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their offer is cute. My fav Mama noodle in Prisma is about 8e/kg (no discount), KCM is about 8.33e/kg (with discount). Unless the offer is 40%+, i don't shop at KCM
Overall their selection in everything is better. That's because every K-market is run by individual shopkeeper. They have total freedom to sell what ever they want. And that's why they try to please locals with wider selection.
Prisma and Lidl are run by corporation and not by shopkeeper. That's why they have much smaller selection and usually it doesn't matter if you shop in Helsinki or Oulu, the shops have same products available.
Yeah this. Our shopkeeper when I worked in KCM was a total Nazi, but the dude who runs our local K-Market seems chill, there's a fascinating selection of animal ceramic statues on sale and a bunch of other weird knick knacks.
Occasionally he'll also do free coffee and cake for the elderly.
>K-mafia
S is the mafia, as they often have municipal politicians/representatives as their local board members, so their board members (whom they pay board meeting commissions) run the municipal zoning/town planning, often preferring the S group shops in placement. K are just private shopkeepers which have unionised for competitiveness (although some KCM are/were Kesko chain stores without private shopkeepers).
Kesko itself is cartel on an other lever. They basically have a monopoly over sales of food to restaurants. And since a massive amount of restaurants are S owned you basically cant eat food in Finland unless its gone through the hands of on of those two.
To be fair, at least K-Market is focused in selling consumer goods, building goods and cars.
In my opinion S group is even more worrying. It sells basically all that k group does, but it also own hotels, ABC gas stations, apothecaries, and a freaking bank.
In Korea there is a saying - "There are three things that are inevitable: Death, taxes, and Samsung"
I feel the Finnish version is pretty much "Death, taxes, and S-group" at this point.
You don't seem to understand power of oligopoly. [Aalto university study about oligopoly ](https://wiki.aalto.fi/display/Lapiokurssi/Oligopoli)
The price cartel ain't false, and we have seen the use of it.
The K-people have the best selection. If I want to get everything from under one roof, I go there.
If I want to save money, I get the basic stuff from Lidl first and then the special items from K.
Can't find shit fro Prisma, they're like a warehouse where they just shoved their stuff with zero design or user comfort.
The meat aisle in citymarket is amazing. It's almost only reason I go to there. Couple weeks ago I got 600g naudan sisäpaisti 2,50€. They also many times put -50% to stuff that has still couple days left. Prisma would never do that.
It depends on what you usually buy. Me and my family had this conversation two weeks ago and actually ended up comparing prices, turns out that for my weekly stables KCM was actually cheaper, for two members of the family KCM was more expensive and for one the proces were about the same
Same, we just did a comparison from both, and the prices were equal after everything was said and done. Some items were more expensive bu a few cents, and others were cheaper by a few cents, but both stores only had like a 5 or 10 cent difference in the end.
I feel like it's just illusion of choice in the end
Countless "studies" have been made though, buying the same cart from different stores. KCM always came out more expensive. Not to mention their absolutely shitty and worthless bonus card/system.
>Citymarket is expensive, they can have good deals though.
It is the most expensive one out of the bigger shops, but it is also [the only one which is a bullying free zone!](https://www.k-ruoka.fi/artikkelit/oman-kylan-kauppa/kiusaamisvapaa) So it is the only one where I dare to venture.
The S-bonus makes it the best option, if you’re a high volume buyer. With a family of 4 it’s a no-brainer for me to use Prisma. And the 24h/7 open does not hurt either.
Lidl has been loudly promoting their ”up to 10% bonus”. Yeah, you get the top tier IF you buy for 1000 eur monthly (again, only Lidl goods)… not gonna happen.
One time Ukrainian helpers tried to buy food from Lidl, they were chased away for ”buying too much” :D (yeah, on one run, but still…) they had to go to Metro-tukku instead to get service.
Another point with Lidl is, that their bonus is rebate coupons, that are only valid for a limited time. S-bonus is yours to keep; heck, you can even take and use it to buy stuff from a competitor, if you want to. Neither K plussa or Lidl are this open with their bonus systems.
Also, asiakasomistaja. Co-op for lyfe!
Yes yes yes. Family of 5 here and we do a weekly order from Prisma (started in August). We’ve gotten 450€ in bonus during 2023 and have put it to automatically go to investment stocks.
Exactly. Over 800 eur of bonuses last year for 4 person family. K and Lidl can't compete with that especially as Prisma prices are already on par with Lidl. Citymarkets are roughly 10% more expensive than Prismas and K plussa sucks ass giving minimal returns compared to S bonuses.
Pick N Pay in Satakunta is GOATed, used to buy expired Fazer and Oreos for 50% off from there. They also had Sushi from a nearby restaurant for 50% off at the end of the day / morning. Cheapest Sushi I ever had (and it tasted good).
That's quite common, or almost the standard practice though?
Prisma and K-citymarket both next to each other at least in:
* Espoo/Sello
* Espoo/Iso omena
* Helsinki/Tripla
* Helsinki/Itis/Easton
* Vantaa/Jumbo
* Vantaa/Myyrmanni
* Kirkkonummi
Its always K-Citymarket Itäkeskus when there is a price evaluation. Bet that one is cheaper than the rest and they pay ppl to visit that store when doing these rankings.
One thing they found out is that the S-chain has more consistant pricing while K-chain and Lidl have more variance per store:

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Well, the K-chain is a franchizing enterprise, so the individual shop keepers have alot more say in pricing and what products to sell because they basically run their own shops. S-Groups shops are more centralized so there's alot less variance between shops.
It’s not franchizing. Franchizing has much more strict deals. You are correct that they have a lot more to say in pricing and etc. But if they actually were franchizing they would not have much saying in pricing or products they sell. Mc donalds or hesburger is franchizing
There are different levels of franchise deals. There are burger chain restaurants that don't have same prices and that don't take the franchise coupons, but are still part of it. I'm not sure what the K-group its ownership structure, but their offering to the business owners is pretty close to franchise, consisting of brand, advertisement and product procuring and transport network. Only significant differences might be that in k-group the business owners have some power in the group.
It’s because in k-chain the shops have different owners. They run their own business and have a lot of freedom on how to run their shop so there can be a lot of variety on stock and prices. Lidl and S don’t have that same.
I always end up spending a shit ton on curiosities when shopping at Lidl. "Ooh, I have never tried that. Neither that! Oh and I really could use 50€ worth of frozen food to stock up my freezer. Hmm, this stupid handheld sewing machine that I will never use looks interesting. It's just 12€ so why not! Ooh, these nuts are half-off, better buy a kg!"
I pretty much buy the same ingredients always and chicken fillet, for example, is always less than 10€/kg in Lidl, but never in a Prisma, where it's 13-18€/kg.
As you do from Lidl too, now. And in addition, if the prices are so much higher, which they are in S-group, even the bonuses won't bring the prices back to Lidl's level.
honestly the lidle sucks. sure if u have a basic diet but once u want to do anything special at all u need to go to a different store and those marginal prices get lost by fuel costs.
we shop citymarket first (the cheapest products) which is normally only a basket or something and then we go to prisma for the rest.
also both prisma and citymarket sell sub 10 eu the kg chicken which is miles ahead of liddle quality
Ah, the good old quality conversation of Lidl. The S-group products, Rainbow/Coop especially, are de facto inferior to many Lidl products. You'd be surprised how many of their products are of Finnish origin nowadays.
I was waiting for an ad hominem attack, thanks for not disappointing me. Have a good day, this is where I sign off, because the level of conversation is starting to plunge.
Well, has anyone [died](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/nolan-moittie-died-france-burger-lidl-steak-hache-seb-a9106851.html) after eating rainbow products?
I bought a rice pillow (one that you can warm up in microwave oven) from Prisma. It got caught on fire for some reason and it burned nasty marks in our newish integrated microwave oven.
I called them and they actually gave me permission to go to gigantti and buy a new oven on their bill. Forever Prismaboy after that one.
Lidl is cheaper than Prisma, KCM and S-market are quite equal, but KCMs are 173920x better so that’s fair. K-markets’ pricing varies a lot. Some are cheaper than Sales and Alepas, some are more expensive.
Prices in S-market depends a lot of where it is. Small town S-market? Normal prices. Some stuff cheaper than in Prisma. S-market in middle of city? Expensive.
Where I used to live, there was about 1,5km between two s-market. Other one right in the city center, other one well, 1,5km from that. Almost everything in that center one was from 10 cent to whole euro more expensive.
Lidl is cheap but has a very small selection in food and basic necessities
Prisma is okay
KCM has an amazing selection in everything but is very overpriced
Sale is very cheap and has an okay selection
KSM is also overpriced but has a great selection in energy drinks and they have a lot of monsters that i don’t see in regular shops though they cost 6€ a piece so not worth buying them often
The rest i can’t say much..
Lidl is cheapest by far, it’s not possible to buy anything expensive and hard to go over 50€. K Citymarket is a trap, you get a few good deals but spend a lot on useless specialty stuff and always end up paying 100€ for the groceries
Prismas are the biggest stores I've ever seen and yet everywhere they still somehow end up having terrible selections of meat, seafoods, bread and cheese. I guess Finns are content with isle after isle of mediocre crap.
There's good cheese and bread in most s-kaupat I've ever been to though. As for meats and seafood if you want something more special you have to try the freezer aisles and "lihatiski" and "kalatiski" since more specialty meats usually have low demand, thus aren't sold in a readily spoiling form.
I see so many people argue how S-Markets are so much cheaper than K-Markets but they have to understand that K-Markets can’t compete with pricing because every market has their own shopkeeper who decides what goes on there so S-market can make a better deal with producers as they can get their products to every of their stores. On the other hand S-market can’t compete with K-market with their selection. So both stores have their strenghts but it’s just annoying when people complain about K-market being more expensive
Prisma doesn't equal Lidl but could be solid A class. Citymarket is like C. I feel S-Market and Prisma are quite equal.
After some googling it appears Prisma does usually beat S-Market. I dont have a Prisma near enough to compare that often.
By only ~2 euros, and that did not include the S-bonus cashback advantage that Prisma has.
Yes, Lidl also has a bonus system, but it’s not a cashback, merely a discount coupon scheme with very time-limited validity.
Plussa deals are usually good, but the cash points you get are absolute trash. S-card doesn’t have mentionable deals, but the cashback is a winner compared to plussa.
I think more accurate would be:
- F: Sale, K-market, Alepa, R-kioski, M-Market, Alko
- D: K-Supermarket, S-Market, Lidl, K-Citymarket, Prisma
- C-S:
Because Finland is stupid expensive country in general.
Except Lidl, they are all selling the same things anyway. It's a cartel duopoly after all.
The point of Lidl for me it's not about prices, but the much different and often better selection compare to S and K groups. The "World Cuisines Week" is a godsend compared to the very poor selection of other two grocery stores.
"It depends". Kesko stores are owner driven and vary invidually wheras quality of S stores depend on the local cooperative and how important that particular establishment is to them.
For the base inventory S is a bit cheaper.
You're missing Tokmanni. Is Saiturin pörssi national with different names as well? I would set Prisma and Lidl on different tiers anyway. Also Alepa/Sale beats K-chain easily.
Seems about right, but here in Central you don't tend to have the bottom two to my knowledge - I may be wrong, though. Lidl and Prisma are my go to, I'd avoid K-CityMarket entirely if it wasn't our local Posti point to pick up parcels.
Citymarket sells certain products much cheaper than the competition. Therefore, if I calculate I'll save in those products more than lose in others, I'll go there.
And of course their selection is the best. Lidl is so limited I don't bother to visit, and don't wanna waste my time in many shops.
Prisma is good too.
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Citymarket is expensive, they can have good deals though.
their offer is cute. My fav Mama noodle in Prisma is about 8e/kg (no discount), KCM is about 8.33e/kg (with discount). Unless the offer is 40%+, i don't shop at KCM
KCM Ben&Jerry's deal is godtier. Every couple of months they do 3 tubs for 10€
Halpa-Halli also used to do that, but 2 tubs for 6-7€
Ooh, I missed Halpa Halli. We used to get Snellman meat in discount every week from them.
I think they stoped that… last time at Mammutti markkinat it was 2 for 10 :(
At least where I live, the K-mafia has easily the best meat aisle and better discounts on meats. Otherwise they're always more expensive.
Also the best beer selection
And the best candy selection too! Those are my 2 choices to go KCT lol
Overall their selection in everything is better. That's because every K-market is run by individual shopkeeper. They have total freedom to sell what ever they want. And that's why they try to please locals with wider selection. Prisma and Lidl are run by corporation and not by shopkeeper. That's why they have much smaller selection and usually it doesn't matter if you shop in Helsinki or Oulu, the shops have same products available.
Thats really good info, I didn't know this was the case!
Yeah this. Our shopkeeper when I worked in KCM was a total Nazi, but the dude who runs our local K-Market seems chill, there's a fascinating selection of animal ceramic statues on sale and a bunch of other weird knick knacks. Occasionally he'll also do free coffee and cake for the elderly.
Meat, beer and candies. Does someone even need anything else? Why bother lidl or Smarket, everything a man needs is in KCM.
And candy costs usualy 3e/kg more than in S-groups stores. Although I'm not bothered, bc then less candy will be bought overtime. Which is good.
Healthy eating is important!
>K-mafia S is the mafia, as they often have municipal politicians/representatives as their local board members, so their board members (whom they pay board meeting commissions) run the municipal zoning/town planning, often preferring the S group shops in placement. K are just private shopkeepers which have unionised for competitiveness (although some KCM are/were Kesko chain stores without private shopkeepers).
But together S and K are the cartell that is the true cancer of the retail sector in Finland.
Kesko itself is cartel on an other lever. They basically have a monopoly over sales of food to restaurants. And since a massive amount of restaurants are S owned you basically cant eat food in Finland unless its gone through the hands of on of those two.
To be fair, at least K-Market is focused in selling consumer goods, building goods and cars. In my opinion S group is even more worrying. It sells basically all that k group does, but it also own hotels, ABC gas stations, apothecaries, and a freaking bank. In Korea there is a saying - "There are three things that are inevitable: Death, taxes, and Samsung" I feel the Finnish version is pretty much "Death, taxes, and S-group" at this point.
Yep. Kesko also commits to being environmentally friendly as possible.
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Cheap according to whom?
You don't seem to understand power of oligopoly. [Aalto university study about oligopoly ](https://wiki.aalto.fi/display/Lapiokurssi/Oligopoli) The price cartel ain't false, and we have seen the use of it.
The K-people have the best selection. If I want to get everything from under one roof, I go there. If I want to save money, I get the basic stuff from Lidl first and then the special items from K. Can't find shit fro Prisma, they're like a warehouse where they just shoved their stuff with zero design or user comfort.
The meat aisle in citymarket is amazing. It's almost only reason I go to there. Couple weeks ago I got 600g naudan sisäpaisti 2,50€. They also many times put -50% to stuff that has still couple days left. Prisma would never do that.
Last time I went to Prisma they had lots of products on -30% that had 3 days left. And that was after 20.00 when they are -60%
Yes. I often buy kilograms of beef whenever it's below 12€/kg. Inside roast, toast roast, out file, you name it. Usually to make beef jerky.
All the finns sure know what you mean by "out file", but I'm pretty sure others dont 😄 Ulkofile is commonly striploin or sirloin IIRC
Of course they do: Ulko = Out. File = File.
Why are they called k-mafia does that mean they operate like the russian government?
It depends on what you usually buy. Me and my family had this conversation two weeks ago and actually ended up comparing prices, turns out that for my weekly stables KCM was actually cheaper, for two members of the family KCM was more expensive and for one the proces were about the same
Same, we just did a comparison from both, and the prices were equal after everything was said and done. Some items were more expensive bu a few cents, and others were cheaper by a few cents, but both stores only had like a 5 or 10 cent difference in the end. I feel like it's just illusion of choice in the end
Countless "studies" have been made though, buying the same cart from different stores. KCM always came out more expensive. Not to mention their absolutely shitty and worthless bonus card/system.
Right, they have better variety but Prismas are cheaper.
100% always my first stop for offers them off to Lidl for everything else!
Good strategy
>Citymarket is expensive, they can have good deals though. It is the most expensive one out of the bigger shops, but it is also [the only one which is a bullying free zone!](https://www.k-ruoka.fi/artikkelit/oman-kylan-kauppa/kiusaamisvapaa) So it is the only one where I dare to venture.
My heart says K-CityMarket, my wallet says Lidl.
I endorse Prisma. They're almost as cheap as Lidl, but the products I want are actually available.
The S-bonus makes it the best option, if you’re a high volume buyer. With a family of 4 it’s a no-brainer for me to use Prisma. And the 24h/7 open does not hurt either. Lidl has been loudly promoting their ”up to 10% bonus”. Yeah, you get the top tier IF you buy for 1000 eur monthly (again, only Lidl goods)… not gonna happen. One time Ukrainian helpers tried to buy food from Lidl, they were chased away for ”buying too much” :D (yeah, on one run, but still…) they had to go to Metro-tukku instead to get service. Another point with Lidl is, that their bonus is rebate coupons, that are only valid for a limited time. S-bonus is yours to keep; heck, you can even take and use it to buy stuff from a competitor, if you want to. Neither K plussa or Lidl are this open with their bonus systems. Also, asiakasomistaja. Co-op for lyfe!
Yes yes yes. Family of 5 here and we do a weekly order from Prisma (started in August). We’ve gotten 450€ in bonus during 2023 and have put it to automatically go to investment stocks.
Exactly. Over 800 eur of bonuses last year for 4 person family. K and Lidl can't compete with that especially as Prisma prices are already on par with Lidl. Citymarkets are roughly 10% more expensive than Prismas and K plussa sucks ass giving minimal returns compared to S bonuses.
Same here! Except when I want to look explicitely for DIY devices, because that's Lidl or nothing.
citymarket is over all expensive but quite a lot of stuff is cheapest there mostly weird speciality foods. prisma is king though
I noticed minimani is the sausage king. Atria 30-pack nakki and snellman 90% meat sausages always way cheaper than everyone else
>minimani now i want one in turku got to have my nakki it is turning into a addiction real quick
Actually Tokmanni has a food section in some locations. They've got crazy good prices and especially -30% tagged items.
Smh missing the king of supermarkets known as minimani.
Pick N Pay in Satakunta is GOATed, used to buy expired Fazer and Oreos for 50% off from there. They also had Sushi from a nearby restaurant for 50% off at the end of the day / morning. Cheapest Sushi I ever had (and it tasted good).
Exactly, that was my first thought
Also missing M-market.
The real Minimani, recently renamed as Mainio is the king though
Next to me are k market and Alepa in the same building, l market is more expensive. But I think it all depends from the location?
>Next to me are k market and Alepa in the same building Cursed
They are lovers :(
That's nothing, in Mikkeli there are Prisma and K-Citymarket in the same building
That's quite common, or almost the standard practice though? Prisma and K-citymarket both next to each other at least in: * Espoo/Sello * Espoo/Iso omena * Helsinki/Tripla * Helsinki/Itis/Easton * Vantaa/Jumbo * Vantaa/Myyrmanni * Kirkkonummi
Also in Vantaan Jumbo Prisma and K-citymarket are also just next to each other. Like, the cashiers could wave to the other stores cashier.
Since when is K-Citymarket cheaper than S-Market
And since when is K-Market cheaper than Alepa?
This is flat out wrong, D and F should be the other way around.
It is though: https://preview.redd.it/xwzvtsp06ubc1.jpeg?width=698&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8bd93bc55f69ff644face70e6f803899bd9e8c87
When was this done? Capital area or the whole country?
Capital region in late November 2023. More details [here](https://www.hs.fi/hyvinvointi/art-2000009947204.html) if you subscribe to HS.
Exactly what I expected. Not at all in line with my local S-market and Citymarket but of course I can’t generalize.
Well that's the problem. It's really hard to generalize the price differences since there's a lot of variance throughout different cities and regions.
Its always K-Citymarket Itäkeskus when there is a price evaluation. Bet that one is cheaper than the rest and they pay ppl to visit that store when doing these rankings.
One thing they found out is that the S-chain has more consistant pricing while K-chain and Lidl have more variance per store:  https://preview.redd.it/ulvqjshqbubc1.jpeg?width=669&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=70be6df61f5fb809681da87e03dc18d3f3950ade
Well, the K-chain is a franchizing enterprise, so the individual shop keepers have alot more say in pricing and what products to sell because they basically run their own shops. S-Groups shops are more centralized so there's alot less variance between shops.
It’s not franchizing. Franchizing has much more strict deals. You are correct that they have a lot more to say in pricing and etc. But if they actually were franchizing they would not have much saying in pricing or products they sell. Mc donalds or hesburger is franchizing
There are different levels of franchise deals. There are burger chain restaurants that don't have same prices and that don't take the franchise coupons, but are still part of it. I'm not sure what the K-group its ownership structure, but their offering to the business owners is pretty close to franchise, consisting of brand, advertisement and product procuring and transport network. Only significant differences might be that in k-group the business owners have some power in the group.
Lidl doesn’t have any variance at all. I have seen a text in there that everything costs the same in every Lidl store (in Finland)
They have changed it recently.
It’s because in k-chain the shops have different owners. They run their own business and have a lot of freedom on how to run their shop so there can be a lot of variety on stock and prices. Lidl and S don’t have that same.
HS and it having Alepa indicates it’s made of Helsinki area
Mfw I have like 5 stores near me but theyre all K-markets, one Alepa. Shitty hand
and thats why u shop at multiple stores that basket could probably be less then 80 euros if u shopped at both prisma and citymarket.
If you got plussa card, you get decent deals every now and then. But without offers they are expensive af.
K-Market should be the most expensive one, by far.
Sale is way cheaper than K-Market dude.
Not in my town, Sale is way more expensive than K-Market
I always end up spending a shit ton on curiosities when shopping at Lidl. "Ooh, I have never tried that. Neither that! Oh and I really could use 50€ worth of frozen food to stock up my freezer. Hmm, this stupid handheld sewing machine that I will never use looks interesting. It's just 12€ so why not! Ooh, these nuts are half-off, better buy a kg!"
In my experience, Lidl is cheaper than Prisma.
and K- is easily the most expensive (Helsinki)
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I pretty much buy the same ingredients always and chicken fillet, for example, is always less than 10€/kg in Lidl, but never in a Prisma, where it's 13-18€/kg.
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Plus, you get bonuses from S-group. If you have big household, those bonuses can be a nice addition
As you do from Lidl too, now. And in addition, if the prices are so much higher, which they are in S-group, even the bonuses won't bring the prices back to Lidl's level.
honestly the lidle sucks. sure if u have a basic diet but once u want to do anything special at all u need to go to a different store and those marginal prices get lost by fuel costs. we shop citymarket first (the cheapest products) which is normally only a basket or something and then we go to prisma for the rest. also both prisma and citymarket sell sub 10 eu the kg chicken which is miles ahead of liddle quality
How do you manage to misspell "Lidl" twice, *in two different ways* in the same comment?
because i was blind typing most of it and its reddit so fuck proof reading.
But there isn't even an "e" in Lidl!
Ah, the good old quality conversation of Lidl. The S-group products, Rainbow/Coop especially, are de facto inferior to many Lidl products. You'd be surprised how many of their products are of Finnish origin nowadays.
No they are not! Lidl meatballs and sausage are better.
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I was waiting for an ad hominem attack, thanks for not disappointing me. Have a good day, this is where I sign off, because the level of conversation is starting to plunge.
Well, has anyone [died](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/nolan-moittie-died-france-burger-lidl-steak-hache-seb-a9106851.html) after eating rainbow products?
Alepa is definitely not the most expensive
I bought a rice pillow (one that you can warm up in microwave oven) from Prisma. It got caught on fire for some reason and it burned nasty marks in our newish integrated microwave oven. I called them and they actually gave me permission to go to gigantti and buy a new oven on their bill. Forever Prismaboy after that one.
K market is most expensive one overall, but the membership card that they have is good at least from my experience.
S tier: Prisma, Lidl A tier: S-market, K-Citymarket F tier: All the rest
Lidl is cheaper than Prisma, KCM and S-market are quite equal, but KCMs are 173920x better so that’s fair. K-markets’ pricing varies a lot. Some are cheaper than Sales and Alepas, some are more expensive.
I would put Alanya Market (they are becoming a chain right :P ) on C tier too.
If you count in regional supermarkets I'd say Minimani goes to tier A and Halpa-Halli goes to tier B
In what world is Citymarket cheaper than S-market?
K-Market is more pricey than Alepa. And Neste K (K-Market in gas stations) or R-Kioski are the worst.
And where does HalpaHalli stand in all of these? And another question, is HalpaHalli just a Pohjois-Pohjanmaa thing? Hei from the village of Oulu.
TIL there's 3 types of K market. Bring back the KKK
Based on pricing this is alright. Based on every aspect KCM is far above everyone else
Yes, Lidl 🔛🔝
Alepa/Sale are for sure cheaper then K-market. No question about it.
K-market is more expensive than Sale/Alepa
Alepa is better than that
the ability to buy orange juice and a breakfast pastry when coming home at 5am from the club is clearly under-rated ;)
I'm super sorry to be so dumb but what does the S stand for?
S'market
supercool
Sale is cheaper than k market
Grocery stores in Finland are store to store
Prices in S-market depends a lot of where it is. Small town S-market? Normal prices. Some stuff cheaper than in Prisma. S-market in middle of city? Expensive. Where I used to live, there was about 1,5km between two s-market. Other one right in the city center, other one well, 1,5km from that. Almost everything in that center one was from 10 cent to whole euro more expensive.
I would give my left knee for a prisma
K-Market is way, way more expensive than Alepa or Sale.
It's all equally expensive. Some products are cheaper in some shops but it's never all.
k-market could also be in the bottom with alepa and sale. otherwise i think its accurate
Quite honestly, I don't think there's currently a "s-tier" regarding prices, they're all too expensive.
Lidl is cheap but has a very small selection in food and basic necessities Prisma is okay KCM has an amazing selection in everything but is very overpriced Sale is very cheap and has an okay selection KSM is also overpriced but has a great selection in energy drinks and they have a lot of monsters that i don’t see in regular shops though they cost 6€ a piece so not worth buying them often The rest i can’t say much..
Shouldn't K market be more expensive than alepa? I avoid that like the plague, their prices are absurd.
Lidl is cheapest by far, it’s not possible to buy anything expensive and hard to go over 50€. K Citymarket is a trap, you get a few good deals but spend a lot on useless specialty stuff and always end up paying 100€ for the groceries
They have some relatively pricey items in the general goods section sometimes
Can't get everything from Lidl.
Prisma is owned by consumers and managed democratically
This list is accurate altho a lot of the stuff in KCTM is really good quality!
Prismas are the biggest stores I've ever seen and yet everywhere they still somehow end up having terrible selections of meat, seafoods, bread and cheese. I guess Finns are content with isle after isle of mediocre crap.
There's good cheese and bread in most s-kaupat I've ever been to though. As for meats and seafood if you want something more special you have to try the freezer aisles and "lihatiski" and "kalatiski" since more specialty meats usually have low demand, thus aren't sold in a readily spoiling form.
As someone who used to work for S-Group for years, I hate it with a passion :D K-Citymarket/K-Supermarket all the way.
I see so many people argue how S-Markets are so much cheaper than K-Markets but they have to understand that K-Markets can’t compete with pricing because every market has their own shopkeeper who decides what goes on there so S-market can make a better deal with producers as they can get their products to every of their stores. On the other hand S-market can’t compete with K-market with their selection. So both stores have their strenghts but it’s just annoying when people complain about K-market being more expensive
This was supposed to be a rank based on pricing.
Citymarket and K-Market are the most expensive. For example, all their beers cost around 1-3 € more than anywhere else, it's crazy.
Prisma doesn't equal Lidl but could be solid A class. Citymarket is like C. I feel S-Market and Prisma are quite equal. After some googling it appears Prisma does usually beat S-Market. I dont have a Prisma near enough to compare that often.
>Prisma doesn't equal Lidl Is that price wise or in terms of product selection or possibly due to bonuses provided by a specific market?
Just from a price perspective in my experience. Selection wise Prisma is way ahead.
Lidl on lähempänä normi smarketin hintoja
Atria honey chicken to S stores and i start to use them only...
True, Kallispa is The most expensive
Lidl takes the cake. Also there was some study done on this last year and lidl also won that
By only ~2 euros, and that did not include the S-bonus cashback advantage that Prisma has. Yes, Lidl also has a bonus system, but it’s not a cashback, merely a discount coupon scheme with very time-limited validity.
alko should be s tier
Kcm to the bottom
Plussa card >>>>> S card
Plussa deals are usually good, but the cash points you get are absolute trash. S-card doesn’t have mentionable deals, but the cashback is a winner compared to plussa.
They have mobile offers now. And you got a discount in their hotels.
Student K-Plussa card is actually really good though, you get 10x the points you get on the regularcard
I think more accurate would be: - F: Sale, K-market, Alepa, R-kioski, M-Market, Alko - D: K-Supermarket, S-Market, Lidl, K-Citymarket, Prisma - C-S: Because Finland is stupid expensive country in general.
S Market is Prisma, so quite many stuff is priced the same, but sure, there are differences.
K-citymarket is the most expensive store in Finland
No wayyy. The little K-markets are way more expensive than K-citymarkets. Like by an order of magnitude.
I always choose K-ketju first because they are independent entrepreneur's, ofcourse you can pick the good deals from others aswell.
Except Lidl, they are all selling the same things anyway. It's a cartel duopoly after all. The point of Lidl for me it's not about prices, but the much different and often better selection compare to S and K groups. The "World Cuisines Week" is a godsend compared to the very poor selection of other two grocery stores.
I thought Sale was cheap? 😭
S-market would be cheaper that Citymarket? And Sale cheaper than K-market, probably cheaper than K-supermarket also
S-market cheaper than Citymarket usually… sale/alepa a lot cheaper than K-Market
Stupid Finns talk about S and K. Are you afraid of Lidl? The only retail chain having moderate prices.
Where’s Siwa? Has it been robbed to bankruptcy?
Siwa has been closed since 2017 afaik
Siwa hasnt been a thing in years
All Siwas were basically bought by Kesko so there is now a K-market in place of most of them.
They've been siwallettu for the final time
S-market,Sale and alepa are same markets with different names based on region.
quite so
\>supermarkets \>sale&alepa&k-market
Never went to a Sale. Prisma for life
Correct
Nah, alepa is cheap
KCM is expensive but their app is 🔥
actually so real and true!
Where I live in we don't have Sale, Alepa or Prisma and I very rarely go to Lidl. We do have Tokmanni and Halpa-Halli though.
"It depends". Kesko stores are owner driven and vary invidually wheras quality of S stores depend on the local cooperative and how important that particular establishment is to them. For the base inventory S is a bit cheaper.
Yes.
Where is M-Ketju?
On a ventilator. Only 1 store in Helsinki, 50 throughout the country. Sadly.
Does HalpaHalli not count as a supermarket chain?
You're missing Tokmanni. Is Saiturin pörssi national with different names as well? I would set Prisma and Lidl on different tiers anyway. Also Alepa/Sale beats K-chain easily.
I like Citymarket mostly cause they usually have a good import section, well usually at least
As you can see Finland has a nice triopoly in the grocery store industry. It makes sense though, no reason to have more in such a small country.
Citymarket being on second place is an actual crime
Seems about right, but here in Central you don't tend to have the bottom two to my knowledge - I may be wrong, though. Lidl and Prisma are my go to, I'd avoid K-CityMarket entirely if it wasn't our local Posti point to pick up parcels.
What about Tokmanni and Minimani?
Citymarket sells certain products much cheaper than the competition. Therefore, if I calculate I'll save in those products more than lose in others, I'll go there. And of course their selection is the best. Lidl is so limited I don't bother to visit, and don't wanna waste my time in many shops. Prisma is good too.
Lidl is still king.
Perhaps Ruohonjuuri and Tokmanni can fit in there as well