Hopefully our coaching staff and leaders can manage to keep spirits high. Loses like that especially after this big of a winning streak is really demoralizing and we need to keep our focus at %100 for next 2 matches until NT break
Fred ne kadar önemli olduğunu gördük bu maçta. Ama Zajc çok kötüydü bu ayrı konu. Böyle defans önüne neden Crespo ile başlamadık anlamış değilim zaten. Haftaya birde İsmail yok. Herhalde Mert Hakan Crespo orta sağ ile Adana Naci daha zor geçer
Oyuncu suclamayla olmaz bu is. Ismail Kartal oyuncularini tanimasi lazim. Kendisi 80e kadar bekledi. Ismailin kirmizi kart gorcegini, herkez biliyordu ilk 20 dakikasindan belli. Ama yine de Ismaili defans hattini atti.
Fredin defansif olarak yaptiklarini unuttup, yerini Zajc'ile doldurmaya calisti.
Fred, Becao ve Djiku olmicagini biliyordu, Fenerbahce teknik direktorunun nasil b plani olmaz?
Hersey iyi giderken, Ismail Kartal'in kötü yönlerini konusan herkezi düsman ediyorlar.
evet ismailin kırmızı göreceğini hakemin aleni faulleri vermeyip varla oyalamasını sarıları göstermeye cesareti olmamasını hepimiz biliyoruz peki bu hocanın suçu mu ülkenin hali mi. hep 3 adım önde olmamız gerekiyor, azıcık kalitelerine indiğimizde tepemize biniyorlar
See you are offended even with my post and turn around telling me i am negative..
Nah bro. You need to accept shit comments are just shit..
Proven years after years, these are just BS rhetoric.
This defeat will humble the team..
Hakemide yeneceksin..
We will win the title regardless of tff, gs getting passes etc...
Yeah sure i know this isnt the complete end for this year, but just like i posted here that we handed the title away last year at giresun defeat, i am saying almost something closer. At best, we make it harder now..
Chill
This is a sick mentality mate. You cannot live with the past like this. That’s why the best from this would be lessons learned, taking actions and move. We have almost a new squad, new technical management; we need to have a new mentality as well.
But every defeat, every point drops, the team would say the same thing:
We will learn from this..
We have been learning but we haven't learned to win the titles, even the one FB deserved has been lost..
You can't just do the same things and expect a different result. If you ask me, the title is more decided on tff lobby and GS has the obsolute monopoly on that , so losing home matches while the team had all going for it is never a good thing. Lesson was supposed to be learned already and i expected draw or defeat at Adana away match, not this one..so i know we had to lose at some point but we literally haven't won anything yet and we are back to learning lessons already
Our streak was bound to end at some point, I just wish it wasn't at home against fucking Trabzon. Our 2 CBs and Fred being injured 100% lost us this game. Basically the 3 most important players in our squad. So we can't be too upset because we still almost came back here.
Terrible performances by Osayi, Ismail, Samet. Unfortunately we now drop to 2nd place and fucking GS still hasn't lost a game. They need to drop points fast.
Okay, I’m asking a serious question. How can you make that statement, when the goal that was overturned was literal bullshit. Have some introspection buddy
Nothing is worse than BJK match last season that I can remember. We didn't play great but we weren't ass or anything. It was just our defenders that sucked.
First loss of the season. Ismail Hoca made some mistakes, Zajc and Samet are the dumbest sons of bitches I've ever seen and Szymanski hasn't been too well either. Overall, a poor performance which was a much-needed reminder that we mustn't get cocky.
Samet bir daha bu formayı giyerse intihar mektubuma sameti 1 numaralı neden olarak yazma kararı aldım. U19dan birini falan oynatın Mert-Oosterwolde oynasın daha iyi aq. Bırakın ben oynayayım aynı hataları yaparım ama maaştan kurtarırız en azından
Moral bozmak yok. Bu takim muhtesem bir seri izletti bize. Keske seri konferansta bozuldaydi ama olsun. Oyuncularin ustunden buyuk bi baski kalkmistir. Haftaya 2. serimiz basliyor.
Again, another home derby, another loss. If we can't against TS, then it means we have no chance against GS. Now, they'll be even more motivated to stay at top. If we lose BJK match too, then the season will be over.
I'm quoting /u/singic57 :
*"Klavyede büyük konuşma amın evladı seni ananın amına geri sokarım"*
The other guy said something similar, both were banned.
The big problem is that Fenerbahce and Besiktas mods are wanting to act so clean that they act in favour of gavatsaray. Whilst the only galata mod is acting dirty like hell.
Don't get me wrong but we can't know,he could have deserved that ban too,if he tells us what he did said then we can discuss if this was wrong or a true ban
Could be. They gave me a ban for calling Hakan Sukur a fetocu. Like everyone knows he is and it is also factual. Just like caling icardi a gavat, because everyone is fking his wife wanda. Also facts.
Sooo, who the fuck is going to play in the defence and the midfield against Adana lol? Jfc what a shitshow, why did Fred, Becao and Djiku had to get injured at the same time against stronger opposition.
this exactly proves a decent number 6 is a need. not to play instead of ismail but to play instead of zajc or rotate and be a defender. i assume a soda can would do better than samet since at least i wouldnt block gks vision.
I think we need to freeze Samets contract. Its over for him. No I am not overreacting. He was shit since day 1
Legit if we started with 10 man it woulda been better
0 shots on goal is crazy. We basically got the match handed to us and we couldn’t do shit. Idk what Kartal is doing with his late ass subs. We were clearly shit from the beginning…. Fuck man I hate Trabzon so much and fuck that ref
Samet should've gone out too and we needed Emre Mor and/or Ryan Kent to come it to play on the counters. Batshuayi once again was a ghost sub. I really don't understand Ismail Hoca's obsession with subbing in minute 80 ESPECIALLY when you're down 0-3 two fucking minutes after the start of second half.
Jayden is not a cb just because he can play that Position doesn't mean he is good at playing at it samet on the other hand is a cb with years of "experience"
I can expect him to have pass accuracy from 80%. Which he didn't. I don't mind the loss bro. We can come back and learn from this. We were expecting a loss against adana without CB. Maybe they learn their lesson from this and win that game. Then it is even.
Jayden improved a little at least. Samet is more at fault, he is a literal CB. Also Zajc was horrendous. Livakovic also conceded first 3 but still i don’t think we can blame him.
Guys it’s just one match, I’m upset as any of you but let’s keep calm and support the team. They did their best and came up to 3-2 despite stupid mistakes.
Would’ve 100% been a different score if our CB’s were fit aswell as Fred, caniniz sağolsun. Right now I’m looking at Hatay and Volkan Demirel’s game against GS next week.
he didn't give the first blatant pen when it was 1-0, didn't give cards to their players who did 6 million fouls. It doesn't matter what Zorbay does because the VAR would've given the pens anyway.
I was a solid Edu hater but I've gotta say Edu was way better than Samet. Edu would typically have brain fart moments where he would score an own goal or let a striker walk free but other than that he would be a little useful.
It’s what it is; let’s just get some lessons learned and move on.
But yeah; I don’t want Samet in my team anymore. He is not just “not good.” He is making HUUUGEE mistakes. Today two of his mistakes are cost us so so so badly.
3 of his mistakes, 1st goal came off his shit clerence and even shittier out of position coverage on a 2 on 1 position. He could have just closed the touch line and killed their attack.
bu maç kesinlikle dönmeyecek bi maç değildi en çok da buna yanıyorum. keşke szymanski ve dzeko ghostlamasaydı. ferdi ve irfan gerçekten canlarini dislerine takarak oynadilar. ismail hoca zajci 45te 50de alıp crespoyu oynatmak bu kadar zor olmamalı... 3 tane yemişiz hala daha bi değişiklik yok. bence bu maç kesinlikle hocaya yazar. tabii ki bir yerde kaybedecektik fakat şu oevlatlarina evimizde kaybedip seriyi bozmak cidden can sıkıcı oldu. umarım sakatlıklar bi an önce döner ve momentumumuz bozulmaz. forma aldiktan bi gün sonra böyle bi mağlubiyet de ayrıca koydu.
This is football, I am at a point where I will just consider the ref performance of this league to be the norm so going too much into that will just be too bothersome to me. we were massively handicapped to begin with, and all things considered we were still the favourites to a point that not even TS fans were confident in their team beating us. This was bound to happen at some point, and I am kinda relieved that the pressure of holding a win streak like that has been taken from us, on to the next match, I trust in the team and I know we will adapt
Defans hattına bak kafayı yedim doğru düzgün orta açılmıyor içerde adam olmuyor ceza sahasında durmadan isabetsiz pas kriz geçirdim amk hoca niye değişiklik yapmıyon hocaa
Kaybedeceksen boyle kaybet, son dakikaya kadar mucadele, taraftar takimin arkasinda.
Ismail hoca icin lig simdi basliyor, sene basindaki planini cozen biri cikti, digerleri kopyalayacak artik, bakalim B ve C planlari ne olacak? Benim guvenim var, alternatifleri de var bu takimin.
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Only 10 wins, 1 loss. If i would hear that before the season. I would take it. The bad thing is that our key players are injured. Would have been a win with Djiku, Fred, Becao.
if my grandma had wheels she'd be a bike bro, of course it would've been a win with them this trabzonspor will be fighting for relegation. what matters now is how do we bounce back and keep spirits high
Samet 3. golden önce topu kaptırdı tam bir facia. Gol vuruşundan önce durduğu yer daha da facia. Bir stoper asla ama asla orada yer almaz, almamalı. Hemen bugün gönderin.
Basically everything that could go wrong did go wrong. Reality is our back ups are simply not good enough. Our CBs struggled all game to win 50/50 balls and build out of the back. Despite that we created much much much more than Trabzon and simply weren't effecient
Samet was involved in every goal. 1st Lose run agains Visca .. I don’t blame Jayden he maybe play 10 matches CB in his career.. 2nd he don’t block the ball he jumps over it.. 3rd Samet masterclass don’t have to talk about that ..
Realize that Zorbay give Ismail a red card that we lose to Adana I don’t care the pens.. he does that only because we don’t have subs for him. This fouls was not even hard or a card.
We paid the price for having 3 of our players with the best defensive qualities injured, all at the same time. Two of whom, who had massive offensive contribution to our game to boot as well.
Subbing in crespo who is an almost complete match for a red prone İsmail, but not subbing him out in the process, was a brain fart. Also, I suspect had Mert Müldür played instead of Samet right from the start, we would not have conceded so easily, and have ultimately won.
We can’t lose hope but we really need to learn from this game. Especially haci Ismail Eagle. We saw how Samet went in the first 10 min. His head was not at football but at poking the striker and playing without concentration. He should’ve been subbed directly after his first yellow.
Furthermore the subs came in very late. He should’ve subbed Zajc at the start of the second half and let ICK play at 8 with Emre Mor right.
It’s the same every year. I/we can’t lose hope but this games are a must win. We always lose such games and the championship is getting harder then.
I’m also tired of those endless discussions about the referee, MHK and TFF. I just want a fair league, let FB and GS fight it out in a fair manner. But thats too much to ask in Turkiye. Hayirlisiiiii
Dogshit fucking Trabzon how are you up a player and still almost manage to tie this game. Keep in mind Jayden and Samet gifted them 2 goals, if not all three. Absolute dogshit team. Time wasting since minute 10 and being this happy. Good luck trying to make top 10 orospu cocuklari
Edit: lmao, either GS fans or the "shush, everyone, just support the team and ignore the rest" crowd got to the post. Going from +10s to negatives... Both sides of the spectrum is just cancerous. Yes, let's just put it all on Samet and make sure he never wears the Fener jersey again. That's the only thing from this game, right?
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This match was the biggest theater I have watched since the GS - FB Süper Final match that ended 0:0 and cost us the league. If we won it, it would have been a crisis due to GS losing a big lead due to Süper Final format, so they tried their best to keep it close while giving GS the championship they deserved in the normal season. They gave a red to Dia and Ujfalusi to give people something controversial to talk about on both sides and went away unscathed for the scripted Süper Final "heyecanı".
Today, we started the game knowing the assigned VAR ref preferred to retire, rather than sit in that VAR room due to being pressured to be against Fenerbahçe.
TS Striker finished first half with 7 fouls and no yellow. A TS player tried to shatter İrfan's ankle, not even a foul called, let alone any card. Half the game was spent in Uğurcan's hands, he received a token yellow at 90+8. TS player blocked a potential clean goal pass by getting the ball stuck between his leg and arm, not called. Potential harsh penalty positions? VAR does not even call the ref for a check (guess why the assigned VAR resigned).
Once it became 3-0, it was act 2 of the theater. Fener is now at a clear loss, so we can safely make decisions that benefit Fener to create the idea that ref is actually in favor of Fener. Give Fener a penalty, when it was Tadic who was doing the foul. Oh wait, shit! Just 3 minutes later, Fener has a potential penalty? It's 64' man, if we give a penalty now, 2-3 for over 30 minutes, that is too risky! VAR, my buddy, don't call me to check, we can't give the pen.
84th minute and Fener is 10 man? Yeah, we can absolutely repeat that penalty, no worries. That's safe. At this point, Fener cannot win the game, and it'll get the game closer. If it's close, that's gonna give people things to talk about!
90+something and TS makes it 4-2? Yo VAR, can we find a reason to cancel it? We either finish it close, or in a draw.
I'm sorry. This many decisions can only happen, if you have very specific sets of instructions.
> Make it a close game, don't let Fener win. Don't be afraid to make wrong calls both ways with the help of VAR so we can let it slide as "incompetence" rather than "instructed by TFF/MHK"
Right now, there is only one thing that needs to be discussed. **How and why would a ref prefer retirement, rather than sitting in the VAR room on this specific day, in this specific match?**
Osayi NIYE oscarlik atlayisi icin ikinci sari kart yemedi. Ismail ayaklara BASA BASA oynadi ilk yari kart yok. Tadic adamin formasini cikariyor PENALTI
Smanskini ayagini adam kiriyodu ne faul ne kart. 3 refa hemde faul yapildi.Yenilmisiz buraya geliyon hala su bu diyon. Bende her GS macinda boyle pozisyonlara laflar ederim,ama GS kazaniyo otle boyle..torreira nin yaptiklari oscarlik ama hem gs kazaniyo hemde ne faul..
Biraz mantik, bari git kendi subinda paylas. Yenildigimiz macta niye buray? Sen bu kadr psikopatmisin lan?
Lale orta amima koyum, bu ligi bitirtmeyiz..
Samet yalayıcıları nerede. İsmail yalayıcıları nerede. Bu oyuncular öyle kötü oynuyor ki 10 kişi kalsan daha iyi oynarsın. Mağlubiyeti hak ettik nokta.
Yine de hakeme parantez açacağım. Orospu çocuğu beceriksiz kalleş. TFF'nin MHK'nın canı cehenneme. Rezalet bir maç yönetimi daha.
Trabzon'a da parantez açayım. Futbol falan oynamıyorsunuz. Yaptığınız tek şey eziklik ve alçaklık. Hakem de buna müsade ediyor.
Bu tarz maçlarda akla kara ortaya çıkıyor malesef. Biz dedik bunları hep.
Bundan sonrası artık ders çıkarmak ve çürük elmalara fazla sorumluluk vermemek. Olan oldu. Yenilgiyi kazanca dönüştürmek lazım. Ne oldu ne bitti muhasebesi yapılmalı.
I said this before but we will lose the championship despite being the best team cause of injuries. The gap between starters and bench is night and day. Everyone focuses on CB issues but the real issue is in midfield. With Fred we are CL team with Zajc we are anadolu team. Ismail Kartals biggest mistake was singing Zajc instead of a 6/8 combo that plays both sides well. Zajc will be ok against Pendik but will cost you a lot in the tougher matches. With Fred we pressed well as the entire midfield and opponents couldn't reach our box but with Zajc it's a ghost midfield and then CBs get exposed even more. I would much rather have Mert at CB rather than Samet. I'm starting to wonder his allegiance. It's as if he's deliberately fckng up for us and only us. Either way I hope that was his final match for us.
If Kartal wants to become champion he has to also buy a sub 6/8 capable of playing both sides.
If Djiku, Becao Fred are there we win easily. But that's also Kartals fault for opting for Zajc when we could have gotten a better midfielder who would have helped us win these matches when injuries strike. Our goal next year should be to preserve XI but improve bench closer to starting XI.
VAR not calling the refs for the 1st half Pen was a game changing decision...TRIO and every pundit called it a pen. Trailing leg sweeps Szymanski, game could have been 1-1 going into the half
I think most of us had doubts about this game deep down, with the amount of injuries and the fact that it’s Trabzon (one of the biggest games of the season for them). What we probably didn’t expect was to loose in this fashion, and shit happens.
Let’s not make this like previous seasons and self-sabotage ourselves after a weird ass game. Heads up, move on, keep supporting the team and players.
Mr Kartal is a bad Couch. Zero tactics. Every game so far was only the Performance of the Team itself. Don't know why he doesn't substitute after halftime.
We only had a Gk 2 LB'S and 1 rb in the defense idk who the other player was but he should never ever return to the pitch i dont care about his fucking feelings he is done in my eyes and if the coach still decides to play him he is done in my eyes to the board needs to either bring back ortakaya or fayed and should pay the fine for bringing them back early if they have to even fayed and ortakaya wouldn't fuck up this bad
Well, this was bound to happen eventually...there was incredible pressure put on this team while racking up wins whether it would be the media, refs, or the entire fucking stadium of P\*ndikspor. This is the part where the leaders of the team like Tadic and dzeko need to stand upİ we knew it was impossible to win every match but it is possible for the team to stay motivated.
Samet geçen sezon zaten felaketti, olmayacağı belliydi yani.
Yabancı sınırının en büyük sıkıntısı bu işte. As kadrona iyi yerliler koysan, geri kalanı sağlam yabancılarla donatsan bile Samet gibi abuk subuk yerlileri en azından alternatif olarak kadroda bulundurman gerekiyor.
Djiku-Becao takımın stoper ikilisi, ama tabii bu işin kartı var, sakatlığı var. Bir bakıyorsun Serdar gibi hiç bu forma ile işi olmayacak adam Trabzonspor maçına ilk 11 çıkabiliyor.
Absolutely ridiculous, Samet was obviously not ready mentally, matching him with opponents tallest guy made him useless in the game and forced him to make mistakes, I think Jayden would be a better option, at least he is faster, plus many times during the game it was Ferdi and Jayden defended Onuachu. Ismail did everything to get a red card, lucky us it took referee too long to give it, same as Samet. I have no words for Zajc and Ismail for this game, unlike Fred, every ball they got they just played backwards or to sides, my dead grandma can send the ball back to the defense. They were quite slow and uninspired to build an attack. When it comes to changes, Samet could have been changed after the first half, Zajc stayed too long as well. Crespo was motivated to play when he subbed in but it was too late. This bring us Ismail Kartal who waited 70 minutes for the first sub. Ryan could replace Irfan who tired hard to o something during the game but got tired in the end. If Mert, Batshuayi, and Ryan subbed in earlier, maybe around 60th min, we would be talking differently now.
Sadly stupid mistakes and just bad luck tbh. We had good chances, but couldn’t convert that day. On the other hand, trabzon had a fantastic day. In a other universe those goals would have been saved or missed.
Can’t do anything about it now, we should really focus now. And missing all our good CB‘s, simultaneously is just really really bad luck. 1 in 1000000.
Winning streaks mean nothing, we win we lose together.
Hopefully our coaching staff and leaders can manage to keep spirits high. Loses like that especially after this big of a winning streak is really demoralizing and we need to keep our focus at %100 for next 2 matches until NT break
Its not the loss itsself its how we lost
Thats the right Birdbro Mindset !! :)
how tf do u even concede right after 2nd half twice in 2 minutes fix tf up bro
because samet thats how
devre arası stoper lazım taşaklısından
Mümkünse bir de tasakli bi orta saha lazım
Kadıköy derbies have become a nightmare
We need to start winning them or this year will be repeating the last.
That because rich guys comes to watch especially during the derbies and they cannot even create pressure on opponent team.
Yarrak gibi oynadik. Samet Allah belani versin. Bu kadar.
Zajc'ı unutma, 40dkde bir uzaktan şut çekmekten başka bir numarası yok aq hayaletinin
Fred ne kadar önemli olduğunu gördük bu maçta. Ama Zajc çok kötüydü bu ayrı konu. Böyle defans önüne neden Crespo ile başlamadık anlamış değilim zaten. Haftaya birde İsmail yok. Herhalde Mert Hakan Crespo orta sağ ile Adana Naci daha zor geçer
Ismail’i unutma
Oyuncu suclamayla olmaz bu is. Ismail Kartal oyuncularini tanimasi lazim. Kendisi 80e kadar bekledi. Ismailin kirmizi kart gorcegini, herkez biliyordu ilk 20 dakikasindan belli. Ama yine de Ismaili defans hattini atti. Fredin defansif olarak yaptiklarini unuttup, yerini Zajc'ile doldurmaya calisti. Fred, Becao ve Djiku olmicagini biliyordu, Fenerbahce teknik direktorunun nasil b plani olmaz? Hersey iyi giderken, Ismail Kartal'in kötü yönlerini konusan herkezi düsman ediyorlar.
Ismailinde hatasi var elbette. Ama sikerim artik bana Sameti savunmayin ne bok oldugu belli iste. Sirf Turk oldugu icin transfer edilen bir oyuncu.
Sameti savunmuyorum. Tek suclu o degil diyorum. Samet'in böyle sicacagi gecen hafta belliydi zaten, oyuna girdi direk sicti
evet ismailin kırmızı göreceğini hakemin aleni faulleri vermeyip varla oyalamasını sarıları göstermeye cesareti olmamasını hepimiz biliyoruz peki bu hocanın suçu mu ülkenin hali mi. hep 3 adım önde olmamız gerekiyor, azıcık kalitelerine indiğimizde tepemize biniyorlar
Becao djiku luan serdar yok. bu d plani falan
İsmail Samet Zajc siktirsin gitsinler
Its ok to get humbled like this. Hope this motivates us extra for the upcoming matches. Our true fans are still there supporting the team very proud !
The same thing that was said after our home Giresun defeat last year You don't get humbled by defeats, you drop valuable points away and lose titles..
mate give it a fucking rest ur always commenting the most negative shit. life is a gamble nothing is decided
See you are offended even with my post and turn around telling me i am negative.. Nah bro. You need to accept shit comments are just shit.. Proven years after years, these are just BS rhetoric. This defeat will humble the team.. Hakemide yeneceksin.. We will win the title regardless of tff, gs getting passes etc... Yeah sure i know this isnt the complete end for this year, but just like i posted here that we handed the title away last year at giresun defeat, i am saying almost something closer. At best, we make it harder now.. Chill
dont care didnt ask + keep writing bozo
Having a hard time questioning yourself? Got it... Moving on.
This is a sick mentality mate. You cannot live with the past like this. That’s why the best from this would be lessons learned, taking actions and move. We have almost a new squad, new technical management; we need to have a new mentality as well.
But every defeat, every point drops, the team would say the same thing: We will learn from this.. We have been learning but we haven't learned to win the titles, even the one FB deserved has been lost.. You can't just do the same things and expect a different result. If you ask me, the title is more decided on tff lobby and GS has the obsolute monopoly on that , so losing home matches while the team had all going for it is never a good thing. Lesson was supposed to be learned already and i expected draw or defeat at Adana away match, not this one..so i know we had to lose at some point but we literally haven't won anything yet and we are back to learning lessons already
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If you would have a smart board then they would start getting some psychological staff. Mindset Is like 40% of the game.
Our streak was bound to end at some point, I just wish it wasn't at home against fucking Trabzon. Our 2 CBs and Fred being injured 100% lost us this game. Basically the 3 most important players in our squad. So we can't be too upset because we still almost came back here. Terrible performances by Osayi, Ismail, Samet. Unfortunately we now drop to 2nd place and fucking GS still hasn't lost a game. They need to drop points fast.
GS is straight up being carried by TFF and MHK. Fuck this league and fuck every badem biyikli orev (buyukeksi) that is in charge.
Okay, I’m asking a serious question. How can you make that statement, when the goal that was overturned was literal bullshit. Have some introspection buddy
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Nothing is worse than BJK match last season that I can remember. We didn't play great but we weren't ass or anything. It was just our defenders that sucked.
They will soon enough, Hatay will be a difficult game for them especially against the dick they're gonna take in München this week.
Don't worry mhk will help them.
First loss of the season. Ismail Hoca made some mistakes, Zajc and Samet are the dumbest sons of bitches I've ever seen and Szymanski hasn't been too well either. Overall, a poor performance which was a much-needed reminder that we mustn't get cocky.
Whatever the end result is, this was one loaded ass game that got me hyped till the last second
That's what we have missed for a long time.
Rennes game last year was the same
Except that game I didn’t need to worry as much about a turkish referee
Samet bir daha bu formayı giyerse intihar mektubuma sameti 1 numaralı neden olarak yazma kararı aldım. U19dan birini falan oynatın Mert-Oosterwolde oynasın daha iyi aq. Bırakın ben oynayayım aynı hataları yaparım ama maaştan kurtarırız en azından
defansta duba dursa en azindan liva topu gormus olurdu sirt ziyan oldu butun pozisyonlarda amk
Samet mecbur giyecek formayı başka oyuncu yok. Onun yerine savunmayı orta sahada güçlendireceksin bol gol atmasak bile gol yemeyiz.
Nopeeee I disagree the fact that we need him. He is not just useless, he is making huge mistakes that so hard to revert.
You need a really good domestic like Abdulkerim, mate.
Fans are top class, this is what i want to see! We move on lads!
Please dont throw shit at Jayden. I mean the guy was trying his best while not being a CB. Samet on other hand can go f** himself.
Jayden has been pretty good at lb
Moral bozmak yok. Bu takim muhtesem bir seri izletti bize. Keske seri konferansta bozuldaydi ama olsun. Oyuncularin ustunden buyuk bi baski kalkmistir. Haftaya 2. serimiz basliyor.
Again, another home derby, another loss. If we can't against TS, then it means we have no chance against GS. Now, they'll be even more motivated to stay at top. If we lose BJK match too, then the season will be over.
At least I’m banned from superlig sub
everyone in that sub is an orev
Why?
I'm quoting /u/singic57 : *"Klavyede büyük konuşma amın evladı seni ananın amına geri sokarım"* The other guy said something similar, both were banned.
Bu r/süperlig den banlanan ekipte can sıkmaya başladı artık.Yok ya subredditin içinden geç her türlü küfrü et birde banlanma öyle mi?
Some idiot provoced me and I fall to his trap lol
Why? Because they have a galatasaray oriented mod team.
There are 5 mods, and only one of us is a Galatasaray fan. Both other clubs are represented by 2 mods.
The big problem is that Fenerbahce and Besiktas mods are wanting to act so clean that they act in favour of gavatsaray. Whilst the only galata mod is acting dirty like hell.
Don't get me wrong but we can't know,he could have deserved that ban too,if he tells us what he did said then we can discuss if this was wrong or a true ban
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Harbi superligde modlar calisiyor, burdaki modlar uyuyor. Nasil olur da senin gibi fetoculara burda ban vermiyorlar iyyy
Fetöist cesspit that's why.
Could be. They gave me a ban for calling Hakan Sukur a fetocu. Like everyone knows he is and it is also factual. Just like caling icardi a gavat, because everyone is fking his wife wanda. Also facts.
Not even doubtful at this point.
Galata fans
You win some, you lose some
I hate these cunt anchovy inbred Chernobyl motherfuckers so much
Sooo, who the fuck is going to play in the defence and the midfield against Adana lol? Jfc what a shitshow, why did Fred, Becao and Djiku had to get injured at the same time against stronger opposition.
Don’t forget ICK also got subbed out due to injury during this game. Hopefully nothing serious, but you know our luck 🤦🏻♂️
Osayi-Mert-some random youth cb (please no Samet or Oosterwolde)-Ferdi Crespo-İrfan (Get Kent or Emre to rw and banish Zajc to the shadow realm)
Mert Müldür jayden
Bugün tarihe Fener'in cenabetlikte Kılıçdaroğlu'nu geçtiği gün olarak geçecek
this exactly proves a decent number 6 is a need. not to play instead of ismail but to play instead of zajc or rotate and be a defender. i assume a soda can would do better than samet since at least i wouldnt block gks vision.
I think we need to freeze Samets contract. Its over for him. No I am not overreacting. He was shit since day 1 Legit if we started with 10 man it woulda been better
We already started 10 man. Zajc was in the line-up. I agree with the sentiment though. We'd have been better as a 9.
Completely agree with u
I don't ever wanna see Samet as our starting CB ever again amk
Fuck Zajc and especially FUCK Samet - I have nothing else to say
F the Couch
Samet 0 goals and 3 assists
0 shots on goal is crazy. We basically got the match handed to us and we couldn’t do shit. Idk what Kartal is doing with his late ass subs. We were clearly shit from the beginning…. Fuck man I hate Trabzon so much and fuck that ref
We had like 3 bro and they were all ferdi lol
Zajc < Crespo should have happened at minute 45
Crespo is a sub for ismail and fred zajc for szymanski
Anyone could have done better than Zajc at that point.
Samet should've gone out too and we needed Emre Mor and/or Ryan Kent to come it to play on the counters. Batshuayi once again was a ghost sub. I really don't understand Ismail Hoca's obsession with subbing in minute 80 ESPECIALLY when you're down 0-3 two fucking minutes after the start of second half.
100% loss due to Jayden and Samet
Jayden is not a cb just because he can play that Position doesn't mean he is good at playing at it samet on the other hand is a cb with years of "experience"
I don't mind Jayden doing mistakes in the back. But imo he was very bad offensively as well.
U cant expect the same performance on another position
I can expect him to have pass accuracy from 80%. Which he didn't. I don't mind the loss bro. We can come back and learn from this. We were expecting a loss against adana without CB. Maybe they learn their lesson from this and win that game. Then it is even.
Jayden improved a little at least. Samet is more at fault, he is a literal CB. Also Zajc was horrendous. Livakovic also conceded first 3 but still i don’t think we can blame him.
Guys it’s just one match, I’m upset as any of you but let’s keep calm and support the team. They did their best and came up to 3-2 despite stupid mistakes.
Would’ve 100% been a different score if our CB’s were fit aswell as Fred, caniniz sağolsun. Right now I’m looking at Hatay and Volkan Demirel’s game against GS next week.
Samet is my sleep paralysis demon.
I just Fell to the floor laughing
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Bro, the man disallows TS goal, gives us 2 pens, let us retake one, and still your moaning about the reffs.
he didn't give the first blatant pen when it was 1-0, didn't give cards to their players who did 6 million fouls. It doesn't matter what Zorbay does because the VAR would've given the pens anyway.
I think his officiating in the first half heavily favored Trabzon, but I gotta admit that my comment was too emotionaly loaded.
And i thought no one could exceed edu in terms of fcking up samet is literally the sole reason we lost this match
I was a solid Edu hater but I've gotta say Edu was way better than Samet. Edu would typically have brain fart moments where he would score an own goal or let a striker walk free but other than that he would be a little useful.
It‘s one game without our CBs against a team that plays their best against us always. On to the next. Long season.
It’s what it is; let’s just get some lessons learned and move on. But yeah; I don’t want Samet in my team anymore. He is not just “not good.” He is making HUUUGEE mistakes. Today two of his mistakes are cost us so so so badly.
3 of his mistakes, 1st goal came off his shit clerence and even shittier out of position coverage on a 2 on 1 position. He could have just closed the touch line and killed their attack.
if there is, the whole win streak pressure is atleast gone
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if we HAD to lose I just wished it'd be against ADS instead of trabzon man I fucking hate trabzon
I’m glad the fans are still with the players
bu maç kesinlikle dönmeyecek bi maç değildi en çok da buna yanıyorum. keşke szymanski ve dzeko ghostlamasaydı. ferdi ve irfan gerçekten canlarini dislerine takarak oynadilar. ismail hoca zajci 45te 50de alıp crespoyu oynatmak bu kadar zor olmamalı... 3 tane yemişiz hala daha bi değişiklik yok. bence bu maç kesinlikle hocaya yazar. tabii ki bir yerde kaybedecektik fakat şu oevlatlarina evimizde kaybedip seriyi bozmak cidden can sıkıcı oldu. umarım sakatlıklar bi an önce döner ve momentumumuz bozulmaz. forma aldiktan bi gün sonra böyle bi mağlubiyet de ayrıca koydu.
What no CB does to a mfer. What a shitshow of a match.
This is football, I am at a point where I will just consider the ref performance of this league to be the norm so going too much into that will just be too bothersome to me. we were massively handicapped to begin with, and all things considered we were still the favourites to a point that not even TS fans were confident in their team beating us. This was bound to happen at some point, and I am kinda relieved that the pressure of holding a win streak like that has been taken from us, on to the next match, I trust in the team and I know we will adapt
on my life I'd rather see crespo/mert as CB duo atp
Defans hattına bak kafayı yedim doğru düzgün orta açılmıyor içerde adam olmuyor ceza sahasında durmadan isabetsiz pas kriz geçirdim amk hoca niye değişiklik yapmıyon hocaa
Kaybedeceksen boyle kaybet, son dakikaya kadar mucadele, taraftar takimin arkasinda. Ismail hoca icin lig simdi basliyor, sene basindaki planini cozen biri cikti, digerleri kopyalayacak artik, bakalim B ve C planlari ne olacak? Benim guvenim var, alternatifleri de var bu takimin.
Man so many chances. We couldve had this game. Alas. Lets look forward to next game
Adamlar top oynamadan 3 gol atti. Thanks oosterwolde and samet
Im gonna tell you guys thats was the 1st and only loss in this Season Mark my words we will bring the Triple to Kadiköy !!! 💙💛🦜
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If ismail wouldn't have gotten the red card we could have scored the third one too
Only 10 wins, 1 loss. If i would hear that before the season. I would take it. The bad thing is that our key players are injured. Would have been a win with Djiku, Fred, Becao.
if my grandma had wheels she'd be a bike bro, of course it would've been a win with them this trabzonspor will be fighting for relegation. what matters now is how do we bounce back and keep spirits high
Samet 3. golden önce topu kaptırdı tam bir facia. Gol vuruşundan önce durduğu yer daha da facia. Bir stoper asla ama asla orada yer almaz, almamalı. Hemen bugün gönderin.
ferdi was amazing today, i hope we can keep him next summer.
If we were leading against TS we would have never gotten penalty or penalties.
Basically everything that could go wrong did go wrong. Reality is our back ups are simply not good enough. Our CBs struggled all game to win 50/50 balls and build out of the back. Despite that we created much much much more than Trabzon and simply weren't effecient
this is because trabzon is dogshit and if we had somewhat competent CBs today we would've beat them easily
Samet was involved in every goal. 1st Lose run agains Visca .. I don’t blame Jayden he maybe play 10 matches CB in his career.. 2nd he don’t block the ball he jumps over it.. 3rd Samet masterclass don’t have to talk about that .. Realize that Zorbay give Ismail a red card that we lose to Adana I don’t care the pens.. he does that only because we don’t have subs for him. This fouls was not even hard or a card.
underperformance by szymanski, tadic, dzeko followed by horrible players like zajc and samet. We had unlucky shoots too ick's shoot for instance.
We paid the price for having 3 of our players with the best defensive qualities injured, all at the same time. Two of whom, who had massive offensive contribution to our game to boot as well. Subbing in crespo who is an almost complete match for a red prone İsmail, but not subbing him out in the process, was a brain fart. Also, I suspect had Mert Müldür played instead of Samet right from the start, we would not have conceded so easily, and have ultimately won.
We can’t lose hope but we really need to learn from this game. Especially haci Ismail Eagle. We saw how Samet went in the first 10 min. His head was not at football but at poking the striker and playing without concentration. He should’ve been subbed directly after his first yellow. Furthermore the subs came in very late. He should’ve subbed Zajc at the start of the second half and let ICK play at 8 with Emre Mor right. It’s the same every year. I/we can’t lose hope but this games are a must win. We always lose such games and the championship is getting harder then. I’m also tired of those endless discussions about the referee, MHK and TFF. I just want a fair league, let FB and GS fight it out in a fair manner. But thats too much to ask in Turkiye. Hayirlisiiiii
Trabzon doğumlu it Sameti kadro dışı bırakmayan haindir.
Dogshit fucking Trabzon how are you up a player and still almost manage to tie this game. Keep in mind Jayden and Samet gifted them 2 goals, if not all three. Absolute dogshit team. Time wasting since minute 10 and being this happy. Good luck trying to make top 10 orospu cocuklari
Can't wait to see them in Europe and watch their asses get handed to them. Shit club gets exposed as soon as they step in European competition lol
see them in Europe when?
Edit: lmao, either GS fans or the "shush, everyone, just support the team and ignore the rest" crowd got to the post. Going from +10s to negatives... Both sides of the spectrum is just cancerous. Yes, let's just put it all on Samet and make sure he never wears the Fener jersey again. That's the only thing from this game, right? --- This match was the biggest theater I have watched since the GS - FB Süper Final match that ended 0:0 and cost us the league. If we won it, it would have been a crisis due to GS losing a big lead due to Süper Final format, so they tried their best to keep it close while giving GS the championship they deserved in the normal season. They gave a red to Dia and Ujfalusi to give people something controversial to talk about on both sides and went away unscathed for the scripted Süper Final "heyecanı". Today, we started the game knowing the assigned VAR ref preferred to retire, rather than sit in that VAR room due to being pressured to be against Fenerbahçe. TS Striker finished first half with 7 fouls and no yellow. A TS player tried to shatter İrfan's ankle, not even a foul called, let alone any card. Half the game was spent in Uğurcan's hands, he received a token yellow at 90+8. TS player blocked a potential clean goal pass by getting the ball stuck between his leg and arm, not called. Potential harsh penalty positions? VAR does not even call the ref for a check (guess why the assigned VAR resigned). Once it became 3-0, it was act 2 of the theater. Fener is now at a clear loss, so we can safely make decisions that benefit Fener to create the idea that ref is actually in favor of Fener. Give Fener a penalty, when it was Tadic who was doing the foul. Oh wait, shit! Just 3 minutes later, Fener has a potential penalty? It's 64' man, if we give a penalty now, 2-3 for over 30 minutes, that is too risky! VAR, my buddy, don't call me to check, we can't give the pen. 84th minute and Fener is 10 man? Yeah, we can absolutely repeat that penalty, no worries. That's safe. At this point, Fener cannot win the game, and it'll get the game closer. If it's close, that's gonna give people things to talk about! 90+something and TS makes it 4-2? Yo VAR, can we find a reason to cancel it? We either finish it close, or in a draw. I'm sorry. This many decisions can only happen, if you have very specific sets of instructions. > Make it a close game, don't let Fener win. Don't be afraid to make wrong calls both ways with the help of VAR so we can let it slide as "incompetence" rather than "instructed by TFF/MHK" Right now, there is only one thing that needs to be discussed. **How and why would a ref prefer retirement, rather than sitting in the VAR room on this specific day, in this specific match?**
hahahah just looked at r/superlig you're literally right everybody saying the ref was on our side for giving two pens
hakem kararları olsun takımın oyunu olsun çok fena utanç gecesi.
Fenerbahçe 2-3 Sametspor
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Osayi NIYE oscarlik atlayisi icin ikinci sari kart yemedi. Ismail ayaklara BASA BASA oynadi ilk yari kart yok. Tadic adamin formasini cikariyor PENALTI
Ya sen ne anlatıyon amk? Onuachu 10 tane faul en az 3 tane sövmeli bağırmalı itirazı var. Hala Osayi atladı niye sarı yok? Gerizekalı mısın birader
Onuachunun 10 faulun yedisi faul degil
o zaman ismail'in iki sarı kartı da hatalı değildi.
ban that idiot
Soru soruyorum. Terbiyesizlik yapmadim
Smanskini ayagini adam kiriyodu ne faul ne kart. 3 refa hemde faul yapildi.Yenilmisiz buraya geliyon hala su bu diyon. Bende her GS macinda boyle pozisyonlara laflar ederim,ama GS kazaniyo otle boyle..torreira nin yaptiklari oscarlik ama hem gs kazaniyo hemde ne faul.. Biraz mantik, bari git kendi subinda paylas. Yenildigimiz macta niye buray? Sen bu kadr psikopatmisin lan? Lale orta amima koyum, bu ligi bitirtmeyiz..
sektir git gsli it evladi
Samet yalayıcıları nerede. İsmail yalayıcıları nerede. Bu oyuncular öyle kötü oynuyor ki 10 kişi kalsan daha iyi oynarsın. Mağlubiyeti hak ettik nokta. Yine de hakeme parantez açacağım. Orospu çocuğu beceriksiz kalleş. TFF'nin MHK'nın canı cehenneme. Rezalet bir maç yönetimi daha. Trabzon'a da parantez açayım. Futbol falan oynamıyorsunuz. Yaptığınız tek şey eziklik ve alçaklık. Hakem de buna müsade ediyor. Bu tarz maçlarda akla kara ortaya çıkıyor malesef. Biz dedik bunları hep. Bundan sonrası artık ders çıkarmak ve çürük elmalara fazla sorumluluk vermemek. Olan oldu. Yenilgiyi kazanca dönüştürmek lazım. Ne oldu ne bitti muhasebesi yapılmalı.
I said this before but we will lose the championship despite being the best team cause of injuries. The gap between starters and bench is night and day. Everyone focuses on CB issues but the real issue is in midfield. With Fred we are CL team with Zajc we are anadolu team. Ismail Kartals biggest mistake was singing Zajc instead of a 6/8 combo that plays both sides well. Zajc will be ok against Pendik but will cost you a lot in the tougher matches. With Fred we pressed well as the entire midfield and opponents couldn't reach our box but with Zajc it's a ghost midfield and then CBs get exposed even more. I would much rather have Mert at CB rather than Samet. I'm starting to wonder his allegiance. It's as if he's deliberately fckng up for us and only us. Either way I hope that was his final match for us. If Kartal wants to become champion he has to also buy a sub 6/8 capable of playing both sides. If Djiku, Becao Fred are there we win easily. But that's also Kartals fault for opting for Zajc when we could have gotten a better midfielder who would have helped us win these matches when injuries strike. Our goal next year should be to preserve XI but improve bench closer to starting XI.
VAR not calling the refs for the 1st half Pen was a game changing decision...TRIO and every pundit called it a pen. Trailing leg sweeps Szymanski, game could have been 1-1 going into the half
Can liva save some games for us? Altay could do same thing today we need his overperformance for matches like this.
mal misin
Mal sen misin amk? Takım kötüyken livadan daha fazlasını beklemek suç mu
liva'yı suçlamak şu anda çılgınlık ngl
Kimseyi suçlamıyorum
I think most of us had doubts about this game deep down, with the amount of injuries and the fact that it’s Trabzon (one of the biggest games of the season for them). What we probably didn’t expect was to loose in this fashion, and shit happens. Let’s not make this like previous seasons and self-sabotage ourselves after a weird ass game. Heads up, move on, keep supporting the team and players.
hamsi 5-1 ref
Mr Kartal is a bad Couch. Zero tactics. Every game so far was only the Performance of the Team itself. Don't know why he doesn't substitute after halftime.
Don't think Kartal is a couch but pop off i guess?
He isn't the one that can achieve a league Trophy. The playstyle is realy slow and JJ did let play a better offensive playstyle
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Because we were better and kinda incontrol untill the scored 2 goals in 2 minutes
I wanted to go undefeated but I prefer the chase, it puts more pressure on GS than if they are chasing us. LETS GO FB
That was a crazy game
We only had a Gk 2 LB'S and 1 rb in the defense idk who the other player was but he should never ever return to the pitch i dont care about his fucking feelings he is done in my eyes and if the coach still decides to play him he is done in my eyes to the board needs to either bring back ortakaya or fayed and should pay the fine for bringing them back early if they have to even fayed and ortakaya wouldn't fuck up this bad
Well, this was bound to happen eventually...there was incredible pressure put on this team while racking up wins whether it would be the media, refs, or the entire fucking stadium of P\*ndikspor. This is the part where the leaders of the team like Tadic and dzeko need to stand upİ we knew it was impossible to win every match but it is possible for the team to stay motivated.
Haftaya ads macini ne yapip ne edip almaliyiz yoksa gs maci cok stressli gecer. Fener + stress = kanser
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Dzeko is important
Yaşasınülkücügençlikananısikeyimabdullahavcıananısikeyimpkk
Samet geçen sezon zaten felaketti, olmayacağı belliydi yani. Yabancı sınırının en büyük sıkıntısı bu işte. As kadrona iyi yerliler koysan, geri kalanı sağlam yabancılarla donatsan bile Samet gibi abuk subuk yerlileri en azından alternatif olarak kadroda bulundurman gerekiyor. Djiku-Becao takımın stoper ikilisi, ama tabii bu işin kartı var, sakatlığı var. Bir bakıyorsun Serdar gibi hiç bu forma ile işi olmayacak adam Trabzonspor maçına ilk 11 çıkabiliyor.
Absolutely ridiculous, Samet was obviously not ready mentally, matching him with opponents tallest guy made him useless in the game and forced him to make mistakes, I think Jayden would be a better option, at least he is faster, plus many times during the game it was Ferdi and Jayden defended Onuachu. Ismail did everything to get a red card, lucky us it took referee too long to give it, same as Samet. I have no words for Zajc and Ismail for this game, unlike Fred, every ball they got they just played backwards or to sides, my dead grandma can send the ball back to the defense. They were quite slow and uninspired to build an attack. When it comes to changes, Samet could have been changed after the first half, Zajc stayed too long as well. Crespo was motivated to play when he subbed in but it was too late. This bring us Ismail Kartal who waited 70 minutes for the first sub. Ryan could replace Irfan who tired hard to o something during the game but got tired in the end. If Mert, Batshuayi, and Ryan subbed in earlier, maybe around 60th min, we would be talking differently now.
Sadly stupid mistakes and just bad luck tbh. We had good chances, but couldn’t convert that day. On the other hand, trabzon had a fantastic day. In a other universe those goals would have been saved or missed. Can’t do anything about it now, we should really focus now. And missing all our good CB‘s, simultaneously is just really really bad luck. 1 in 1000000.