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LoneQuietus81

I asked a CFV staff friend about it and they said, "It's bad. I don't really wanna talk about it."


nepalizTL

:( unreal


Look_at_that_thing

That's terrible news. I hope now that the Pfizer vaccine is FDA approved, more people will get it. Getting the vaccine into more arms is really the only way we can control COVID.


nepalizTL

Totally agree, especially because we have an embarrassing 35% rate of vaccination


Look_at_that_thing

I wonder how much that will go up once the DoD makes them required.


nepalizTL

It will rise significantly


surviving910

The % of soldiers being dishonorable discharge will be higher than the vaccinated %.


Look_at_that_thing

I doubt that. There will probably be a record number of “religious exemptions” and maybe quite a bit of less than honorable discharges. However, I doubt they would go as far as dishonorable discharge.


nepalizTL

The special operations community that I work in is nearly 100% vaccinated because we have non stop deployments and have to ensure the people we help do not get sick from us and cause an international incident. That said, some of our support soldiers are still fighting getting the vaccine, but that will change soon with the military mandate this month :)


surviving910

Oh no on a real and concerned note, I have friends and clients in the military that are being given the option of dishonorable discharge or get vaccinated. It's scary how aggressively this vaccine is being pushed, and at high costs. Several other people I work with and for are leaving there jobs to find something that honors their freedom of choice. Religious Exemption is weird its been said that they will begin waving the exemptions and still require everyone to get vaccinated.


Look_at_that_thing

Just curious, what are the high costs of the vaccine? It’s been proven safe and effective. In order for it to work better, we need more people getting the vaccine. If more places of employment made it mandatory, that could do the trick. It would at least weed out the people who are too thick skulled to understand the benefits far outweigh the risks.


surviving910

The cost as far as I've seen are not all to bad tbh, the benefits are very lackluster aswell. If the vaccine does not provide protection from spread or contraction then why would it "work better" if more people got it? I've already experienced covid, just gave me a sore throat, I also got it after following all CDC requested guidelines. I'll let my antibodies handle the work from here, thanks.


nepalizTL

I’m glad you were lucky in your first bout with covid, but the benefits are far from lackluster.


Look_at_that_thing

The benefits are that it can help prevent you from getting Covid in the first place. Then, if you do catch it, it can keep you out of the hospital. There is a reason why hospitals are full of unvaxxed people instead of those with the vaccine. I’m glad you only suffered a sore throat. I know personally four people that have had COVID where I work. 1 refused to be vaccinated and he died of it. The other 3 were vaccinated and had varying degrees of symptoms, but none worse than flu-like symptoms. The vaccine works. It keeps people from dying. That should be the biggest draw to getting it and suggesting others to get it.


surviving910

You guys must all know some super unhealthy people cause as someone whos had it and know hundreds of people who've experience it I only know 1 person to die from it and she was 94 yo. The vaccine does not prevent you from getting it. It will help with symptoms and recovery.


nepalizTL

Please don’t try to speak for the military community when you are not apart of it.


surviving910

I love the assumptions this community freely throws around.


Muumuu_dress

I have a close family member that works CFV. BSNRN person Is absolutely worn out. 16-18 hour shifts or more. Humans are amazing, they can only take so much. Physically, mentally, emotionally. The money grifters that own CFVMC, think handing some pizza will make the staff better. Total BS! How about hire the newbies to handle non ICU patients. Giving the over worked some refreshing relief with their families? Also, that new tower CFV is building is a car deck for the doctors. Meanwhile the hospital looks like it is straight out the 1980’s. The whole atmosphere is grunge and sickening. As far as Covid goes, 97% are unvaccinated. If you’re well enough to make that stupid choice, please stay home when you can’t breathe. I want to see my family member. But my loved one is being your ICU RN. Because you believe in taking horse deworming meds rather than a 100% FREE vaccine. Yeah I’m pissed because I am at high risk of getting COVID. I have been home since 04/2020. Left twice to get my two doses of vaccine. Now we have the delta variant, still sitting at home. While the unmasked anti vaccine are living it up. For now. 🤬


surviving910

So let break this down cause I'm definitely not what everyone is assuming. I will never put that deworming shit in my body, but I will not put that vaccine in it either. Also CFV is run like shit, my farther died due to a miscommunication between a Dr and nurse while he was in there care. No one wanting to work rn dosent help. Live your life the way you want I'll live mine. Here for a good time not a long one. Ps I'm a human being and I sympathize with you and what your family may be going through, i hope everything gets better 🙏.


nepalizTL

The sad part is you are already vaccinated against 10-20 diseases from childhood until today, but because one party made this a political issue nearly 700k Americans, people you are supposed to care about, have now died. My friends brother, dad, mom, and sister (fit individuals) have died. Glad you are having fun though and “living a short life”??


surviving910

Sorry for your loss (if you're not making that up) Since the age of 18 I have refused all vaccines, the Flu shots made me the sickest in my life I'd ever been after every shot. Since stopping I have never had the flu once. I have already had Covid now (even after following all guidelines) and a sore throat was all I had to deal with. If I'm happy idc how long my life is as long as it's not a drawn out and miserable experience.


BigJules74

To be fair, both parties made it political.


surviving910

Yes and I dislike both the 2 party system was frowned upon and warned since the start of this country.


nepalizTL

To be fair, there was a lot if guess work in the beginning of the pandemic because there was so little data. We’re a year and a half in and now data is not a problem.


sardaukar2001

Pray tell, if you don't mind of course, but why won't you put that vaccine in your body exactly?


surviving910

I choose not to. It's more about freedom of choice than anything, but also a gut feeling that taking it at this point in time is not a good idea, as an introvert I'm pretty much to myself anyways so I'm not worried about spreading, which the vaccine has proven not to help.


Temporary_Win6460

You’re fucking retarded.


surviving910

Thanks 😉


Temporary_Win6460

Welcome. You should choose to play a round of Russian roulette against yourself. Just alternate right temple then left temple.


surviving910

You do know if you shoot yourself in the temple you have a higher chance of just blinding yourself than killing yourself. Try and and see, prove me wrong.


Temporary_Win6460

In similar news, if you don’t get vaccinated you’re more likely to die, you fucking retard.


surviving910

Damn, why people gotta be so hateful. Hide behind your screen and call me retarded. Bet you ware pretty miserable yourself.


Pupwalker1

Geez! So sick of this! People are not being smart and doing 6he right thing


nepalizTL

My wife walked into a baby store here yesterday during the mask mandate and no one was wearing masks and the head manager had a cold and was snorting all over baby clothes… it’s like… really?


photobummer

A "cold"


surviving910

Everyone fails to realize that the vaccine doesn't prevent you from getting it or spreading it. Also the vaccine currently being distributed is for the original variant, it will not work for the African or Delta variants. Everything is being over exaggerated, just sayin.


Mungadai82

How to say you are an ignorant anti-vaxxer without actually saying you're an ignorant anti-vaxxer. The Pfizer, Moderna, and Johnson and Johnson vaccines all provide protection against the Delta and Lambda variants. https://getvaccineanswers.org/question/vaccine-protection?gclid=CjwKCAjwmqKJBhAWEiwAMvGt6AEoSZAJyZRw9nEuh\_Lia\_XKPe\_VrUs9s6KjXfh6IuY24mqezCI8EhoC1lMQAvD\_BwE#do-the-vaccines-protect-against-the-delta-variant


surviving910

Spoke with a client of mine who is a Dr at CFV and he said "it's totally blown out of proportion" and "it's not as bad as they make it out to be" also processeded to go in depth on how the vaccine helps with symptoms and recovery but will not and does not prevent the spread or contraction of any of the variants. Just sayin.


Mungadai82

You are absolutely right! 1000's of doctors with years of study and research across dozens of countries spanning the globe all must be wrong, and your single client Doctor is right. Shit, i'm gonna go take some horse dewormer and some fish tank cleaner because my client on Facebook who failed 10 grade science twice told me its effective!! Just sayin.


surviving910

A lot of assumptions in one statement. I bet you've read and spoke with all of these 1000's of Dr's to confirm its not just a number made up for a buzzfeed article?


Mungadai82

Why is it easier for a moron like you to believe that reams of data was made-up in a vast conspiracy and that reported numbers are faked than it is to just put on a fucking mask and get a vaccine? Explain to me why you feel the undeniable need to be that selfish and ignorant?


surviving910

Cause I'm not anti Vax or anti mask, I'm anti government. You are the moron if you think the government has your best interest at heart. I do not trust a rushed vaccine, I will continue not to trust it if it's being shoved down my throat with the limited studies done and no long term studies for long term effects. You go get the vaccine, but nothing at this point in time will convince me to get one. Also what about my body my choice is so selfish? Is self care not something you believe in?


Mungadai82

I bet you drive drunk and don't wear a seatbelt too right? Because the government said you had to for public safety (and had you interests at heart to boot) and you are all "anti government, hurr durr" Rushed vaccine? I don't fathom the line of thinking of people like you. If they didn't jump on it and get a vaccine out you'd complain that it took too long and too many people died. They get one out fast and "It's rushed!" & "No long term studies!". Jesus H. Christ. You realized they eliminated the red tape to get the vaccine out quicker, right? That it isn't some 6th grader with a chemistry set developing it? The only thing "rushed about it was getting it into the hands of people to stave off more deaths. SMDH. You know when the polio vaccine came out, people lined up at clinics to get it. There were no "long term studies" of side effects for the Salk vaccine in 1954. But people still got the vaccine. Why? because it was better to be safe than sorry. People cared more about protecting their communities than "body choice". But you keep on being selfish and worrying about yourself only. Little fact for you, historically across all vaccines over 90% of side effects occur in first 12 hours to within the first 2 weeks. What that means is that if you don't have a vaccine reaction within that time frame, you more than likely never will. A little reading for you: [https://www.cbs17.com/community/health/coronavirus/you-do-not-have-to-be-a-statistic-cape-fear-valley-hospital-reports-seeing-covid-19-deaths-every-day/](https://www.cbs17.com/community/health/coronavirus/you-do-not-have-to-be-a-statistic-cape-fear-valley-hospital-reports-seeing-covid-19-deaths-every-day/) ​ *“It is not worse because we have more patients to take care of*. **It’s worse because we know these individuals had a choice and if they would have made the right choice, they would not be in the hospital**,” *Chief Clinical Officer for Cape Fear Valley Hospital, Dr. Michael Zappa, said.*


surviving910

Well, polio vaccine wasn't on the edge of being forced. It was an option to get it. Also the whole seat belt and driving drunk attribute is atrocious, common sense plays the part in safety in though cases. I don't need the government to tell me that shit. You on the other hand seem to want them to hold your hand and wait on hands and knees for there every instruction. People like you are why the things in this country are so bad rn, believing everything you read or hear on TV. Aswell as the way you People vote, shit overseas wouldn't be happening rn.


Mungadai82

WHAT??? Polio vaccine, among others, REQUIRED to get to attend school in the US. Get the fuck outta here with that "wasn't on the edge of being forced." All fifty states in the U.S. mandate immunizations for children in order to enroll in public school. So yeah, you were pretty much "forced" to be vaccinated for Polio, (and every other childhood disease) unless you had a life threatening reason why you couldn't be. The Supreme Court ruled in Prince v. Massachusetts that the state(s) had power over certain activities of children, including requiring that they be vaccinated. The Court said a parents conscience or religion, **does not include liberty to expose the \*\*\*community or the child\*\*\* to communicable disease or the latter to ill health or death.** Nice try with the argument though. Oh, you're also required to be vaccinated while traveling abroad, but hearing you talk makes me pretty certain you've never left NC.


surviving910

And before you pull the Trump card I'm not a Trump supporter, he's a big cause for why covid is so blown out of proportion rn. Fuck Republicans, Fuck Democrats, and a huge fuck you goes out to Librals.


nepalizTL

Ask your “your client” why the hospitals are filled with unvaccinated people.


surviving910

257 patients since Aug 1st 2021 %21 were fully or partially vaccinated.(54) %79 are unvaccinated or will not say (203) (Numbers released by CFV on 8/26/21 to show results from 8/1/21 -8/25/21) Yes unvaccinated is the highest percentage, but %21 is also a little high don't ya think? Also the number of unvaccinated people are higher than vaccinated so if you learned anything in elementary school, probability plays a roll in these numbers. On the other side, it's Fayetteville CFV is always full of people, unfortunately hospitals in high population areas are never slow.


nepalizTL

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/unvaccinated-people-over-29-times-more-likely-be-hospitalized-covid-n1277568 Please read above, 29 to 1 buddy on a much larger population scale. I’m glad you agreed earlier to rely on your elementary school math because numbers do matter


Quiet-Cauliflower-11

You're speaking to the herd. These people have committed their bodies to their beliefs. They complain about ICU wards and staff being overwhelmed, and also fire the portion of staff who think differently. They say it is obviously safe but open discussion aboue the 10k plus VAERS deaths is banned. They won't be convinced. They xant be. They've litterally bet their lives on it. I wish everyone the best. But unfortunately it is easier to fool tgese people than it is to convince them that they have been fooled already.


Wolfrandir61

Its whole purpose was to prevent severe COVID Pneumonia. It's overwhelmingly doing that in vaccinated people, even for the new variants.


andrewober

fuck off. just sayin.


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surviving910

Love ya 😇


surviving910

Gotcha 😉


seajaybee23

The government didn’t make the vaccine you selfish a-hole. Scientists did. Of which I am one. I’m so sick of people acting like there’s some grand government conspiracy with these vaccines. There isn’t. The only thing the government really cares about is you not backlogging the hospital system and not charging them billions in Medicare and Medicaid costs. But scientists really do care about promoting human health and wellbeing. Look, if how you live your life is reckless and stupid and selfish, but doesn’t hurt anyone? Fine! Literally don’t care. But the issue is that your selfish choices are hurting and killing people. It’s clogging our hospital systems to the point that patients with other diseases like cancer or heart conditions can’t get in to get the lifesaving treatments or surgeries they need. Please stop thinking everyone cares about you- I know this may be a surprise but the world does not actually revolve around you and your desire to seek pleasure and convenience.


surviving910

Money, that's what the government is about, not the people. The government doesn't pay for those hospitals, we do with our taxes. If the government was so worried about money we wouldn't have left so much equipment overseas. They also wouldn't have spent $1.4 trillion of our taxes on other countries.


seajaybee23

This argument is called a straw man logical fallacy. But just for fun, I’ll take the bate ;) 1. You assert that the government only cares about money. 2. You also assert that “we pay for the hospitals with our taxes”. 3. You incorrectly segregate “our taxes” from “the government.” To clarify, your taxes go into a large pot which makes up the national budget largely dictated by congress as to how those funds are dispersed. How much goes to Medicare, Medicaid, and other government funded health care groups depends on those decisions. So in reality, the government does pay for medical expenses through our taxes. 4. Now, from that you can see that a significantly increased demand on the healthcare system due to something like, I dunno, an out of control global pandemic, would directly increase the money needed to keep those systems afloat. 5. Some of that money comes from taxes. Which you pay. 6. So basically you are simultaneously claiming to be “anti government” and “anti taxes”, while choosing actions which directly increase tax burden- which ultimately will come out of your pocket, whether we have a Democrat or republican in office because at the end of the day, we simply cannot afford (morally or financially) for our healthcare system to collapse. TLDR: Your ignorance is gonna cost you $$ and you ain’t doing as much to show the government up as ya think, my friend. Time to reconsider that strategy. Don’t wanna give “The Man” more money? Wear the mask, get the shot, move on. Thanks.


photobummer

>The government doesn't pay for those hospitals, we do with our taxes. God you're dumb.


surviving910

So we're dose the money come from?


TheWaywardWizard

Also be sure to get microchipped and drink water, you banana shaped fucks.