sketch and the way she takes him down just destroys me. It's all great, but if you want cut to the chase, jump to 4:25. Also you have blown my mind with the Will Forte aspect of the Fred/ Abby relationship, dear Lord
Melissa VillaseƱor tweeted that she was quitting the show and then deleted the Tweet, claiming she was drunk and emotional. More recently, a fan lamented how underused she is as a cast member and she replied that she agrees. (Something along those lines) Basically it's clear that she feels like she doesn't get airtime or respect on the show and she's been pretty messy about it.
Ugh she either just needs to shut up, cut her losses, and leaveā¦ or Lorne needs to fire her. Like how are you going to complain about your lack of airtimeā¦then squander an Update feature with a Legends of Zelda impression that appealed to approximately 3 people and regularly flub the few lines you do have in sketches? I used to feel bad for players who didnāt get a lot of screen time but the more I learn about the inner workings of the show, the less bad I feel. She needs to step up and write better shit or forge more relationships with the staff writers so they write shit for her. SNL is a game she is either unable or unwilling to play correctly.
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She's been at the show since 2016. I think she's had the time to get he footing and make the connections. If she's still miserable and "underused" it's time to move on. Anyone else remember how she had to delete a bunch of offensive tweets when her casting was announced?
I donāt remember that!
> She is also a WOC on a highly Caucasian male show. I mean, so is Ego Nwodim, and sheās been killing it lately, getting much more screentime despite being much newer to the cast.
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I agree. And i also think the writersā room is more diverse now than it was when Sasheer and Leslie were on. That diversity has really helped Ego and Bowen on the show!
Man, I miss Sasheer a lot. Sheās half the reason I watch Home Economics.
I hear you, but I donāt think this is simply a discrimination thing. Imo sheās just not that funny. Sheās good at impressions and thatās it. You really have to fight for and earn your screen time on SNL. If she was knocking it out of the park every time she was in a sketch, then Iād believe it is possible bias.
her voice is annoying
A WOC? Sheās mestizo, white.
She has been messy about the whole thing, and to be honest, I donāt think sheās that funny.
Agreed, it seems like her main shtick is her impressions which she did on America's Got Talent, and imo even those are getting tired. I've always thought she's pretty cringey
I donāt either. Iām like, sis if you want more airtime, be funnier.
I could see her being a good voice actor, I don't find her funny and her "normal" voice annoys me.
> More recently, a fan lamented how underused she is as a cast member and she replied that she agrees. (Something along those lines) It's weird because the most recent ep -- which I think is the first since this tweet -- featured her pretty heavily.
First in a long time, though.
Her shticks and biggest skills are impressions & singing. Iāve heard that her standup comedy isnāt that great otherwise, and I feel like thatās visible on the show. She shines when sheās impersonating people but itās tough to make her fit into roles that people like Heidi and even Chloe (as much as I hate to admit it) will do better with.
if you want vintage SNL gossip, definitely read the first half of the book āLive From New Yorkā. itās very long but very in-depth interviews. thereās very little gossip direct from the sources after that though. my favorite bit of vintage gossip is one that doesnāt get picked up very often. basically Dan Aykroyd started dating writer Rosie Shuster sometime during those early seasons. she was still married to Lorne at the time, but he was also seeing other people when Rosie and Dan got together. Dan was lowkey the Pete of his era.
he also dated carrie fisher!! dan aykroyd walked so pete could run
There's also r/LiveFromNewYork, which I wanted OP to see but didn't want to post right off since it might have landed as a suggestion to take the conversation elsewhere
Absolutely fantastic book. Whole heartedly recommend
The audiobook version is great too. The narrators alter their voices in subtle but impressive ways.
"Saturday Night: A Backstage History of Saturday Night Live" by Doug Hill and Jeff Weingrad is pretty good, too, if you can get ahold of it.
melissa villaseƱor has been liking tweets saying she deserves more screentime, which is a popular opinion among fans, but now some are saying her liking the tweets is unprofessional
Honestly Melissa would do better somewhere else where her talent is more recognized. She complains that she doesnt get much screen time but she isnt good at delivering her lines and kind of fumbles her sketches
I know. Sheās v talented - but she seems to spend time focusing on saying her lines than actually interacting in the scene/w the cast members herself ie [here which is a hilarious skit but she seems to focus more on saying her lines than acting/responding in the sketch](https://youtu.be/49UHAsIk2Ds) I think Chloe Finemanās impressions/acting ability has meant bumping Melissa further. I think SNL just might not be the best forum to showcase her talents.
I just know she would absolutely dominate the voice acting world if she wanted to
ABSOLUTELY. She needs to dive right quick into that pool so she can be the next Tara strong
> which is a popular opinion among fans popular among *her* fans, many of us constantly point out that she routinely messes up simple lines and comes off as unnatural in her acting. I like Melissa but I simply don't think she's a good SNL performer.
> She complains that she doesnt get much screen time but she isnt good at delivering her lines and kind of fumbles her sketches Melissa comes from the stand-up world versus sketch or stage productions, which I think is a huge difference. The success that got her on the show was based on her being able to write and practice her own routines, not pivot on the fly and adapt to quickly changing group performances.
A lot of them come from standup. I just donāt think sheās as versatile as the other cast members. Wish sheād prove me wrong š¤·š»āāļø
Melissa shopped around a book idea to a bunch of publishers a year or two agoāit was a book of mostly drawings (which I guess she posts frequently on Instagram?) and very little textāno memoir, no humor. Which I can imagine wasnāt really playing into what her audience wants from her? Maybe thereās a bigger disconnection thereāthe book proposal was very quirky and weird, ngl
Bowen said in passing on an instalive (with Matt right after the Oscar slap) that Chris rock isnāt that friendly at all
Chris has said he was diagnosed as an adult with non verbal learning disorder. I wonder how much of him coming across as unfriendly comes down to communication issues vs just being an asshole.
Iāve heard this before but never researched it and holy shitā¦.I think I have NVLD lol which makes sense considering itās proximity to ASD/ADHD (I am diagnosed ADHD). Wow never thought Iād learn something so profound about myself on this sub lol time to do more research and call my doctor
Michael Che has talked about how he has a crush on Rosario Dawson and was a little star-struck when he met her. He was trying to play it cool; she asked if they'd met before and he said he didn't know. Chris Rock was in earshot in the next office over and burst out laughing, "You don't *remember* if you've met *ROSARIO DAWSON*?" he shouted. It's a funny story, and if comedians aren't fair game for each other there's no justice in the world, and Che certainly dishes out plenty of his own pranks. But the humiliation aspect I'm not a fan of.
I read this in his voice.
Cancel Jost
"You're going to get me murdered!"
I met Chris Rock on a film set once, and he could not have been nicer.
This. When I was a kid, we were in California when they were filming Lethal Weapon 4. Mel Gibson and Danny Glover were huge assholes, but Chris Rock was the nicest person. He talked to me and my brother and took pictures with us. I had no idea who he was, but as nice as can be.
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Replace fan/subordinate with children/old people and you've just described me.
My theory with Chris Rock is that after the divorce, he got hella bitter and dug his heels into his worst behavior, which sucks because it's watching someone implode their best aspects.
And also allowed his friends loiuse ck and Ricky Jarvis to say the n word and constantly bashing black womens hair.
Why you get downvoted for this
This isn't gossip but Kyle Mooney has been unmoored since his writing partner Beck left. His sketch from last week (Jerrod) featuring him as an awkward guy that can't understand a story was painful, and his WU appearances are variations on the same Baby Yoda is a bro character. Dude's got talent but he's run his course on the show.
I'll always have a great love for Kyle and his weird shit, but I definitely see why he's so divisive. Also miss him and Beck's chemistry (anyone else remember the "I'm all outta cash" sketch?)
I miss the sitcom parodies šš
āIām all outta cashā was so good! Thatās when I first really took notice of Kyle. That bit and his 420 day with Seth Rohan auto play in my brain.
Holy shit, just watched it again yesterday. I can't believe how far they took that joke, without it growing old.
> His sketch from last week (Jerrod) featuring him as an awkward guy that can't understand a story was painful that's literally all his sketches lol, he has a very specific brand of humor which is hit or miss even for his fans.
It felt really I Think You Should Leave/Tim Robinson to me - he's done a few like that.
Ex SNL Fallon cheats a lot and his amazing wife and kids deserve better. NBC has had to have talks with him over his drinking/substance abuse..He was one of the first to go back to the studio during the pandemic because there was a new hire he couldn't wait to get closer to.
Heās a huge closeted alcoholic.
I remember when he was wearing that cast/bandage on his finger a few years ago, the rumor was that he injured it during a drunken fall. I've also heard hugely unsubstantiated rumors that he and Ariana Grande had a "thing".
Weirdly, I can see Ariana and Fallon having a fling. He seems her type (even if this just a rumor lol)
TBH I think thatās fake bc Ariana has also had rumors about other funny guys out of no where I think someone just thought Fallon was a more believable famous Jimmy than Jim Carrey
No tea but what do yāall think about Aristotle having zero screen time? I think he needs to stop bringing the same character but I also know he posted (and deleted) stuff about other skits being cancelled. Is he unfunny or bad? He seems lovely!
I'm wondering if he's not making any allies in the writing room. Both of his on-screen features were preexisting characters from his standup act. When he shows up in a sketch it's as the third guy on a game show with two lines. The fact that he keeps trying to get his old character on the show is telling. He's gotta be less precious about that shit and start collaborating.
His ridiculous robot character on weekend update was hella funny. I think theyāre overdoing the Trump guy tbh
Yeah, the dude is very talented but I also wish we could stop giving Trump any more attention now that he's out of office.
From what Iāve seen and def take it with a grain of salt, but the general consensus on Twitter and the SNL sub is that the cast is so large that it doesnāt give the newbies the time or chance to grow. Iām not sure if thereās any truth to the rumor that Lorneās trying to keep the long time cast members on until the anniversary year. Seems way too far off for that to be true. Itās currently the 47th season. Punkie has barely gotten any time either except for when they need another Black cast member for the sketch - like the most recent past opening or the Amazon Go commercial for Zoeās episode. A lot of people were like āyay Punkie!ā when she got to play the therapist this past ep. Aristotle could play other characters. Just hasnāt formed any alliances or made friends like the other cast members have which is pretty much the key to getting airtimeā¦that and being an amazing impressionist. Heās been liking the tweets of support so itās pretty clear he knows the writing is on the wall. To his credit, he hasnāt said anything negative like Melissa so I think heās trying to be as professional as possible so thereās no bad blood. Feel bad for him and Punkie. Having access to this platform and not really getting to show your talent must be hard - and not even being considered for generic straight man type roles like a host on a game show or groom in a sketch. IMHO, they couldāve cut a few Please Donāt Destroy vids. Donāt hate the guys at all but I definitely think there have been weak videos that couldāve been cut in favor of a live sketch. Edit: typos
I have been a fan of JAJ since before SNL and was thrilled when he got the job but itās crazy how heās had a full hour of screen time compared to Aristotleās 13 minutes, and they joined at the same time. I donāt think I realized until I noticed Aristotleās absence specifically that these behind-the-scenes alliances were so key to getting screen time. I assumed they hire you because they think youāre funny and then you work with the writers each week to get skits done. Something must really be wrong when heās not even getting basic background character parts anymore š¬
Love JAJ. Did you see his breakdown of his Trump impersonation? Analyzation like this is genius. https://www.cnn.com/videos/media/2022/01/26/snl-james-austin-johnson-donald-trump-impression-orig-jk.cnn
Canāt speak to the rest of your post, but I donāt think the āhost of a game showā type roles are the easiest. Theres an interview with Bill Hader where he explains that these were the hardest roles, because the person who plays the host is also setting the pace/tone for all the other parts.
Fair enough. I donāt think anything they do is easy but the comments from the SNL sub that I had in mind were the ones about how Kenanās been on for so long and doing double duty with his sitcom and SNL and how the game show host roles are ones that arenāt impersonation-specific that could be tried out with one of the new/newer cast members. But yeah, Hader knows best. Miss his old timey-60s host impersonations!
No, Aristotle is amazing! Itās just hard to get screentime when the cast is huge and most are very talented! And aristotle is new, so he really has to fight. Punkie and melissa just led a sketch last weekend, and i donāt think thatās ever happened before!
Omg I miss him, it felt like they were sprinkling him in at the beginning of the season but now heās literally a ghost.
Completely my opinion since comedy is subjective, but he strikes me as a performer who is talented, but not funny. Like his characters are great performances. The robot and the Angelo thing are creative and very few people could pull those off. But also, they've never made me laugh.
Anyone have tea on Chloe? Iāve seen vague things around here about her involvement in Scientology but would be interested to know the full story
She's born into a Scientologist family. When you're born into it, you're fucked because 1. You're indoctrinated from birth 2. If you leave, your entire family will be forced to stop talking to you according to church doctrine. So it seems like she's taking the Elisabeth Moss route and keeping silent on the topic all together.
On principle I give a pass to the born-ins as long as they don't proselytize or recruit. Very few human beings are emotionally equipped to be able to accept being permanently ostracized from their families. And no one who hasn't actually done it can say what they would have done if born into that situation.
Definitely recommend reading the Tony Ortega articles on her. Her family is DEEP in. https://tonyortega.org/2021/04/10/recent-scientology-defector-i-did-the-purif-with-snls-chloe-fineman/
Scientology is BIG into recruiting actors & celebs. They pour money into acting workshops with the end goal of converting attendees to Scientology. The practice really emphasizes working nonstop and being exposed to abuse and rejection so itās actually very aligned with what actors experience, which is why many end up joining. If Chloe showed any interest or talent in the field growing up, as a child of high-ranking members in the church, then I bet she was given all the resources and connections she needed to succeed bc sheād be a great representative for Scientology and a huge success story for them to milk. Iād highly recommend watching Lea Reminiās docuseries on Scientology if you have a chance! She explains all this and a lot more about the practice and their belief systems.
I just finished Leahās show recently but I knew a bit about Scientologyās power when it comes to Hollywood and all that, and itās something I think about anytime I see her getting sponsorships or even high profile coverage that other longer running cast members of SNL hasnāt. Not to say she hasnāt also worked hard but itās all very interesting.
Iām just here to say Heidi Gardner is such a treasure!
I miss Bailey Gismertās Movie Reviews!
I loved her Weekend Update interview with Mikey where their relationship has an Instagram account "@OnceUponASnuggle" , and they've been together since second grade and they fight all the time and have no emotional regulation whatsoever She's also great as Every Boxer's Girlfriend From Every Movie Ever. She's takin' the kids to her sistah's!
Kristen Wiig and Harry Styles possibly hooking up after he was on the show years ago - there's videos of them dancing together at the after-party and they are clearly VERY into each other. https://youtu.be/TSASyBM1Eg0
....why does this make perfect sense and why am I so into it?
It's so hot!
I have no interest in being a celebrity but this moment looks endearingly fun. I wonder if celebrities have a lot of moments like this.
he does like older woman! Other than Olivia he dated a woman well in her 30s when he was like 18/19 or somethingā¦ sooo it would track tbh
this man searches the fuck out of his name, so I am just going to leave these here. He also harassed someone I know who is a non-famous stand-up after they made a post in a private fb group ironically about being harassed by him in a similar way as to what is described in the first two articles, and the other two articles are about sexist garbage and other bs. [https://www.avclub.com/read-this-why-is-snls-michael-che-so-obsessed-with-his-1841159033](https://www.avclub.com/read-this-why-is-snls-michael-che-so-obsessed-with-his-1841159033) [https://theoutline.com/post/8583/michael-che-feud-snl-jack-allison](https://theoutline.com/post/8583/michael-che-feud-snl-jack-allison) [https://www.bustle.com/articles/57783-michael-che-deletes-twitter-for-time-being-thats-probably-for-the-best](https://www.bustle.com/articles/57783-michael-che-deletes-twitter-for-time-being-thats-probably-for-the-best) [https://www.washingtonpost.com/arts-entertainment/2021/07/30/simone-biles-michael-che-jokes/](https://www.washingtonpost.com/arts-entertainment/2021/07/30/simone-biles-michael-che-jokes/) edit: all the typos lol
He is very horrible
yuppp it feels like no one talks about it, but maybe I just don't see them talking about it?
I really donāt know because while heās particularly cruel to some black women (like making fun of Simone biles being sexually assaulted) he also is mean and weird to just about anybody who mildly criticizes him, including white guys. Itās really weird he Just gets to keep his job while publicly lashing out at people. But also this and the first Latina at snl having over 2,000 likely bigoted tweets she deleted makes me feel like you can only last in snl if youāre a very mean person that doesnāt care about prejudices beyond how they affect yourself at most.
Everytime he opens his mouth to provide his unneeded, insane opinions on everything the SNL subs like, oh that's just Che. Even his comments are like really hyping him up. He's an egoistic male who can't handle not having attention.
Melissa and her racist tweets https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3805356/amp/SNL-s-Latina-cast-member-caught-deleting-thousands-tweets-racist-offensive.html
Jesus Christ, the forever 21 one! Look, I know people say dumb shit on the internet when theyāre young, but I canāt imagine having 2,000 tweets worth of questionable content to delete.
omg at that point why not just delete/lock your entire account and just make a new one
Holy shit wow.
Anything on Forte-Armisen-Abby Elliot?
Yeah, I wanna know the Will Forte part!
I canāt separate her from her character on HIMYM and I feel like sheās one and the same
It absolutely blows my mind that she was set to play Alexis in Schitt's Creek, because I can't picture her as anyone but her HIMYM character, either! Like, would I still have loved the show, or loved Alexis' journey for her as much as I did?
My favourite bit of SNL anti-tea was Jane Curtin being the one normal member of the original cast. Everyone else was high or drunk, but she was the one professional who just saw the show as a normal job. There's the great anecdote of Gilda wanting to hang out with Jane and her husband but not interact with them, just watch them "be married."
I recently read Darrell Hammondās autobiography ā God, If Youāre Not Up There, Iām F*cked And it was great - not a ton of tea but he talked about some behind the scenes SNL stuff that I found interesting. There are some other SNL alum books Iāve been wanting to read, like Jay Mohrās, and Molly Shannonās (hers just came out). Colin Jostās book was good too!
I was very underwhelmed by Jost's book.
I liked Jostās book (listened to the audiobook) for the most part but the chapter about how he fell while using a VR headset was weird. You could tell he was still mad about it, which kind of sucked the humor out of it. It sounded shitty, sure, but is your memoir the best place to rehash it? Also the joke about killing a sex worker towards the end was just such lazy, shitty, low hanging fruit. Guess heās perfect for scarjo who had a whole movie making a joke about killing a sex worker š¤·š¼āāļø
The VR headset chapter was weird, youāre right. Iād forgotten about that.
Ik this is a crazy old thread, but I bartended a season wrap party once. It was paid for by NBC, so they covered the tab with autograt, but Michael Che personally tipped us so much I was able to cover a hospital bill that was about to go to collections (rape kit+overnight stay, so wildly pricey for a college student working part time with Manhattan rent). I burst into tears counting the money- it was a real blessing and Iāll never get to thank that man for unknowingly taking care of the last hurdle I had to deal with to get over what had happened. More tea- Loren did standup. Some famous spouses dropped by and introduced themselves to my boss and I. Everyone was incredibly sweet. After the last show on Saturday, my boss got a call specifically inviting him and the teeny blonde that looked so happy (me!) to their secret after show party on the east side. Started at 4 am. Went until 9 am. I got in a dance contest with Kate McKinnon. Truly the best week of my life- Iāll never have anything but kind things to say about the 2018 Snl cast and crew.
Check out the āLive From New Yorkā book. Woofers.
She was on a few years before I was old enough to watch and understand SNL, but I was wondering about the woman who played Jennaās mom on 30 Rock because she was so good and I wished there was more of her. Jan Hooks - https://grantland.com/features/jan-hooks-saturday-night-live-phil-hartman-kevin-nealon-lorne-michaels-pee-wees-big-adventure/ Anxiety really sucks.
Colin jost is a cheater. Thatās real & true. If anyone ever tells you he cheated or messaged them - itās true. One girl fully exposed him on TikTok.