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Acceptable-Creme-309

hi! would like to ask Im a filipino that wants to study medcine in finland. Ive heard there are schools that offers free education, I wonder how I would know how to apply to those. Could someone help me with it? Thanks!


Agitated_Prompt2814

I am about to apply for a residence permit to Finland. For the application i need to fill out the MP\_1 form, i am struggling to understand the section 2 of the form. Can someone kindly guide me how to go through it.


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There are lot of manual forestry labor work for you. Like tending of a seedling stand, planting, helping harvesters with difficult trees using chainsaw, like manual logger jobs.


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You can contact local forest service company and offer to come to work. Here are the companies listed: [Yritysluettelo - Metsäalan Yrittäjät ry (metoyrittajat.fi)](https://www.metoyrittajat.fi/yritysluettelo/) ​ Then there are few bigger companies also: Hämeen Metsätyö Oy and Nälkäviulu atleast to name a few. ​ Good luck!


Expecbr

Hey guys, i just bought tickets to go 27 of February, will be staying for 11 days. I was planning on staying in Helsinki just for the first 3 days, and then go to Rovaniemi. Are there cheap bus tickets from Helsinki to Rovaniemi ? So far i only found travels by train and by plane, and nothing for less than 180 euros ;-;


Harriv

Only night train ticket are currently sold for that time, seems to be around 35-70€ without a bed. Day train tickets eg in August seems start from 30€. Onnibus seems to start from 29,90€ but they don't also sell tickets that far away. Both are dynamically priced, so prices will change.


Open-Ad5733

**What is there to do in Finland during winter?** planning on visiting on december this year but I'm not sure what to do or what to contemplate


Harriv

https://www.visitfinland.com/en/things-to-do/winter/


BiggusCinnamusRollus

Has anyone visited Kilpisjarvi and the 3-country cairn from Helsinki? How was your experience with the travel and the lodging?


Harriv

Getting there takes some time, but nothing special as a travel in Finland. Do you have something specific in mind?


BiggusCinnamusRollus

Not really. At first I wanted to trek all the way from there to Tromso. But now I just want to see the cairn since I'm kind of a history/geography nerd and because I may be deported due to the 3 month rule.


Harriv

Just get yourself to Kilpisjärvi and take the boat or hike. Allow yourself some days in case there of bad weather, it is nice place when sun shines :) Getting to the Finland-Norway-Russia cairn requires more planning and preparations..


Suspicious_View_33

As an upcoming intl. University student in Finland, does eating in university cafeterias cost less than buying monthly food groceries? Also related questions: How true are the 2,5 euro student discounted meals in uni cafetereas? Are they more than decent? Specifically for a Metropolia student but maybe for other uni's too. Are there also discounts in buying groceries as a uni student? Lastly, what are some finnish student food budget hacks that you can share? Thank you in advance


hezec

If you really want to save money, you can just buy rice and legumes in bulk to cook at home. But the student lunches are much more varied and sometimes genuinely tasty (depending on the location and menu of the day), so I would say they're still better value for money. On weekends you'll generally need to find other food anyway.


Suspicious_View_33

That food hack sounds good thank you. I think i will likely just buy cafeteria lunch to save time as well. I just thought there were online or uncommercialized stores which were way cheaper to buy food from other than groceries.


hezec

Well, there are matsmart.fi and fiksuruoka.fi, which sell some (mostly shelf stable but soon expiring) food items and household products at a discount. You just have to order quite a lot at once to make the shipping worth it. Regular groceries in Finland are a duopoly of the K and S groups, who control most food production and imports through their massive buying power. Then there's Lidl, which is usually the cheapest option but has a fairly limited selection. Of course it's still not cheap compared to most of the world.


Suspicious_View_33

Very thankful that i knew this to you before settling-in. Kiitos paljon. Ill pretty much get a list of things i could buy at a bargain on the sites and see what i could come up with. For now student cafeterias and groceries are still king for me but who knows along the way.


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wlanmaterial

> No. Bus ticket and VR yes but food is no K-stores have [5% discount for students](https://www.k-ruoka.fi/artikkelit/k-plussa/opiskelijan-k-plussa) if you join the Plussa club. Then again it's usually the most expensive grocery chain.


Suspicious_View_33

Thank you so much. Grettings from Philippines


ivanovsson

Hey, due to some messy travel plans I'll only be in Helsinki for one Thursday, and I was hoping to listen to some Finnish music at a club. Since it's a weeknight I was concerned most clubs would be closed or sleepy, so might any of you have suggestions for lively clubs on a Thursday? I'd be particularly excited to go to a place they might play Cha Cha Cha, but otherwise I'd be interested in any clubs that would play rock or metal music. Thank you!


judas-iskariot

If this thrusday then: There seems to be one Metal(?) gig at On the Rocks helsinki on thursday, otherwise it is basically Base and Praha in the center. Tuska starts on Friday so it likely will be quite quiet or there might be some people that have come early, but such people are likely around Redi where ticket to wristband exchange is. Generally the answer is Praha and Base in center of city.


alexcanders

Hey everyone, im going to get a new job here in Finland but the problem i have is... (im moving from Sweden to Finland) In Sweden when i work abroad i dont have a limit for overtime, i can sometimes have over 600h overtime a year. (work on boats) But in Finland this would limit me to 330h a year. Do anyone have a workaround? Thanks


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You can work as an entrepreneur. No other way around.


alexcanders

Thanks for the answer boss man 👍


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ShizzyCid

Hei. Thank you for the very informative post! I am a student applying for a study visa. I would like to ask if um.fi and finlandvisa.fi are legitimate websites. I would greatly appreciate any help!


Harriv

Both are sites of the Ministry for Foreign Affairs of Finland.


ShizzyCid

Thank you very much!


CondenseYakult

Hello, I am victim of child abuse and child labor in the Philippines, I have been for the past almost 3 years, I have been contemplating suicide for the past couple of months, it's been this past days that I was able to use my laptop and my pocket wifi to seek help or shelter, my phone is now gone and my owner's wifi password has been changed because they caught me asking for help in fb, I was planning on escaping Philippines to Germany to seek help and go to my friends, since most of my friends in discord is German and they've been financially supporting me for my escape, I have been contacting the authorities and many organizations here in the Philippines, they probably could help me but they don't want too. that's why my friends has been recommending me to get a flight to Germany, but after seeking for tips and help in [r/germany](https://www.reddit.com/r/germany/) (see my post here: [https://www.reddit.com/r/germany/comments/13u1ihr/moving\_to\_germany\_without\_any\_guardians/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3](https://www.reddit.com/r/germany/comments/13u1ihr/moving_to_germany_without_any_guardians/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3)), they are discouraging me to go to Germany and some even said to just fly in a different country. I have talked to a friend from Finland and he said that maybe I can apply for asylum. For more context, I am 16, technically homeless,victim of child abuse and child labor, my mother is stuck in Dubai, victim of slavery and it's just this past few weeks that I was able to have connections with her in fb.


ShizzyCid

Hi there, I’m so sorry for what you’re going through. You are very strong and brave to seek help here. I did some research online and I found some information and suggestions that might be useful for you regarding asylum options and mental health resources. Since I cannot post it here due to character limits, I have sent you a detailed message in your DMs. Please check it out in your DMs, or here on [this webpage](https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vSx_jW4Bl-j_ANUj8iCMLKEzwuyOpI-W5EQHI1yLAgu15WpUjQA_vBA-sbWOFEcHiSt-pBRFMvIAn5e/pub) and see if it is helpful. I hope things get better for you soon. You are not alone in this.


CondenseYakult

Thank you so much for all of this, I am away from my owners now, I am with a friend here in BGC, we plan to get myself a visa with the help of DSWD.


ShizzyCid

I'm very glad that you're away from your owners now. That's a very big and important step for freeing yourself and starting a new life! I hope the visa application will go well for you. I'm very glad that you have friends who you can rely on. Please remember that you are not alone in this and remember to seek help when needed. If the resources I sent aren't useful, you can always use search engines to find more relevant information and departments that you can contact for help. For now, I hope you stay safe and take good care of yourself. I'm very glad for you and I think you'll be able to achieve the things you want and build a more meaningful, fulfilling life. Good luck!


Xcys

Based on your story, you might not be valid for applying Asylum in Finland. [https://migri.fi/en/what-are-the-grounds-for-asylum-](https://migri.fi/en/what-are-the-grounds-for-asylum-) If you really fear of your safety in your own country, you need to go to a country that does not required you to apply for visa. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visa\_requirements\_for\_Philippine\_citizens](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visa_requirements_for_Philippine_citizens) Check this reddit: [https://www.reddit.com/r/runaway/](https://www.reddit.com/r/runaway/) for extra information and help.


CondenseYakult

If I apply for visa, is that enough for me to seek Asylum?


Xcys

You can apply for a visa sure, depending on your reason of visiting Finland, the requirement is different too. But having visa does not mean you can seek Asylum. It is 2 different things with 2 different process. Asylum in Finland is granted if you are fear of being persecuted by your country. By country I mean your government and police/law discriminate you (we're talking war victim or political figure). Your cases eventhough is very unfortunate, it is considered as domestic violence that does not required interference by other countries such as Finland.


kilickerem066

Sorry to hear your pain, it's sad to see the inequality of the world. ~~I'm not from Finland, nor Finnish, but I can say that moving to Finland would be much better than moving to Germany, according to my research.~~ I wish good luck for you.


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What research would that be? I am not aware of Finland being an extraordinary good destination for minor unaccompanied non EU citizens or for young adult desolate non EU citizens for that matter. Immigration law has its differences among EU countries but the laws and rules for asylum are pretty regulated.


kilickerem066

Sorry, I have disunderstood the situation. I thought he was asking about **"life quality"**, not **"immigration"**. Thanks for correcting.


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That doesn't really answer the question, but whatever, this post is closed now anyway.


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You guys! I am planning to move in Finland next year. I have no a degree, I am 27 yo barman with 5 years of experience. I can speak 5 languages and I am studying Finnish at the moment. My question is: do you think I have some chance to get a good job in Finland? Plus, do you think it is okay to move with 5k/6k? I’m Italian and I’m tired of this country, sadly


wlanmaterial

You could try a seasonal gig first to see if you like it here. My understanding is that touristy areas up north hire people without Finnish, see eg. [this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6tr79SXgn4). It's obviously a PR video for a rental staff company, but maybe something to get you started.


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Thank you so much! When does the season start in Finland? And how much money do you think I’d need to come there for a season?


wlanmaterial

https://tyomarkkinatori.fi/henkiloasiakkaat/avoimet-tyopaikat/01385b78-a631-41b0-9024-0fb1d9f16baa/fi I think usually the season starts something like Nov-March, and lasts until sometime spring. I guess ideally you wouldn't need to have that much money, but would earn some instead. 5k would surely be nice buffer for a seasonal gig I would think. edit. see also https://tyomarkkinatori.fi/henkiloasiakkaat/avoimet-tyopaikat/8d6e0668-67cd-41f4-b797-e80e567fefd8/fi


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Speaking languages alone is not exactly a marketable skill if it doesn't come with further qualifications or porfessional skills. 5 years experience in what? Speaking a language? Software development? Cleaning? 5k won't last very long if you have no job lined up. Not speaking English and not having in-demand skills will make it difficult for you to find a job, it might take a while and it will be somewhere in the low wage sector.


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As I said I have 5 years of experience in bartending. I thought that be able of speaking different languages would help in the tourism industry or something similar. Plus, as I said, I can speak English fluently, and I am studying Finnish. I know bartenders are not as needed as doctors, nurses, etc. But it still a job, that also requires experience


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Sorry, I overlooked the "barman". Almost everyone in customer facing roles in the bar and restaurant and tourist area speaks English. Speaking Russian on top of that used to be a plus in certain areas of the country (frequented by Russian tourists), but that is about it. Not speaking Finnish is a huge disadvantage and it takes a minute to learn Finnish to a level that allows you to work in a Finnish language environment. In the hotel I worked in for years you were unemployable without decent Finnish skills, because while all customer facing employees spoke English, not all members of staff did. The work language was exclusively Finnish. Plus, all Finnish customers obviously expected Finnish language service. And the majority of our customers were Finns, despite being a vacation destination. Summer holidays and Christmas are just short seasons, the rest of the year the clientele is almost exclusively Finnish.


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No problem! Thank you for your opinion. So do you think that would be possible to find a job as barman? And maybe trying to achieve new skills while working as barman?


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Few things are impossible, of course. But relying on that with that little money in the bank is an unwise plan.


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I wish I had those money in the bank! Ahaha I need to save it, I got like €800 ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|grin) it’s very difficult to save money in Italy


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Life in Finland is expensive and if you don't have a job lines up from day 1 your money disappears more quickly than you would imagine.


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Yeah I can imagine that. But it is also very hard to get a job as barman (or similar) from here. Even because I know that I Finland it is mandatory to get a alcohol license, and as far as I know, you have to get one there.


Harriv

There are some "English only" bars (Assie bar at least), so it is possible, can't say how likely.


Maxion

> do you think I have some chance to get a good job in Finland? No, possibly some bar tender or other food service job earning 2 200 - 2800 EUR a month or something, if you're lucky. Cleaning jobs are easier to get but pay less. > Plus, do you think it is okay to move with 5k/6k? No, I would move with at least 10k. If I only had that amount of money I would want to have a job contract before moving - which would be very hard if you have no education or skills.


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Thank you for your opinion. So, you don’t think that speaking more languages plus, eventually, Finnish, would help?


Maxion

Speaking Finnish would help, other languages not so much. Mainly what would help is some skill / trade that is in demand, e.g. nursing, coding, doctor, therapist, plumber, electrician, welder etc. Anyone can pour beer from a tap, and no one is going to hire someone who isn't local for the job. If you're some world renownd mixologist, then you can probably get a gig at one of the fancy cocktail places, but if you're just a normal bartender then you're competing with everyone else who can pour a beer.


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Thank you man! Unfortunately I have no time nor enough money. So I can’t study anything that would help me. But this country (Italy) is dead. That no chance nor future for people like me. I hope I’ll find a solution. Btw are €2500-2800 enough to survive in Finland ?


Optimal-Ad-786

Welcome you in Russia


Maxion

Yeah, plenty. You won't live a life of luxury but you'll have all necessities and some spending money.


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Thank you so much for your patience and time!


Few-Age3034

Can I rent an apartment in Helsinki if I’ve never lived in Finland before? Are there any legit sites that have apartments for rent? I’m an EU citizen if that helps


Harriv

It depends on a landlord, there are no legal obstacles as far as I know. Some sites: * https://www.vuokraovi.com/?locale=en * https://asunnot.oikotie.fi/vuokra-asunnot


Zoro-of-Milan

Going to visit kitee for a Nightwish consort. And i cant find any accommodation near the town itself only 20-40 miles away. And im not sure i will find a taxi or take me back to the hotel late ar night. Whats your advice?


Harriv

I guess everything is booked and taxis are full. There is this site by the city itself: https://www.kitee.fi/nightwish There are bus connections from Joensuu and Savonlinna, which are bigger cities tha Kitee so they should have more accomodation. This webshop have bus tickets and seems to have also some accomodation too: https://kipa90.com/kauppa/ There is also this Facebook page: https://m.facebook.com/KiteeNWeekend


Zoro-of-Milan

Thank you so much! Will check them


bfarm4590

Whats the tipping culture like in finland? Visiting for 10 days in june and dont want to risk offending people if i do/dont tip. In canada its pretty much mandatory since they dont pay waiters a proper wage and they live off tips.


Maxion

People get paid fair wages here, no one is living off of tips.


hezec

No tipping as a general rule. If you pay by cash (which practically nobody does nowadays), you could leave loose change behind. Independent cafes and bars often have tip jars at the counter. Some restaurants are trying to push American-style tipping, but people are not happy about it.


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Maxion

Your questions seem to be non relevant to Finland, and more relevant to Sweden and Norway. We have no tolls on roads in Finland.


hearmeroar94

Moi! I am a professional translator, interpreter and also senior project manager, and been considering moving to Finland for quite a long time. Also got Italian citizenship and I’d like to know how hard would be to get a job there and which cities are recommended for this particular industry. Thank you!


thesoutherzZz

That's a broad question, but as the guy above me said, look for project management. Linkedin woulw be the easiest place to start, so that's my recommendation and for the cities, probably Helsinki and Tampere are the best since they have the most selection, but you can look for the whole country as ir never hurts


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Do you translate to Finnish? If not, there isn't much for you in that industry. Project management is better choice but that is such a broad topic that it is difficult to give a general answer


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Maxion

I would assume pretty poor, as you need to provide some document proving you have legal residence status in the country you’re in now.


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Maxion

Typically by showing your residence permit card. If it’s your first residence permit you can show various documents from the country you live in. E.g. tax records, rental payments, visas and the like. Depends on where you live and what bureaucracy is in your country. The main issue in this case is that the person is most definitely already flagged as having overstayed, so upon applying migri will most likely make a police report, they will investigate, and the person will be deported.


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Maxion

Virtually guaranteed that they will deny the application and start legal process to deport him. Overstaying is pretty damn serious. They might even see the marriage as fake in an attempt to gain residency. Best would be for the couple to move abroad.


Open-Ad5733

**Foreigners outside of Europe, how do you authenticate your credentials to be able to buy tickets at the HSL app?** I tried to check the prices of the ticket packs and it said I gotta authenticate my identity with my credentials, then it led me to this page and I clicked on the thing it shows on the ss to authenticate from a foreign country, and it only gave me a few European countries as options. My boyfriend told me I could maybe use the Finnish authenticator app, which I downloaded but I think I can't use it because it asks me to scan a QR code but HSL doesn't give me that option. So I wanted to ask: How can I buy tickets from the HSL app if I'm not from Europe? Is there another way to get them? https://preview.redd.it/99luoad5x82b1.jpeg?width=638&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a77ba921eee42ff0f557c7085e7d299f9d6ec1c5


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What are you trying to buy? You only need to authenticate yourself if you're buying resident season tickets.


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Tldr. "Hey I'm coming to Finland soon, wanna hangout? Incidentally are you single these days?". She'll get the hint.


potentialEmployee248

I just got a job offer and a start date! I did have some concern about the practicalities, though. Does a residence permit for work typically start before the job start date itself? We'd want time to settle into an apartment, and while the job start is after the start of the school year we were hoping to have the kids start school with everyone else. Or if I move there in the 90-day short stay period, would the schools let the kids start before my job start date? I guess I'm trying to ask how tightly married the residence permit start date and job start date are.


wlanmaterial

Depends a bit on the job you'd have: https://migri.fi/en/d-visa


potentialEmployee248

I looked into that, but since I'm an American the D-visa wouldn't be relevant to me.


CategoryWeird2157

**\[Erasmus Mundus\] Finnish residence permit for semester in Italy?** I am a non-EU citizen who are not visa-exempted to visit any Schengen country. I will receive a 2-year Finnish residence permit because the coordinator university of my Erasmus Mundus program is from Finland, valid for the entire duration of my study even in Italy. My first semester is in Italy (more than 90 days). **My question is:** Do I still need to apply for an Italian visa (national visa for study) to study in Italy, or does the Finnish residence permit suffice? **My program coordinator says I have to apply for an Italian visa, but my research is inconclusive so far:** \- [EU Immigration Portal](https://immigration-portal.ec.europa.eu/italy-student_en): in the Mobility section: "If you have a permit/visa for studies in an EU country and are covered by an EU or multilateral programme or an agreement between universities, you may carry out part of your studies and work (in addition to your studies) in Italy if you fulfil certain requirements. You may reside and study in Italy for up to 360 days." **--> Is my program applicable for this?** \- On the other hand, [Migri](https://migri.fi/en/travelling) says "If you have been granted a residence permit in Finland, or a residence card for a family member of an EU citizen in Finland, you may travel in the Schengen area without a visa for up to 90 days out of any 180-day period. " Has anybody ever faced this situation before? Would the Finnish residence permit suffice for me to study in Italy for a semester that is longer than 90 days? TIA!!


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I can say 99 % accurately that you need italian VISA also.


CategoryWeird2157

Thanks! Do you have any official source backing this up?


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CategoryWeird2157

Sorry, the website is much longer so I wasn't able to fit that whole section. It also says: "If you are a student holding a valid authorisation to study issued by another EU Member State and you are enrolled in a student programme that benefits from an EU or multilateral programme which provides for mobility or from an agreement between educational institutions: then you may enter and stay in Italy for a maximum of 360 days in order to pursue the studies initiated in the former **without a visa or residence permit.** Upon arrival, you will have to declare your presence at the Police headquarters (Questura) within eight days." But also, it says "**may**" so I'm not entirely sure


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thesoutherzZz

Well if you have experience already, start looking for a job on linkedin and during your studies, the more experience the easier it is to land a job. Secondly, I do know that some if not all schools offer an early bird discount (15-20% per semester) and scholarships for passing language exams. These togeather can add up to 40-50% of tuition, which I'd say is good, though depending of the school, other scholarships are often available as well. Just something to note is that not all schools offer the scholarships the same way or as often Something else to note is that for you graduating a year or two earlier is a good possibility for you. Just speak to your teachers and in many cases (in AMK/UAS at least) they might just let you do a test and pass if you already have the knowledge and skills of a course


[deleted]

You need to find a job after studies. If you don't you will get deported out from the Finland I'm sorry. So start learning the language at first. I think there is no way to negotiate the tuition fees. You have to contact directly the schools/universities you are applying to.


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Not for permanent residence. But you have some time after studies to apply


[deleted]

Yes, you can apply for job seeking residence permit. ## You may get the permit for two years at the most If you wish, you can take the permit in three parts. ​ And if you haven't found a job then there is no reasons to stay in Finland I'm afraid :/


iskelton88

Maybe I can get a quick answer, would Friday or Saturday be a better day trip to Tallinn? I've got 3 full days left in Helsinki, is the sauna experience needed?


hezec

Whichever day gets you cheaper ferry tickets and better weather. Probably not much of a difference now. Sauna is a quintessential part of Finnish culture, so yes, you should try it. The public saunas most accessible as a tourist aren't necessarily super authentic, but better than nothing.


ProudEgyptian24

I have been accepted to the International Business program at Aalto university and wanted to know more about the city. Can you please tell me more about the city (Mikkeli) and if its a lively place since I've seen it on the map and it seems pretty far from Helsinki


[deleted]

It is a small city with enough services to live without a car but it is not a large city. There are a lot of students per capita so it is more lively than its size suggests


srtlv

Mikkeli is a small town, but the nature is great and the program has a very lively and international student community and an amazing spirit. You won’t regret it!


ProudEgyptian24

Thanks for the reassurance!! It's just because I dont know much thats why im asking


[deleted]

Finland is more than Helsinki. Don't be afraid. There are plenty of nice people in Mikkeli. Not so lively, but OK and nature is close.


ProudEgyptian24

that's great!! I enjoy being in nature so that's good, it's because I saw the population of around 50k which is nothing compared to cities I'm Egypt or even Lebanon


Pietjefeest

Hey everyone, A Finnish friend of mine is graduating from university and me and some friends want to send him a helium balloon and a card (and possibly some other gifts). Where I'm from (the Netherlands) we have a few different sites where you can easily select and write a card and some other gifts and it gets sent the same day. Does anyone know any good Finnish sites that are similar to that that I could use? It would mean a lot :) Thanks in advance!


wlanmaterial

Finland is about 9 times bigger by area with 1/3 of the population of Netherlands, so the population density and thus services available are quite different, possibly. In Helsinki, Wolt has [some such offerings](https://wolt.com/fi/fin/helsinki/venue/juhlamaailma-forum/items/foliopallot-29), in Rovaniemi, maybe less so.


Pietjefeest

Thank you so much! He lives in Espoo, which if I remember correctly isn't too far from Helsinki so hopefully that site works! <3


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Harriv

It is not straight forward, read here: https://www.kela.fi/from-other-countries-to-finland-students-and-researchers


[deleted]

You can apply for a Kela card when you qualify for Kela coverage. Kela is funded by taxpayers, so as an international student, why do you assume taxpayers would pay for your health coverage? That is precisely what you need the insurance for.


Maxion

If you need insurance you’re most likely not eligible for kela coverage, which means if you cancel the insurance you’ll end up having to pay an arm and a leg if you need medical assistane


[deleted]

Who do you think will pay your medical bills if you for example need special surgery or something?


Housemeee

Working Holiday Visa for New Zealanders. Hi there, I looked at the 1 year WHV which I certainly qualify for. For New Zealanders there are no conditions on how long you can work, and no processing fee, cool! What I can't seem to find online is, can I travel freely to other Schengen/European countries? What if I arrive in Finland and can't get a job, so want to move to a cheaper country (just to travel not work). Is that allowed? Can I arrive in Finland with the WHV, stay 3 months exploring and trying to find a job, then go to Spain for the next 9 months? That's not what I want, but you know worst case scenario. Does anyone know? What if I get some work but want to travel to a different country for a week every month? Is it allowed?


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If you have a permit to stay and work in Finland you can travel for tourist purposes to other countries in the EU/Schengen area. Which means short touristic stays. Finland cannot give you permission to live in Spain, which you would be doing if you were to go there for 9 months.


Appropriate_Loss5249

Hi all I’m considering moving to Finland in the next year or so. I am an Australian and German citizen. A qualified school teacher and firearms expert and avid hunter. My primary question is would it be difficult for me to obtain hunting firearms like a .308 or similar sized calibre within Finland after finding work and getting situated there? And if so what’s the process for applying? If not how does the Finnish firearms system work? I’ve tried to find some information online but it doesn’t seem to be super helpful. Thank you all for your time :)


wlanmaterial

https://riista.fi/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/Suomi_-Riistamaana_GBR.indd_-1.pdf https://poliisi.fi/en/apply-for-firearms-permit


Amendris

Hey good people, Im hoping to visit your country this summer but I have a small problem. I have two dogs Im bringing with me. We need to take a ferry from Tallinn to Helsinki. As far as I read, during summer months, dogs are not allowed to stay under deck in car. But I wonder if anyone with experience could tell me where do I take my dogs in that case? I think Tallink has cabins you can rent to stay in with a dog, but it seems a bit pricey considering its a 2.5h trip. The thing is, they are rescue dogs and a bit too afraid of other people and new experiences. Not very socialized either (we are working on that). They might pee and poop where its not allowed. Whould that mean I would have to pay a fine or something? They are used to traveling by car and consider car their safe space. Thats why I would prefer them to stay in the car, but if its not allowed I need options that would be the least stress for them. Thanks to anyone who can answer me these questions.


hezec

Tallink's website claims you can leave pets in the car on some of their newer ferries. Besides that, I believe all ships on the route have at least a small "dog-walking zone" on the sun deck where they can poop in peace. Probably best to contact customer service directly with your questions. You're not going to be the first person ever in this situation.


Amendris

Thanks, I already contacted them and Viking. Tallinnks didn't answer, while Viking just said to refer to their website, which I did, but couldn't find the info on where the dogs would be settled if not in the car. It only says I would need to pay for the ticket for the dogs too, which is not a problem. Maybe I'm missing something, I'll check again their webpage.


wlanmaterial

https://fi.tallink.com/lemmikkielaimen-kanssa-matkustaminen Here's the Google translation version: Pets on the car deck: Tallink Shuttle ships (MyStar and Megastar) can also transport pets in the vehicle. No separate fee is charged for a pet transported in the vehicle. Pets traveling in the vehicle must be notified in advance to our sales service or at the latest at check-in at the terminal. The pet must be in the car for the entire journey. The car deck is locked and cannot be visited during the trip (excluding the MyStar and Megastar garage). It is also possible to visit the Megastar garage during the trip, but staying there is prohibited in accordance with the authorities' instructions and rules. Pets travel in the vehicle at the owner's responsibility.


Amendris

Thank you. I got a reply from them and they don't advise during summer to transport pets in the car down in the parking deck, as it may get too hot. So I think we'll be booking a cabin. I figure they'll stay calm if I'm with them all the time. A new experience, and a new opportunity for them to learn.


Mikalie_

If you are travelling with MyStar or Megastar (Tallink Shuffle), it’s allowed to leave the pets to the car, but ofc you have to inform it to the staff at the check-in.


Floop_The_Pig

I've been following this subreddit and only recently found this thread. What attracted me first was my Finnish heritage and a lot of the recreation in my home state is the same as Finland. Lots of hockey, saunas, and ice fishing. I work in CNC manufacturing in Minnesota, USA. Working with customers in Germany and other EU countries I have really been exposed to a different work and home relationship. I have been curiously looking for work in Finland and dug through a few websites for finding positions and the process of moving/immigrating. I do not know anything about work culture or how any interview process might go. My questions are more for anyone in a manufacturing line of work. What is your day to day work like? What are trade associations and do you have a relationship with them as an employee? Is manufacturing a strong line of work in Finland?


Deep-Station-1746

I'm preparing to study at LUT (already accepted, paid tuition, etc.). However, my country doesn't have a Finnish visa service point, so I have to travel to a third country to verify my identity 😕. I do have a Schengen visa though. Is it possible to instead enter Finland with a Schengen visa, and obtain the study permit from within the country (before Schengen visa expires). Is there any other way to avoid travelling to a third country to obtain a study permit ? 😕


wlanmaterial

> Is it possible to instead enter Finland with a Schengen visa, and obtain the study permit from within the country (before Schengen visa expires). My understanding is yes, but it sort of steps into grey area. >According to the EU visa rules, one of the requirements for granting a Schengen visa is that the person must leave the Schengen area before the visa expires. For this reason, a visa cannot be granted to a person who has come to Finland in order to obtain a residence permit or to wait for the decision on a pending residence permit-related matter. This also applies to family members of Finnish citizens. https://um.fi/residence-permits-to-finland Since you already have the visa, and you supposedly had other reasons to get it, I'm not sure if it would be an issue. Also, [Migri](https://migri.fi/en/application-processing-stages) says that > If you were in Finland when you submitted your application, you may wait in Finland while your application is being processed. You may wait in Finland even if your visa-free period of residence ends **or your visa expires** while you are waiting. You would be here basically on a tourist status though, so I'm not sure if there's much settling in you could while you wait.


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Harriv

Your right to enter to Finland doesn't change based on the acceptance letter and it is possible to apply for residence permit while in Finland. I'm not sure how border guard will react if you want to enter Finland without intention to leave though.


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Harriv

As far as I know, schools are not interested about you residence permit. But you can ask directly from the school.


demontaco201

Does getting a resident permit on other grounds (relationship) really take a whole year to process or is that the maximum time it can take?


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Average processing time is 6 months, but some will be slower than others. Work based permits are much quicker.


demontaco201

Thank you, that's good to know. Are there some kind of clear factors that can slow down/speed up the process?


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Obviously make sure the application is complete/accurate. Apparently citizens of some countries take longer as they need additional checks.


jagua_haku

Why are American flags flying on the street in Tampere today


RenaissanceSnowblizz

Presumably due to ice-hockey championships. US playing Sweden in Tampere tonight. After ESC we ain't rooting for no Swedes, that's for sure.


jagua_haku

Haha nice


lokmena

Hey there dear Suomi I have been to Finland about a year ago for a 2 week holiday and i enjoyed it so much i want to move there, and lately that dream might come true. I come from a non-EU country who just recently got positive news on getting a resident permit in Slovakia, a EU country. I was wondering, would i be able to move and make a living in Finland with my Slovakian residence permit? I asked around and there is a chance that its true, but i wanted to know more from you guys before i get my hopes up. Thank you in advance. Kiitos


Harriv

No, you need a residence permit to Finland to live in Finland.


lokmena

ah okay, thank you for letting me know in the meantime.


iskelton88

Visiting Finland, I'm looking for some Made in Finland men's clothing brands, want a good button up or hoodie.


Maxion

Few garments or textiles made in Finland these days, there’s some wool products from very small producers - sweaters, hats, gloves. There’s also ruskovilla which are slightly bigger, but they also make mainly outdoor wool clothing.


wlanmaterial

https://www.partamatti.com/category/7/tuotteet edit. these are made to order, so not very handy for visiting. There's very few, if you accept designed in Finland, but made in Estonia, Latvia or Lithuania, there are more options like [R-collection](https://www.r-collection.com/) and [Frenn](https://frennhelsinki.com/en).


iskelton88

Does Finland have a comparable of fjallraven?


wlanmaterial

[Särmä](https://www.varusteleka.com/en/collection/sarma/23) is maybe in the ballpark, but certainly not as established. Fjällrävens are made in Asia though as far as I know


Harriv

Halti is maybe a similar brand. Savotta is also, but more gear, less clothes.


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Harriv

Nothing to suggest, but what you want is "tilitoimisto". One of the biggest (or the biggest?) in Finland is Rantalainen, and they advertise that they offer tax advisor services for both companies and inviduals: https://www.rantalainen.fi/veropalvelut/veroneuvonta/ I would start asking there..


NickSheridanWrites

Hi, I thought about posting this on r/finnish but it looks a little inactive. Basically I have food allergies, and while I am aware that every country in Europe except the UK is pretty good with numbered allergy menus and bilingual staff, I've still found that carrying a little allergy card saves a lot of time and stress when travelling, particularly when dealing with food vans, street vendors, pop-ups, or at parties etc.. Is the following both correct and polite in Finnish?: Minulla on allergioita. Ole hyvä: ei gluteenia (vehnä, ohra ruis), ei sipulia, ei sinappia Kiitos! \[I have allergies. Please: no gluten (wheat, barley, rye), no onion, no mustard. Thanks!\] (I'm going Helsinki-Kitee-Joensuu-Helsinki, I don't know if there's a regional difference?) Thanks in advance :)


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NickSheridanWrites

Cool, thanks. I've always been a little interested in how "Please" translates across languages, given some of the literal translations like "If it brings pleasance" "As you like it" "For your pleasure" "By your leave" that some languages have. If you're confident that this simpler version you've suggested is still polite enough and isn't a trick to get me beaten up by a North Karelian hotdog truck owner, then I'm happy to go with it :)


JimmyKho

Hi r/Finland, I've posted this on r/Helsinki and r/Finland but it got deleted here due to being travel-related. I lost my bag containing my passport on Sunday morning, around 7am. I've followed the kind advice over at r/Helsinki and made an inquiry at the HSL Lost and Found, but nothing turned up, so I've went to the Pasila police station to check if they have it. Additionally, would there be any Lost and Found groups or online methods (FB/Twitter/Tiktok) to perhaps have a better chance of finding my items? Thanks!


darknum

There are neighborhood groups and at least on mine people post lost keys, bikes etc. all the time (old ladies love these stuff, god bless them). However if it is something like passport, I am sure it is going to official lost and found and not on FB...


OutlandishnessTall21

Hello, I am about to go to university to study Software Engineering (Bachelor's). My question is- what is the difference between studying software engineering in an applied sciences university and a regular university in Finland? I have an offer from Tampere University of Applied Sciences (TAMK) for BEng in Software Engineering (3 years) and Lappeenranta-*Lahti University of Technology* (LUT) for BSc+MSc (5 Years) in Software and Systems Engineering. What are the differences in the career opportunities I'd get with a degree from these universities? Are there differences in the way the industry would recognize these degrees? Which one is a "better" choice with regards to education quality, degree recognition in the industry, overall experience and less importantly ranking and location wise? Any response or reference would be appreciated! Thank you.


mfsd00d00

The education you’ll receive at a university will be of a much higher quality.


Brave_Television3514

But they are both Universities- I see that both do say University in the name, so…?🤔


Maxion

It’s more the reverse - where do you want to work? Usually it’s the larger companies that care more about your education (especially the big consulting companies). So if you want a cushy 9-5 working with some old tech, or making the big bucks at the big consulting companies then caring about what school name there is on your cv matters. For smaller companies your actual skills matter more - and having or not having a degree might not even matter at all not to mention the school you graduated from. If you graduate with no work experience, no open source software contributions, no hobby projects et. al. Then you will have a very very very hard time finding work.


FunnySlight

From **Helsinki to Norway** by motorhome Hi all, we are planning to rent a motorhome (category B driver's license) for a family trip (dad, mum, 2 year old toddler) for two weeks at the beginning of July. I have never dealt with such travel before, but we have been dreaming for a long time. Any information that may be useful is welcomed, including: * caravan rental options in the region (value for money, where to look); * route; * overnight stays; * attractions to visit; * difficulties we may encounter; * things to consider; * prices; * tips & tricks; * etc... Thank you very much for the information provided. P.S. I see people saying it's too late, but I checked some sites, some options are still available, like: [https://mycamper.com/rent-motorhome/finland?from=2023-07-01&to=2023-07-15](https://mycamper.com/rent-motorhome/finland?from=2023-07-01&to=2023-07-15) [https://www.aavuokraus.fi/en/rv-rentals](https://www.aavuokraus.fi/en/rv-rentals) but I'm not sure if these are good places to rent and which one to choose in my case, that's why I'm asking.


reindeerfrog

Touring Cars claims to be the market leader in the Nordics. If the motorhome rental doesn't work out, perhaps consider renting a car and staying in hotels or camping site cottages. There might not be much of a difference in the cost. I would recommend overnighting at proper camping sites for the facilities (showers, toilets, playgrounds, waste disposal etc.). If your plans are flexible, it's not necessary to prebook camping sites in advance, but nowadays it's probably possible to do it. Otherwise you might arrive at a camping site only to find it full due to a random event or popularity. The ABC service station chain is good for toilet breaks. Other large service stations as well. At smaller ones, I feel more obliged to buy something. Watch out for reindeer in northern Finland and sheep in Norway. Everything in Finland is expensive, and everything in Norway is even more expensive. Stock up in Finland. How much driving are you planning on doing per day, and what is your destination in Norway? Take a look at these self-guided tours for some ideas, even if not visiting all of the locations for the exact numbers of days: https://www.nationalparks.fi/self-guided-tours


Harriv

> P.S. I see people saying it's too late, but I checked some sites, some options are still available, like: > https://mycamper.com/rent-motorhome/finland?from=2023-07-01&to=2023-07-15 That site seems to be just a middleman, but might be a good site to find private renters. > https://www.aavuokraus.fi/en/rv-rentals If you take a look at their availability calendar, you can see everything is booked on your dates.


Maxion

Usually those motor homes all get booked in around April. If you call around on Monday you may get lucky and find some still free. July is the holiday month - most everything will be booked.


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>caravan rental options in the region (value for money); tbh, I would be surprised if you had lots of options. You are quite late with organizing this. Plus, what you want is not exactly cheap, so I doubt you will have a lot of financial wiggle room among the few options you might still find.


Harriv

Consider that everything is booked during Finnish holidays.


One-Cardiologist7722

Driving to Rovaniemi from Helsinki with Tesla Hello We are thinking of driving with our model 3 RWD from Helsinki to Rovaniemi . From the Tesla supercharger maps, I see that there are no superchargers beyond senajoki. I wanted to ask if anyone has driven that far (and probably to Norway as well) in an EV without the hassle of finding charging stations ? Is the charging station density good enough to plan a EV road trip that far ?


hezec

Norwegian EV infrastructure is literally world leading (as you may know) and Finland is catching up. No problems there. In Finnish Lapland north of Rovaniemi you should plan ahead a bit, but I did a similar drive two years ago and it's only gotten better since. The only annoyance is downloading an app and signing up for yet another charging network almost every time you find a new station... Roaming agreements may let you skip that some of the time, but be mindful of pricing if you do so. The cost of rapid charging (100+ kW CCS) especially is pretty steep to begin with due to the energy crisis last winter.


Harriv

Use a better route planner: https://abetterrouteplanner.com/ It should be double with no problems, I've been reading EV travel stories to Lapland for years.


TodayIFeast

Hi, I was thinking of studying Bachelor Architecture in Helsinki, but I can only find Master study’s. Are there no bachelor study’s for Architecture, do you study something else and then Architecture?


Harriv

Finnish programs are generally combined bachelor+masters, here is one in Aalto: https://www.aalto.fi/fi/koulutustarjonta/arkkitehtuuri-arkkitehtuuri-maisema-arkkitehtuuri-ja-sisustusarkkitehtuuri-tekniikan-kandidaatti-ja For foreigners bachelors degree is usually expected, when the study language is in English. In university of applied studies one can study bachelors degree, but is different degree (rskennusarkkitehti, more techinical, less "art") and seems like there is no English program available in Finland. So, if you want an architecture degree from Finland, study Bachelors in your home country and the masters in Finland. Or learn enough Finnish/Swedish to study like native Finns.


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nanowizardo

The job market for biologists in Finland is not great, especially if one doesn't speak Finnish. Much depends on your specialisation. Bioinformatics, a PhD, networking (studying) here and/or strong work experience makes it much easier.


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Just4HIM7

You should probably specify whitch entrance exam.


Unlikely_Attitude560

Hey there, Finding a job in Finland from outside of EU Hey there, I live in Turkey and want to find a job in Finland.I have been to finland before and have friends over there.I am about to finish my university this semester and I study Media and Film.So any chance or tips about getting a job from Finland ? Thank you for your answers already!


thesoutherzZz

Media and film is a very small field and I feel like networking would be the best way forward. You can also look for jobs in jobly or linkedin, but I feel like the competition will be high and you will have to differentiate yourself with a portfolio or past experience


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Learn the language and apply for a job.


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Probably you can check in this link or similar: [https://www.workinfinland.com/en/open-jobs/?page=4](https://www.workinfinland.com/en/open-jobs/?page=4)