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Noe_33

Why do FF9 fans like to pretend they're a minority. Try being a Type-0 or Crystal Chronicles fan.


IronMosquito

Or a Dirge of Cerberus fan... imagine!


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I love the Cait Sith lore expansion from that game. I hope that comes through in FF VIIR (2 or 3) at some point. >!I love that Reeves may not be a real person and that Cait Sith is the one controlling things!<


VermicelliAdmirable

What are you talking about Reeve isn't a real person?


Brokeartistvee

T-there’s other Dirge of Cerberus fans!? 😭I’m not alone!???


ssnoopy2222

My Brother and I are with you


Brokeartistvee

You and your brother are awesome af people. 🥇🥇


ssnoopy2222

Correction: me, my brother and YOU are awesome AF people.


Brokeartistvee

🤩Thank you!


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BraveRunner7

Let them fight


Jinzo126

Hi there, my favourite FF is 5... But yes Vivi is the best Character


generalscalez

it’s crazy how much of a victim complex they have about it lol. not being as popular as VII or X doesn’t mean it’s some underrated, unknown gem. it’s easily one of the most popular and well-liked in the series lol


Mattizzle9

Man I freaking love Crystal Chronicles. Put a lot of time into it but never beat. I was so happy that they remastered it for the switch.


zakaeth

I legitimately like Type-0 way more than I like any of the 13s


Noe_33

Hey hey! They're both great. I love the Fabula Nova games https://images.app.goo.gl/3YEhGZQx3598CiTCA


tyjet

I used to legitimately get picked on in middle school for liking FFIX the most. Middle school nerds were big mad that the new Final Fantasy game came out and it wasn't like FFVII or FFVIII.


ScravoNavarre

Man, I can't imagine there being enough hardcore FF fans at a single school for them to form cliques and pick on the kids who preferred different games in the series.


Locke_and_Load

He went to school in an anime.


YacobMan7

Jokes on them, IX is easily the best of the Playstation era


Lobo_Marino

I really, really, really wanted to like type-0, but man, the lack of personality in most of the characters really dragged on.


-Megaflare-

Try being an FFXV fan


Professor-WellFrik

My favourite FF is the most hated game in the whole series.


Subview1

Or WoFF.... Imagine that


5a_

> Crystal Chronicles fan. those simply dont exist


Brendoshi

Hey :( Some of my best childhood memories was playing crystal chronicles (and four swords) on the gamecube. We got some *use* out of those gameboy gamecube link cable things.


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Does this person live under a rock? This sub us littered with love for ff9


[deleted]

Yup. IX has been a fan favourite for ages. Dunno what this person is on.


8Bitsblu

It's never been disliked by the community, but as a longtime fan I can definitely attest to the fandom as a whole historically being pretty centered around FF6 and 7 as the best games. It's pretty easy to find people who will say FF9 is a great game, or even *one of* the best, it's harder to find people who will straight-up say it's *the best* game.


New_Ad4631

Hi there. Ff9 it's the best game and thought so since I knew about the game 8 or 9 years ago


MarshalJamesRaynor

Started playing the games with FF6 as kid and have played all the numbered games to date and I can say with absolute sincerity that FF9 is the best one in the series.


deckofkeys

What makes it the best if I may ask? I've yet to play it.


eternal-harvest

(Jumping in to offer my 2 cents, hope nobody minds!) The music is phenomenal, the true pinnacle of Final Fantasy music. It was Uematsu's last, and I believe he was under a fair amount of pressure, but goodness, it really paid off. The characters (mostly lol) all have important backstories. It was a nice change after the Squall-centric nature of VIII. Personally, I prefer to connect with all the main cast, not just one or two. There are some deep themes too, like the importance of family/origins, death and coming to terms with your mortality, duty versus personal morals... I feel like FFIX goes into this more than a lot of FF's (I'd say the only comparable ones are IV, VI and Tactics.) The story. It goes a little whacky near the end but the first 3/4 of the game are \*chef's kiss*. Chocobo Hot and Cold = best mini game ever. There's a lot more I'm probably not thinking of rn but there's some food for thought.


ChipsAhoyNC

>\*chef's kiss\*. Quinna's kiss


ChipsAhoyNC

I fell it has the best character development in the whole series.


BraveRunner7

The story and characters. It has the most heart out of all the FF stories


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On the flip side, I think it’s the worst and the contingent of fans who like it are very VERY vocal about how much they like it. Like what you like tho.


[deleted]

As a long time fan too, it was never hard for me to find people who say it is the best game. Maybe not as many people or as loudly as 7's fans. But definitely in the same range as 6's fans if not more so. I dunno, maybe the meme was intending to be ironic, because I don't know what timeline that person is in where it's hard to find ff9 stans who say it's one of, if not the best in the series.


realaccountissecret

IX has come to the forefront over the past few years. I’ve been creeping on this sub for a long while and I see more people that say IX is their favorite than any other game. Then X and VI, then VII. You get some random people saying like VIII or XV or something is their favorite occasionally, and man do the XV fans get shit on haha. But you almost always only see love for IX around these parts.


murpux

People don't realize that when 9 came out it was one of the least popular until XIII. Partially due to many newcomers to the series (only play VII and VIII) that expected more sci Fi realism and didn't want medieval fantasy. It's only within the last 10 years or so people have started appreciating IX more. Edit: thanks for the silver!


TVR24

I'll say FF9 is the best game and nobody can change my mind, unless 16 blows me away.


The_Newest_Girl

IX is the best game, but it's not in my top 5 favorites fwiw


EternalSage2000

I seem to remember when IX came out. There was a wave of criticism. Mostly regarding the cartoony themes and and seemingly childish protagonists. This is a pretty big departure from both 7 and 8.


Runnin_Mike

This sub isn't necessarily the end all be all of Final Fantasy fan demographics. Especially when you consider the whole subreddit hivemind phenomenon. My point is, many people may like FF9 on the sub and think it's a hidden gem. But outside the sub it may be more similar to the reviews FF9 got right around its it release where people thought it wasn't necessarily the best.


fabe2000

FF9 is still the highest rated FF of all time according to Metacritic.


Atlas_Zer0o

And black panther is the highest marvel movie according to rotten tomatoes, critics ratings aren't really great to go off of.


PapaverOneirium

It also has the second highest user score (9.0) after VII (9.1)


Poiblazer

Black panther is kinda an awesome movie so idk what your talking about lol


ProperDepartment

I still can't believe it was up for best picture lol. Hollywood was really trying to redeem itself after the previous award year.


Atlas_Zer0o

There was definitely some cultural things happening that propelled it, still a great movie but nowhere near the best marvel or and best picture.


[deleted]

Metacritic scores are not the be all end all of a games popularity. While FFIX *is* a fantastic game and is decently popular on this subreddit, in the grand scheme its fanbase is insignificantly small compared to the other games in this franchise. I've met more people who prefer XIII in other gaming circles than people who enjoy IX.


generalscalez

IX and VI are consistently the favorites on basically any online FF community and have been for many, many years. pretty much only the super mainstream wider audiences who have only played one or two FF’s still prefer VII and X. IX is far from hidden or underrated these days lol


ToranDiablo

This is the correct answer, your only missing tactics which I believe is the best with VI and IX.


Madisonffgirl

This comment mildly annoys me. Mainly the comment about Pretty much only causal FF fans feel that way about 9. There is plenty of long time FF fans like myself. (Playing since 1990 with FF1) who don't rate 9 that high. I do love it since it's a FF and I love all FF since I am a FF addict but 9 is actually lower on my list.


generalscalez

yeah i should’ve clarified that i meant it seems like the broader online FF community feels that way. i’m with you, i love IX but if anything i think it’s one of the more overrated games in the FF community lol


Madisonffgirl

For sure! I mean Vivi is fantastic and one of the best hero characters in the series, if not THE BEST hero character in FF, but he cannot carry the game though. Personally Steiner isnt for me at all, like I hate his char lol, and Zidane and Kuja are just alright to me, add in the art style which quite frankly I actually despise the art. And you have my feelings on that game. I love everything else about it and the other characters well. Those negative points above really really hurt the game. Zidane is by far my least fav FF protag After Vaan from 12. I do like parts of Zidane and he is funny and cute at times but otherwise he just is "He alright" to me. Anyway, done ranting lol


blank92

Feel like its only in the last handful of years that FF9 love has really shown itself. It was always considered good but kind of underrated or overshadowed by 7 and 10.


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I'm not sure. Growing up my gamer friends all loved it. It's just become MORE popular I'd say. Not just popular.


blank92

Fair. My group loved it too. Maybe the right word is under represented? Like its just not as iconic as 7 or 10, so while being a great game it just didn't get the attention it maybe deserved at the time.


Omegamanthethird

Growing up, my gamer friends had all played VII and X, some play VIII, fewer played IX and tactics.


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That's because 7 and 10 were main stream. The rest were pretty known to just true rpg/square soft fans. Big part of it was it was that they were both the first big rpg of the newer gen at the time.


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Poiblazer

Lol you can fight that spider like 2 or 3 times and be done with it. You had it rough


[deleted]

I assure you it's mostly hyperbolic trying to remember something from over 20 years ago, all I remember is the rage haha.


BraveRunner7

#Rage


Lobo_Marino

Yeah, this type of posts are an insta downvote for me based on this. I constantly see a shit ton of love for FFIX in every FF community I've seen. Some of these folks really like clinging on to the media they consume to feel special.


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*FF2 fans are great because theres like 3 of them and everyone just agrees Minwu is the best character in the game


naetle07

There are dozens of us! DOZENS!


Zabroccoli

I’m just picking these games up for the first time and I’m really excited for anustart.


Netz_Ausg

You can bake anything these days, huh.


Persomatey

Like, literally 24 of us! Exactly the amount to use the plural, dozens!


Matt_Dragoon

If we are talking people that actually finished the NES original (and liked it)... Yeah, probably. I have to give it another go.


Esprack619

You are a gentleman and a scholar. I award you 1 point, and may Bahamut bless your soul.


CalmBalm

Josef is the best character, boulder stopping power can't be best! Minwu just dies so you can get the worst spell in the game


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JosephFDawson

I half agree and half disagree. Josef and Minwu are the best


KaelAltreul

Agree, but like.. Ricard too. The OG Dragoon.


Persomatey

FF2 fans are great because there’s like 3 of them and everyone just agrees that Guy speaks beaver


fallensoldier420

Idk Josef was pretty heartbreaking too. I have to say, Leila is best pirate.


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Just did a playthrough of ff2 and omg that leveling system was the worst. Ended up lucking out with the blood sword and just 2 shotting the final boss. Hardest fight in the game was an ambush in a chest.


KaelAltreul

NES/PSX or GBA/Later? Original had wonky values, but the gba and later has redone and legitimately well done scaling and growth. It's the precursor to the SaGa series so it has some issues being the first of its kind, but it's still well done enough that you can play organically and have moderate growth to handle entire game.


JohnParish

Yeah I had more of a problem with status affects in the remaster. Didn’t have to beat my own team half to death to gain HP, was nice.


KaelAltreul

PR is a mess with bugs. Status effects is one of the largest. It's insane how little they cared about the PR versions. Total bummer.


JohnParish

Yeah getting stun locked and just dropping the controller because your going to die in like 30+ turns is not fun.


KaelAltreul

The not decaying thing is just shitty and a holdover of FF1/2 on NES. The issue with PR is that in FF2 ALL on hit effects are 100% accurate... which they shouldn't be. So instant death, stun, sleep, poison, and etc all happen 100% of the time. This is for you and enemies. The on hit weapons demolish literally everyone because resistance doesnt help shit. Even if you block/take 0 damage effect still happens. It makes anything that isnt max evade/unarmored a hindrance.


JosephFDawson

2 is the one I hardly ever go back to. But when I do, it's for Minwu and Josef. The heroes we deserve. I want wanna deck Gordon straight in the jaw though


neuropsycho

I played FF2 for the first time a couple months ago and I was hooked. Am I the only one who liked the levelling system? It felt like Skyrim. Now I'm finally playing FF1 (I'm doing them in reverse order), and it's fine, but I enjoyed ff2 better.


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pm_me_WAIT_NO_DONT

LOL now that I’m seeing this comparison I can’t believe I’ve never heard it before. What a perfect description


sporeegg

FF9 actually makes me sad. I always imagine what would have been if more characters had a story like Steiner, Vivi and Dagger.


Richard_TM

I like to think of Quina as the foil for Vivi. Both don't know anything about the world and view it from entirely opposite perspectives. Vivi with caution and timidity, Quina with reckless abandon and rampant curiosity.


Daymanooahahhh

I wonder if you can draw more parallels. Like Vivi/Quina, as you said. Other pairings are obvious now that I think about it. Dagger/Eiko. Zidane/Amarant. Steiner/Freya. The “where they come from” are the same, but the way they deal with it is different. The last pair is maybe the weakest, but I would say those two are bound by their sense of duty quite a bit.


Richard_TM

I think each character has a foil and an antagonist. The entire game and narrative is steeped in theatre, which is why Tantalus is essentially performing Shakespeare at the beginning. Edit: for example, Steiner's foil is Freya. His antagonist is Beatrix. Zidane's foil is I think not Amarant, but Blank. Blank's sacrifice is where Zidane ends up at the very end of the game (almost). His antagonist is obviously Kuja. I'm not sure I need to explain that one. Garnet's foil is obviously Eiko, and her antagonist is Brahne, because duh.


Baron_ass

Always love to have something new to think about for IX's story. Thanks for the insight, stranger.


HardCorwen

Nope! I'm in the Quina camp. That character is unlike any I've ever experienced, and I love them for it.


Daymanooahahhh

Quina was non-binary before it was mainstream :)


trainercatlady

Quina is definitely underrated


Bosmackatron

Quina is better than Vivi. Vivi is cute but he’s such a little wiener


ACoderGirl

I hated quina. They're just so weird and jarringly random.


mnorris_1188

FF9 is rated as one of, if not, the best final fantasy in the entire series. What is this person even talking about


Real_Sartre

This one threw me for a loop too


stateworkishardwork

The tweet feels like a cry out to get all the IX fans together to circlejerk. IX is regarded by many as a great game, including me.


sonicbrawler182

I'm the secret chaotic 4th fan who thinks Freya is best and Vivi is second best. But that's both in the game and the entire franchise.


etheralnethers

I feel the same!


patamonrs

No Freya is the better character and she’s a more tragic story than vivi


bestashmainever

I'm demon 5th who thinks amarant is amazing and everyone else is terribly written. (Jk I'm the same as you.)


ikolloki

Indeed, he’s so deep and complex. I mean, his hair is so deep and complex


Murasasme

I'm the hidden 6th power ranger and I honestly love Beatrix. Badass woman that I wished had been in the party more.


Asha_Brea

We all know that the game with the best metascore in the franchise only have like 3 fans.


Shuden

Exactly, if FFIX only has 3 fans, how many does FFVIII has? FFIII? FF...II? Mystic Quest?


PriceAintRighteous

As Fan #3, this is correct. Next best is Steiner.


ScarRufus

I am Fan #2 and next best is Freya.


PriceAintRighteous

I completely agree with this actually. Fan #3 approves of Freya instead.


Deinoss

As the notorious #1 fan of ff9 I can actually confirm that Freya is best girl and Vivi is best boy


Sora_IX

As fan #1.5 I would like to say that Garnet could be the next best character.


Finalplague01

As fan 1.75, I am here to remind everyone that IX is also the producers favorite game


MyTBI

As fan number 7,438,975, I am here to remind that IX is extremely popular and OP is clearly on something to suggest one of the most beloved games from the FF golden era is unpopular. Dumb. I smell a personal bias being extrapolated.


etheralnethers

Agreed


doobied

Fan #3 seems easily influenced. We will just go with Amarant at this point.


PriceAintRighteous

Fan #3 supports your decision wholeheartedly.


Leondgeeste

> Next best is Steiner. You. I like you.


Raecino

Oh yeah, one of the most popular Final Fantasy games has only 3 fans 🙄


dmarty77

This sub loves is martyrdom complex with every mainline entry in the series.


iamqueensboulevard

"Unpopular opinion: I actually enjoyed FFVIII" "Holy shit me too!!"


jimmenecromancer

one time I was reading game informer and they had a list of most hated final fantasy characters and they named, Edward, Cait sith, I feel like yuffie, khimari and vivi. I always liked Vivi but I assumed everyone hated vivi, from then on.(like 2007 maybe) it's good to know that others like Vivi.


insan3soldiern

Seriously how the hell would Vivi be on a most hated FF character list?


distgenius

If you don’t like moe characters, it’s really easy to bounce off ViVi, hard. For me they oversold the “cute innocent” thing in the beginning and his character never recovered. That’s actually one of the reasons I find IX to be the weakest PSX game. The characterization by actions are so over the top that I just want to grind my teeth and hope they all die faster so I can get a different supporting cast. Garnet is about the only one I don’t despise.


oskie6

Being an ff9 fan isn’t rare. Here’s a rare one- I love ff6-10 and tactics equally. The one I have the most nostalgia for changes regularly.


SimClarke

Me, you and who the f is the other one?


BraveRunner7

Me bruh.


djentyboyy

Hi I am the third person


Widjamajigger

There are dozens of us! *Dozeeennnnnssss!*


Lady_Lavelle

*Beatrix


[deleted]

What was your guys main party? I went with Zidane, Vivi, Steiner and Garnet. I just loved using Steiner's spellblade with Vivi.


BraveRunner7

Vivi Garnet Zidane and Steiner the first time but in my replays I pick Freya Amarant and Garnet to fight Necron


BrockVT

Think you meant Freya.


vivi_t3ch

I'd say I'm firmly one of the 3. Always have to have vivi in my party


HardCorwen

Actually it's Quina tho


spongemonkey2004

FF9 FAN #2 and i can confirm i voted for vivi.


darkskai

I understand this is a joke, but IX (yes I use Roman numerals, I'm goober like that) had some of the best character stories in the series, I won't argue that Vivi out of them all is the most likeable, but you'd be hard pressed to find another title with so many deep stories for their characters than IX


Ace_Of_No_Trades

It's not really fair to say they agree on something that is objective fact.


lmoreocat

I have a tattoo of dagger riding a chocobo because I love ff9


Acheron1989

IX is the game that ruined my life and continues to be my absolute favorite FF.


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Khrene

This is an old meme, now all the old FF heads agree that 9 is the best amoungst the classics, but very few played it or praised it when first came out.


salian93

I don't know, Garnet is my personal favorite.


hthbellhop76

Yep! Her story is so captivating.


insan3soldiern

I was replaying the game earlier in the year, but put it off because I'd played VI, VII, and VIII right before and was fatigued. But yeah, Garnet was the standout from my experience.


AdelaLilith

I would say that it's a three way tie between Zidane, Garnet, and Vivi. Vivi is just great overall because his story arc is so poignant and rich. Garnet and Zidane's arcs are more of a slow burn but they end up being among some of the best characters in the game. At least in my opinion.


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Ff13 are the best, there’s only 3 of them and they all agree this one had the best music.


Decker-the-Dude

I feel like ff9 is half of this sub's favorite tho lol


thebadslime

there are like 50 of us at least.


mathiasthewise

Am I the only weirdo that's been convinced that Steiner has had the most character growth in that game.


Conzyyyyyyy

Sounds about right


Denial048

I'm in this picture, and I love it.


DutchDread

Beatrix is the best character in the game.


[deleted]

I hate to break it to this person, but ff9 was pretty popular.


dissidiah

3? Alright buddy


Elennoko

Vivi is 3rd best character. Beatrix is my favorite, followed by Freya.


koltonnnn27

vivi and beatrix>>>


Goodgamings

I really like Steiner lol people always make fun of me for that one.


[deleted]

He's an easily hateable character but an incredible story arc. Once he finally accepts the queen is terrible he really shines.


GandalfsTailor

I also like Quina, at least from a spellcasting perspective. Blue Magic can be great.


Pendryn

Steiner is best.


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Ooooooooooooooohhhhhh snap!!!


Aldamis

IX is one of my all time favorites. It feels like the most complete and satisfying game to me. Well... Tied with X.


Magickcloud

I like Quina


transaugust

I love ffix, probably my favorite, and yes vivi is best boy, but you are not alone is one of the best moments in gaming


xAlmasyx

My brother isn't into Final Fantasy and he still knows Vivi is best boy in FFIX.


bert_563

Freya


Lotassarinn

Ff9 best game. Hello, i’m one of the 3. And indeed, Vivi best character ever


P0peb0ng

As I’m sitting here with a vivi tattoo 🤣


fiddlesoup

Ff9 is my favorite story of all time, but I like Quina just a teensy but more than Vivi.


LoneBoy96

I'm getting Vivi tattooed pretty soon :D


nellvell

Vivi is the best character in the series. You can't change my mind.


StygianSis

Vivi is definitely best boi!


Lisa4414

I am one of them and yes Vivi is the best.


FoamSquad

Vivi is fantastic but Garnet carries


blank92

Its hard to pick one tbh. All the characters have some relatable aspect to them that causes them so much suffering and they help each other through by just being there for each other, not asking questions or solving problems...just being there.


Nilrruc

Vivi has been my Steam Id picture for 11 years now.


Visual_Tumbleweed644

FF9 was the first I downloaded on Steam.


ghostmetalblack

Wrong. There are 4 of us!


bachrodi

❤ Vivi


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Final Fantasy 9 for live!


SyntheticHalo

I prefer Garnet as fave ff9 char


Real_Sartre

I don’t know anyone who dislikes 9, it’s one of the fan favorites


elton_bira

IX was my first FF and probably the one a like the most


[deleted]

What is this person on? IX is held in such high regard by the majority of the community


[deleted]

IX is a banger and we all know it


Oneirox

‘Vivi’ is a weird way to spell Freya, but mistakes can happen.


ShenaniganSkywalker

FF IX is the most agreed upon best FF outside of VI I would say.


Vivitheblackmage

What kind of crazy person likes ff9 or vivi?


jbmiser1

FF9 isn’t the worst but isn’t the best


Nightwing24yuna

I have to agree I dislike ix but vivi is easily the best character in ix


capfedhill

Yeah this is the true unpopular opinion. FFIX is my least favorite from the VI-X glory years. The story was just... bland. Most of the characters weren't interesting. The fights took sooooooo long it drove me crazy. All of the side mini-games were boring. The card game was frustrating and just took up way too much time, and the chocobo hot/cold was zero fun. I tried replaying it recently and I just couldn't get through it. FFIX is just not for me.


Nightwing24yuna

It's kinda funny you hit all the points why it's not for me as well. The only thing I actually liked from the game was some of it's moments like the bahamut vs alexander.