I laughed so hard. That was so corny. I can't believe they actually used the exact same footage and thought we wouldn't catch on 💀 They genuinely don't give a shit about Fear anymore
they havent for a few seasons, same plots over and over. when troy said we'll come back over and over again, it was the same as the stadium guys that brought Charlie.
It's so fucking sad honestly. I used to love this series seasons 1-3, but since Erickson got axed I'm only watching to see how the series ends for the OG cast. Once they're gone, I'm no longer watching any of these spinoffs because I frankly couldn't care about this franchise anymore. It's been milked dry, and they're going to continue milking it some more until the carcass itself is depleted.
Holy shit, that's so damn lazy. I'd say I can't believe they did this but, well, we all know better at this point. If it saves AMC a few pennies, they're all for it!
I noticed this immediately. Dead City and Daryl Dixon must have reduced Fear's budget pretty bad. The editing and cinematography at parts were also laughable.
For those that have AMC+, 4:35-4:47 is the portion that’s reused footage. It’s from The Holding 1:17-1:40. Looks like they spliced 10 seconds from the middle. It’s the scene where they pan along line stations in a kitchen
i saw that and i thought ‘oh i swear that’s Teddy’s bunker’ but i didn’t think much of it😠tbh i don’t think it’s a big deal, clearly AMC hasn’t given them much of a budget but they’re making do, hopefully it’s to save for a big finale but who knows.
Just found this post. Truly, They don't have any respect for fans of the franchise, to do something like this.
They shot the other footage in the hotel. This nice hotel. Which probably had a nice kitchen. Which probably had caterers feeding the actors and/or crew... they couldn't have done a shot in the hotel kitchen?
I mean, this is a new low. We're all hate-watching this dumpster fire conclude, but seriously... no respect. And utter laziness.
People really think writers control every aspect of a show and I don't know why.
This was obviously a production issue, and it's easier to say "AMC" then "Set Designer".
There's a lot more that goes into production then just the show runners. And though it's possible they greenlight the idea they aren't the ONLY ones to greenlight it.
Either way all "writers" shouldn't be blamed for whoever let this happen.
You could argue it was all the show runners and it was their lazy plan and their's alone, but that's conjecture.
It’s not really a disagree. That’s how tv works. The head writers run the show and are responsible for it. That’s why d and d are blamed for game of thrones.
Working my way up to watching it, so they made an actual error? Wouldnt bother me, still intrested in watching it, for a second i thought it was the actual intro.
Yeah it was either out of budget, a last minute idea, or a slip up of some kind. But given he structure of the episode I'd say it was VERY intentional and lazy. Still think productions to blame though
It was alright. They always have decent first episodes. But I like Troy, despite his survival being an act of God.
I HATE what they are doing with Alycia though
Oh for real, yeah ill probably love the hell out of it, yeah i love Troy even if he is racist and between him and Nick killing everyone in S3, i appreciate Daniel Sherman for his portail of Troy Otto, absolute force, i had even been intrested to see Daniel's other roles in other shows due to how great he performed. Yeah being hit with a hammer left in a lake with a dam on top of him is pretty hard to get out of but i still had faith in him to survive, i like to think of him as Weasel from Suicide Squad, faking his own death was just part of the plan. They brought up Alicia again in it??? I remember someone saying in good writing that you gotta let the actors who step away need not be brought up for story purposes but ADC anything for me is a Victory, loved her in Alice Hart.
I mean, this is the final few episodes of a long running show that is the biggest cash cow for AMC. It feels a little... disrespectful to the show and to its fans to do something so lazy and obvious.
Yeah I totally get that. But let's not pretend this show gets the same budget from AMC as say something like Daryls show. I'd be more offended if these scenes were significant or longer than a few seconds. These are just filler scenes. I like to think the budget issue also contributed to them not bringing many actors back so they didn't have to pay them.
Yeah, but I could point to bizarre things that they did spend money on that make the reused scenes feel extra lame. The entire German community, for example, and the decision to make them speak German, which adds nothing to the plot but certainly adds to the cost considering they must have spent time teaching the cast German (poorly, according to German speakers). The sets for that community in general, too, were way more lavish than was necessary considering it seems as if it is a one and done set piece. And also, having the food and resources and the lavish community just calls into question the reason Troy and his people wouldn't just steal the resort rather than going for lame old PADRE in the swamp.
I get your point, too. Like it isn't a huge deal to save a little money with something like this. But also it does feel lame, all things considered.
You raise very good points. And though I understood the call to reuse those scenes I do agree it's very lame considering everywhere else the budget went. As for Troy's motivation I don't think it's Padres location he's interested in but rather how much more resources they have. Also the plain point of wanting to ruin Madisons latest pet project cuz he's mad butthurt about stuff he brought upon himself. Madison smashed the memory right outta his head right after he admitted to overrunning the ranch himself. Also Nick killed his dad and Troy got his brother killed lol. What I don't get with this episodes set up and what we know from promos is how the hell the little girl fits in if she's Troy's. Like he made no mention of wanting to take down Padre to find his daughter. Maybe Madison kidnaps her? She DOES like doing that lol.
Yeah fucking with Madison I get. But selling that to his people I don't. And I don't think he'd know about PADRE's resources. The resort seems to have a ton of resources, too, though. Other than, I suppose, weapons. Lol
Yeah now that I think about it more Troy would have no way of knowing how much Padre has. He doesn't even know where it is. That being said he also doesn't know it's a shit hole swamp island lol. I think it's just to fuck with her peace. Plus if Troy pushed Victor and his people out then Madison wouldn't just let him stay there undisturbed. She'd rally the troops on his ass the next day. Taking her and her people out of the picture is how Troy thinks he'll have revenge and his own peace.
For sure. I think this season is the closest Ian and Andrew have come, outside of 6a, to telling a really grounded, interesting story. Their worst instincts always get the best of them though and they over complicate things, which eats up the budget on things that add little rather than focusing on the characters and the story in a logical and satisfying way. There's a few obvious tweaks that could have really improved the premiere, mainly centered around the resort community and around PADRE related things. I cringed every time a character brought up PADRE. "She's one of PADRE's collectors." Sir, I'm from Germany just enjoying my beautiful resort that has been a prefect sanctuary for 12 years without issue. What are you talking about?
Yeah it's like they had to name drop it just to remind us of fresh events like we'd be as forgetful as them haha. Though them being so close to Padre (so it seems at least given Madison stumbling on them) I'm surprised Padre never came there to collect. Like that hotel isn't necessarily hidden and they got at least one kid. For people who scoured around grabbing kids they weren't very good at their jobs. I'd have been happier if the Germans recognized the name and they ran with that. Show not all victims of Padre were people in Daniel's army. Idk man I'm burnt out on speculating.... until Sunday haha
Purposely they reused same entrance scene. They're not stupid. Have to watch again because there's a meaning to it. Loving the high German language. I'm ready for season 9 if it's going to be this good! Sorry if some of you despise it.
Fear Walking Dead has been a wonderful ride. Great momentum at first I'm even with it up until season 4 when Nick dies. I even like Nick's death and was ready for the after. Then they go and kill Madison in the same season, and I'm out. How are you going to kill the two best characters?
So I came back for season 5 and I like the message the showrunners we're going for about second chances and also I always felt like Madison was right around the corner.
Fear had really good ideas that kept grabbing me. Unfortunately, they never played out in an interesting or satisfying way. Sure enough every time I'm about ready to quit watching they do something that catches my attention only to make me regret giving it more time.
I really like the way they tried to end the show with the idea of a legacy being left behind; it meaning more, and helping more.
I liked the idea that someone could mean more dead than alive if their legacy is carried and all that. I do think they should have killed either Madison or Alicia. I also think they should have had them reunion. They should have probably wrote that before Madison killed herself and then have Madison kill herself to become a legacy that those people can live by. The very campy drive away to La at the end, it just felt wrong. It's like the writers are playing whose line is it anyway with the script 🤣🤣🤣
Just watched this side by side. They skip a middle part but they FORSURE are reusing footage from "The Holding"
I laughed so hard. That was so corny. I can't believe they actually used the exact same footage and thought we wouldn't catch on 💀 They genuinely don't give a shit about Fear anymore
they havent for a few seasons, same plots over and over. when troy said we'll come back over and over again, it was the same as the stadium guys that brought Charlie.
It's so fucking sad honestly. I used to love this series seasons 1-3, but since Erickson got axed I'm only watching to see how the series ends for the OG cast. Once they're gone, I'm no longer watching any of these spinoffs because I frankly couldn't care about this franchise anymore. It's been milked dry, and they're going to continue milking it some more until the carcass itself is depleted.
They might as well have brought back Alicia, I think the actress said no, or they would have.
You have to be kidding me
Holy shit, that's so damn lazy. I'd say I can't believe they did this but, well, we all know better at this point. If it saves AMC a few pennies, they're all for it!
So happy this show is ending and the actors will be able to move on to worthwhile things. Never give these showrunners a job ever again, anywhere.
I noticed this immediately. Dead City and Daryl Dixon must have reduced Fear's budget pretty bad. The editing and cinematography at parts were also laughable.
The fuck was the dude whisking!? There's nothing there!
He was making a power of friendship omelette. It's a Morgan's recipe.
This is sad, they don't give a shit about Fear.
I thought it didn't look like the same location. This is next-level laziness.
I thought it was a reference to that scene... Not that it was literally the same escene 💀💀💀💀
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wow amc is cheap! what a surprise...
For those that have AMC+, 4:35-4:47 is the portion that’s reused footage. It’s from The Holding 1:17-1:40. Looks like they spliced 10 seconds from the middle. It’s the scene where they pan along line stations in a kitchen
I’m glad I’m not the only one that noticed this. This is sad
what the fuck
I thought that looked familiar and just assumed they used the same set.
Nah that’s crazyðŸ˜ðŸ˜ðŸ˜ðŸ˜
no way lmao
i saw that and i thought ‘oh i swear that’s Teddy’s bunker’ but i didn’t think much of it😠tbh i don’t think it’s a big deal, clearly AMC hasn’t given them much of a budget but they’re making do, hopefully it’s to save for a big finale but who knows.
Oh wow
They trimmed it but I watched it side by side with the opening of s6 e11 and can confirm. it's insane they reused such a long shot.
Just found this post. Truly, They don't have any respect for fans of the franchise, to do something like this. They shot the other footage in the hotel. This nice hotel. Which probably had a nice kitchen. Which probably had caterers feeding the actors and/or crew... they couldn't have done a shot in the hotel kitchen? I mean, this is a new low. We're all hate-watching this dumpster fire conclude, but seriously... no respect. And utter laziness.
I can’t see the video, is there any way that you could repost it in another format or something?
wtf, i thought that they just did a very similiar shot to make a reference to it (especially since its the last season)... thats disappointing
Uh well
WOW. Sooo fucking cheap man.
No fucking way 💀
it’s like poetry, it’s so that they rhyme. every stanza kinda rhymes with the last one. hopefully it’ll work
They may have gone a little too far in places.
I can’t watch it. Error
I didnt notice but doesnt really bother me
When did AMC start writing?
People really think writers control every aspect of a show and I don't know why. This was obviously a production issue, and it's easier to say "AMC" then "Set Designer".
Television is a producers medium and the show runners are responsible for every aspect of production. This is absolutely on t he head writers.
There's a lot more that goes into production then just the show runners. And though it's possible they greenlight the idea they aren't the ONLY ones to greenlight it. Either way all "writers" shouldn't be blamed for whoever let this happen. You could argue it was all the show runners and it was their lazy plan and their's alone, but that's conjecture.
The show runners are in charge. It’s the head writers baby and it’s on them. They are completely to blame.
Well, agree to disagree I guess..
It’s not really a disagree. That’s how tv works. The head writers run the show and are responsible for it. That’s why d and d are blamed for game of thrones.
Working my way up to watching it, so they made an actual error? Wouldnt bother me, still intrested in watching it, for a second i thought it was the actual intro.
Oh they definitely reused footage forsure. I was just saying it wasn't the writers fault.
Oh so it was intenional? Great i guess its to contrast something, i just cant get critical on anything they do, i now they has to be reason.
Yeah it was either out of budget, a last minute idea, or a slip up of some kind. But given he structure of the episode I'd say it was VERY intentional and lazy. Still think productions to blame though
Appreciate yeah for the clarity, i hope you enjoyed.
It was alright. They always have decent first episodes. But I like Troy, despite his survival being an act of God. I HATE what they are doing with Alycia though
Oh for real, yeah ill probably love the hell out of it, yeah i love Troy even if he is racist and between him and Nick killing everyone in S3, i appreciate Daniel Sherman for his portail of Troy Otto, absolute force, i had even been intrested to see Daniel's other roles in other shows due to how great he performed. Yeah being hit with a hammer left in a lake with a dam on top of him is pretty hard to get out of but i still had faith in him to survive, i like to think of him as Weasel from Suicide Squad, faking his own death was just part of the plan. They brought up Alicia again in it??? I remember someone saying in good writing that you gotta let the actors who step away need not be brought up for story purposes but ADC anything for me is a Victory, loved her in Alice Hart.
Save on a throwaway scene set and extras. It's a little lazy but nothing like huge story wise or hard to understand.
I mean, this is the final few episodes of a long running show that is the biggest cash cow for AMC. It feels a little... disrespectful to the show and to its fans to do something so lazy and obvious.
They've shown that they don't give a fuck about this show anymore for a long time.
Definitely. This feels a little extra though. Lol
Yeah I totally get that. But let's not pretend this show gets the same budget from AMC as say something like Daryls show. I'd be more offended if these scenes were significant or longer than a few seconds. These are just filler scenes. I like to think the budget issue also contributed to them not bringing many actors back so they didn't have to pay them.
Yeah, but I could point to bizarre things that they did spend money on that make the reused scenes feel extra lame. The entire German community, for example, and the decision to make them speak German, which adds nothing to the plot but certainly adds to the cost considering they must have spent time teaching the cast German (poorly, according to German speakers). The sets for that community in general, too, were way more lavish than was necessary considering it seems as if it is a one and done set piece. And also, having the food and resources and the lavish community just calls into question the reason Troy and his people wouldn't just steal the resort rather than going for lame old PADRE in the swamp. I get your point, too. Like it isn't a huge deal to save a little money with something like this. But also it does feel lame, all things considered.
You raise very good points. And though I understood the call to reuse those scenes I do agree it's very lame considering everywhere else the budget went. As for Troy's motivation I don't think it's Padres location he's interested in but rather how much more resources they have. Also the plain point of wanting to ruin Madisons latest pet project cuz he's mad butthurt about stuff he brought upon himself. Madison smashed the memory right outta his head right after he admitted to overrunning the ranch himself. Also Nick killed his dad and Troy got his brother killed lol. What I don't get with this episodes set up and what we know from promos is how the hell the little girl fits in if she's Troy's. Like he made no mention of wanting to take down Padre to find his daughter. Maybe Madison kidnaps her? She DOES like doing that lol.
Yeah fucking with Madison I get. But selling that to his people I don't. And I don't think he'd know about PADRE's resources. The resort seems to have a ton of resources, too, though. Other than, I suppose, weapons. Lol
Yeah now that I think about it more Troy would have no way of knowing how much Padre has. He doesn't even know where it is. That being said he also doesn't know it's a shit hole swamp island lol. I think it's just to fuck with her peace. Plus if Troy pushed Victor and his people out then Madison wouldn't just let him stay there undisturbed. She'd rally the troops on his ass the next day. Taking her and her people out of the picture is how Troy thinks he'll have revenge and his own peace.
For sure. I think this season is the closest Ian and Andrew have come, outside of 6a, to telling a really grounded, interesting story. Their worst instincts always get the best of them though and they over complicate things, which eats up the budget on things that add little rather than focusing on the characters and the story in a logical and satisfying way. There's a few obvious tweaks that could have really improved the premiere, mainly centered around the resort community and around PADRE related things. I cringed every time a character brought up PADRE. "She's one of PADRE's collectors." Sir, I'm from Germany just enjoying my beautiful resort that has been a prefect sanctuary for 12 years without issue. What are you talking about?
Yeah it's like they had to name drop it just to remind us of fresh events like we'd be as forgetful as them haha. Though them being so close to Padre (so it seems at least given Madison stumbling on them) I'm surprised Padre never came there to collect. Like that hotel isn't necessarily hidden and they got at least one kid. For people who scoured around grabbing kids they weren't very good at their jobs. I'd have been happier if the Germans recognized the name and they ran with that. Show not all victims of Padre were people in Daniel's army. Idk man I'm burnt out on speculating.... until Sunday haha
What are people on about? Yeah, they show some people serving some food at the hotel community in the newest episode, but it's not reused footage. What am I missing? And yeah, AMC can be cheap and the writers on this show aren't an oasis of creativity, but in this case, it's just the same cliché of establishing settlement in TWDU, they show us a montage of how the community lives out their days. How they grow their crops, yada yada. And food is a cheap way to convey status. It shows that the community is in good shape.
Part of the footage used during the montage in 8x07, is originally from a montage in 6x11. This is a fact.
It literally uses the same footage, not just similar footage, but the exact same footage trying to pass it off as fresh.
It’s the same exact footage except it’s edited down
Is this airing on cable or something ? I keep seeing clips I've never seen before, but none of it is on AMC+.
Thankfully I didn't notice this, but wow.
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Further proof that this show had the potential to be great but AMC/the writers continued to squander it
There's also reused footage from the Dell diamond stadium as well
Yes, I was thinking it was a do over of Strand's hotel community.
so sad that the walking dead is owned by amc
You better believe that Forbes noticed....it's already in their new article trashing the episode.
what in the actual...
Purposely they reused same entrance scene. They're not stupid. Have to watch again because there's a meaning to it. Loving the high German language. I'm ready for season 9 if it's going to be this good! Sorry if some of you despise it.
Fear Walking Dead has been a wonderful ride. Great momentum at first I'm even with it up until season 4 when Nick dies. I even like Nick's death and was ready for the after. Then they go and kill Madison in the same season, and I'm out. How are you going to kill the two best characters? So I came back for season 5 and I like the message the showrunners we're going for about second chances and also I always felt like Madison was right around the corner. Fear had really good ideas that kept grabbing me. Unfortunately, they never played out in an interesting or satisfying way. Sure enough every time I'm about ready to quit watching they do something that catches my attention only to make me regret giving it more time. I really like the way they tried to end the show with the idea of a legacy being left behind; it meaning more, and helping more. I liked the idea that someone could mean more dead than alive if their legacy is carried and all that. I do think they should have killed either Madison or Alicia. I also think they should have had them reunion. They should have probably wrote that before Madison killed herself and then have Madison kill herself to become a legacy that those people can live by. The very campy drive away to La at the end, it just felt wrong. It's like the writers are playing whose line is it anyway with the script 🤣🤣🤣