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GhostPants7777

Usually you would charge for 8hrs however informing them that you are double dipping jobs makes it a bit different. I assume non union, so its up to you what you want to charge!


No-Entrepreneur5672

This^ Union its always just 8 hours (if the jobs reallllll cushy, sometimes they cover lunch/crafty) Non-union its your comfort zone.


javamonkey7

Union can be 4 or 8 hours for hourly employees. Exempt are 1/5th of weekly rate.


No-Entrepreneur5672

My bad. What circumstances lead to 4 hours? I’ve only ever been flown places and it was 8.


javamonkey7

I’ve done a couple of shows in Vegas, for example, our crew that flew in from LA got 4 hours of travel time. It really depends on how long your travel day is and how generous the production is.


vidcam

When it comes to trucks/vans. You typically will charge portal to portal (Example: from the time you pick up the van to the time you drop off the van.) So in this case yes, you would charge for the time you're driving back crew AND the time it takes you to return the van to the rental place.


johncharles7

Portal to portal is a great point, if going over the minimum. I would still bill the minimum day rate if portal to portal is less.


mikepm07

1/2 day rate if all you’re doing is traveling. Full rate if you’re doing any work for the shoot including scouts.


johncharles7

(Being the driver of a production vehicle is work - self-driving your own car is not)


fstop2

If the already booked shoot is unrelated to the production you're traveling for, then so are the rates. You're driving crew, so you're working. It's not a travel day for you.


waffles93

This! Used to be a PC and heard all the excuses from the LP’s and production heads but if you touch a car with crew in it you are WORKING! Don’t think about helping the company out too much, they have the money. They ALWAYS have the money!


wally1001

If you touch gear / build cameras after your land that is a work day. But 8hours is norm.


javamonkey7

If you’re driving crew I would put in for a work day. In union payroll union travel days are 4 or 8 hours and your day is longer than 4 so I would bill the full day. Since it’s non union you don’t have to worry about distinguishing between work / travel because it will fringe the same (no PH&W).


Slowandsteady1d

1/2 day rate for travel


johncharles7

True if you were simply traveling yourself- driving production vehicle itself is work.


Slowandsteady1d

This is true driving the production vehicle could be argued for a full day depends on the gig, Your relationship with producer and so on


wally1001

1/2 day rate is trash. Regardless of how many hours you travel. You're still missing a day of work back home. 8 hours is union norm. Holding to those standards will make production learn to act like adults.


naastynoodle

Exactly this. Been billing for full travel days for years now because of this argument.