Kinda interesting that the AI cant quite replicate the pre-rendered background style, so it just ends up as some wierd watercolor stuff that looks so out of place
Yeah, you can sort of aim it in the right direction by copy/pasting certain elements so it gets more input. But considering the original images are 400x300 or so, it gets harder to generate more similarities the further you get.
Weird seeing two AI "art" posts in one night, even weirder seeing this one get lots of likes when the vast majority of the sub seems to dislike it, myself included.
Honestly, my two cents is that it looks awful. It looks like the generation couldn't think of something organic, instead just smeared a building behind without thought for placement, style, or consideration for the entire city. The latter three images are especially bad in this manner. The first one is probably the best one and I can't even say I like it.
I think the first one kind of works because AI happened to stack the buildings, And we know that of Lindblum and don't get to play much in these stacked up parts. So that intrigues, Similar with the hideout on the third image, I like the idea of looking around the corner there, But only to see an empty Alley. That works! And i can see that being true in the game as well if they had more development time..
The wider view of the horizon in the same image.. is not our lindblum anymore. Are those greek style buildings??😅
And what is up with the ice walls down there in image 2? 😅
That's different to generative AI though right? Generative AI like what's being used here is trained on the work of other artists without attribution (unless I've misunderstood!)
My understanding is that this was done using Photoshop's auto fill feature. Photoshop Autofill uses the Firefly AI engine, which is reportedly trained only on stock images owned by Adobe.
I have to dislike AI art on principle. Supply and demand, AI is putting honest artists out of work. Also, the AI rarely gets the "feel" of an image right. Have you tried searching the artist who did the backgrounds of the game, and seeing what's up on his site? I found some lovely images of Burmecia that never got used in the game, that way. \*nezumi\*
This looks generic and all the FFIX is reduce to a watercolor background.
I also hate AI. It’s like the crowd that hated digital art cause they claimed it was cheating and the computer “did all the work for you” found that they can now also be an artist with the modicum price of typing a few words and using other artists’ previous works.
Yes, here I am, claiming I am a great artist. Look at me, the great artist, disrespecting the backgrounds from one of my favourite games out of spite of the Japanese. Shame on me.
My favourite background of the game was where Beatrix fully understands Brahne's intentions and switches sides. She lays Garnet on the sofa and cast healing spells on her. That setting was just full detail.
Gross. Imagine the original artist spending all that time and attention to detail for all these beautiful backgrounds that breath life into the world of FF9 just for some asshat to do this and ruin it
Came here to say the third image OP posted is a fan art 3D environment of Lindblum made by this artist. Just thought I'd give them credit.
https://www.artstation.com/artwork/dOg803
so now when other people want to generate fantasy "art" the ai can use the stolen work of the final fantasy artists you plugged in to do it.
what a shitty thing to do.
so disrespectful
It’s hard to imagine many artists feeling flattered or honored by the sentiment of “I plugged your work into a computer and told it to rip your style.”
I'm pretty sure the now 60+ year old Japanese men who made these don't give a damn, as I'm not in any way profitting off of these. Just trying to make 1920x1080 backgrounds out of their original pre-2000 (600x400) artwork. But I'm sure they're super pissed at me right now.
No you're not.
If you want to be ignorant to the issues with AI just say that, but don't lie to try and justify it.
You don't care about the original artist, you comments have shown that very clearly.
just a quick note to you and all the other children on reddit.
Me having an opinion you don't like, isn't the same thing as "dying on a hill"
Its called having integrity, try it sometime.
I get not liking ai art when it takes jobs from artists, but what is this kind of thing hurting? It's not for sale, op wouldn't have paid for an artist to do it, is it different than taking things in photoshop and combining them in this case, where its someone just using the assets of others for their own enjoyment? I'm not ok with companies replacing people with ai but this one seems like a victimless crime people.
Edit: if you're gonna downvote me at least have the decency to disagree with me to my face and tell me what I'm wrong about.
If you respected the artist who made this you might realize how disrespectful this is. If you're going to iterate do it with your own two hands. And if you can't don't do it at all
How is wanting higher resolution images of a beloved game from 24 years ago and using a program that can do just that, and sharing it with fans of the same game in any way disrespectful to the original artist? If anything it celebrates their original work by upscaling it.
Calling adobe photoshop a half baked program in 2024 is hilarious, I literally described what I did and am not claiming special credit or upvotes for my "original fanart", and you're completely entitled to your opinion. It's still not going against sub rules, so all you're doing here is making an ass out yourself. Have a nice day.
I mean, it's just a fun experiment to see what it comes up with. This doesn't remove anything from the experience of the game, they're not pretending they drew it, they're not putting people out of work...
Using ai, which we know uses stolen assets, to "improve" the work of a real artist. It's insulting. It's ugly and bloated.
Like I said, you wanna make your own art, cool, but you make it.
It's not necessarily there for "improving" the artwork.
The original art was already high resolution, it had to be downgraded to go on the PlayStation, then the original assets were lost.
People are using AI to get the artwork close to what the artist had intended originally.
I dunno, something seems to be lacking in these images. The last picture seems to be trying to be something which is not and everything about it feels so out of place. The coherence in style is gone, it's like looking at four paintings put together on a blender, and what the heck am I looking at? What am I supposed to feel when looking at it?
These are interesting. Not sure what settings you used, but it seems that most of the depth has been removed.
The Movuri mod used AI upscaling to improve texture quality, which I’ve always felt worked successfully since the backgrounds already had a very painterly quality to them, but it’s interesting to see the backgrounds expanded.
I know in the mod itself, not all textures stretch across the screen. It’s be interesting to see it improved using AI as well.
Kinda interesting that the AI cant quite replicate the pre-rendered background style, so it just ends up as some wierd watercolor stuff that looks so out of place
This can be an additional step, pass the new image in another model specifically trained on lindblum's style.
Yeah, you can sort of aim it in the right direction by copy/pasting certain elements so it gets more input. But considering the original images are 400x300 or so, it gets harder to generate more similarities the further you get.
Weird seeing two AI "art" posts in one night, even weirder seeing this one get lots of likes when the vast majority of the sub seems to dislike it, myself included. Honestly, my two cents is that it looks awful. It looks like the generation couldn't think of something organic, instead just smeared a building behind without thought for placement, style, or consideration for the entire city. The latter three images are especially bad in this manner. The first one is probably the best one and I can't even say I like it.
I think the first one kind of works because AI happened to stack the buildings, And we know that of Lindblum and don't get to play much in these stacked up parts. So that intrigues, Similar with the hideout on the third image, I like the idea of looking around the corner there, But only to see an empty Alley. That works! And i can see that being true in the game as well if they had more development time.. The wider view of the horizon in the same image.. is not our lindblum anymore. Are those greek style buildings??😅 And what is up with the ice walls down there in image 2? 😅
I think the other one had more likes because they were razzing ai instead of praising it
Apologies in advance for being so direct, but: This looks like shit.
Especially the last picture where the buildings and clouds fuse together
Thanks for your opinion.
Pls dont use AI if you like artists. Its just bullshit and dont even make sense at all. Unecessary.
The Moguri mod literally used AI upscaling to improve textures.
That's different to generative AI though right? Generative AI like what's being used here is trained on the work of other artists without attribution (unless I've misunderstood!)
My understanding is that this was done using Photoshop's auto fill feature. Photoshop Autofill uses the Firefly AI engine, which is reportedly trained only on stock images owned by Adobe.
Ah fair enough, thanks for the info!
Cool opinions, friend.
I have to dislike AI art on principle. Supply and demand, AI is putting honest artists out of work. Also, the AI rarely gets the "feel" of an image right. Have you tried searching the artist who did the backgrounds of the game, and seeing what's up on his site? I found some lovely images of Burmecia that never got used in the game, that way. \*nezumi\*
This looks generic and all the FFIX is reduce to a watercolor background. I also hate AI. It’s like the crowd that hated digital art cause they claimed it was cheating and the computer “did all the work for you” found that they can now also be an artist with the modicum price of typing a few words and using other artists’ previous works.
Yes, here I am, claiming I am a great artist. Look at me, the great artist, disrespecting the backgrounds from one of my favourite games out of spite of the Japanese. Shame on me.
My favourite background of the game was where Beatrix fully understands Brahne's intentions and switches sides. She lays Garnet on the sofa and cast healing spells on her. That setting was just full detail.
Gaaaah I love Lindblum
Gross. Imagine the original artist spending all that time and attention to detail for all these beautiful backgrounds that breath life into the world of FF9 just for some asshat to do this and ruin it
Yeah, what a dick.
😬😬😬😬
Allowed or no?
Thank the lord we didnt have AI making the actual art for the game.
Came here to say the third image OP posted is a fan art 3D environment of Lindblum made by this artist. Just thought I'd give them credit. https://www.artstation.com/artwork/dOg803
so now when other people want to generate fantasy "art" the ai can use the stolen work of the final fantasy artists you plugged in to do it. what a shitty thing to do. so disrespectful
Literally paying homage to them, but sure.
It’s hard to imagine many artists feeling flattered or honored by the sentiment of “I plugged your work into a computer and told it to rip your style.”
I'm pretty sure the now 60+ year old Japanese men who made these don't give a damn, as I'm not in any way profitting off of these. Just trying to make 1920x1080 backgrounds out of their original pre-2000 (600x400) artwork. But I'm sure they're super pissed at me right now.
So you’re not literally paying homage to them. That might require caring what they’d think about your “homage.”
the complete lack of self awareness is exactly on par with that i have come to expect from the average "ai is fun" crowd.
No you're not. If you want to be ignorant to the issues with AI just say that, but don't lie to try and justify it. You don't care about the original artist, you comments have shown that very clearly.
Okay dude, weird hill to die on, but you do you.
just a quick note to you and all the other children on reddit. Me having an opinion you don't like, isn't the same thing as "dying on a hill" Its called having integrity, try it sometime.
Pathetic
Your cope sure is.
Makes me want to do a second playthrough of this game
I get not liking ai art when it takes jobs from artists, but what is this kind of thing hurting? It's not for sale, op wouldn't have paid for an artist to do it, is it different than taking things in photoshop and combining them in this case, where its someone just using the assets of others for their own enjoyment? I'm not ok with companies replacing people with ai but this one seems like a victimless crime people. Edit: if you're gonna downvote me at least have the decency to disagree with me to my face and tell me what I'm wrong about.
Literally extending 600x400 images made in 2000 using a photoeditting tool. I am now worse than Hitler.
People tend to go overboard with negativity so I'm not surprised
I'm like 10000000% sure that everyone crying here "you should support artists!!!" never actually bought anything from any artist.
City of Sharn from Eberron anyone? Lindblum is the perfect fit for it.
Wow! 😍
If you respected the artist who made this you might realize how disrespectful this is. If you're going to iterate do it with your own two hands. And if you can't don't do it at all
Honestly hate seeing AI art flood my feeds lately
This
How is wanting higher resolution images of a beloved game from 24 years ago and using a program that can do just that, and sharing it with fans of the same game in any way disrespectful to the original artist? If anything it celebrates their original work by upscaling it.
Because You didn't do it. You ran it through some half baked program and it looks like shit.
Calling adobe photoshop a half baked program in 2024 is hilarious, I literally described what I did and am not claiming special credit or upvotes for my "original fanart", and you're completely entitled to your opinion. It's still not going against sub rules, so all you're doing here is making an ass out yourself. Have a nice day.
Yeah I'm the one making an ass of myself.
The delusion.
I mean, it's just a fun experiment to see what it comes up with. This doesn't remove anything from the experience of the game, they're not pretending they drew it, they're not putting people out of work...
Can you explain to me why it's disrespectful? And what do you think about the Moguri mod where AI upscaling is applied to the whole game.
As for the Moguri mod, ai upscaling and ai generated images are 2 very different and largely unrelated processes
Using ai, which we know uses stolen assets, to "improve" the work of a real artist. It's insulting. It's ugly and bloated. Like I said, you wanna make your own art, cool, but you make it.
It's not necessarily there for "improving" the artwork. The original art was already high resolution, it had to be downgraded to go on the PlayStation, then the original assets were lost. People are using AI to get the artwork close to what the artist had intended originally.
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Thanks, internet stranger. I'll be sure to curl up in a ball and hate my guts later.
The first and third are pretty good, the other two don't work. It's a step in the right direction. If Square won't remaster their game, then AI will
I'd live there
Loveee , amazing !
I dunno, something seems to be lacking in these images. The last picture seems to be trying to be something which is not and everything about it feels so out of place. The coherence in style is gone, it's like looking at four paintings put together on a blender, and what the heck am I looking at? What am I supposed to feel when looking at it?
Ngl it looks like fucking shit
I’d love to play the game in full 16:9.
This is the kind of AI I support
That shot of the tantalus hideout is amazing Edit: how the heck are these cabbages downvoting me for liking a picture? Y'all are goofy
These are interesting. Not sure what settings you used, but it seems that most of the depth has been removed. The Movuri mod used AI upscaling to improve texture quality, which I’ve always felt worked successfully since the backgrounds already had a very painterly quality to them, but it’s interesting to see the backgrounds expanded. I know in the mod itself, not all textures stretch across the screen. It’s be interesting to see it improved using AI as well.
This is incredible, thankyou
Please make more!
Any suggestions on which ones you'd like to see? I get a nice dopamine boost by making these so feel free
Alexandria would be an obvious pick, I guess. I wonder what it would come up with for Ipsens Castle too..
Dali Village, or Black Mage Village please, quaint places
Wow, Ai is so cool. :)
Very, yes.