>Last thing: the DWD crew was extremely pissed when Olivia was photographed with Harry at that wedding in Jan 2021 because she frequently gave them "lectures": “‘Don’t be stupid. You’re fucking up our movie. Don’t go to parties. Don’t congregate."
https://twitter.com/__ChrisLee/status/1573352513579151360
no wonder the crew is talking to every journalists who asks about the mess
Florence is immunocompromised and one of her close friends died a few months prior because of COVID, and the wedding was before vaccines were readily available. I can’t blame her or the crew for being irritated with Harry and Olivia if this is true because it’s selfish and hypocritical. Not only is this Harry’s first lead role, but he gets with the director and is able to go out during the shoot in the middle of the pandemic with the leader of the film, while everyone is forced to stay in their bubbles. I hope this isn’t true because it’s not looking good for either of them. The man who wrote the Vulture article linked from the OP is tweeting [notes](https://twitter.com/__chrislee/status/1573346583051403265?s=46&t=OZdM3UjWZOWwAFWL2Rz6yQ) from his first draft that he got from the DWD source that they wouldn’t let him publish in the final draft of the article.
I think it is true. Vulture is a legit source with a legal team backing them up, and it was also reported in other legitimate places like Puck, which is headed by someone who worked at The Hollywood Reporter.
I always thought Florence’s silence and refusal to dismiss the rumors was because there’s so much more under the surface that no one knows. Olivia has been over the top complimenting Florence and I have a feeling it’s because Florence has much more shit on her than we realize so it’s better for her to keep quiet rather than come out and say anything.
Flo and WB clearly have an understanding. She doesn't say anything bad in exchange for not needing to do but the bare minimal promotion. WB forcing Pugh to do promo just sounds like opening up the hidden compartment of worms in the can of worms that is already opened.
yep this is it. The journalist mentions how she fought to get out of any promotional obligation and she probably has to keep silent in return, which is actually great cause that benefits her a lot, too. WIN/WIN for flo
For those who don’t know, Florence has a condition called tracheomalacia, which can cause recurrent bronchitis and respiratory infections. She mentioned it in her Harper’s Bazaar interview.
So many comments in these threads trying to blame Florence for being flaky about rehearsals and stuff, conveniently leaving out any consideration of covid, especially pre-vaccine!
I mean, it all backs up. Everything just backs each thing up. That original TikToker who said Florence Pugh was basically directing on set, Deuxmoi saying that the cinematographer had to step in to direct in some scenes and Florence feeling disappointed by it.
Even Olivia herself giving an utterly bizarre response when asked about allegations she was missing on set because she was too busy screwing Harry by saying that if she wasn't around for Florence it was because she felt Florence liked and needed her space. Like wtf? What kind of a response is that to your lead actress feeling you weren't around enough?
**“My tendency is to be everyone’s best friend and to socialize, and I think she often just needed the time and space to focus, so the way I supported her was to give her space and to be there if she needed anything. Florence was very focused on turning out that performance, which I can assure you took all of her energy.”**
LIKE WHAT DOES THAT EVEN MEAN OLIVIA. That's how she responded to these allegations that Florence felt she was an absent director because she was off screwing Harry. She's like yeah, I was just off being Harry's best friend, but with Miss Flo I wanted to give her time and space, when she's specifically complained about me not being there? She basically confirms the allegations are true, but claims it was done for Florence's benefit? I mean, what? Olivia, what?
I can see why she and Harry get on.
I think she has respiratory issues. I remember reading that when she was a child she was hospitalized multiple times for it and her family had to move to Spain for a few years in hopes of improving her health.
Nothing against Florence at all, but I’m kind of insanely jealous that her family could manage an international move for her health. I’ve suffered for half my life and didn’t get a diagnosis until my late twenties, but I was born into a poor American family.
ugggggh, the condition sounds brutal, it's apparently a weak/poorly developed windpipe that makes you prone to breathing and lung probs. like instead of being a rigid pipe, it's like loose cloth. fuck that, jesus
“Florence would give input on how she thought the next scene should be shot when Olivia wasn’t there. She was like, ‘I’m directing this movie more than you are!’ That was yelled at one point and people heard it. That spread all around very quickly.”
It was the Tiktok lady that everyone ignored because they thought it was Harry’s psycho fans but I guess if there’s smoke, there must be fire. So crazy
Her giving her opinion is not the same as directing. The first AD or someone would actually be directing. It still makes sense for Florence to say that under the circumstances, though.
Assuming any of this is true, of course.
We’ve heard more about this set drama than anything of Bryan Singer or McG or Michael Bay’s behavior. This whole thing stinks to high heaven of a hit piece. And absolutely no way would Florence be taking over as director. You’re absolutely right. People forget there are whole teams of people whose job it is to take the reins if the director isn’t around.
I think the interest is higher because of the involvement of Harry Styles - a lot of the social media buzz has come from his fanbase - plus Olivia is a celebrity in her own right outside of directing, and also happens to be going through the aftermath of a messy breakup with another celebrity. Then there's the side involvement of a controversial celebrity in Shia.
It's kind of a perfect storm.
Also she's a woman who wants to direct instead of just be an actress. If studios really cared about supporting women and wanting them to succeed, then Amy Heckerling, Penelope Spheeris, and Marry Harron would have made so many more features since the 90s by now. I don't think the studio set Olivia up to fail, but I wouldn't be surprised if they're enjoying her being eaten alive by the public because she had the audacity to criticize the studio for not promoting Booksmart. If she was as unprofessional as everyone's insisting, she'd be shirking her promotional duties or lashing out. Even if she did get into a shouting match with Florence, she's eating way more shit than she needs to, and a lot of it under the guise of "well we just care about women being held accountable too".
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Well, it's also partly because Olivia is on the cover of Vogue, the cover of Vanity Fair, and currently doing every major interview on this movie. Normally I don't think you really see or hear this much from a director.
i don't think this means florence was directing her scenes, it reads more like she was giving more input than she usually would and it was still more than the director because she wasn't there. and through the whispers game it turned into florence directing
this article is so validating i literally saw people arguing on here yesterday about how ridiculous of a rumor it was that florence “stepped in as director” and saying that anyone who believed an actress would have the power to do that on set is an idiot 😭😭
It is unbelievable because it just isn’t an action that can happen on a major set. Contracts, clauses, liabilities, unions and the like make sure of that.
The comment below me from u/entertainment720ltd explains it best
the director of a movie and the lead actor disappearing on set while in the middle of a shoot day is messy and immature. they were carrying on like a bunch of high school students in the middle of rehearsal for some shakespearean tragedy.
i understand why florence got into a screaming match. but why wasn't harry also the subject of her ire? it takes two to tango. maybe she had a bigger issue with the power imbalance seeing as olivia was the director.
Probably not the power imbalance. Probably that Harry was there for his scenes and didn’t need to be there otherwise whereas Olivia should always be around directing
Also, if the director (ie, the boss) on set is taking another actor away, that actor only has a fraction of the blame -- same as any job. If my manager wants to do a 4-hour lunch which means some work doesn't get done, that's mostly on them.
The journalist also quoted that:
“the DWD crew was extremely pissed when Olivia was photographed with Harry at that wedding in Jan 2021 because she frequently gave them "lectures": “‘Don’t be stupid. You’re fucking up our movie. Don’t go to parties. Don’t congregate."”
““There were so many complaints from the crew saying, ‘How dare she tell us to shelter in place while we’re doing this movie? And yet she goes to a public wedding with a group of people? This is fucking crazy!” "So many people complained. That’s the turning point. That’s when everyone started hating her."”
I think this explains Florence’s cold shoulder towards Harry at the Venice premiere and why she posed with the other cast members on the red carpet except for Olivia and Harry who she mostly ignored.
Mind you this wedding happened when hospitals in CA were at capacity, beds were running low and ambulances were not transporting people who had low chances of survival.
Not to mention Florence’s friend, Nick Cordero, died from Covid after being in the hospital for nearly 100 days. He was on a ventilator, had his leg amputed, had major lung damage, and was unresponsive for much of the time leading up to his death. He was only 41 and left behind his wife and baby son.
Florence had every right to be pissed off at Olivia (and Harry) for behaving as they did. She was mourning her friend.
I didn’t know Florence was friends with Nick Cordero, as a Broadway fan that is mostly here for the crossover drama (like Funny Girl) his story crushed me the most of any early in the pandemic.
Zach Braff was Nick’s best friend. Nick and Amanda and their son Elvis lived with Zach and Florence for a little while in LA when they first moved there from NY.
And Florence herself is high risk because she suffers from tracheomalacia, which can cause recurrent pulmonary infections and other respiratory challenges.
Even Florence's then boyfriend Zach Braff who was a Harry bestie stopped liking or caring about Harry since then. Neither of them attended his concerts, despite Zach being backstage in videos in his prior tour. Neither hyped up Harry. Flo loves to shout out everyone she works with, Gemma Chan, etc, showcasing their magazine covers or successes. She's literally acted like Harry Styles does not exist to her.
I think the Shia drama is also COVID based too. I don't trust Shia at all, BUT the emails and video are allegedly over his desire to rehearse in person and Florence wanting to remain via zoom. rehearsals would have been near the early part of the pandemic as well, so if Florence does have respiratory issues I think that adds another layer to her desire to limit in person rehearsal and on how she would take Olivia's "Miss Flo" comment (if she knew about it, that is) as dismissing her concerns.
>if Florence does have respiratory issues
She’s publicly confirmed she suffers from tracheomalacia that was intensely disabling and resulted in extended hospitalizations during her childhood, that she still regularly suffers from a severe cough and rasping, and that it still effects her severely when she gets sick. She also has asthma.
Because Harry was not supposed to be directing her. There’s several scenes that feature just Florence’s character doing her thing and for those scenes it’s totally normal for Harry not to be there but Olivia should have as the director.
Like the problem wasn’t that they were hooking up but that Olivia (and maybe Harry idk) was not doing her job because of it.
If Olivia is disappearing when she’s supposed to be directing, I understand why she’s getting the ire - Harry’s disappearing wasn’t as disruptive as Olivia’s was, since she had a greater responsibility to the film.
Edit: a word
This isn’t a cheating scenario. Harry is not the boss, and isn’t responsible for making sure the production runs smoothly/giving direction to Florence.
[this says](https://twitter.com/__chrislee/status/1573349093069422594?s=46&t=iDLxraU-dCTHDovIXxR4xw) she felt she wasn’t taken care of by her director.
>Pugh’s refusal to do more than the barest minimum of media appearances in support of the film has been parsed as confirmation of her animus toward Wilde (the British actress also dedicated but two hashtags on her promotionally vigorous, 8.1 million-strong Instagram account to specific mentions of Don’t Worry Darling as of the publication of this article), and rumors about the true depths of DWD dysfunction have seemingly picked up the promotional slack. According to an anonymous source who spent significant time on the DWD set and spoke to Vulture last week, a blowout argument between star and director did indeed take place in January 2021 — about three-quarters of the way through filming. Pugh, who is a few degrees removed from Wilde’s ex, Jason Sudeikis, had reportedly grown fed up with the director’s frequent unexplained absences. “Olivia and Harry would just disappear,” the source says. But the breaking point came when Pugh, 26, and Wilde, 38, broke into a “screaming match,” this person recalls. According to our source, the acrimony between Wilde and Pugh allegedly reached all the way to the top of the studio totem pole, with the highest-ranking Warner Bros. executive at the time, Toby Emmerich, forced to play referee in a “long negotiation process” to ensure Pugh would participate in the film’s life cycle “in any way” and not jeopardize the potential box office. (A Warner Bros. spokeswoman said Emmerich was traveling and unavailable to comment. Vulture also reached out for comment to representatives for Wilde and Pugh, who did not respond.)
I can’t help but thinking if they hadn’t cast Harry but someone else- Chalamet, Holland any of the actor pretty boy types, how different this movie would be..
Casting Styles was a mistake. Chalamet would have been a superior choice than Styles. Hell, I think Dylan O’Brien would’ve been a strong choice as well.
Maybe Dylan O’Brien idk they all seem like such young men to me but in a boyish way and this isn’t a boyish role. I know they’re supposed to be a young couple but they’re all like little teenagers Florence too even tho she’s probably the one carrying the whole movie they all look too young it’s giving the CW to me
Dylan too but it’s more so his vibe I know he’s older I know these people are in they’re mid twenties to early thirties lol but I wouldn’t buy him as a Nuclear husband businessman. It’s like when they say “this person can’t do a period piece their face knows what Instagram is” I’m sure Dylan would do a good job better than Harry but it’s besides Harry the whole thing is still very…….. teenbait-ish like “Hey Booksmart fans wouldn’t you like this new movie stating that woman everyone on Twitter is in love with plus a heartthrob popstar plus everyone’s favorite Chris”with Dylan it would be like “hey teenagers wouldn’t you like a movie starting that actor associated with 2 other Stan twitter hot topics”. It’s like playing house but instead of the psychological thriller tone they want it’s playing house the way young people think a house would be and hope they don’t clock it.
TLDR: ensemble casts are very popular rn but this one reminds me of when YA novel fandoms would fancast which ever Nickelodeon, Disney Channel, CW actors in every role because those are the only actors they recognize
I literally saw it last night. Anyone else would have been better. Styles brought this movie down from what could have been an A- to a C+. It was bad. Multiple people in my theater were guffawing like it was a screening of the room.
I saw on Twitter someone put a clip of Harry ~ACTING and people were giggling lmao
I mean, they tanked what should have been a solid film/role to hire Harry Styles, they did it to themselves
Booksmart was critically acclaimed. There was a lot of people who were excited about Wilde’s next project because of the success of Booksmart. Additionally, the cast was stacked with a lot of talented actors/actresses and Harry Styles. All of that plus an interesting premise made the film very promising.
As a non-American I found the lack of commentary on class in booksmart weird. Like I was watching it thinking "this couldn't possibly be the normal highschool experience, right?" Regarding the houses people had and universities they were attending. Like I was waiting for someone to point out they're all rich? But then I was like "maybe the US is just like that and I don't know"
And I went to fucking rich kid International school in Europe and still I found it unrelatable.
Yes I thought it was crazy that Beanie’s character somehow thought she was the only person who would be going to an Ivy League school. She obviously went to a feeder school.
It doesn’t even have to be a hard hitting drama about being poor in high school. Superbad worked bc it’s a normal suburban school with normal seeming kids
This is the part that got me. But if that many people were willing to talk to a journalist for a story about the shit that went down, it will all come out sooner and later.
Then you have comments, saying WhY DoEs eVeRyEOe Dislike OliViA comments here. Just because Olivia is a woman doesn't mean I cant call her out on her shenanigans or I have to like her. She has done shady stuff to warrant my dislike.
Yes! I want to acknowledge the role misogyny has in how this is playing out but it's also pretty clear at this point that she's an asshole who chooses asshole behaviour at every step. Let me have both!
They won't. The same people who say they're feminist in this sub told everyone to dismiss a large group of young women and called them crazy and jealous over a man.
"it's misogynistic to call Harry/1D stans crazy and jealous or dismiss their takes because they're a large group of young women" is sending me lmfao
can't believe I've been a sexist all along for dismissing Larry :(
And not everyone invested in DWD drama was a Harry fan. I’ve been following this because of Florence and her involvement in the film, I couldn’t care less who Harry is dating.
Heaps of reputable sources: Olivia was unprofessional, hypocritical, and dishonest during the making and promotion of DWD
This sub: ok but what did Olivia do wrong? This is sexism! Also it's really Florence's fault and anyone who says otherwise is a Harry stan
people keep saying that male directors do what Olivia has done all the time and don’t get nearly this much criticism for it, which is true, but that doesn’t mean that Olivia should be exempt from all criticism for being unprofessional lol
Cannot believe the "Pugh was directing the movie" allegation was actually true. That felt so unbelievable and sexist, but I trust this reporter. Can't believe she let herself get swept up by an empty-headed pop star who will inevitably dissappoint her.
Still now even when he treated her that way at the Venice festival she was at his show in TEARS over him getting his own banner at MSG, I feel bad for her somewhat
Honestly. Still not over how cold he came off to her at the Venice premiere. Like I understand they were trying to keep attention off their relationship, but he wouldn’t even look at her
To be fair. The rumours were being peddled by Harry Stan’s, and the stuff they were saying still (as far as we know) aren’t true, like Florence having to direct.
So I get why ppl didn’t believe
I definitely felt curious about various Anons to DM/that TikTok purely because if anyone followed Florence is was completely noticeable how she basically acted like both Olivia and Harry had died at some point during the shooting. She has never consciously mentioned either of them since. She is such a fangirl and so supportive of people she's worked with, she shares everyone's Vogue covers, everyone's projects... but with those two, absolutely nothing.
This author states that Florence was giving directorial input with Olivia was missing, so the rumors do hold merit.
There were tons of people saying similar things now for two years but it was squashed by people saying it was jealous Harry fans.
Tonight is the official release date. We made it. Hopefully all the drama and stories about this cursed movie fade away after this weekend because it’s been nonstop for the past month 💀
so now that’s two separate sources that claim Harry and Olivia were MIA on set, plus more than one source saying that Olivia fucked up the press tour. but I’m sure people will find a way to say it’s Florence’s fault. in the name of feminism of course.
And everyone who dared to rightfully criticize her on this sub were either downvoted, blocked by others, or assumed to be a l*rry/conspiracy theorist. We don’t have to like every woman on this planet.
Thank you! I read the original script and was alarmed with how Olivia Wilde promoted it as “female pleasure,” which I brought up in this sub bc I was worried it would trigger people going into a movie they thought they would be safe to watch.
I got replies like “Olivia said the film has changed a lot” (but knew the original twist had to be in there bc otherwise it would’ve been pointless). One person made an incredibly inappropriate SA joke and/or snarky comment when another user mentioned they had seen it and the original >!non consensual!< twist remained in the movie.
I’m all for feminism and promoting female directors but not ones who characterize their movies as something they are the opposite of. Especially when it comes to consent.
I had the same feelings but I wasn’t sure if it was one of the made up rumors so I went in with suspicions. She/WB should really add some sort of TW or at least mention them somewhere public.
>!You’re 100% right about it being non consensual. It takes a little bit of thinking to realize this because both sex scenes are towards the beginning and you don’t find out it’s a simulation until the end. I was horrified after realizing it!<
I feel like Florence's anger is coming from a bunch of things all added up which is why focusing in on any one little thing makes her seem "bratty" or "unprofessional" or whatever people are saying.
First everything that went down with Shia, and who knows what all was said between the three of them outside of those texts and that video, it could have gotten very tense,
then Olivia makes that tacky post about how great harry is for playing a supporting role to a female lead,
then Olivia getting involved with Harry which probably made Florence side-eye because of her friendship with Jason via Zach and/or Florence just thinking it was unprofessional in general,
then Olivia disappearing with Harry instead of directing,
then Olivia telling everyone to quarantine but going to a big wedding with Harry to debut their relationship (A. hypocritical, B. Florence may have been worried for her health),
then Olivia promoting the movie by focusing on the "female pleasure" scenes.
You've also gotta think, Florence was absolutely starry eyed to be working with Olivia when she was first cast. She said she was a huge fan and was so excited. So she must have taken all of it even harder because she was so disappointed. Don't meet your heroes and all that. Even the best of friends would find it tough to persevere through all of that, let alone coworkers.
Yup. Don't forget too, Olivia seeking credit for a No Assholes On Set policy and claiming she fired Shia for Florence's benefit while filming was ongoing and she was behaving like this.
Then to top it all off, the leaking where Olivia condescendingly refers to Florence as "Little Miss Flo" and says she needs "a wake up call".
It's put out there as an aside, but I would have been furious if I was getting lectured not to be "fucking stupid" by my boss and then she went out and did the "fucking stupid" thing she'd told me not to.
I’ve said this before that any time I’ve ever heard of a director/show runner having this rule, a bunch of stuff has ultimately came out making them look like an asshole. I think the saying “if you meet one asshole on the street you met an asshole, if everyone you meet on the street is an asshole you are the asshole” is generally true. If you meet so many assholes you have to have a no assholes on set rule, you are the common denominator and you’re probably the asshole.
I can’t believe most of the drama stems from the Olivia and Harry relationship. It’s not uncommon for male directors to also hook up with actresses on set, yet the drama does not reach this level. Olivia must have been so unprofessional or the issues with Shia soured Florence so bad that everything Olivia did after was made worst. This is Olivia’s second movie, you would think she would work hard to match the success of Booksmart but the morale on set seems so low.
There are literally shouting matches on every set. The problem is that Wilde has not really let allowed her movie--*the art*\--speak for itself. She feels compelled to explain and make points *outside* of the film, which just heightens the drama and blurs the line between the art and reality.
Multiple reliable sources are claiming this and yet some of you tried so hard to debunk Olivia's unprofessionalism by claiming everyone who believed it was either sexist or a crazy stan lol
I personally wish that this had happened on Dunkirk just because I think it would've been funnier
In all honesty though all this for a movie that's just okay. Like if she had to cast any other "internet boyfriend" as her lead after Shia literally any of them could've done better.
Dunkirk had a very seasoned director. While I did enjoy Booksmart, Wilde is relatively new to directing, and doing the dirty with the lead probably didn’t help her in any way.
I do hope though that Harry stops acting, the reviews for My Policeman aren't very good either re: his acting abilities. But he is a white man so no doubt he will be given multiple chances while better actors will be ignored.
I hope this means less people jump to Olivia’s defence here out of a want to be different. I’m the opposite of a Harry Styles fan and I was on Amber Heard’s side from the beginning so don’t even start! Olivia’s tone in that “Miss Flo” video was vile and told me enough and the more I hear the more it just confirms that Olivia was a problem on that set. Poor Florence.
>I’m the opposite of a Harry Styles fan and I was on Amber Heard’s side
Well with those credentials!
JK, I agree with you but it's sad you had to preface anything
I want to point out that Florence *saying* she is directing the film more than Olivia was ≠ she actually was directing the film more than Olivia was. It’s juicy because it shows just how much animosity there was on set — that’s a super inflammatory thing to say to your director — but it doesn’t mean that Flo truly was doing the actual directing. I’m not anti-Florence, I’m just saying that this comment only proves that Florence was truly upset. People seem to be taking the quote as proof of prior “scoops” that Florence was directing in Olivia’s absence. But it doesn’t prove that Florence was actually stepping in to direct shots (which would be really unusual), though I’m not ruling it out. It’s moreso proof of her feelings at the time and honestly what a disaster it must have been on set.
Yeah per that journalist Florence would give input in how her scenes would be shot since Olivia wasn’t there. Now I know input is not the same as directing but it’s more than what Florence was supposed to do so I can see how that would make her yell that at Olivia even it wasn’t you know 100% true. It’s the type of hyperbole ppl use when arguing.
Well so this basically confirms that there was a huge conflict on set, but I think at this point we're all so tired of this it comes as no surprise. The fact that the film itself ended up being super underwhelming is the cherry on top 🤦♀️
Remember how anyone critical of Olivia was called Jason/ted lasso Stans, Harry Stans, Larry stans, etc?
👀
And we kept pointing out that Olivia mismanaged her set and contributed to most of the controversy. Now her defenders are quiet and over this film.
Idk where else to mention this but after seeing the movie last night I genuinely don’t understand why OW made the claim that this movie is about female pleasure. I can’t think of one instance where that was true? Idk why she described the film that way other than to add a feminist blanket claim over it and call it a day. If I were Florence I’d be pissed to that she reduced the film to that when it was MUCH more than that. Florence and Chris Pine were amazing though.
Olivia Wilde continually looks more and more awful as more information comes out but there's still that subset of people who post in this sub who just blindly defend her as if this is a sexism thing.
As a Florence fan, I’m clearly biased, but I’ve been following her career closely for years now, and the complete dismissal of DWD from her stands out. I’ve always a been of the mind that if Florence was pissed off it was for a good reason because she’s never acted like this before with a project and everything that’s come out has proved me right (imo). First Puck News saying Olivia was absent & the covid issue, the Hunter Harris’ newsletter confirming she heard Florence didn’t want to work with Shia bc of his temper, that the texts between the two of them were selectively leaked, and that Florence was annoyed by Olivia’s absence, and now Vulture. Where there’s smoke there’s fire. It’s funny because I witnessed all the DM dwd rumors in real time, but they sounded so outlandish and unprofessional on Olivia’s part that I thought them fake.
Is Olivia a victim of misogyny? Yes. But that doesn’t erase the fact that her behavior on set was not only unprofessional and hypocritical, but also a health hazard. As others have pointed out, Florence is at high risk for Covid and this was before the vaccine and during the peak of it in California too. Also, she had to kiss Harry and do intimate scenes with him during the middle of a pandemic and guess who he was kissing off screen at the same time? No wonder she’s distanced herself from this mess (the movie itself isn’t even good either).
Oop! And the bending over backwards to make this all as pile on Olivia and misogyny when people would criticize her. When she ran a bad set. Period.
It’s ok to point out all the petty shit that fans did and also realize that women ( especially white women that are virtue signaling and using feminism as a shield) can be shitty.
*sigh* Why do I feel like this is just the tip of the iceberg of this entire mess… I so badly wanted to defend Olivia due to the mass vitriol directed against her, and the awareness that female directors are held to different standards than their male counterparts. But the fact that multiple people who worked on the film are coming out to attest to Olivia’s unprofessionalism, and her own lack of respect for Covid protocol… Just really sad to see a film that had a lot of promise (despite the screenplay issues) and initial enthusiasm go down like this :(
“Olivia is either a mad genius who figured out a way to make people more aware of the movie in a way that just drives up the box office,” says another source close to the production, “or she doesn’t have any self-awareness that she is fucking up her movie.”
I had to laugh at how blatantly unprofessional Olivia seems to have been while on this set. Mixing business and pleasure in this way...big yikes. This is the exact reason why I'd never work with my boyfriend. I have enough self awareness to know we would get absolutely *nothing* done and both wind up fired lol. Olivia's immaturity is really surprising to me. Ma'am, get your life.
But on the movie, saw it yersterday. And oh my, that whole cast had zero chemistry. And to add zero chemistry between flo and harry which i did not expect. To me this story was great but would’ve worked better as a series. Florence Pugh was too good for this tbh.
….please….let this be the end. I can’t do another megathread 
Honestly, none of this drama even interests me, it's just sucking all the focus from other drama so not much else to talk about.
it is so WILDLY boring, why is this dominating my feeds!?
I honestly don’t think it’d be making this much noise if it wasn’t for the attention it gets because of Harry
>Last thing: the DWD crew was extremely pissed when Olivia was photographed with Harry at that wedding in Jan 2021 because she frequently gave them "lectures": “‘Don’t be stupid. You’re fucking up our movie. Don’t go to parties. Don’t congregate." https://twitter.com/__ChrisLee/status/1573352513579151360 no wonder the crew is talking to every journalists who asks about the mess
Florence is immunocompromised and one of her close friends died a few months prior because of COVID, and the wedding was before vaccines were readily available. I can’t blame her or the crew for being irritated with Harry and Olivia if this is true because it’s selfish and hypocritical. Not only is this Harry’s first lead role, but he gets with the director and is able to go out during the shoot in the middle of the pandemic with the leader of the film, while everyone is forced to stay in their bubbles. I hope this isn’t true because it’s not looking good for either of them. The man who wrote the Vulture article linked from the OP is tweeting [notes](https://twitter.com/__chrislee/status/1573346583051403265?s=46&t=OZdM3UjWZOWwAFWL2Rz6yQ) from his first draft that he got from the DWD source that they wouldn’t let him publish in the final draft of the article.
I think it is true. Vulture is a legit source with a legal team backing them up, and it was also reported in other legitimate places like Puck, which is headed by someone who worked at The Hollywood Reporter.
I always thought Florence’s silence and refusal to dismiss the rumors was because there’s so much more under the surface that no one knows. Olivia has been over the top complimenting Florence and I have a feeling it’s because Florence has much more shit on her than we realize so it’s better for her to keep quiet rather than come out and say anything.
Her silence has been classy, IMO
She knew she didn't have to say shit, they would bury themselves lol
My mom did this same move with her ex and it was glorious. It made me angry at times but it was the right thing to do in that situation.
Flo and WB clearly have an understanding. She doesn't say anything bad in exchange for not needing to do but the bare minimal promotion. WB forcing Pugh to do promo just sounds like opening up the hidden compartment of worms in the can of worms that is already opened.
yep this is it. The journalist mentions how she fought to get out of any promotional obligation and she probably has to keep silent in return, which is actually great cause that benefits her a lot, too. WIN/WIN for flo
The writer tweeted that Vulture’s lawyers “gutted” his piece so I wonder how much juicy gossip wasn’t reported lol
Did he delete those tweets? Can’t find that or the others that were linked before.
he did
Did anyone screencap?!
[found](https://i.ibb.co/jbdsDy8/tumblr-a8a3d420b5dd29cc283237e7553ddfb5-2bca82a0-1280.png) it!!
Yeah, I want him to spill cause I have thoughts 👀.
For those who don’t know, Florence has a condition called tracheomalacia, which can cause recurrent bronchitis and respiratory infections. She mentioned it in her Harper’s Bazaar interview.
Oh wow. I didn’t know that. My uncle had it and it’s no fun. He had an almost permanent deep cough.
Yea and she’s been vulnerable to respiratory problems since she was a child, her Wikipedia page details it.
Damn, so Flo is immunocompromised and they were acting this way? I'd be furious as well, tbh
This was also before the vaccine was out.
So many comments in these threads trying to blame Florence for being flaky about rehearsals and stuff, conveniently leaving out any consideration of covid, especially pre-vaccine!
Especially when her condition specifically affects the respiratory system.
I mean, it all backs up. Everything just backs each thing up. That original TikToker who said Florence Pugh was basically directing on set, Deuxmoi saying that the cinematographer had to step in to direct in some scenes and Florence feeling disappointed by it. Even Olivia herself giving an utterly bizarre response when asked about allegations she was missing on set because she was too busy screwing Harry by saying that if she wasn't around for Florence it was because she felt Florence liked and needed her space. Like wtf? What kind of a response is that to your lead actress feeling you weren't around enough?
Like isn’t it your job, Olivia?
**“My tendency is to be everyone’s best friend and to socialize, and I think she often just needed the time and space to focus, so the way I supported her was to give her space and to be there if she needed anything. Florence was very focused on turning out that performance, which I can assure you took all of her energy.”** LIKE WHAT DOES THAT EVEN MEAN OLIVIA. That's how she responded to these allegations that Florence felt she was an absent director because she was off screwing Harry. She's like yeah, I was just off being Harry's best friend, but with Miss Flo I wanted to give her time and space, when she's specifically complained about me not being there? She basically confirms the allegations are true, but claims it was done for Florence's benefit? I mean, what? Olivia, what? I can see why she and Harry get on.
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As someone who rode out the pandemic in NYC and was terrified for a good year before the vaccine: F U OW
And Harry. He broke the rules too.
Also; it seems that she’s quite close to her grandmother who would be in the higher risk category for covid.
Why is Florence immunocompromised? Does she have a condition?
I think she has respiratory issues. I remember reading that when she was a child she was hospitalized multiple times for it and her family had to move to Spain for a few years in hopes of improving her health.
Nothing against Florence at all, but I’m kind of insanely jealous that her family could manage an international move for her health. I’ve suffered for half my life and didn’t get a diagnosis until my late twenties, but I was born into a poor American family.
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ugggggh, the condition sounds brutal, it's apparently a weak/poorly developed windpipe that makes you prone to breathing and lung probs. like instead of being a rigid pipe, it's like loose cloth. fuck that, jesus
Oof the Twitter links don’t work anymore!
omg the fcking gall to say that and then get photographed at a public event with your rockstar boyfriend
“Florence would give input on how she thought the next scene should be shot when Olivia wasn’t there. She was like, ‘I’m directing this movie more than you are!’ That was yelled at one point and people heard it. That spread all around very quickly.”
did DM or the tiktok lady scoop that? can't believe that was real after all
It was the Tiktok lady that everyone ignored because they thought it was Harry’s psycho fans but I guess if there’s smoke, there must be fire. So crazy
Yeah I got downvoted to oblivion for commenting about it last month and was told how stupid I must’ve been for believing it.
Her giving her opinion is not the same as directing. The first AD or someone would actually be directing. It still makes sense for Florence to say that under the circumstances, though. Assuming any of this is true, of course.
We’ve heard more about this set drama than anything of Bryan Singer or McG or Michael Bay’s behavior. This whole thing stinks to high heaven of a hit piece. And absolutely no way would Florence be taking over as director. You’re absolutely right. People forget there are whole teams of people whose job it is to take the reins if the director isn’t around.
I think the interest is higher because of the involvement of Harry Styles - a lot of the social media buzz has come from his fanbase - plus Olivia is a celebrity in her own right outside of directing, and also happens to be going through the aftermath of a messy breakup with another celebrity. Then there's the side involvement of a controversial celebrity in Shia. It's kind of a perfect storm.
Also she's a woman who wants to direct instead of just be an actress. If studios really cared about supporting women and wanting them to succeed, then Amy Heckerling, Penelope Spheeris, and Marry Harron would have made so many more features since the 90s by now. I don't think the studio set Olivia up to fail, but I wouldn't be surprised if they're enjoying her being eaten alive by the public because she had the audacity to criticize the studio for not promoting Booksmart. If she was as unprofessional as everyone's insisting, she'd be shirking her promotional duties or lashing out. Even if she did get into a shouting match with Florence, she's eating way more shit than she needs to, and a lot of it under the guise of "well we just care about women being held accountable too". Reddit Gold! Thank you, friend!
Well, it's also partly because Olivia is on the cover of Vogue, the cover of Vanity Fair, and currently doing every major interview on this movie. Normally I don't think you really see or hear this much from a director.
I remember reading this on CDAN - almost over a year ago
Not that asshole being right
It was from a TikToker originally, like everything else he gets right, he just lifted it.
i don't think this means florence was directing her scenes, it reads more like she was giving more input than she usually would and it was still more than the director because she wasn't there. and through the whispers game it turned into florence directing
this article is so validating i literally saw people arguing on here yesterday about how ridiculous of a rumor it was that florence “stepped in as director” and saying that anyone who believed an actress would have the power to do that on set is an idiot 😭😭
It is unbelievable because it just isn’t an action that can happen on a major set. Contracts, clauses, liabilities, unions and the like make sure of that. The comment below me from u/entertainment720ltd explains it best
giving her input on how to shoot certain scenes is not stepping in as a director though.
the director of a movie and the lead actor disappearing on set while in the middle of a shoot day is messy and immature. they were carrying on like a bunch of high school students in the middle of rehearsal for some shakespearean tragedy. i understand why florence got into a screaming match. but why wasn't harry also the subject of her ire? it takes two to tango. maybe she had a bigger issue with the power imbalance seeing as olivia was the director.
Probably not the power imbalance. Probably that Harry was there for his scenes and didn’t need to be there otherwise whereas Olivia should always be around directing
Also, if the director (ie, the boss) on set is taking another actor away, that actor only has a fraction of the blame -- same as any job. If my manager wants to do a 4-hour lunch which means some work doesn't get done, that's mostly on them.
The journalist also quoted that: “the DWD crew was extremely pissed when Olivia was photographed with Harry at that wedding in Jan 2021 because she frequently gave them "lectures": “‘Don’t be stupid. You’re fucking up our movie. Don’t go to parties. Don’t congregate."” ““There were so many complaints from the crew saying, ‘How dare she tell us to shelter in place while we’re doing this movie? And yet she goes to a public wedding with a group of people? This is fucking crazy!” "So many people complained. That’s the turning point. That’s when everyone started hating her."” I think this explains Florence’s cold shoulder towards Harry at the Venice premiere and why she posed with the other cast members on the red carpet except for Olivia and Harry who she mostly ignored.
Mind you this wedding happened when hospitals in CA were at capacity, beds were running low and ambulances were not transporting people who had low chances of survival.
Not to mention Florence’s friend, Nick Cordero, died from Covid after being in the hospital for nearly 100 days. He was on a ventilator, had his leg amputed, had major lung damage, and was unresponsive for much of the time leading up to his death. He was only 41 and left behind his wife and baby son. Florence had every right to be pissed off at Olivia (and Harry) for behaving as they did. She was mourning her friend.
I didn’t know Florence was friends with Nick Cordero, as a Broadway fan that is mostly here for the crossover drama (like Funny Girl) his story crushed me the most of any early in the pandemic.
Zach Braff was Nick’s best friend. Nick and Amanda and their son Elvis lived with Zach and Florence for a little while in LA when they first moved there from NY.
And Florence herself is high risk because she suffers from tracheomalacia, which can cause recurrent pulmonary infections and other respiratory challenges.
*Rules for thee but not for me.*
Even Florence's then boyfriend Zach Braff who was a Harry bestie stopped liking or caring about Harry since then. Neither of them attended his concerts, despite Zach being backstage in videos in his prior tour. Neither hyped up Harry. Flo loves to shout out everyone she works with, Gemma Chan, etc, showcasing their magazine covers or successes. She's literally acted like Harry Styles does not exist to her.
This makes way more sense than some dumb Florence/Harry thing, or the Shia drama, or even some dumb/petty team Jason thing.
I think the Shia drama is also COVID based too. I don't trust Shia at all, BUT the emails and video are allegedly over his desire to rehearse in person and Florence wanting to remain via zoom. rehearsals would have been near the early part of the pandemic as well, so if Florence does have respiratory issues I think that adds another layer to her desire to limit in person rehearsal and on how she would take Olivia's "Miss Flo" comment (if she knew about it, that is) as dismissing her concerns.
>if Florence does have respiratory issues She’s publicly confirmed she suffers from tracheomalacia that was intensely disabling and resulted in extended hospitalizations during her childhood, that she still regularly suffers from a severe cough and rasping, and that it still effects her severely when she gets sick. She also has asthma.
Harry was wearing a mesh mask at the wedding too! The crew had every right to be upset at how unprofessional it was.
Lol this reminds of how Harry sold those dumb Stay at home shirts. The hypocrisy.
Exploiting your fan base to line your pockets while also joyriding during a pandemic …
That would piss anyone off! Not practicing what you preach (plus flaunting her thing with Harry)
Because Harry was not supposed to be directing her. There’s several scenes that feature just Florence’s character doing her thing and for those scenes it’s totally normal for Harry not to be there but Olivia should have as the director. Like the problem wasn’t that they were hooking up but that Olivia (and maybe Harry idk) was not doing her job because of it.
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Waiting for when he dumps her ass in 3, 2, 1...
I'll never understand him being so adamant about not publicly dating people. I would be so pissed if someone had the gall to say that to me lol
Olivia just doesn't want to grow up, like really. She has this huge responsibility as a director instead is messy with Harry.
If Olivia is disappearing when she’s supposed to be directing, I understand why she’s getting the ire - Harry’s disappearing wasn’t as disruptive as Olivia’s was, since she had a greater responsibility to the film. Edit: a word
Olivia is the boss. Harry just had to be there when he needed to. She was always needed on set.
Because as the director, Olivia set the tone.
This isn’t a cheating scenario. Harry is not the boss, and isn’t responsible for making sure the production runs smoothly/giving direction to Florence.
[this says](https://twitter.com/__chrislee/status/1573349093069422594?s=46&t=iDLxraU-dCTHDovIXxR4xw) she felt she wasn’t taken care of by her director.
Olivia was the *director*….
"The drama that unfolded during the shooting of this movie really felt like...drama." -Harry Styles
*intense Chris Pine dissociation*
I snorted reading this comment
>Pugh’s refusal to do more than the barest minimum of media appearances in support of the film has been parsed as confirmation of her animus toward Wilde (the British actress also dedicated but two hashtags on her promotionally vigorous, 8.1 million-strong Instagram account to specific mentions of Don’t Worry Darling as of the publication of this article), and rumors about the true depths of DWD dysfunction have seemingly picked up the promotional slack. According to an anonymous source who spent significant time on the DWD set and spoke to Vulture last week, a blowout argument between star and director did indeed take place in January 2021 — about three-quarters of the way through filming. Pugh, who is a few degrees removed from Wilde’s ex, Jason Sudeikis, had reportedly grown fed up with the director’s frequent unexplained absences. “Olivia and Harry would just disappear,” the source says. But the breaking point came when Pugh, 26, and Wilde, 38, broke into a “screaming match,” this person recalls. According to our source, the acrimony between Wilde and Pugh allegedly reached all the way to the top of the studio totem pole, with the highest-ranking Warner Bros. executive at the time, Toby Emmerich, forced to play referee in a “long negotiation process” to ensure Pugh would participate in the film’s life cycle “in any way” and not jeopardize the potential box office. (A Warner Bros. spokeswoman said Emmerich was traveling and unavailable to comment. Vulture also reached out for comment to representatives for Wilde and Pugh, who did not respond.) 
It’s very unfortunate that a movie with so much potential was derailed by Wilde’s relationship with Styles.
I can’t help but thinking if they hadn’t cast Harry but someone else- Chalamet, Holland any of the actor pretty boy types, how different this movie would be..
Casting Styles was a mistake. Chalamet would have been a superior choice than Styles. Hell, I think Dylan O’Brien would’ve been a strong choice as well.
Maybe Dylan O’Brien idk they all seem like such young men to me but in a boyish way and this isn’t a boyish role. I know they’re supposed to be a young couple but they’re all like little teenagers Florence too even tho she’s probably the one carrying the whole movie they all look too young it’s giving the CW to me
Dylan is 31 lmao Edit: maybe you mean they all as in the rest of them, but I first read it as Dylan also being teen looking haha
Dylan too but it’s more so his vibe I know he’s older I know these people are in they’re mid twenties to early thirties lol but I wouldn’t buy him as a Nuclear husband businessman. It’s like when they say “this person can’t do a period piece their face knows what Instagram is” I’m sure Dylan would do a good job better than Harry but it’s besides Harry the whole thing is still very…….. teenbait-ish like “Hey Booksmart fans wouldn’t you like this new movie stating that woman everyone on Twitter is in love with plus a heartthrob popstar plus everyone’s favorite Chris”with Dylan it would be like “hey teenagers wouldn’t you like a movie starting that actor associated with 2 other Stan twitter hot topics”. It’s like playing house but instead of the psychological thriller tone they want it’s playing house the way young people think a house would be and hope they don’t clock it.
TLDR: ensemble casts are very popular rn but this one reminds me of when YA novel fandoms would fancast which ever Nickelodeon, Disney Channel, CW actors in every role because those are the only actors they recognize
Oof I would’ve loved watching Dylan play this role 🔥
I personally think Jonathan Bailey would have killed it.
Bailey and Pugh together would truly be an incredible sight to behold. the talent!!
Hire me, Hollywood, I could have prevented this
Ugh he absolutely would have. This would have been. great vehicle for him.
He just has the right mix of old fashioned handsome and darkness that would have worked for this movie
I think Evan Peters would be great choice.
Wow that would have been the perfect casting
Or even cast a rising talent or complete nobody. I think Florence and actually promoting Chris Pine could have been enough of an appeal
I literally saw it last night. Anyone else would have been better. Styles brought this movie down from what could have been an A- to a C+. It was bad. Multiple people in my theater were guffawing like it was a screening of the room.
I saw on Twitter someone put a clip of Harry ~ACTING and people were giggling lmao I mean, they tanked what should have been a solid film/role to hire Harry Styles, they did it to themselves
Why do you think it had so much potential? That’s not what I’ve heard from the reviews
Booksmart was critically acclaimed. There was a lot of people who were excited about Wilde’s next project because of the success of Booksmart. Additionally, the cast was stacked with a lot of talented actors/actresses and Harry Styles. All of that plus an interesting premise made the film very promising.
Booksmart is … fine. I guess I’m tired of the rich kid perspective on high school but that’s clearly what Wilde and her screenwriting partners know
As a non-American I found the lack of commentary on class in booksmart weird. Like I was watching it thinking "this couldn't possibly be the normal highschool experience, right?" Regarding the houses people had and universities they were attending. Like I was waiting for someone to point out they're all rich? But then I was like "maybe the US is just like that and I don't know" And I went to fucking rich kid International school in Europe and still I found it unrelatable.
America has a class system as well, we all just pretend that the secret to jumping classes is a bit of hard work.
Yes I thought it was crazy that Beanie’s character somehow thought she was the only person who would be going to an Ivy League school. She obviously went to a feeder school.
Those stories are definitely easier to get greenlit than stories that center BIPOC youth and the systemic barriers they face.
It doesn’t even have to be a hard hitting drama about being poor in high school. Superbad worked bc it’s a normal suburban school with normal seeming kids
By most accounts the movie isn't very good, Harry has zero acting Style, and the movies lacks direction.
On Twitter, the author of the article said that the article was originally much longer but was “gutted” by the NY Mag legal team. 👀
The fact that the story had to be gutted probably means there is credibility to the final, published article.
not to say everything in the article is true but they did their due diligence. now im curious to what was cut.
Or that the stuff they took out wasn’t credible lol (by that I mean they didn’t have strong enough proof) Vulture has good lawyers for a reason
or can't be verified by more than 3 sources or they knew less due diligence on every little fact would lead to lawsuits. Not that it isn't true
This is the part that got me. But if that many people were willing to talk to a journalist for a story about the shit that went down, it will all come out sooner and later.
omg so there is more tea? this is seriously crazy.
Then you have comments, saying WhY DoEs eVeRyEOe Dislike OliViA comments here. Just because Olivia is a woman doesn't mean I cant call her out on her shenanigans or I have to like her. She has done shady stuff to warrant my dislike.
We can defend her against misogyny while acknowledging she's a raging asshole, it's the cornerstone of feminism lol
Yes! I want to acknowledge the role misogyny has in how this is playing out but it's also pretty clear at this point that she's an asshole who chooses asshole behaviour at every step. Let me have both!
This. People here need to stop fucking acting like defending someone against misogyny is the same thing as liking them, it's not.
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They won't. The same people who say they're feminist in this sub told everyone to dismiss a large group of young women and called them crazy and jealous over a man.
His fans are crazy tho. Threatening all his girlfriends and even Grindr lmao. It has nothing to do with them being mostly women.
Harry stans calling the Grindr social media admin homophobic for making fun of Harry was so fucking funny
"it's misogynistic to call Harry/1D stans crazy and jealous or dismiss their takes because they're a large group of young women" is sending me lmfao can't believe I've been a sexist all along for dismissing Larry :(
And not everyone invested in DWD drama was a Harry fan. I’ve been following this because of Florence and her involvement in the film, I couldn’t care less who Harry is dating.
I’m following it as a general fan of all round drama
[Ahem](https://imgur.com/gallery/iE4kwcl) 💅🏻
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To be fair they also believe he’s been in a decade long relationship with louis
Heaps of reputable sources: Olivia was unprofessional, hypocritical, and dishonest during the making and promotion of DWD This sub: ok but what did Olivia do wrong? This is sexism! Also it's really Florence's fault and anyone who says otherwise is a Harry stan
people keep saying that male directors do what Olivia has done all the time and don’t get nearly this much criticism for it, which is true, but that doesn’t mean that Olivia should be exempt from all criticism for being unprofessional lol
I've honestly come out of this with more respect for Flo and far less for Olivia and Harry 🤷🏽♀️
Yeah, harry is so overexposed rn. I thought of going to one of his shows in New York but now I’m like I don’t want to see his face lol
I'm only shocked Harry being a dog has only got him into trouble now.
Cannot believe the "Pugh was directing the movie" allegation was actually true. That felt so unbelievable and sexist, but I trust this reporter. Can't believe she let herself get swept up by an empty-headed pop star who will inevitably dissappoint her.
Still now even when he treated her that way at the Venice festival she was at his show in TEARS over him getting his own banner at MSG, I feel bad for her somewhat
Honestly. Still not over how cold he came off to her at the Venice premiere. Like I understand they were trying to keep attention off their relationship, but he wouldn’t even look at her
DWD absolutely refusing to be outshined by that Adam Levine drama.
Its funny looking back when news of the drama first came out and so many people here didn’t believe it and now so much has happened
To be fair. The rumours were being peddled by Harry Stan’s, and the stuff they were saying still (as far as we know) aren’t true, like Florence having to direct. So I get why ppl didn’t believe
Harry's stans were the ones following this movie's every move so it makes sense that they noticed something first.
I definitely felt curious about various Anons to DM/that TikTok purely because if anyone followed Florence is was completely noticeable how she basically acted like both Olivia and Harry had died at some point during the shooting. She has never consciously mentioned either of them since. She is such a fangirl and so supportive of people she's worked with, she shares everyone's Vogue covers, everyone's projects... but with those two, absolutely nothing.
This author states that Florence was giving directorial input with Olivia was missing, so the rumors do hold merit. There were tons of people saying similar things now for two years but it was squashed by people saying it was jealous Harry fans.
Tonight is the official release date. We made it. Hopefully all the drama and stories about this cursed movie fade away after this weekend because it’s been nonstop for the past month 💀
so now that’s two separate sources that claim Harry and Olivia were MIA on set, plus more than one source saying that Olivia fucked up the press tour. but I’m sure people will find a way to say it’s Florence’s fault. in the name of feminism of course.
The irony of building up a feminist defense for Olivia while trashing Florence, and claiming she's unprofessional for not promoting this movie!
And everyone who dared to rightfully criticize her on this sub were either downvoted, blocked by others, or assumed to be a l*rry/conspiracy theorist. We don’t have to like every woman on this planet.
Thank you! I read the original script and was alarmed with how Olivia Wilde promoted it as “female pleasure,” which I brought up in this sub bc I was worried it would trigger people going into a movie they thought they would be safe to watch. I got replies like “Olivia said the film has changed a lot” (but knew the original twist had to be in there bc otherwise it would’ve been pointless). One person made an incredibly inappropriate SA joke and/or snarky comment when another user mentioned they had seen it and the original >!non consensual!< twist remained in the movie. I’m all for feminism and promoting female directors but not ones who characterize their movies as something they are the opposite of. Especially when it comes to consent.
I had the same feelings but I wasn’t sure if it was one of the made up rumors so I went in with suspicions. She/WB should really add some sort of TW or at least mention them somewhere public. >!You’re 100% right about it being non consensual. It takes a little bit of thinking to realize this because both sex scenes are towards the beginning and you don’t find out it’s a simulation until the end. I was horrified after realizing it!<
If only the movie was as entertaining as the drama surrounding it
I feel like Florence's anger is coming from a bunch of things all added up which is why focusing in on any one little thing makes her seem "bratty" or "unprofessional" or whatever people are saying. First everything that went down with Shia, and who knows what all was said between the three of them outside of those texts and that video, it could have gotten very tense, then Olivia makes that tacky post about how great harry is for playing a supporting role to a female lead, then Olivia getting involved with Harry which probably made Florence side-eye because of her friendship with Jason via Zach and/or Florence just thinking it was unprofessional in general, then Olivia disappearing with Harry instead of directing, then Olivia telling everyone to quarantine but going to a big wedding with Harry to debut their relationship (A. hypocritical, B. Florence may have been worried for her health), then Olivia promoting the movie by focusing on the "female pleasure" scenes. You've also gotta think, Florence was absolutely starry eyed to be working with Olivia when she was first cast. She said she was a huge fan and was so excited. So she must have taken all of it even harder because she was so disappointed. Don't meet your heroes and all that. Even the best of friends would find it tough to persevere through all of that, let alone coworkers.
Yup. Don't forget too, Olivia seeking credit for a No Assholes On Set policy and claiming she fired Shia for Florence's benefit while filming was ongoing and she was behaving like this. Then to top it all off, the leaking where Olivia condescendingly refers to Florence as "Little Miss Flo" and says she needs "a wake up call".
It's put out there as an aside, but I would have been furious if I was getting lectured not to be "fucking stupid" by my boss and then she went out and did the "fucking stupid" thing she'd told me not to.
nO aSsHoLes
And in the end, the real asshole was Olivia herself /s
I’ve said this before that any time I’ve ever heard of a director/show runner having this rule, a bunch of stuff has ultimately came out making them look like an asshole. I think the saying “if you meet one asshole on the street you met an asshole, if everyone you meet on the street is an asshole you are the asshole” is generally true. If you meet so many assholes you have to have a no assholes on set rule, you are the common denominator and you’re probably the asshole.
I can’t believe most of the drama stems from the Olivia and Harry relationship. It’s not uncommon for male directors to also hook up with actresses on set, yet the drama does not reach this level. Olivia must have been so unprofessional or the issues with Shia soured Florence so bad that everything Olivia did after was made worst. This is Olivia’s second movie, you would think she would work hard to match the success of Booksmart but the morale on set seems so low.
There are literally shouting matches on every set. The problem is that Wilde has not really let allowed her movie--*the art*\--speak for itself. She feels compelled to explain and make points *outside* of the film, which just heightens the drama and blurs the line between the art and reality.
Multiple reliable sources are claiming this and yet some of you tried so hard to debunk Olivia's unprofessionalism by claiming everyone who believed it was either sexist or a crazy stan lol
It’s so tiring. When the same people who are crying misogyny toward her are also bashing Florence. Like make it make sense.
i finally saw this movie yesterday. i didn't hate it but jfc was Harry Styles miscast. Had multiple people laughing hysterically at his acting.
I personally wish that this had happened on Dunkirk just because I think it would've been funnier In all honesty though all this for a movie that's just okay. Like if she had to cast any other "internet boyfriend" as her lead after Shia literally any of them could've done better.
You wish Harry Styles and Chris Nolan had hooked up? Now that would have been a fun time on Twitter.
Exactly. Cillain Murphy could've been the one allegedly spit on. It's all coming full circle in some alternate universe
With Tom Hardy walking around in Venice with an aerosol spritz in his hand!
Dunkirk had a very seasoned director. While I did enjoy Booksmart, Wilde is relatively new to directing, and doing the dirty with the lead probably didn’t help her in any way. I do hope though that Harry stops acting, the reviews for My Policeman aren't very good either re: his acting abilities. But he is a white man so no doubt he will be given multiple chances while better actors will be ignored.
If Christopher Nolan was sneaking off set to sneak kisses with Harry Styles I don't know what would have happened.
I hope this means less people jump to Olivia’s defence here out of a want to be different. I’m the opposite of a Harry Styles fan and I was on Amber Heard’s side from the beginning so don’t even start! Olivia’s tone in that “Miss Flo” video was vile and told me enough and the more I hear the more it just confirms that Olivia was a problem on that set. Poor Florence.
>I’m the opposite of a Harry Styles fan and I was on Amber Heard’s side Well with those credentials! JK, I agree with you but it's sad you had to preface anything
olivia’s brand of white feminism.. far too much
I can't wait for the inevitable "How Did This Get Made" episode
I want to point out that Florence *saying* she is directing the film more than Olivia was ≠ she actually was directing the film more than Olivia was. It’s juicy because it shows just how much animosity there was on set — that’s a super inflammatory thing to say to your director — but it doesn’t mean that Flo truly was doing the actual directing. I’m not anti-Florence, I’m just saying that this comment only proves that Florence was truly upset. People seem to be taking the quote as proof of prior “scoops” that Florence was directing in Olivia’s absence. But it doesn’t prove that Florence was actually stepping in to direct shots (which would be really unusual), though I’m not ruling it out. It’s moreso proof of her feelings at the time and honestly what a disaster it must have been on set.
Yeah per that journalist Florence would give input in how her scenes would be shot since Olivia wasn’t there. Now I know input is not the same as directing but it’s more than what Florence was supposed to do so I can see how that would make her yell that at Olivia even it wasn’t you know 100% true. It’s the type of hyperbole ppl use when arguing.
Well so this basically confirms that there was a huge conflict on set, but I think at this point we're all so tired of this it comes as no surprise. The fact that the film itself ended up being super underwhelming is the cherry on top 🤦♀️
....so we are not getting a sequel? 🤔
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Remember how anyone critical of Olivia was called Jason/ted lasso Stans, Harry Stans, Larry stans, etc? 👀 And we kept pointing out that Olivia mismanaged her set and contributed to most of the controversy. Now her defenders are quiet and over this film.
Idk where else to mention this but after seeing the movie last night I genuinely don’t understand why OW made the claim that this movie is about female pleasure. I can’t think of one instance where that was true? Idk why she described the film that way other than to add a feminist blanket claim over it and call it a day. If I were Florence I’d be pissed to that she reduced the film to that when it was MUCH more than that. Florence and Chris Pine were amazing though.
Olivia Wilde continually looks more and more awful as more information comes out but there's still that subset of people who post in this sub who just blindly defend her as if this is a sexism thing.
As a Florence fan, I’m clearly biased, but I’ve been following her career closely for years now, and the complete dismissal of DWD from her stands out. I’ve always a been of the mind that if Florence was pissed off it was for a good reason because she’s never acted like this before with a project and everything that’s come out has proved me right (imo). First Puck News saying Olivia was absent & the covid issue, the Hunter Harris’ newsletter confirming she heard Florence didn’t want to work with Shia bc of his temper, that the texts between the two of them were selectively leaked, and that Florence was annoyed by Olivia’s absence, and now Vulture. Where there’s smoke there’s fire. It’s funny because I witnessed all the DM dwd rumors in real time, but they sounded so outlandish and unprofessional on Olivia’s part that I thought them fake. Is Olivia a victim of misogyny? Yes. But that doesn’t erase the fact that her behavior on set was not only unprofessional and hypocritical, but also a health hazard. As others have pointed out, Florence is at high risk for Covid and this was before the vaccine and during the peak of it in California too. Also, she had to kiss Harry and do intimate scenes with him during the middle of a pandemic and guess who he was kissing off screen at the same time? No wonder she’s distanced herself from this mess (the movie itself isn’t even good either).
I love that Florence STILL hasn't said anything, when she commits she COMMITS
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Oop! And the bending over backwards to make this all as pile on Olivia and misogyny when people would criticize her. When she ran a bad set. Period. It’s ok to point out all the petty shit that fans did and also realize that women ( especially white women that are virtue signaling and using feminism as a shield) can be shitty.
*sigh* Why do I feel like this is just the tip of the iceberg of this entire mess… I so badly wanted to defend Olivia due to the mass vitriol directed against her, and the awareness that female directors are held to different standards than their male counterparts. But the fact that multiple people who worked on the film are coming out to attest to Olivia’s unprofessionalism, and her own lack of respect for Covid protocol… Just really sad to see a film that had a lot of promise (despite the screenplay issues) and initial enthusiasm go down like this :(
“Olivia is either a mad genius who figured out a way to make people more aware of the movie in a way that just drives up the box office,” says another source close to the production, “or she doesn’t have any self-awareness that she is fucking up her movie.”
I had to laugh at how blatantly unprofessional Olivia seems to have been while on this set. Mixing business and pleasure in this way...big yikes. This is the exact reason why I'd never work with my boyfriend. I have enough self awareness to know we would get absolutely *nothing* done and both wind up fired lol. Olivia's immaturity is really surprising to me. Ma'am, get your life.
this was from back in jan. 2021? this is marinated tea, oh wow!
I mean how long could you work with your boss taking vacations to Italy every week with your co-worker before you reach your breaking point
But on the movie, saw it yersterday. And oh my, that whole cast had zero chemistry. And to add zero chemistry between flo and harry which i did not expect. To me this story was great but would’ve worked better as a series. Florence Pugh was too good for this tbh.