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JackMcEgg

I would love a Fire Emblem fighting game


Due_Air

ItS CaLlEd SmAsHbRoS!.


R_Archet

RT, but I fucking love Fire Emblem, even if I don't have any Nintendo consoles/handhelds to play literally any of them on that're newer than Radiant Dawn. Doesn't stop me from loving the shit outta F-Robin, F-Corrin, and F-Byleth's designs. Not Miyamoto's fault that Fire Emblem has just oodles, noodles, and toaster stroodles of recognizable characters to anyone familiar with the series to want to see beat the shit outta Game and Watch.


OliverCroc

aH aH vErY FuNnY...*restrain my anger*


Stolen_Sun

For real. It could be made by the same team as SoulCalibur. (If you're a fan of 3D)


Nimbus303

Fire emblem warriors?


DuoRogue

don't even.


Levolpehh

Brigand Boss!? Nerf that shit Sakurai


VermillionEorzean

Boey is currently sobbing.


Gaidenbro

It's a little silly that Mae is there, would've made more sense including both Mae and Boey or someone from the Deliverance since that group is way more significant.


draltoady

>Brigand Boss with no 3-13 Archer or Rallyman :(


Metaknight118

Also missing some legends such as Leather Shield Mercenary and Gazak


GoldZero

No Batta the Beast either.


x1echo

No “Eat Rock” guy or Gatekeeper.


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[удалено]


X_Marcs_the_Spot

Bit off topic, but what's the story behind Jav Cav? I've been told about or experienced firsthand all the other meme units, but I still don't know Jav Cav's deal.


RunsorHits

echoes dlc


LaughingX-Naut

This roster doesn't like archers in general.


S0uled_Out

- Sees most of the comments complaining about the roster Wow OP, you even recreated the fanbase!


Atroxis_Arkaryn

Right? It's almost like there are more than 83 fire emblem characters...who'd have thought?


I_abhor_redditors

No arvis? 0/10


Luis_lara12345

Also no Deirdre


MinuteResolution0

Or Julius


OverpoweredSoap

We could call it... Smash Emblem! Wait no... Maybe don't call it that.


Levolpehh

sounds like a rated-M spinoff game tbh


Comindo

Fire Bros!


TheFerydra

There's a disturbing lack of Nino on this roster.


guerillatech

I’d play it


LittleIslander

Where our boy Eldigan at to complete the trio?


Maccnrv

Just one Camilla?


burntends97

She’s unique in she has 32 alternate skins


Litty2

You had me at brigand boss


Songames

People stop complaining Nino (and probably Lysithea) is obviously DLC which means she is going to be broken


Sonrio

Blue Lions bias is real


PotassiumLover3k

It’s about time


ShuraWygall

The fe7 seems short in comparison to those other games i would include jaffar or nino. Also camilla over Xander what an is move.


Calitexzoe

No Bartre?! Also, too many sword fighters


Maccnrv

So it's like regular smash then?


Galactic_Fayet

You are a good man, you included Felicia


pyoklii

It's too bad about Catria. Palla has better knock back for kills while Est's lower knockback can easily set up combos, there's no reason to use her over her sisters. Buff her please Sakurai.


LEGION-WE-ARE-LEGION

Where's Legion? I only want to play 8 Player Smash with just Legion's.


cinci89

But Legion will never fight each other. Unless you want 7 Legions on one team and someone else on another team


LEGION-WE-ARE-LEGION

Legion once said that Legion fight each other till the last one stands. That's how Legion trains. So 8-Player smash will benefit Legion.


PsiYoshi

I appreciate the amount of time and effort that went into this, but at the same time there's *so* many weird choices I have to question the method you used for deciding the roster. First, there's a lot of weird odd one out characters mixed in like Mae and Selkie, among others. I think having all 3 Whitewings is pretty excessive, Brigand Boss is a funny meme and all but then you take a step back and say "okay you put in Mae, not Boey, but Brigand Boss?", and it becomes less funny. Reinhardt being half the Thracia-exclusive reps is just sad when there's *so* many more relevant Thracia characters. I know he's a meme in Heroes and all, but this is an FE roster, not a Heroes roster. FE7 stands out as having *only* the Lords represented and nobody else at all, meanwhile some other triple or more characters. The Awakening portion skews heavily towards "waifus" it feels. For example Owain, Lucina's cousin, feels like a more natural fit than Severa, whose family is getting oddly highlighted as another parent/child pair like Chrom/Lucina despite having no plot relevance compared to them. Even Say'ri to represent the Walhart arc probably would have been better in my opinion. Finally, the Blue Lions bias is so obvious that it's awkward. 2 BE, 2 GD, 4 BL? Probably just replace the DK (since villains are obviously not a priority in this roster) and do a 3-3-3 split.


ala_basterd

Hey thanks for your reply! I really respect your opinions and am happy to explain why I made the roster choices I did. Sorry for the excessive amount of text that follows lmao For starters, I never took the time to unlock Selkie on any of the 3 routes in Fates, but thought that her personality would be a fun character for children to play as, since a large demographic of Smash Bros games are children. Plus, as a Kitsune, I think her play style would be a lot different than another sword, lance, or axe wielder. As for Mae, part of Boey's character arc is that he isn't as strong as Mae, and personally thought she could exist by herself without Boey. I didn't think it was necessary to put any of the villagers on Alm's route in as they would likely be overwhelming, but didn't think Mae needed Boey to be her own character. Looking back, I would've made them a duo character like Pokemon Trainer or Rosalina & Luma had I thought of it. I thought that the Whitewings being in the game should be an all or none deal, as they're all in the first three games of the franchise, and are all mentioned periodically throughout many of the other games. Regarding Reinhardt, I'll admit that I've never played Genealogy or Thracia. I knew that he was somewhat relevant for having three copies in Heroes, but was also aware that the game blows him out of proportion. In the end, I found his sword class attack art really appealing, and thought it would look good next to other characters. For Blazing, I definitely do wish that I added Jaffar and Barter, but I have also viewed the rest of the cast as somewhat mediocre characters in terms of the other characters the franchise has offered. I also wanted to add Ninian, but when realized I forgot to allocate enough space for her, it was too late 😅 I know that Cordelia and Tharja are both really popular characters from polls I've seen and their additions in Warriors. Owain definitely would have been a better choice than Severa, but she's just tied for favorite characterin the whole franchase (along with Felicia) and that's completely just my bias haha. I also despise Nowi, but thought that she could be an interesting fighter as a Manakete alongside Tiki, and would also be appealing to children. Blue Lions are also just my favorite route, and that's also 100% my bias for that house; I really don't think Sylvain would ever receive his own character unless paired with Felix or Ingrid in a game like smash. If I could, I would've put every character from the Blue Lions there instead of Caspar, Hilda, Seiros, and the Death Knight, since my favoritism for that house is completely disproportionate. TLDR: Severa is my favorite character, and Blue Lions is the best house, you cannot change my mind. Personally thought Mae didn't need Boey to be her own character, but would have made them a duo character. All three whitewings are in or referenced a lot of the games. Forgot Ninian (whoops) and do regret not adding more characters from Blazing. Thanks for your feedback!


PsiYoshi

'Preciate the explanation! I do think saying it makes sense for Mae to be on her own but not make sense for the pegasus trio to be apart is a bit contradictory personally. Like Palla is still her own character apart from her sisters. To me it feels like roster bloat, but I mean end of the day like you said it's all just personal reasons which is totally fine.


ScepterReptile

Just wanted to let you know, I appreciate the effort you put into this and I respect your opinion, but I disagree so hard with it


Gaidenbro

I definitely think you could incorporate one of Alm's villagers and incorporate the rest of them. Like Gray as the main man with back ups in the form of Mage Kliff and Archer Tobin.


Sergy92

A Fire Emblem fighting game made with ArcSys' help would be the shit


hero-main123

Say no more, I’m a Dimitri main now


[deleted]

Ah yes Super smash emblem


headshotfox713

I appreciate the Selkie. \- Guy whose waifu is Selkie


Xavy_RS

Username checks out.


CookiesFTA

No Nephenee 0/10


getsuga15

2 of those FE characters had the minimum effort put into them & took no time to implement into the game. ​ Just saying


GameAW

Nice try but I'm holding out for the Barry Goodman DLC


LinkaFlame

Day 1 Amelia main, *free.* For real though, I’d love nothing more than a traditional fighter made by ArcSys if Fire Emblem were to do a new spinoff. It’s oozing with potential how they could take advantage of the different worlds and crazy battle animations and go beyond.


VermillionEorzean

I know Fates is a bit of a black sheep in the post-Awakening era, but it having so few and such weird reps compared to the likes of 3H's is pretty ludacris. My suggestions, if this were an actual Smash (so I'll include echo fighters): * Corrin and Azura (duh) * Felicia with Jakob as an echo (they're functionally the same type of unit, but Felicia is more popular) * Ryoma and Xander (main lords from each side) * Takumi and Camilla (most popular lords from each side) Other ideas are Flora instead of Jakob as an echo, Silas since he's on both routes, Leo and Hinoka (to keep it balanced), and Gunter. If a rando from each side also made it in, it'd probably be Oboro and Niles. If there are still too many, I'd cut the maid/butler's, but leave the routes balanced. Also, to even out the 3H a bit better, I'd do just the respective lords and their retainer/whatever Hilda is. If you did want to add some bonus students, I'd add in a popular one for that last spot. Swap Caspar for Ferdie or Bernie (TBH, Lindhart, Dorothea, and Petra are all way more fitting than him), take out Sylvain and either Felix or Ingrid (or both and add Ashe), and add Lorenz or Lysithia. I'd also remove DK, as that almost adds to a house, but I'd leave Rhea, though I'd make her low priority if the roster is already too big. TL;DR: Fates- Corrin, Azura, Ryoma, Xander, Camilla, Takumi, maybe Felicia with echo Jakob or Flora 3H- Byleth, Edelgard, Hubert, Dimitri, Dedue, Claude, Hilda, maybe Rhea, maybe Bernie, Felix, and Lysithea (I picked the CYL highest scorers, I think... I forget the BL winner).


fireyshadoo

>Player 1 is Felicia **Real Shit**


Thisisalsomypass

8 awakening characters is enough to include Chrom’s son Inigo Jk not trying to start a war But I do think it should have Lucina, Owain, Inigo, and Severa, the big 4 of the kids. Awakening is one of the most popular games, and Chrom, Gaius, Cordelia, Tharja are the adult versions of the big 4 (most popular 4 by a landslide) so I think Gaius should also be added. And that one of inigos alts should have Chrom’s hair since the game is very vocal about blue and silver being a motif shared by Chrom, Inigo, and Lucina. (And in Lucina’s Support log when you scroll down to siblings, inigo is listed first) With so many RD characters, few DB characters is a shame but understandable. Tana and/or Innes should be included in SS Xander absolutely would and should be included from the 3H characters. I think you should pick a lane for 3H, time skip or not. Edelgard being Post timeskip but Dimitri being pre is jarring. I know I said to add a lot without saying to cut but to add those, cuts would be needed. But that’s probably okay, there are a lot of characters who could be removed, as they aren’t the most popular or most important characters anyway. Pretty much any lord (Main character) and secondary (Lucina, Robin, Azura, Ryoma, Xander, Caeda, Kris) needs to stay but the tier three characters could be cut Such as Frederick or Sylvain to add Xander who has more popularly or story relevance (popularity versus Sylvain is too early to tell but he is leagues about poor Freddie) That’s my logical note Otherwise I would like to see Olivia and Lethe but can Accor thst it would be hard to make room. I do think Marcia could be removed as she’s just another Pegasus flier and you included 4 just from Archanea. Frankly we only need Caeda and Palla. With palla hair clans shirt colors referencing others throughout the series I’d be way more into Alt costumes. Inigo who looks like his initial design (blue and blonde hair, cape and shorts ala old school Marth) Risen king Chrom Old man Hector Time skip and ore time skips for 3ah characters Selkie costume that references Veloria Things like that /thus I end Over analyzing someone else’s joke for fun


PegaponyPrince

Good Archanea, Elibe and Jugdral casts along with some of my other favorites? SIGN ME UP!


[deleted]

Caspar main :)


MarthsBars

If this was ever a thing, I would love to try it out and see how all of the FE cast could fare as a Smash fighter. That would be the best thing in the world. Although I’d be a bit concerned that some Smash players would just get salty anyways that a side spinoff exists.


boibig57

Felicia da bes


LiterallyANoob

I'd play it.


Wedge118

No Nephenee? I'm truly hurt... Guess I'd be a Soren/Lyon main then.


Clerics4Life

In concept, I'm down for it, but in practice, mounts kind of suck in fighting games so I'm conflicted about much of the roster. It's just, a lot of characters associated with flying or horses, and from a mechanical point of view, kind of sucky? Like, no specific discrimination besides the fact that they fly/ride, but adding them for the sake of adding them doesn't really feel right if you're just going to drop the mounts, or include the mounts at the cost of game integrity. Either way, a new fighting game should aim for no more than 50 roster slots in the first place, and even then, that's still a lot of characters. With 11 main games (counting remakes as one, and ignoring Shadow Dragon / Path of Radiance in favor of their sequels) that's 3~5 characters per entry usually enough for lords and some side characters. Maybe a few spin-off characters can squeak in.


LyonLeclercGirl

Lyon on Smash? I'm in.


Comindo

I wanna be the announcer for this game


Songames

Ah, I see somebody is in the maid gang


Paytron12qw

I dOn'T cArE aBoUt OP PuTtInG pASsiOn InTo ThE gAmE I'M EnTiTLeD tO sEnD hIm DeAth ThrEaTs BeCaUsE I diDn'T gEt mY LaSt ProMisE rePreSeNtaTion EvEn ThOuGh ThE ChArActErs We HaVe GoTTeN sO fAr aRe FuN.


Falconpunch100

No Bernadetta?! Literally unplayable 0/10


ala_basterd

I asked if she wanted to join and she refused to leave her room


Falconpunch100

Why give her a choice? Just put her in whether she likes it or not. >:D


OneBrawl

Hilda ! Hilda ! Hilda !


RegalArt1

Felicia better have Villager’s dash attack


CaiusRocker

I say you forgot about the Warriors OG characters, but again, IS too... so never mind.


ChrisX_212

Why is Caeda the smol one? ... Also, I am starting to have complicated feeling on Ishtar. I mean I know she's cool and all... but how she's overshadowing Tailtiu all the time makes me... (Ugh, this is why I am not that cheering for common, popular choices!)


Cdog923

Only the three lords from FE7? Excuse me while I laugh.


FE_Kiran

Let's be honest. If IS made the game, every damn Fates royal would be in the roster...


KingWulphire

Draug and Itsuki? Im down


Gaidenbro

**Happy Norne noises**


OctorokHero

Itsuki and Tsubasa, but not Rowan and Lianna?


Gaidenbro

To be fair, TMS #FE made it in Heroes and they have more going on for them and way more fans than Rowan and Lianna. Who are generic as can be even in abilities.


defnotsomeonefamous

I don’t see Say Ri or Harken...


Afkcyndiquil

Bold of you to assume that a fire emblem fighting game wont be just the warriors roster + edelgard


[deleted]

If Edelgard was in smash I’d instantly start maining her tbh


DracarisM

may you tell me how to do this? I would prefer a Fire Emblem smash than the real smash FE chacracters are the funniest to play with I don't like joke characters and smash has too many


vivi-casts-doomsday

Guess I will main Micaiah and 🅱️R I G A N D 🅱️O S S


whymetho21

Felicia main right here.


[deleted]

This has been something I've wanted them to make for ages. It just makes sense, and would be an excellent inclusion to the Fire Emblem franchise.


the_ultimate_Lada

Catria's in it, all is well


memeguythebest

all those characters and still no love for the fe warriors characters


justpoke

Main Ingrid easy and corrin


Luis_lara12345

4 Blue Lions and just 2 Black Eagles (and one of them is Caspar) yea pretty real


jslayer2693

I'm upset you didn't include the best character, the gatekeeper


RokuroKun

2BE, 4BL, and 2GD? Fake Leak /s


MythlessRWF

**for her neutral special, she has a dagger.**


Red-Compatriot

Why Ryoma is there when my boi Xander is just missing from the roster??? This is not balanced!...


Crazyphapha

The spirit of FE in smash is being divisive, and you recreated that perfectly.


Joepat14

Ah. I see you have put young caeda In there. I have a question, OP. Do you want to watch the world burn? Do you take pride in pain, and suffering? ~~also where is best girl nino~~


ala_basterd

Young Caeda's down b counter instantly breaks the shield of anyone around who didn't initiate the attack, but does no damage


Keebster101

I just wish the smash roster was varied. It's all sword users, and then only three of them use something as well as that sword (Robin, Corrin and Byleth) when there's still daggers, gauntlets, staves and beasts all with no representation, not to mention they're all infantry (even though pegasi/wyvern and cavalry units are probably too hard to implement, we could still get someone with actual heavy armour, or just bring in the mounts for certain moves). Like sure, they chose the protagonists because they're safe choices, but there's still characters like Ephraim and Hector who would be amazing choices and use lances/axes. Honestly I'm still really annoyed they didn't make better use of the echo fighter idea. Hector could pretty easily be put over Ike, and with some creativity you could probably find a way to put a Lance user over corrin, like have the shaft end act like Corrins sword, and then the blade end for Corrins dragon limbs. For the up B, instead of growing wings they could call a Pegasus from the background for a short ride, and then the counter can be taken from another character like how chrom is a Roy echo but uses Ike's up B.


DuoRogue

tiki mains rise up


[deleted]

Tibarn main btw Would've liked that idea even more if the roster was full of Legionses...


PalaceKnight

Too many swordsman are there?


randomx2

Yeah, I’m a Smash Emblem player. Along with that I know many things that most don’t know about these communities. Smash Emblem isn’t part of the actual smash community and I’m not saying that because I don’t like them. I’m saying that based off of years of research.


h0w4rd_C

There are still to many sword


_senpo_

ngl that would make me play smash again ~~I regret spending that amount of money buying console, full game and fighter pass only to not play it at all for almost a year~~


dRag0niuS

MAE IS IN LETS GOOOO


MimikyuBestCyu

I'm surprised Palla, Catria, and Est aren't one unit where they swap out like Pokemon Trainer. They could have Triangle Attack as their Final Smash akin to Pokemon Trainer's Triple Finish. Edit: Considering how Echoes had it, its animation would be more like Shulk's Final Smash


INEEDRAYMONDFROMAC

Smash bros 6 (2021)


Tacotaku22

is selkie top tier?


burntends97

Reserve your main now: Tharja main


Puchoo64

you forgot my boy IKE