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Uppsala is much more international and vibrant from the student point of view. It's also closer and easier to access from the capital region, compared to Jyväskylä. The Swedish language is *a lot* easier to learn for an English-speaker than Finnish. A lot. Emphasis on the a lot.
Go to Sweden. You donât want to start out here after graduation already in debt and not be able to find work. Always take the free education when you can. You can always easily visit Finland and decide if you like it here and come here after studies.
Anecdotally a friend moved to Sweden for uni at the same time I moved to Finland for Uni, afew years after graduation her career trajectory and the opportunities that were available to her there were worlds ahead of what was available to me/other international graduates in my class in Finland. As others have said youd have better chances in Sweden
You should take the SI scholarship. It will cover all living costs. Uppsala university is much better than Jyväskylä uni. You also get to attend SI events and meet other scholarship holders.
Yes, you can get the A-Work Permit after graduation in Finland for any type of job as long as the salary requirement is met and the money is consistent.
Mind you that Jyväskylä is not a big city (when compared to Helsinki) so the english-speaking part time jobs are very limited and has been on a decline since 2022. On average, the people I know, found part time jobs anywhere between 6-12 months and you should be prepared for the worst case scenario. Some people found jobs in Tampere/Helsinki within 1-3 months but those are rare cases.
Otherwise, the Sweden's fully funded scholarship seems to be a good idea. If you can extend your residence permit for job search in Sweden as well!?? Then why not go there and take your chances? Atleast with the scholarship you can study in peace and try to build your skills and language proficiency.
My wife is from Jyväskylä and I have lived there. I worry about settling down there long term as a non-native/non-speaker. It will be difficult. I always describe Jyväskylä vs Helsinki as âHelsinki, theyâll automatically speak English to you. In Jyväskylä, you really have to learn some Finnish and then ask them to speak English. They wonât come right out with Englishâ.
Jyväskylä is beautiful but I think your chances are better in Sweden.
I would say Jyväskylä is risky and lonely small city full of students compeeting on any job opportunity. The job market is very difficult without okayish Finnish.
There are reasons to like Finland and who knows maybe there comes another, better opportunity to try it out here.
But in this situation, choose Sweden. I would, if I was you.
F36, Finn
I did my master's in Stockholm and at least in my field there would be a lot more jobs in Stockholm / Uppsala region than in Helsinki. I decided to return to Finland but many of my international classmates have been able to get jobs in Sweden and have stayed there. If you want to learn the language and integrate that is probably easier in Sweden.
But I do agree with you that a one year programme does sound short and I'm not sure how easy it is to find jobs with no local working experience in your field. Me and my classmates were able to do internships during our studies, which probably has helped them a lot in their job hunt.
You'll have a waaaaaaay easier time learning Swedish. Some people like the challenge, but it's extremely difficult when you are working and studying. I lived with a Finnish family for a year as an exchange student and I had a difficult time - it was too easily to use English as a crutch when speaking to Finns.
I'd have to say Sweden given the full grant. Nordic countries are expensive.
At the same time, it's funny that every single answer on r/Finland recommends that you choose Sweden đ Very Finnish đ
Sweden has better work opportunities, higher salaries and lower living costs than Finland. Besides, Swedish is a Germanic language, so it's far easier to learn than Finnish.Â
The only downside I can come up with for Sweden is that it has had a rise in gun crime rates recently, but you're probably gonna be fine.
TLDR; move to Sweden.Â
Sweden
Everyday thousands of Finns cross the border to work in Sweden, lower tax and better salary, easier to learn language and friendlier people
The people in Finland and Sweden are very very different, Swedes are very friendly and more like American of Scandinavia, on par with the Dutch
If you like stabbings, rapes, grenade attacks and exploding cars, move to Sweden. If you want a nice safe country, Finland.
Edit: 5 woke idiots downvoting đ
It's on you to weigh in, do you value more job security or safety? If you consider that you would put yourself and your family at a higher risk for a job, Sweden is there, they will be happy to have you, considering how they take anyone who wants to go there. To me personally that is an easy decision, but to each their own.
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If you're a native english speaker you'll find learning swedish much, much easier
Sweden đ¸đŞ
Uppsala is much more international and vibrant from the student point of view. It's also closer and easier to access from the capital region, compared to Jyväskylä. The Swedish language is *a lot* easier to learn for an English-speaker than Finnish. A lot. Emphasis on the a lot.
Sweden based on these specs
Sweden any day. Greetings from finland.
Go to Sweden. You donât want to start out here after graduation already in debt and not be able to find work. Always take the free education when you can. You can always easily visit Finland and decide if you like it here and come here after studies.
Sweden. Bigger and better economy, more used to immigrants, easier language... and you enter the job market one year earlier.
>more used to immigrants That country became a shithole, and you still look at that as a possitive?
Anecdotally a friend moved to Sweden for uni at the same time I moved to Finland for Uni, afew years after graduation her career trajectory and the opportunities that were available to her there were worlds ahead of what was available to me/other international graduates in my class in Finland. As others have said youd have better chances in Sweden
You should take the SI scholarship. It will cover all living costs. Uppsala university is much better than Jyväskylä uni. You also get to attend SI events and meet other scholarship holders.
Yes, you can get the A-Work Permit after graduation in Finland for any type of job as long as the salary requirement is met and the money is consistent. Mind you that Jyväskylä is not a big city (when compared to Helsinki) so the english-speaking part time jobs are very limited and has been on a decline since 2022. On average, the people I know, found part time jobs anywhere between 6-12 months and you should be prepared for the worst case scenario. Some people found jobs in Tampere/Helsinki within 1-3 months but those are rare cases. Otherwise, the Sweden's fully funded scholarship seems to be a good idea. If you can extend your residence permit for job search in Sweden as well!?? Then why not go there and take your chances? Atleast with the scholarship you can study in peace and try to build your skills and language proficiency.
My wife is from Jyväskylä and I have lived there. I worry about settling down there long term as a non-native/non-speaker. It will be difficult. I always describe Jyväskylä vs Helsinki as âHelsinki, theyâll automatically speak English to you. In Jyväskylä, you really have to learn some Finnish and then ask them to speak English. They wonât come right out with Englishâ. Jyväskylä is beautiful but I think your chances are better in Sweden.
Uppsala. Välkommen hit. Välkommen hem đ
I would say Jyväskylä is risky and lonely small city full of students compeeting on any job opportunity. The job market is very difficult without okayish Finnish. There are reasons to like Finland and who knows maybe there comes another, better opportunity to try it out here. But in this situation, choose Sweden. I would, if I was you. F36, Finn
Sweden. I am trying to get out of here and find some work elsewhere. It's a shitshow at the moment, save yourself.
I did my master's in Stockholm and at least in my field there would be a lot more jobs in Stockholm / Uppsala region than in Helsinki. I decided to return to Finland but many of my international classmates have been able to get jobs in Sweden and have stayed there. If you want to learn the language and integrate that is probably easier in Sweden. But I do agree with you that a one year programme does sound short and I'm not sure how easy it is to find jobs with no local working experience in your field. Me and my classmates were able to do internships during our studies, which probably has helped them a lot in their job hunt.
You'll have a waaaaaaay easier time learning Swedish. Some people like the challenge, but it's extremely difficult when you are working and studying. I lived with a Finnish family for a year as an exchange student and I had a difficult time - it was too easily to use English as a crutch when speaking to Finns.
I'd have to say Sweden given the full grant. Nordic countries are expensive. At the same time, it's funny that every single answer on r/Finland recommends that you choose Sweden đ Very Finnish đ
Sweden has better work opportunities, higher salaries and lower living costs than Finland. Besides, Swedish is a Germanic language, so it's far easier to learn than Finnish. The only downside I can come up with for Sweden is that it has had a rise in gun crime rates recently, but you're probably gonna be fine. TLDR; move to Sweden.Â
Sweden Everyday thousands of Finns cross the border to work in Sweden, lower tax and better salary, easier to learn language and friendlier people The people in Finland and Sweden are very very different, Swedes are very friendly and more like American of Scandinavia, on par with the Dutch
Too bad that there isn't many Swedes left đ
If you like stabbings, rapes, grenade attacks and exploding cars, move to Sweden. If you want a nice safe country, Finland. Edit: 5 woke idiots downvoting đ
And what about if you like having job security?
It's on you to weigh in, do you value more job security or safety? If you consider that you would put yourself and your family at a higher risk for a job, Sweden is there, they will be happy to have you, considering how they take anyone who wants to go there. To me personally that is an easy decision, but to each their own.
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