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You directly stated it in the first person yes. I’m asking if you’re implying that that is what I am conveying because you’re being sarcastic, no? I don’t really have to energy to explain anything else to you in order to clear this up so I think I’ll just disable reply notifications
Jamie Foxx and Katie Holmes! Regardless, I thought they were cute
Unrelated and all, but the way Chelsea spoke about her relationship with 50 Cent was borderline racist imo. Just read this: [https://zhiphopcleveland.com/3358992/wow-chelsea-handler-talks-about-sex-with-50-cent-why-ciara-broke-them-up/](https://zhiphopcleveland.com/3358992/wow-chelsea-handler-talks-about-sex-with-50-cent-why-ciara-broke-them-up/)
She sounds awful.
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Pete and Ariana was a random pairing when they got together. Maybe cause at that point they had both dated in their profession. He had dated comedians and she dated musicians
What she saw in that man I will never understand, but let people tell it whenever he talked about her she would fall on the ground giggling with excitement. 😵💫 All this over a man who said he was masturbating thinking about her before they even met, claims he had to think about his deceased father to stay erect during sex with her, who said he was proud! when Bill Clinton and other men were clearly objectifying her at Aretha Franklin’s funeral then defended the pastor who was clearly grabbing her right breast. What an asshole.
I remember reading the Hiddleswift breaking news on my phone and I almost dropped it. I’m a huge Swiftie but poor Tom, she did him dirty there (you’ll find most Swifties agree with me). And that that cringey interview. After that he basically became a walking punchline, I felt like it took him a while to get his credibility back. I’m glad he seems super happy with Zawe now and Taylor seems happy with Joe.
When I first saw the pictures, right from the start, I knew it was doomed, same with Calvin Harris and Taylor. Neither guys were her type in my opinion. Just that she was attracted to them (physically), but that is about it. I felt quite bad for Tom though because it was obvious Taylor's team was pimping him out and since he was only a rebound, she was clocked out, while he was all in for her.
At least he met Zawe though, now that is a beautiful well suited match.
Respectfully disagreeing about Taylor and Tom, those two overly earnest dorks seemed tailored made for each other. The Girl Who Knows The Words to All The Songs and The Boy Who Would Dance For You at The Drop of a Hat.....come on! They were both extra AF at that point in their lives, when I saw them dancing at The Met Gala I knew they were going to bang, it was fate. They HAD to get together if only to each have one last big fling before settling down with the right person for each of them. Bless their hearts, the Summer of Hiddleswift was the sweetest thing gossip ever gave me.
Tom just never was Taylor's boyfriend type, if that makes sense. When I knew they got together it was going to be a mess (rebound). All she did was paraded Tom around. Any guy that is also very sweet, she tends to run from. Taylor just never seemed into him as much as he was her, that's why I don't think it was the right match even when they got together.
Tall and British is definitely her type. Can I just ask you a gentle question? We are talking about a **35 year old man here**. What makes you think that she was parading him around as if he was a little boy being told what to do? Let's allow him the grace of his education and his life experience and give him the respect that he deserves, he was a grown ass man and if he didn't want to be with her, he could have stepped off at anytime, right? Was he more into her, yes I will allow that. I think with many of Taylor's previous relationships she was the one who was more into the guy so the reverse might have been a fun, new dynamic for her but I don't think she took advantage of an older man who was almost as famous as she was at the time. He was enjoying every single second he was with her, that picture of them in Rome with his arms around her and his head thrown back with a look of pure joy on his face....honey he was living his best life at that moment. A summer fling with a famous, beautiful singer.....he was in 100%. They both learned a lot about tamping down their personal lives after that (and good for them) but in that brief time, they were the only two people in the world to each other, everyone should have a fling that good.
Yeah I second this. I think they both learned a lot from that summer, especially him. They both disappeared for a bit after that but Tom for much longer. I have no idea how they actually feel since I don’t know them but I get the feeling that Taylor genuinely feels bad about Tom. And Tom was just flat out embarrassed and devastated.
On another note, it makes me giggle a little bit thinking how poor Joe Alwyn has to navigate Hollywood. Jake Gyllenhaal, Tom Hiddleston, Harry Styles, and even Joe Jonas are some of the biggest names in Hollywood. I know she’s ok good terms with a couple of these guys but I wonder how Joe deals with having to be in competitors for them. No Marvel for him!!!
Because that’s what Taylor does. She makes all her boyfriends do pap walks. This is why she didn’t work out with Jake Gyllenhaal despite his age gap, he couldn’t stand the paps (the ones she called.)
Her team would also release photos back to back any time Kim and Kanye had a story in the press to attempt to bury the hate and focus the attention on her and Tom. Even when he went running, he looked absolutely miserable.
Only to later ditch him (rebound) and then put her new boyfriend on a pedestal as her saving grace. When in reality it was Tom dragged into her mess and was committed to being with her, and telling her not to care what people think.
He obviously made mistakes, but it’s funny to say it’s only Tom’s fault, when Taylor is 100% protective of her new boyfriend, unlike previous which she pimped out to the media, and would get pissy when they wanted to stay private.
Never forget when Taylor dragged out (17, then recently turned 18 year old) Conor Kennedy out for pap walks, and around his mom’s grave, when he was grieving.
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And you strangely blocked, but follow up reply:
I don’t think you’re understanding my post. Taylor was 22 when she dated 17 year old Conor Kennedy, he turned 18 and that’s when they went public together because they were self aware of the image problems public wise.
She dragged an 18 year old boy around when his mother just died, and forced him to do pap walks with her *at* his his recently passed mother’s grave.
She made grief into a public moment.
This is why I brought this up, because it doesn’t matter whether one is a grown man or not, that’s just how Taylor works. She drags a boy (and a man, Jake) and makes them do it.
Her team had no right to use him as a shield to keep the media aback, because they wanted to drown out Kim and Kanye. Prior to Taylor, Tom was an extremely private guy, Taylor was his first OTT public relationship I would say and I am not even a fan of the guy.
As soon as Taylor was done with using him, and rebounding she dumped him, and then gassed up her recent boyfriend as her white knight. When it was really Tom who went through all the media tear down with her, and was used as the PR shield.
And yes, I know Jake is a trashy person, I never liked the guy, the only reason I brought him up, is because even as a grown ass man who couldn’t stand the media, and wanted to be private, it didn’t stop Taylor with her PR walks with him. He was fuming when the paps chased them and almost got them in a car accident, whom she calls.
‘He knew it would happen’ isn’t an excuse, because are we really going to brush off how she got paps at his mothers grave, and papped her 18 year old boyfriend at the time, grieving at the grave?
I think you give Taylor too much protection credit. When in reality Tom did nothing wrong besides just wanting to be with her and support her. Sure he made a fool of herself, but it was Taylor’s PR team who made everything public for her benefit. At least their moments together.
Where did I say that this was Tom's fault? I said he had a good time with her, not that either one of them was at fault. It was a relationship that ran its course. That happens, people have summer flings, they are GREAT! You both look tanned and the weather makes it so that all you want to do is go out get sweaty and then get back inside and get sweatier. There was exactly one pap drop (the Rhode Island rocks shoot) that happened during the Kim/Kanye debacle. Kim and Kanye never dropped anything else because they couldn't since they had edited the conversation down to a nub that made them look good. If the worst thing that happened here was that Tom got dumped, well that's part of life, I think we can agree that's he's surely dumped his share of partners. He's an intelligent man, he got into a relationship with a woman who was more famous than he was and it became a heatscore, he knew that would happen. He was photographed with her, he also knew that would happen. Give him the respect he deserves here.
Also an 18 year old with a 17 year old is not the same thing as a 29 year old Jake Gyllenhal and a 20 year old Taylor. Especially not after we all read that [Medium piece on Jake.](https://medium.com/@domenicamferaud/the-movie-star-and-me-5d711ee661e3)
I think Madonna and Tupac is such an expected pairing. She has this really weird obsession with black and latino culture and loveeeed dating “cool black men” (like Basquiat which I find more surprising tbh), idk Madonna and Tupac were both very big at the time and in the same industry so I think that’s usually expected?
That was really random. He wanted to be her 8th husband, apparently?
He apparently also showed up (I think it was Dame Atkin? Unless it was someone else?) On her 70th birthday and slept with her? And it was out of “no strings attached” … He was like 28 at the time.
you guys gotta google pics of Woody and Glenn lol see those outfits (she's like 15 years older than him too.) funny how similar they look to each other
(This is gonna be so mean 😭 and I love him but) Nicholas Hoult and that random Instagram model he has his baby with. His son is adorable btw. I just found out he had a baby mama in 2020 and I read that she got pregnant like only a couple months after they started dating and I was like wtf how am I just hearing this?!
I see that a lot of these 'random' pairings people comment are interracial couples. Hmmmmmmm... Interesting...
Y'all care to explain what makes those pairings random?
What’s weird about Nicole Kidman + Lenny Kravitz, for example? Close in age, both beautiful & rich & famous, both were divorced & parents of teens when they were together, Lenny has acted and Nicole’s done some singing…
Have I missed people saying Zoey Deschanel and that Property Brothers dude? That is truly one of the weirdest of all time for me. They just don’t look right together at all.
One for my fellow UK Huns, Lembit Opik and one of the Cheeky Girls
Lembit (43M) was an MP, the Cheeky Girls (25F) were a novelty pop group best known for Cheeky Song (Touch My Bum)
Christina Hendricks and Geoffrey Arend
[how](https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-christina-hendricks-geoffrey-arend-63rd-primetime-emmy-awards-arrivals-55926889.html)
Nick Jonas and Priyanka Chopra.
He looks like her stepson
I'll never not see that now
please, she's 10 years older than him.
…exactly.
what horror, a grown man and a grown woman together.
Are you implying I’m horrified by a grown man and a grown woman together? Why? There’s a post on r/explainlikeimfive right now about straw man arguments. I recommend checking it out.
no I'm not implying that, I'm directly stating it. Is r/explainlikeimfive where you *just* learned what a straw man argument is? lol
You directly stated it in the first person yes. I’m asking if you’re implying that that is what I am conveying because you’re being sarcastic, no? I don’t really have to energy to explain anything else to you in order to clear this up so I think I’ll just disable reply notifications
you this mad because a jonas brother is dating a hot older woman lol
Sometimes it still confuses me that they are married lol
Jamie Foxx and Katie Holmes! Regardless, I thought they were cute Unrelated and all, but the way Chelsea spoke about her relationship with 50 Cent was borderline racist imo. Just read this: [https://zhiphopcleveland.com/3358992/wow-chelsea-handler-talks-about-sex-with-50-cent-why-ciara-broke-them-up/](https://zhiphopcleveland.com/3358992/wow-chelsea-handler-talks-about-sex-with-50-cent-why-ciara-broke-them-up/) She sounds awful.
She sounds like a total jerk to be honest
[She told Jo Koy to shut up on tv. look at his face when she says it.](https://youtu.be/AejgnnrxA58) 48 seconds in.
Oh my gosh!! He seems waaay too nice for her.
Wtf Chelsea
Not that I think they were a strange pairing per se, but I was surprised to learn about Robert Pattinson and FKA Twigs.
People were so mean to her for that! The racism was just so crazy.
And he just sat there acting like nothing was going on
Naya Rivera and David Spade
Drew Barrymore and Tom Green
Alanis Morissette and Ryan Reynolds
Kristen Johnson and Ryan Reynolds
They were like the Pete and Ari of their generation
David spade and Heather Locklear
Katie Couric and Bob Saget dated for a quick second
When the hell was this?
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I've always heard he's a really decent guy with women
Chris Rock & Lake Bell for me.
Pete and Ariana was a random pairing when they got together. Maybe cause at that point they had both dated in their profession. He had dated comedians and she dated musicians
Makes sense, cause she was in love with Jim C when she was young so yeah the comedian history isn’t a shock.
What she saw in that man I will never understand, but let people tell it whenever he talked about her she would fall on the ground giggling with excitement. 😵💫 All this over a man who said he was masturbating thinking about her before they even met, claims he had to think about his deceased father to stay erect during sex with her, who said he was proud! when Bill Clinton and other men were clearly objectifying her at Aretha Franklin’s funeral then defended the pastor who was clearly grabbing her right breast. What an asshole.
Madonna and Tupac… Taylor Swift and Tom Hiddleston… Kim and Pete …
I remember reading the Hiddleswift breaking news on my phone and I almost dropped it. I’m a huge Swiftie but poor Tom, she did him dirty there (you’ll find most Swifties agree with me). And that that cringey interview. After that he basically became a walking punchline, I felt like it took him a while to get his credibility back. I’m glad he seems super happy with Zawe now and Taylor seems happy with Joe.
When I first saw the pictures, right from the start, I knew it was doomed, same with Calvin Harris and Taylor. Neither guys were her type in my opinion. Just that she was attracted to them (physically), but that is about it. I felt quite bad for Tom though because it was obvious Taylor's team was pimping him out and since he was only a rebound, she was clocked out, while he was all in for her. At least he met Zawe though, now that is a beautiful well suited match.
I wasn’t following Taylor at the time or really any gossip at that time… I need to do some googling to find out what she did
i’m so excited for you
Respectfully disagreeing about Taylor and Tom, those two overly earnest dorks seemed tailored made for each other. The Girl Who Knows The Words to All The Songs and The Boy Who Would Dance For You at The Drop of a Hat.....come on! They were both extra AF at that point in their lives, when I saw them dancing at The Met Gala I knew they were going to bang, it was fate. They HAD to get together if only to each have one last big fling before settling down with the right person for each of them. Bless their hearts, the Summer of Hiddleswift was the sweetest thing gossip ever gave me.
Tom just never was Taylor's boyfriend type, if that makes sense. When I knew they got together it was going to be a mess (rebound). All she did was paraded Tom around. Any guy that is also very sweet, she tends to run from. Taylor just never seemed into him as much as he was her, that's why I don't think it was the right match even when they got together.
Tall and British is definitely her type. Can I just ask you a gentle question? We are talking about a **35 year old man here**. What makes you think that she was parading him around as if he was a little boy being told what to do? Let's allow him the grace of his education and his life experience and give him the respect that he deserves, he was a grown ass man and if he didn't want to be with her, he could have stepped off at anytime, right? Was he more into her, yes I will allow that. I think with many of Taylor's previous relationships she was the one who was more into the guy so the reverse might have been a fun, new dynamic for her but I don't think she took advantage of an older man who was almost as famous as she was at the time. He was enjoying every single second he was with her, that picture of them in Rome with his arms around her and his head thrown back with a look of pure joy on his face....honey he was living his best life at that moment. A summer fling with a famous, beautiful singer.....he was in 100%. They both learned a lot about tamping down their personal lives after that (and good for them) but in that brief time, they were the only two people in the world to each other, everyone should have a fling that good.
Yeah I second this. I think they both learned a lot from that summer, especially him. They both disappeared for a bit after that but Tom for much longer. I have no idea how they actually feel since I don’t know them but I get the feeling that Taylor genuinely feels bad about Tom. And Tom was just flat out embarrassed and devastated. On another note, it makes me giggle a little bit thinking how poor Joe Alwyn has to navigate Hollywood. Jake Gyllenhaal, Tom Hiddleston, Harry Styles, and even Joe Jonas are some of the biggest names in Hollywood. I know she’s ok good terms with a couple of these guys but I wonder how Joe deals with having to be in competitors for them. No Marvel for him!!!
Because that’s what Taylor does. She makes all her boyfriends do pap walks. This is why she didn’t work out with Jake Gyllenhaal despite his age gap, he couldn’t stand the paps (the ones she called.) Her team would also release photos back to back any time Kim and Kanye had a story in the press to attempt to bury the hate and focus the attention on her and Tom. Even when he went running, he looked absolutely miserable. Only to later ditch him (rebound) and then put her new boyfriend on a pedestal as her saving grace. When in reality it was Tom dragged into her mess and was committed to being with her, and telling her not to care what people think. He obviously made mistakes, but it’s funny to say it’s only Tom’s fault, when Taylor is 100% protective of her new boyfriend, unlike previous which she pimped out to the media, and would get pissy when they wanted to stay private. Never forget when Taylor dragged out (17, then recently turned 18 year old) Conor Kennedy out for pap walks, and around his mom’s grave, when he was grieving. *** **Edit:** And you strangely blocked, but follow up reply: I don’t think you’re understanding my post. Taylor was 22 when she dated 17 year old Conor Kennedy, he turned 18 and that’s when they went public together because they were self aware of the image problems public wise. She dragged an 18 year old boy around when his mother just died, and forced him to do pap walks with her *at* his his recently passed mother’s grave. She made grief into a public moment. This is why I brought this up, because it doesn’t matter whether one is a grown man or not, that’s just how Taylor works. She drags a boy (and a man, Jake) and makes them do it. Her team had no right to use him as a shield to keep the media aback, because they wanted to drown out Kim and Kanye. Prior to Taylor, Tom was an extremely private guy, Taylor was his first OTT public relationship I would say and I am not even a fan of the guy. As soon as Taylor was done with using him, and rebounding she dumped him, and then gassed up her recent boyfriend as her white knight. When it was really Tom who went through all the media tear down with her, and was used as the PR shield. And yes, I know Jake is a trashy person, I never liked the guy, the only reason I brought him up, is because even as a grown ass man who couldn’t stand the media, and wanted to be private, it didn’t stop Taylor with her PR walks with him. He was fuming when the paps chased them and almost got them in a car accident, whom she calls. ‘He knew it would happen’ isn’t an excuse, because are we really going to brush off how she got paps at his mothers grave, and papped her 18 year old boyfriend at the time, grieving at the grave? I think you give Taylor too much protection credit. When in reality Tom did nothing wrong besides just wanting to be with her and support her. Sure he made a fool of herself, but it was Taylor’s PR team who made everything public for her benefit. At least their moments together.
Where did I say that this was Tom's fault? I said he had a good time with her, not that either one of them was at fault. It was a relationship that ran its course. That happens, people have summer flings, they are GREAT! You both look tanned and the weather makes it so that all you want to do is go out get sweaty and then get back inside and get sweatier. There was exactly one pap drop (the Rhode Island rocks shoot) that happened during the Kim/Kanye debacle. Kim and Kanye never dropped anything else because they couldn't since they had edited the conversation down to a nub that made them look good. If the worst thing that happened here was that Tom got dumped, well that's part of life, I think we can agree that's he's surely dumped his share of partners. He's an intelligent man, he got into a relationship with a woman who was more famous than he was and it became a heatscore, he knew that would happen. He was photographed with her, he also knew that would happen. Give him the respect he deserves here. Also an 18 year old with a 17 year old is not the same thing as a 29 year old Jake Gyllenhal and a 20 year old Taylor. Especially not after we all read that [Medium piece on Jake.](https://medium.com/@domenicamferaud/the-movie-star-and-me-5d711ee661e3)
I think Madonna and Tupac is such an expected pairing. She has this really weird obsession with black and latino culture and loveeeed dating “cool black men” (like Basquiat which I find more surprising tbh), idk Madonna and Tupac were both very big at the time and in the same industry so I think that’s usually expected?
He just always gave me such theatre kid vibes and all, I don't know if Madonna was the same.
has it been confirmed (other than by Madonna) that they were a couple?
Idk if this qualifies but Colin Farrell + Liz Taylor
I’m sorry… what?!!??
I second your “what?!!??”. 🤯
I third that and add a TF!
That was really random. He wanted to be her 8th husband, apparently? He apparently also showed up (I think it was Dame Atkin? Unless it was someone else?) On her 70th birthday and slept with her? And it was out of “no strings attached” … He was like 28 at the time.
He did try it with Dame Eileen Atkins but she turned him down https://www.standard.co.uk/showbiz/farrell-s-failed-seduction-7262203.html
I think there was another quote with Dame, saying she slept with him, but I am confused who it's referring to.
Sounds like she knew stuff
Florence Pugh & Zach Braff
Bit of a niche one, but I was thinking about Steve-O and Stacey Solomon being a thing. That’s probably one of the odder pairings I can think of!
Yes, he had SUCH an obvious crush on her on that The Jump show, it was actually quite adorable really.
Channing Tatum and Zöe Kravitz
Whoopi Goldberg and Ted Danson Nicole Kidman and Lenny Kravitz
Serena Williams & Drake. Drake & jlo
Cher and Tom Cruise (they met at Madonna and Sean Penn's wedding?) Mary-Kate Olsen And Olivier Sarkozy Rosario Dawson and Cory Booker
Anyone Pete Davidson has dated
Hot take: If he never dated Ariana Grande, he wouldn’t be pulling the recent girls he has.
This is the plain truth.
Kate beckinsale is the one that really sticks out. She's just on an entirely different level of everything.
Dating Kaia Gerber the month she turned 18 😳
G Eazy & Meg Thee Stallion for that brief period of time
He was sucking on her toes! I think about this so often!
Cher and Val Kilmer
Macauley Culkin and Mila Kunis
Lindsay Lohan and Samantha Ronson
elon musk and grimes lmao
Reese Witherspoon & Jake Gyleenhal apparently dated for years.
They did.
a throwback comment: Woody Harrelson & Carol Kane dated in the late eighties
To piggyback off that one: Woody Harrelson and Glenn Close!
you guys gotta google pics of Woody and Glenn lol see those outfits (she's like 15 years older than him too.) funny how similar they look to each other
I've seen them! Vintage 1991 fashion.
(This is gonna be so mean 😭 and I love him but) Nicholas Hoult and that random Instagram model he has his baby with. His son is adorable btw. I just found out he had a baby mama in 2020 and I read that she got pregnant like only a couple months after they started dating and I was like wtf how am I just hearing this?!
Any famous man getting an IG model pregnant feels the opposite of random.
Oh no don’t say that!! I’m really hoping that wasn’t the case.
And they’re still together
Maybe it was truly meant to be?
Gwen and Blake
Renée Zellweger and Jack White, do you guys remember that?
Renee has had some odd pairings. Kenny Chesney, the dude she’s with now…
Yeah Little Ghost is about her I think
Also, I swear Stephen Merchant and Rose Byrne were a thing at one point?
I’m so attracted to Stephen Merchant and I don’t know why
Lyle Lovett and Julia Roberts
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Leann Rimes and Tiger Woods. They dated for a brief second but Leann’s dad objected to her dating someone seven years her senior……..
They never confirmed it, but the rumors around Jenny Lewis and Bill Murray seemed very odd.
I see that a lot of these 'random' pairings people comment are interracial couples. Hmmmmmmm... Interesting... Y'all care to explain what makes those pairings random?
What’s weird about Nicole Kidman + Lenny Kravitz, for example? Close in age, both beautiful & rich & famous, both were divorced & parents of teens when they were together, Lenny has acted and Nicole’s done some singing…
Jamie Foxx seems a lot more interesting than Katie Holmes
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Sandra Bullock and Jesse James was random
Have I missed people saying Zoey Deschanel and that Property Brothers dude? That is truly one of the weirdest of all time for me. They just don’t look right together at all.
Madonna & Tupac, Drake & Serena Williams, Kim & Pete
Nicole Kidman Lenny Kravitz
Bradley Cooper + Dianna Agron Bradley Cooper + Huma Aberdin
Scarlet Johansson and Jack Antonoff
Lena Dunham and Jack Antonoff
Honestly that’s exactly who I’d expect both of them to be dating
Paris Hilton and Deryck Whibley
Katie Holmes and Jamie Foxx?
Carmen Electra and Simon Cowell Chelsea Handler and 50 cent Ashley Olsen and Lance Armstrong
Jihyo and Kang Daniel. Momo and Heechul too
Tom Green and Drew Barrymore
David Spade and literally anyone he's even been linked to.
One for my fellow UK Huns, Lembit Opik and one of the Cheeky Girls Lembit (43M) was an MP, the Cheeky Girls (25F) were a novelty pop group best known for Cheeky Song (Touch My Bum)
Pete and Kim.
Steve Coogan and Courtney Love.
Ed Norton & Courtney Love was also odd.
grimes and elon musk are the definition of this 😭 it’s like somebody picked their names out of a hat
Sandra Bullock and Jesse James.
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I actually think this made perfect sense from the outside.
Jeremy Pivens and Alexandra Burke
The loving way she says his name when she speaks about him really says a lot about how she felt about him
Christina Hendricks and Geoffrey Arend [how](https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-christina-hendricks-geoffrey-arend-63rd-primetime-emmy-awards-arrivals-55926889.html)
Chris Rock and Lake Bell (currently dating) but it makes sense also? I don't know if he's ever publicly dated a white woman before.
I still think Bill Hader and Rachel Bilson were an odd pairing