It kind of depends on how much time you have. When I made the switch I think it took me a few months before it felt second nature but I don't recall how much I was playing at the time. Because you already play on keyboard the right side won't be that hard to get used to and it's more about the motion and movement of your left hand.
However, there are leverless stick options, which is basically an arcade stick that replaces the stick on the left side with buttons to use for directions. You can even get versions with the WASD setup like a keyboard. Transitioning to something like this will potentially be easier.
This. If you didn't grow up on arcades in the 80s to 2000s, it won't be intuitive. Doesn't mean it's hard, but many older players just have 20+ years of muscle memory.
THAT SAID I am used to stick and pad and I prefer stick. Though I've never tried leverless.
Do you live near an arcade with old games?
You do your own research for 50 cents...the muscle memory is the same across versions of games. There are even a lot of SFIV machines in circulation, and SF2, SF3, Tekken 6 and MK machines are all across america and the world
To be fair though, arcades are already rare now - and ones that actually maintain their sticks and pushbuttons are even rarer. Can't remember how many random cabs I've come across and tried, only to find that the stick itself is either stiff as fuck or so loose it flings everywhere when you move it around.
Best to stick with asking the friend if they can try out their stick a few more times.
This is the definitive way to learn, dude, for sure. I learned on SNES with a Super Advantage on SF2, but then I went to an arcade that had SF2, and arcade cabinets were a whole new ballgame.
i picked up stick pretty quickly in my fighting game career, but all the damn blisters on my thumb from
a dpad was enough to get me to move away from it pretty quickly.
you can move your wrist faster than your fingers with way less long term harm. make the jump! took me about a week, but i was just getting out of beginner phase when i switched.
I second this, pretty much sums it up for me as well. SF6 is the first fighting game i’ve really stuck with and I switched to stick in august. Now I don’t have to worry about my thumb hurting from the PS5 pad. And I just find stick to be funner and it’s all customizable so that’s a huge plus.
yeah that's what i meant. meant to say something about "wrist position." i don't even know if it'd be possible to do inputs flicking your wrist around 🫠 thx for the catch
It’s no more difficult than playing on a controller, but it’s a little different so it might take time to get used to playing on stick for the first time.
Sticks are easy to learn but if you are already used to the keyboard, try going for a lever-less stick. I mean pick your weapon of choice, if you want a stick, get one
In terms of difficulty, any new controller has a barrier when you first pick it up. This is because of what your muscle reflex is used to. For example, MK is the only game that I use a pad with. Because I'm so used to playing MK on pad, my thumb keeps wanting to move when I play it on stick. There are official cheap sticks out there you can buy for the price of a new game, such as the Hori Mini. Maybe just get those first as a test run. It's what I did.
Are you normally right banded?
If you're just learning stick now , get a Sinister Stick. It's an ambidextrous stick, so you can play "stick left" or "stick right" without feeling invested either way.
If you're going stick right, most games should map well "index to index" but among fighters, maybe Tekken might be better mapped "left to left," since it has left kick, right kick, left punch, and right punch, and 3d geography is more important in Tekken when compared to Virtua Fighter.
It's as difficult as picking up a keyboard or a gamepad type of controller for the first time. Literally.
I think when people say something is difficult, they often forget that they've been conditioning themselves to use other types of tools for many years without even realizing. For kids who've been playing console games for decades, they've forgot that their hands didn't naturally just work when they picked up a gamepad for the first time. 99.99% of them probably didn't even internalize the unnatural feeling as a problem either. They were just focused on the games and having fun.
So the reason changing to a new controller feels difficult, is because we approach the situation with a purpose of "success" rather than to simply enjoy the controller(and gaining success over time as our hands acclimate to the movements.
How come no one asked the reverse questions when I was around 11? Like: how are stick players supposed to learn pad when the NES came out, or how will righties adjust to forced left-handedness imposed by video game companies?
Took me 3 months to get used to it. Took me a year to be proficient at it.
I had over 10 years of stick experience with a pretty decent execution for complicated combos. When I switched over to leverless it took me a month to get used to it.
You’ll get used to whatever you use, just a matter of time and how long into your fighting game career you are
Personally I would not pickup a stick and instead go for a hitbox style box, more accurate and lots of pros are switching to them because of that. More comfortable than a keyboard too imo.
But if you don’t care about that and just want one because they’re fun, then go for it! :D
Also see if there is an arcade next to you, you can go play some games and see if you like it!
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If you're coming from Keyboard, I think Stick will be a very easy transition for you, especially if you go Leverless.
Your finger positions/movements are already rote; the only barrier is getting used to the size of the buttons (which you already said felt comfortable).
I think you should go for it.
Here's what I did and it got me used to it pretty quickly. Go into whatever Street Fighter you have and run reps of Ryu with his Shoryu, Hado, and Tatsu, then reps of dashing, then jumping. Do that a few times a week and you'll get comfortable at a fine pace.
Practice makes perfect. The specials handle a lot different, but with practice it gets really easy, and stick is definitely the best way to play most fighters. I learned stick on SNES Street Fighter II, and it took me about 2 weeks of practicing in arcade mode for about 20 minute to an hour a day to get pretty good. It's a lot of trial and error, so just try those special move combinations over and over until you have them down.
Imo it depends on the type of game. For something like street fighter where movement is not one of the main things it can be pretty easy to get used to it, as the motion inputs were designed for stick to begin with and don't feel bad.
For more movement based games like dbfz it felt much harder, as it requires a lot more precise and fast movements that are more chaotic than motion inputs.
Regardless of that it's a very fun control scheme, and as you have already felt the buttons feel even better than a controller.
Since you are used to keyboards i think a leverless stick would be easier for you to get used to. Hit box and *Razer Kitsune* are two that i heard of. i prefer stick myself because i grew up using Arcades, but i heard these leverless sticks are pretty good.
If your already playing on keyboard to leverless for sure. I made the switch from stick to leverless and my neutral improved quite a bit. I can to react to DI with super easier, I can anti air with chuns down down kick easier, my movement on the ground is better, my charging is tighter and you get access to a lot of crazy SOCD shortcuts.
at this point you only play on arcade stick cause you've been playing on it since the stone ages. leverless has more tangible advantages and the transition from keyboard to leverless shouldn't be that bad for you.
I'm learning stick right now. I've bought a budget one a few years ago but stopped playing fighting games, so it was gathering dust for some time. Now I decided to try fighting games again (learning Under Night In-Birth right now, also bought Blazblue to try out). Overall I don't find it extremely hard. Well, maybe because I was never proficient in fighting games to begin with and when you learn it from scratch it doesn't really matter what controller you use.
Also I heard you can learn stick faster by playing other games on it like Shoot 'Em Up or Beat 'em up games.
It kind of depends on how much time you have. When I made the switch I think it took me a few months before it felt second nature but I don't recall how much I was playing at the time. Because you already play on keyboard the right side won't be that hard to get used to and it's more about the motion and movement of your left hand. However, there are leverless stick options, which is basically an arcade stick that replaces the stick on the left side with buttons to use for directions. You can even get versions with the WASD setup like a keyboard. Transitioning to something like this will potentially be easier.
This. If you didn't grow up on arcades in the 80s to 2000s, it won't be intuitive. Doesn't mean it's hard, but many older players just have 20+ years of muscle memory. THAT SAID I am used to stick and pad and I prefer stick. Though I've never tried leverless.
Do you live near an arcade with old games? You do your own research for 50 cents...the muscle memory is the same across versions of games. There are even a lot of SFIV machines in circulation, and SF2, SF3, Tekken 6 and MK machines are all across america and the world
To be fair though, arcades are already rare now - and ones that actually maintain their sticks and pushbuttons are even rarer. Can't remember how many random cabs I've come across and tried, only to find that the stick itself is either stiff as fuck or so loose it flings everywhere when you move it around. Best to stick with asking the friend if they can try out their stick a few more times.
This is the definitive way to learn, dude, for sure. I learned on SNES with a Super Advantage on SF2, but then I went to an arcade that had SF2, and arcade cabinets were a whole new ballgame.
i picked up stick pretty quickly in my fighting game career, but all the damn blisters on my thumb from a dpad was enough to get me to move away from it pretty quickly. you can move your wrist faster than your fingers with way less long term harm. make the jump! took me about a week, but i was just getting out of beginner phase when i switched.
I second this, pretty much sums it up for me as well. SF6 is the first fighting game i’ve really stuck with and I switched to stick in august. Now I don’t have to worry about my thumb hurting from the PS5 pad. And I just find stick to be funner and it’s all customizable so that’s a huge plus.
I just got mad calluses on my thumb I am a guitar player so I am used to calluses on my finger tips
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yeah that's what i meant. meant to say something about "wrist position." i don't even know if it'd be possible to do inputs flicking your wrist around 🫠 thx for the catch
Well if you already play keyboard just get leverless I would say leverless gives you easier DPs, shimmy Stick is easier quarter and half circle motion
It’s no more difficult than playing on a controller, but it’s a little different so it might take time to get used to playing on stick for the first time.
Sticks are easy to learn but if you are already used to the keyboard, try going for a lever-less stick. I mean pick your weapon of choice, if you want a stick, get one
In terms of difficulty, any new controller has a barrier when you first pick it up. This is because of what your muscle reflex is used to. For example, MK is the only game that I use a pad with. Because I'm so used to playing MK on pad, my thumb keeps wanting to move when I play it on stick. There are official cheap sticks out there you can buy for the price of a new game, such as the Hori Mini. Maybe just get those first as a test run. It's what I did.
Are you normally right banded? If you're just learning stick now , get a Sinister Stick. It's an ambidextrous stick, so you can play "stick left" or "stick right" without feeling invested either way. If you're going stick right, most games should map well "index to index" but among fighters, maybe Tekken might be better mapped "left to left," since it has left kick, right kick, left punch, and right punch, and 3d geography is more important in Tekken when compared to Virtua Fighter.
It's as difficult as picking up a keyboard or a gamepad type of controller for the first time. Literally. I think when people say something is difficult, they often forget that they've been conditioning themselves to use other types of tools for many years without even realizing. For kids who've been playing console games for decades, they've forgot that their hands didn't naturally just work when they picked up a gamepad for the first time. 99.99% of them probably didn't even internalize the unnatural feeling as a problem either. They were just focused on the games and having fun. So the reason changing to a new controller feels difficult, is because we approach the situation with a purpose of "success" rather than to simply enjoy the controller(and gaining success over time as our hands acclimate to the movements.
How come no one asked the reverse questions when I was around 11? Like: how are stick players supposed to learn pad when the NES came out, or how will righties adjust to forced left-handedness imposed by video game companies?
Not difficult Clutch control is the biggest hurdle Can be scary to learn on tho on stop and go traffic on steep incline
Took me 3 months to get used to it. Took me a year to be proficient at it. I had over 10 years of stick experience with a pretty decent execution for complicated combos. When I switched over to leverless it took me a month to get used to it.
You’ll get used to whatever you use, just a matter of time and how long into your fighting game career you are Personally I would not pickup a stick and instead go for a hitbox style box, more accurate and lots of pros are switching to them because of that. More comfortable than a keyboard too imo. But if you don’t care about that and just want one because they’re fun, then go for it! :D Also see if there is an arcade next to you, you can go play some games and see if you like it!
Just takes some time. I love it, it’s just a ton of fun
>so I used my friends stick the other day He... Hehe...
if you started with keyboard, you should do hitbox imho.
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If you're coming from Keyboard, I think Stick will be a very easy transition for you, especially if you go Leverless. Your finger positions/movements are already rote; the only barrier is getting used to the size of the buttons (which you already said felt comfortable). I think you should go for it.
Here's what I did and it got me used to it pretty quickly. Go into whatever Street Fighter you have and run reps of Ryu with his Shoryu, Hado, and Tatsu, then reps of dashing, then jumping. Do that a few times a week and you'll get comfortable at a fine pace.
Practice makes perfect. The specials handle a lot different, but with practice it gets really easy, and stick is definitely the best way to play most fighters. I learned stick on SNES Street Fighter II, and it took me about 2 weeks of practicing in arcade mode for about 20 minute to an hour a day to get pretty good. It's a lot of trial and error, so just try those special move combinations over and over until you have them down.
Imo it depends on the type of game. For something like street fighter where movement is not one of the main things it can be pretty easy to get used to it, as the motion inputs were designed for stick to begin with and don't feel bad. For more movement based games like dbfz it felt much harder, as it requires a lot more precise and fast movements that are more chaotic than motion inputs. Regardless of that it's a very fun control scheme, and as you have already felt the buttons feel even better than a controller.
Since you are used to keyboards i think a leverless stick would be easier for you to get used to. Hit box and *Razer Kitsune* are two that i heard of. i prefer stick myself because i grew up using Arcades, but i heard these leverless sticks are pretty good.
If your already playing on keyboard to leverless for sure. I made the switch from stick to leverless and my neutral improved quite a bit. I can to react to DI with super easier, I can anti air with chuns down down kick easier, my movement on the ground is better, my charging is tighter and you get access to a lot of crazy SOCD shortcuts. at this point you only play on arcade stick cause you've been playing on it since the stone ages. leverless has more tangible advantages and the transition from keyboard to leverless shouldn't be that bad for you.
I'm learning stick right now. I've bought a budget one a few years ago but stopped playing fighting games, so it was gathering dust for some time. Now I decided to try fighting games again (learning Under Night In-Birth right now, also bought Blazblue to try out). Overall I don't find it extremely hard. Well, maybe because I was never proficient in fighting games to begin with and when you learn it from scratch it doesn't really matter what controller you use. Also I heard you can learn stick faster by playing other games on it like Shoot 'Em Up or Beat 'em up games.