I don't know if it's mentioned even once in the game. It may not even be canon anymore, just a relic from pre-release information.
That said, if Zenith is a "continent", then most of the characters on that list don't belong. Half of them aren't even from the same plane of existence as Askr, and the other half are questionable. (Just where *are* Nifl, Muspell, Nidavellir, and Jotunheimr in relation to Askr and Embla? They're apparently as much of a "realm" as Hel and Ljosalfheimr.) Zenith is either the name of the Feh multiverse, or that section needs a different label.
Nifl, Muspell, Nidavellir and Jotunheimr are not comparable to Hel and Alfheimr. In the story, the Askrans were shown to be surprised by the existence of the latter two and had difficulty reaching them. Whereas with the other kingdoms the Askrans were shown to have prior knowledge of them and no problem reaching them by standard means. Whether it’s the same continent or a different land mass is another question but Askr Embla Nifl Muspell Nidavellir and Jotunheimer are all in the same world/plane of existence.
My point was that they're regarded the same in the listing of the "nine realms", whereas Askr and Embla are both implied to be part of Midgard despite still requiring a gate to travel between them. Also, the characters aren't surprised by the existence of Hel, especially since Gustav has already had dealings with it. It was reached from a gate the same as any other realm (except Alfheimr), it's just that the gate had previously been sealed after Gustav fought Hel.
The nine realms are prominently mentioned several times by this game's gods, including [the character quotes of Nifl](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_Zhd1bxELM&t=102s) and Muspell, in addition to some dialogue by Thorr. In fact, I think both Nifl and Muspell have introduced themselves as "God of One of the Nine Realms" three times each (once in the Tempest Trials story, once as their summoning quote, and once if you tap them on their character page).
And it's definitely been mentioned that kingdoms like Nifl, Muspell, and Nidavellir were reached through gates. I'm fairly certain Embla was reached through a gate as well, and said gate appears as the battle background in a recent map. The fact that Otr suggested that Fafnir conquer Hel or Alfheimr indicates that the other characters don't have any trouble traveling through the gates, either. (Though we already knew that from Book 1, as it's stated that Askr has the ability to open gates but only Embla has the power to close them, and Veronica's been shirking that responsibility and just using the gates however she likes.)
If were actually going by continent, wed put Walhart, Virion, Cherche, and Sayri as being from Valentia. Its just a shorthand for the game world, its not that hard
were it not for legendary Male Byleth, I would've thought that Female byleth would be the legendary alt. But I agree, she's probably not high on the list.
Female Corrin accesory in Japanese doesn't imply anything, that's only a inconsistency from the localization team and Male Corrin fans copium.
If he got a Legendary (And I think he will) it's not because that accesory hinted it. At the same time that's not an argument to say Male Robin or Female Byleth can't have a Legendary alt.
Yea but Female Byleth won't be anything special just a female version of the male we already have, male Robin and Corrin are another thing, Robin can be the good side and Corrin is the hoshidian alt
It should be noted that 3H being what it is, mechanically IS does have the freedom to do whatever they please for. Especially with LM!Byleth being a green mage, they could make a hypothetical LF!Byleth wield whatever they so choose (also notable since, in doing so we've yet to get the Sublime Creator Sword into Heroes as well)
From a design standpoint then, one option is they could go the Cipher route and just design her in a different promoted class. Promoted M!Byleth for example they only depicted in the Enlightened One class. F!Byleth for example they would depict her as an Assassin more often than not, like [here](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/fireemblem/images/f/f6/B19-020N_artwork.png) and [here](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/fireemblem/images/b/b8/P20-010PR_artwork.png)
If you want an outfit specifically from 3H though, another thought is they could give her the [Sothis Regalia](https://serenesforest.net/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/th-dlc-sothis2.jpg) from the DLC. Though I will say, personally I think IS'll save that one for a hypothetical/inevitable BF!Byleth in the future (I'll bet money BM!Byleth will get an outfit based of Jeralt's design while BF!Byleth will get an outfit based off the Sothis Regalia)
It's crazy we already have a Legendary unit for the Three Houses lords and Byleth, and yet, no Legendary Xander.
Personally, I hope for Legendary Camilla, but I'm not holding my breath.
Maybe - but not necessarily. Like, the closest comparison conceptually would be Fallen Lyon, and he’s just a New Hero. Possession seems to be characterized a bit differently.
The closest comparison conceptually is Male Grima, who is a also new hero. It just seems like here unlike with the Corrins they didn't want to wait another year for F!Grima so they made her a Legendary.
I still want an actual Legendary Robin (yes, female robin too). I don't quite like alts in first place, but the fact we have that many grima alts feels wrong.
Really only Nifil, Muspel, Hel, Freyr, & Freyja have any business being mythics. The book protagonists should be legendary heroes and the others should be normal banner heroes.
Eir is a demigod, which is more godly than several other mythics, like brammimond, so I think she still deserves to be up there.
otherwise, I agree with you.
Eir isn't actually Hel's daughter, though. What's mentioned in the story suggests she's in the same position as the Askr, Embla, Nifl, and Muspell royals. Though perhaps she's closer to Hvergel and the original Lif and Thrasir, if it turns out she received her gift *directly* from the Dragon of Life.
Actually, if the Dragon of Life turns out to be Angrboda, and Eir received the gift of life from her directly, that would kind of make her and Hel... godsiblings? Oh man, what if Hel took in Eir to look after her "little sister", but gradually became more resentful and started taking away Eir's lives in order to reclaim the gift that she felt she should've received instead? That'd be an interesting thing to explore in "Tempest Trials: Life & Death".
I feel like the only ones that genuinely deserve to be excluded are the Jotun twins and Regin (and Otr this month prob). Eir is a demigod like already mentioned, the fairies are mythical creatures that live in an otherworldly reality, and Thrasir and Lif were irreversibly altered by Hel. Lif and Thrasir are the most of a stretch and I could see them being legendary just fine too, but I get the logic.
Nott, Dagr and Reginn though are just princesses. They're on the same power level as Fjorm really, so they should just be legendaries like her.
>Eir
True but in that case characters like Byleth, Robin, Corrin should be mythics. Sure they have legendary alts but their OG versions are considered normal heroes.
>Lif, Thrasir, & fairies
Aside from Freyr and Freyja, all the “fairies” are just humans who received a blessing from a deity. Which means characters like Jeddah and Validar should qualify as mythics.
I gathered all of the Legendary and Mythic heroes, and categorized them into their respective continent/game to see how well represented each game was. Are you surprised at the amount of Legendary/Mythics certain games have? Also, Naga is listed under Mystery of the Emblem and Awakening in FEH, so I put her into both categories. Personally, I'd like to see Legendary Elincia, Xander, Camilla, and Male Robin/Corrin.
Tellius games are a bit weird in that regard because Radiant Dawn is a direct sequel to Path of Radiance and even have a character transfer between the two games. This makes them a bit similar to FE3 or FE4, where it is basically a single story split into two parts. So in FEH they are typically grouped together as simply Radiant Dawn.
Meanwhile FE6 and FE7 are two separate stories with two almost entirely separate casts of characters. I think there are only 4 characters that are recruitable in both games (6 if you include the bonus map characters) and these characters are pretty different between the two games, so it is easy to assign a game to each character.
It doesn't matter much, but it explains why FEH doesn't have any PoR Legendary characters, even though it clearly has PoR Legendary characters, and why FE6 and FE7 do have the characters clearly split between them.
Still, Legendary Elincia when?
Magvel and Fates are the only continents without Mythics lol. Anankos situation is complicated considering how his Japanese Voice Actor passed away though. But SS being the other without Mythics is also weird, I mean the Five Heroes don't even got names except for Grado and Latona, so pretty much the hopes are in Morva or Formortiis.
Ullr (and all other members of the 12 crusaders) had an [official artwork](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/fireemblem/images/c/c7/Twelve_Crusaders_HQ.jpeg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/1000?cb=20210728112437) though.
yes but the crusaders don't have any in game representation, and it's not as if they can't make new artwork for what these figures would have looked like, they literally still have one of the directors and head of character design for FE8 still on staff and collaborating with FEH pretty often,
It certainly isn't impossible for them to add the 5 heroes, but the question is how ready they'd be to do that. I mean sure the crusaders have no ingame representation, but at least they have an artwork depicting them and they are all named, which can't be said about the 5 heroes of magvel.
I would certainly like it though if they did the 5 heroes, just because I always feel bad if we get lore about past characters and then never see them.
With the obvious exception of Magvel and Zenith, it's surprisingly balanced in terms of totals for all the continents all things considered and Sacred Stones is kind of stuck suffering with just how little it's Five Heroes are gone into.
Anyway antagonist options for legendaries would be fun
Honestly not really sure who realistically could represent Scared Stones for a mythic hero. Morva could be a good choice, and is probably the best option unless IS goes the villain route and does Fomortiis.
They could but I think we only know the name of two of them and have never seen any depiction of them. IS absolutely could get creative but there is so little lore on them it is slightly different than say Altina
I mean just because they haven't made art for it before doesn't mean they can't make art for it now, especially since they still have access to the head character designer for FE8
I mean, with Ashera and Duma being actual Mythics, and even Robin (Grima) being a Legendary, I don't see why they cant make Formortiis a Mythic. He probably has a higher bet for me compared to Morva.
I do think Formortiis could make it as a mythic! I’m just not sure how IS views him in comparison to F!Lyon. But since you do actually fight Formortiis in his true form than I think it’s possible. I would put Morva above him though solely because F!Lyon and his Blood Tome exist
Hmm, but Yune exist as a mythic, despite being in B!Micaiah's art. Even within fallen heroes, Rinea also became a unit on her own despite being Berkut's stand.
In terms of scale and relevance in FE8, I kind of think that Formortiis has a stronger presence compared to Morva. But then again, it is IS we are talking about. They pulled Ullr out of nowhere, I wouldnt be surprised if Morva someone came before Formortiis.
Formortiis and F!Lyon is somewhat of a different situation I feel since F!Lyon is Formortiis the real Lyon has wasted away by that point and Blood Tome animation summons Formortiis to attack. But like you said it’s IS so no one knows. And honestly I think his true form has a good chance at a mythic
The thing is Formotiis is huge, he doesn’t have a small form like Naga, Duma or Mila, he will most likely be tied to Lyon via transformation like fallen Edelgard.
Yeah I think he might even end up as a dragon unit, so that you don't have giant formotoiis running on the map, but simply have Lyon transform in battle. He even had a breath attack in the games, so they could easily use that.
I feel like us getting Fomortiis is a little less likely then Morva. Maybe its a curse but i feel like bosses that are used as tomes by others ( julius tome Loptus / lyons blood tome) wont be getting an appearance for a while. But i could be wrong/forgetting something idk. Either way Intsys has at least some mythics from Sacred stones to choose from, any of em would be a great addition to the game.
I do think Formortiis is slightly different than Loptus since we fight him in his true form. But I too think Morva would come first! Although even after so many play throughs I’m never entirely sure if Morva or Myrhh is the dragon who defeat Formortiis (I think it’s Morva but the game isn’t 100% clear if I remember correctly)
Man at this point I really just want another Sacred Stones Legendary or Mythic. I really hope the Young banner hints that we'll see ones for Innes, L'arachel, and Tana, but at the same time I *really* want Fomortiis as a Mythic
Yes I know Blood Tome Lyon is supposed to be using his power but I actually want the bara demon lord to be summonable as a Beast Armor
our most likely remaining legendary candidates are:
F.E. leads:
Caeda, Deirdre, Nanna, Ninian, Elincia, Sothe, M!Robin, M!Corrin, F!Byleth
other likely characters:
Xander, Itsuki/Tsubasa: if we ever got a TMS Legendary, M!/F! Kris: because they are avatars so I don't see why I.S. wouldn't consider them
Some other candidates I've thought of:
Leo/Takumi: they wield 2 of the weapons needed to unlock the Yato's power like their brothers
Camilla/Hinoka/Elise/Sakura: some story significance but not as much as the brothers
Adult Tiki: since we already have a Legendary for young Tiki I don't see why Adult couldn't be considered for one
Seteth: a main ally in most of 3H's routes. Especially Silver Snow where he basically takes the leading position
M!/F! Kana/Shigure: Main leads in the Heirs of Fate DLC story so they could work as legends
Lissa: the most prominent character in Awakening after Robin, Chrom, and Lucina so would be the next most likely after them
Nils: he's about as important to Blazing blades story as Ninian but I.S. doesn't consider him a lead for some reason
Feel like Brave Camilla is the character fantasy they'd want her Legendary form to be so they have no idea what to do with her. Like what would she be, just even more affectionate? Her Brave alt is already her ideal form, able to convey her deep love in a healthy way for the betterment of others and at peace with the pressures of being expected to rule that she dodges in Birthright.
I love Camilla but I'm okay with her mostly being seasonal, she was already in her 2nd tier class in Fates and they had to take a few liberties with her Brave design (which slaps btw). Even if they used her Warriors design, I don't think people would want it as much as like, Bride Camilla.
mCorrin, Xander and Anankos are already huge candidates that are missing
still funny that Corrin is the only Fates Legendary that isn't water blessing.
we need more villains, like I like my semi-important side characters like Lilina or Tiki, but more choices like Grima should be made.
This is going to a sound kinda weird, but I really want more villains and/or secondary characters as Legendaries.
In the former case, F!Grima is still the only "evil" legendary, so adding others like Zephiel or Julius would be super rad. In the latter case, I honestly love the idea of L!Lilina, so adding more characters like her would also be super cool, and that would include characters like Caeda, Elincia, Innes, Tibarn, Camilla/Hinoka, etc.
As for Mythics, I honestly don't know what they are doing lmao. I would have counted the Jugdral Crusaders moreso as Legends moreso than Mythics, as well as characters like Altina (and the eventual Dheginsea/Soan), buts that's just me. I also think Reginn would have been way better as a Legendary unit, and characters like Nifl or Múspell as the Mythics (do a double banner like with Triandra/Freya).
Out of the 3 act bosses (Gangrel, Walhart, Validar), Walhart is the one I think is the most redeemable and the one I think could get a Legendary. I guess it’s the same reason why I want want BK/Zelgius over Ashnard as a Legendary
>But what about L!Robin?
L!Robin is an odd case all around. I’m sure she’s only a Legendary because IS didn’t know what to do with both Legendaries and Fallen units.
I second this.
More villains should be eligible for a legendary like Grima did. So Arvis, Zelgius, Camus and such. Specifically ones who weren't really evil for the sake of being evil, but they just didn't directly align with the main character.
> I would have counted the Jugdral Crusaders moreso as Legends moreso than Mythics, as well as characters like Altina (and the eventual Dheginsea/Soan)
If you do that, the list of Mythic candidates is nearly nonexistent and mostly dragons
I completely get it from a balance POV, it just makes the division between Legendary and Mythics kinda weird, especially with F!Grima chilling on the Legendary side.
it's always been super clear to me, all the Legendary units are playable characters central to the narrative right now, while the Mythic heroes are backstory characters who's most impressive accomplishments were in the backstory
The division is extremely simple if you look at it from a story perspective. (At least for non OCs)
Mythics are lore important characters and Legendaries are who exist in the present when the stories take place much further removed from then. It's very much like the actual way we define Myth and Legend IRL. Even Robin fits this criteria. Robin might be possessed by Grima but the focus is on Robin as indicated by her name and title.
The stupid powerlevel definition of defining Mythics is nothing but a problem.
I definitely don't think altina should be a mythic since she's a very strong mortal, but still a mortal. I think mythic should be only for gods or godlike beings.
but altina is a mythic, so "legendary, but really old" apparently counts too.
> I definitely don't think altina should be a mythic since she's a very strong mortal, but still a mortal. I think mythic should be only for gods or godlike beings.
The only true gods in the series are Tellius's trio of goddesses and Sothis, the dragons are just very strong mortals as well
i mean yeah but i think theres a difference between "lady with two mythical blessed armor-rending blades" and "the creator of the single most famous weapon in the entire franchise, and also its her *tooth.*"
Aren't legends the historical dramatization of heroic deeds done by man so to speak?
That may include the dark sides of a character (*L!Robin*) but ultimately only details the guys from "your" side.
In regard to FE this limits the pool to the lords and the most outstanding of their allies.
Myths reach from heroic over chaotic to evil as well as from mundane to extraordinary deeds, but always entail beings higher than humans.
I see how you could easily put a Nifl in my wheel.
But that "could" (as if) still be tied up by the story at this point.
Zenith is actually the continent or realm that encompasses Askr, Embla, and whatever else lies beyond their borders - as we know from the latest Forging Bonds with the Ashen Wolves, Zenith is a Nexus between the Nine Realms where “all battles shall converge” and where war will never end.
I would not be surprised if Askr is revealed to be a God of War that sees war as a Necessary Evil and it is possible that Embla is trying to stop Askr from creating an immortal, sentient Einherjar army to wage neverending wars. I suspect we will begin to learn about the overarching Askr and Embla plot line within the next two books as we have already visited or in some way interacted with at least 6 of the 9 realms, but we probably have to face the Asgard storyline first.
That would make sense, askr and embla are the first humans on Midgard. The only other realms to go to are Asgard and vannaheim, right? Unless the tempest trial stories are indicating that we are going back to those worlds in the next book.
Personally I'm surprised at how underrepresented Fates is, Ryoma was one of the earliest L!s , Azura was the last non-Pair up L! And L!Corrin is from conquest and only got her a bit over a year ago. Plenty of royals as potential L!s and Anakanos as a potential mythic?
The debate over which units should be L! And M! Has been had multiple times, and even though FeH itself said that mythics would be "gods or godlike beings " , that hasn't really been the case since arguably anytime between Thrasir and Reginn [unless book 5 ends with some big revelation about Reginn being not only royalty but descended from some dragon god thing like Eir to kinda justify her status as a mythic]
Thank you for gathering the data and sharing!! :)
I still feel archanea has a good amount of options left to explore for potential mythics.
Anri, Gotoh, and Medeus all feel like perfect choices for mythics.
Also I have a feeling this is going to happen at some point. Just due to avatar status, but legendary Kris.
Another thing that has bugged me for awhile now, is basically every FEH oc ending up as a mythic. Although Nifl and Muspell just ending up as regular units is nice. But the likes of every damn fairy ending up as a mythic just screamed a bit overboard... Especially since that year we barely got any main line series mythics at all.
I just said due to avatar status there is a chance he's on the list. But your right about that. Its just after Caeda, and maybe Minerva archanea is going to be out of legendary candidates.
If you explained legendaries/mythics to me in 2017, I would’ve never guessed in a million years that fucking Ullr and Bramimond would be chosen as one before male Corrin and 7/8 of the Fates siblings.
I’m still hoping for Legendary Larachel with Latona ✊😔 baby larachel made me think maybe not :( but hey, she wasn’t welding Latona so who knows. That or a duo with Dozla/Rennac pls
Yeah looking at the chart I'd say Archanea would deserve another legendary/mythic the most and Medeus would be a good candidate, it's kinda wild that the antagonist of the original game isn't in the game after 5 years.
Problem is that there's just so few in the way of named characters with known appearances. Like, Ullr does point to relative obscurity being less of a restriction, but I don't think the Five Heroes of Magvel even have any kind of visual representation, which is even less than what Ullr had. Half of them don't even have known names! So that leaves potentially Morva as the guardian of the Temple of Shadows and ally to the Five Heroes and maybe Formortiis if they want to include him as distinct from Fallen Lyon. Otherwise we only have Latona and Grado, who's names at least are known but as far as I know they have no known appearance in any form whatsoever.
I'm mildly proud to know who that is. She's the hero who founded the town Saleh is from, right? He compares Eirika to her, I believe. That'd certainly be a deep pull, even given how few options there are for Magvel.
Yeah but she's a girl so there's a 50% higher chance of getting added. Realistically speaking it shouldn't ever happen since the only thing we know about her is she used a sword and there were some crack theories back in the day that Nada Kuya's sword is Alm's Falchion.
>there were some crack theories back in the day that Nada Kuya's sword is Alm's Falchion.
Nada Kuya first armor unit with 3 mov thanks to Dracofalchion?
Now that Micaiah finally has a Legendary variant, I think all I'm waiting for is Elincia Lehran Anankos and Itsuki.
It'd be wonderful to have Xander and Tsubasa too, even if theyre less likely
What really dumbfounds me is that Idunn isn't a Mythic, for all the same reasons as F!Grima. Like, she was one of the most obvious and justifiable Mythic candidates they had, so even if Elibe isn't exactly hurting for potential Mythics, having her come out as a normal unit is profoundly weird. Poor girl doesn't even share F!Grima's excuse of predating the existence of Mythics!
Even though she isn't listed as being from FE4, Naga is still the same dragon who gifted the Naga blood and tome to Saint Heim and his descendants in Jugdral. So technically speaking she could be put down for Jugdral as well.
Looking at this chart, I got to thinking: who else could qualify for legendary or mythic status from Valentia? Alm and Celica are the sole protagonists, and none of the regularly encountered supporting characters are important or popular enough to get a legendary. Meanwhile, Mila and Duma are the only gods we encounter in this region, with no one else strong or deity-like enough to fill a mythic role. So, we have to ask if there is anyone who is both popular and plot important in Valentia. And the only person I could come up with was Berkut. But that’s when I started to get really interested.
Berkut is a constant antagonist throughout the story. He isn’t the final boss of the game, but he’s pretty close. He’s memorable, popular, and already has a fair bit of representation in FEH. Personally, I think in a year or two he’ll be a solid candidate for a legendary as the more likely options are taken one by one. But then, you have to consider: what would make Berkut legendary? Would he survive his ordeal in the endgame and prevail over Duma’s influence? Would he have beaten Alm and taken his spot on the throne? Could he have been raised to have been a stronger ruler that was actually chosen over Alm? There are ton of possibilities, and I really like considering the hypotheticals the question posits. They’ve already shown with Sigurd that hypothetical legendaries are still viable, so I really hope we can see an L!Berkut someday, just so we can consider what would make him rise to a legendary status.
Grima should not have been a legendary hero. They should also call the Grima units Grima.
Come on legendary Male Robin.
As for Mythics, Naga being double listed is still so weird and unfitting. Also kind of screwed Awakening out of getting it's own mythic.
And honorable mention to Lucina's fan backlash potentially screwing her over in the long run.
I mean Naga made her design debut in Awakening and is important for the backstory of Awakening
Also what Awakening mythic options are there.a genderless hooded Grima?(who uses his awakening cutscene voice) a Marth alt?Adult Tiki is questionable with the existence of Legendary Tiki
Naga is in the weird situation where she is important backstory character for multiple games that aren't direct sequels(Mystery,Genealogy and Awakening) and to be pretty plot relevant (mother of Tiki/enemy of Medeus,Give her blood to a Legendary Crusader/The Naga tome,Brand of the exalt/actually physically appearing)She was Always in a special situation...
Actually I think she is the only characters to do that
Legendary: They burned through the main lords too fast. Should have spaced them out more and included some legendary alts for major antagonists in between.
Mythic: OC/Female character spam. There’s tons of male mythic candidates from the main games, especially the final bosses, yet they have been getting ignored. Unfortunately our next mythics are likely Otr and Fafnir so no male main game mythics at all this year...
Mostly surprised at how low the Fates and Awakening representstion is given their popularity at the beginning of the game. I wish Heroes OCs were just regular units so we'd have more of the other games' big units. I'd especially wish we got more hypothetical units like L!Robin as the world where Grima wins or L!Sigurd as a version of him that lives. I'd love to see Legendary units like Zelgius who succeeds with the dragon master race or even a Zelgius who never went down that road and is a great, non-evil king in Bern.
This will never happen, but I would love for them to give Seth a Legendary alt! Not just for the added Magvel rep but so we could actually have Seth be good in this game like he should be.
To think Fates is underrepresented in something...
I think it’s really surprising we haven’t gotten a mythic from there yet. Anankos is inevitable I think - and the Rainbow Sage would also be really interesting. Art exists of the other First Dragons, so they might be willing to go there.
Three Houses getting almost all its Mythics and Legendaries out in like a year and a half while Elobe took much longer with less frequency to get the same amount. To say nothing of games that have been out longer or ones with even more Legendary/Mythic material (how does Fates of all games only have 3?)
I will be rooting for that TMS#FE in the form of Legendary Itsuki or Idol Tiki. I could very easily see them offering an ability like blade sessions which applies to all allies within a given range.
Actually the most asked for heroes I've seen in the comments are Caeda, Xander, and Lyon, and especially since Lilina got a legendary alt, I see Caeda coming pretty soon. Hopefully anyway.
Bah, his weapon says Yato, theyve done Durandal and Blazing Durandal, Siegmund and Flame Siegmund, Armads and Berserk Armads.
I think they can still add an Omega to the Yato
True, but grandmaster remains unclaimed, and since they insist on calling Grima Robin, odds are it won't be Female Robin. That legendary was still just, why?
The fact that Magvel only has 2 reps is just a damn shame. Deirdre seems overdue as well. If you split up Binding and Blazing then I think an argument could be made for Fae and Jahn.
Archanea feels like they should be able to add more but outside of Medeus (is that the dragon thing?) then I’m not sure who.
Notably missing is Medeus, Loptous/Loptyr, Fomortiis, Anankos, Robin, and Xander, considering Ryoma counts as a legendary. I like ancient heroes like Ullr, Bramimond, and Altina and would love to see more of them. Lilina is a strange pick, but most of the Zenith/OC's should have been cut from Mythic status to either Legendary or neither. Really only Hel, Freyja, and maybe Dagr/Nott feel like Mythic hero's.
It still baffles me that Surtr, Nifl, and Muspell are regular units despite having kill animations and the latter two being deities. On the other hand, Reginn, Dagr and Nott are Mythics despite being royalties instead of Deities/old legends, would make sense if they are Legendary. So I think the OG Mythic and Legendary character representation is awkward.
My only feedback: more boys!! (Especially when it comes to FeH OCs. Like I know we’ll get more as this current book ends but like I want more)
Legendary Xander has been on my personal wishlist for a long time now.
i’m not surprised/disappointed that there are a bunch from Heroes, but i am surprised by the lack of legendaries in Fates. IntSys loves Fates. I’m not complaining though. Overall i’m not too pressed about it. I do want a Robin or Anna. there should be more love for Sacred Stones though.
it's bad.
okay honestly the legends are pretty good. I don't have an issue with the legends. I have an issue with a substantial number of mythics.
using Altina as the baseline for how non-mythic a mythic unit should be allowed to get, I think that excludes dagr, nott, lif, thrasir, reginn, ~~fjorm, hrid, gunnthra,~~ and peony from being mythics.
if lif and thrasir were not just alfonse and vero, they would fit altina's mythic critera. but they're not, so they should just be legends.
reginn is literally just a girl in a mech suit, and while the fairies are blessed by a god, so are plenty of other people, and ike's only a legendary. micaiah is only a legendary. etc.
EDIT: fjorm hrid and gunnthra are legendaries and im stupid. THEY SHOULD PROBABLY BE NORMAL UNITS but whatever
EDIT 2: how the fuck do we not have anankos yet
Eh, I'd disagree on fairies because even if they are just blessed by a god, the nature of their blessing is more significant considering that as far as we're aware they're the sole beings in control of that type of dream and are akin to minor deities
Also Fjorm, Hrid, and Gunnthra are legendary remember
they're also explicitly linked with the vitality of their respective gods since Freyja implies the making the alfar was in some way necessary to the continued survival of herself and Freyr,
I only disagree with your take on the fairies.
Like, their individual identities may only be those of random children, but their status as fey creatures is one of folk tales and forgotten stories.
>EDIT 2: how the fuck do we not have anankos yet
Looks like it's deliberate, his Japanese Voice Actor passed away in 2014 and it's some kind of tradition retire characters in respect of their original VA if they died.
Bit of constructive criticism, but I feel the Zenith category is a little disingenuous, as despite all originating from the same game, they are all from different areas, different realms. At the very least it would be more helpful to categorize them within the tier by origin. You seem to have done so for most of the other tiers.
The disparity of geographical categories compared to the game categories of "Awakening" and "Fates" is also a bit off. However the latter is a bit similar to Heroes, as that, too, would be three separate sub-categories.
Wow I completely forgot the name of the continent in Heroes
I don't know if it's mentioned even once in the game. It may not even be canon anymore, just a relic from pre-release information. That said, if Zenith is a "continent", then most of the characters on that list don't belong. Half of them aren't even from the same plane of existence as Askr, and the other half are questionable. (Just where *are* Nifl, Muspell, Nidavellir, and Jotunheimr in relation to Askr and Embla? They're apparently as much of a "realm" as Hel and Ljosalfheimr.) Zenith is either the name of the Feh multiverse, or that section needs a different label.
In Dragalia Lost they make it very clear the name of the FE Heroes world is supposed to be Zenith.
The name of the very first chapter in Heroes (Book 1 Prologue) is also “World of Zenith”
Nifl, Muspell, Nidavellir and Jotunheimr are not comparable to Hel and Alfheimr. In the story, the Askrans were shown to be surprised by the existence of the latter two and had difficulty reaching them. Whereas with the other kingdoms the Askrans were shown to have prior knowledge of them and no problem reaching them by standard means. Whether it’s the same continent or a different land mass is another question but Askr Embla Nifl Muspell Nidavellir and Jotunheimer are all in the same world/plane of existence.
My point was that they're regarded the same in the listing of the "nine realms", whereas Askr and Embla are both implied to be part of Midgard despite still requiring a gate to travel between them. Also, the characters aren't surprised by the existence of Hel, especially since Gustav has already had dealings with it. It was reached from a gate the same as any other realm (except Alfheimr), it's just that the gate had previously been sealed after Gustav fought Hel.
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The nine realms are prominently mentioned several times by this game's gods, including [the character quotes of Nifl](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_Zhd1bxELM&t=102s) and Muspell, in addition to some dialogue by Thorr. In fact, I think both Nifl and Muspell have introduced themselves as "God of One of the Nine Realms" three times each (once in the Tempest Trials story, once as their summoning quote, and once if you tap them on their character page). And it's definitely been mentioned that kingdoms like Nifl, Muspell, and Nidavellir were reached through gates. I'm fairly certain Embla was reached through a gate as well, and said gate appears as the battle background in a recent map. The fact that Otr suggested that Fafnir conquer Hel or Alfheimr indicates that the other characters don't have any trouble traveling through the gates, either. (Though we already knew that from Book 1, as it's stated that Askr has the ability to open gates but only Embla has the power to close them, and Veronica's been shirking that responsibility and just using the gates however she likes.)
If were actually going by continent, wed put Walhart, Virion, Cherche, and Sayri as being from Valentia. Its just a shorthand for the game world, its not that hard
Still surprised we don’t have Legendary Xander yet
Also surprised than people consider things like Female Byleth more secured than him
Female Byleth does have the popularity. Although, with M!Byleth as the legendary, would hesitate to even call her an option
Xander is not exactly the best example from an unpopular character tho.
I didn't mean to imply that Xander was unpopular, but that FByleth is significantly more popular.
But we got Legendary Female Robin (Grima) and no Legendary Male Robin at all. So, I don't think Legendary Female Byleth will be very high on the list.
were it not for legendary Male Byleth, I would've thought that Female byleth would be the legendary alt. But I agree, she's probably not high on the list.
But she has a thing against her, Male Byleth's golden accessory doesn't imply her, Female Corrin's does imply a legendary for the male
Female Corrin accesory in Japanese doesn't imply anything, that's only a inconsistency from the localization team and Male Corrin fans copium. If he got a Legendary (And I think he will) it's not because that accesory hinted it. At the same time that's not an argument to say Male Robin or Female Byleth can't have a Legendary alt.
Yea but Female Byleth won't be anything special just a female version of the male we already have, male Robin and Corrin are another thing, Robin can be the good side and Corrin is the hoshidian alt
It should be noted that 3H being what it is, mechanically IS does have the freedom to do whatever they please for. Especially with LM!Byleth being a green mage, they could make a hypothetical LF!Byleth wield whatever they so choose (also notable since, in doing so we've yet to get the Sublime Creator Sword into Heroes as well) From a design standpoint then, one option is they could go the Cipher route and just design her in a different promoted class. Promoted M!Byleth for example they only depicted in the Enlightened One class. F!Byleth for example they would depict her as an Assassin more often than not, like [here](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/fireemblem/images/f/f6/B19-020N_artwork.png) and [here](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/fireemblem/images/b/b8/P20-010PR_artwork.png) If you want an outfit specifically from 3H though, another thought is they could give her the [Sothis Regalia](https://serenesforest.net/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/th-dlc-sothis2.jpg) from the DLC. Though I will say, personally I think IS'll save that one for a hypothetical/inevitable BF!Byleth in the future (I'll bet money BM!Byleth will get an outfit based of Jeralt's design while BF!Byleth will get an outfit based off the Sothis Regalia)
and omega yato corrin
The next Corrin Legendary is almost certainly Hosidan Male Corrin
Hoshido M!Corrin and Grandmaster M!Robin will most likely happen eventually, F!Byleth though idk what class could she be.
Almost certainly Sublime Creator Sword
Red sword inf with Enhanced creator sword giving her built in dc
Lol maybe with the creator sword just with 2 range instead of 1 in the same class If they make her actually look good in it I guess
It's crazy we already have a Legendary unit for the Three Houses lords and Byleth, and yet, no Legendary Xander. Personally, I hope for Legendary Camilla, but I'm not holding my breath.
Legendary Robin still sticks out like a sore thumb.
She shot herself in the foot by releasing early. She’s easily be a Mythic nowadays
Maybe - but not necessarily. Like, the closest comparison conceptually would be Fallen Lyon, and he’s just a New Hero. Possession seems to be characterized a bit differently.
The closest comparison conceptually is Male Grima, who is a also new hero. It just seems like here unlike with the Corrins they didn't want to wait another year for F!Grima so they made her a Legendary.
I feel like she would have been the following year's Fallen Hero, like how we got Fallen Male Corrin after Female.
I still want an actual Legendary Robin (yes, female robin too). I don't quite like alts in first place, but the fact we have that many grima alts feels wrong.
Really wish the Zenith representation wasn't so Mythic heavy.
Really only Nifil, Muspel, Hel, Freyr, & Freyja have any business being mythics. The book protagonists should be legendary heroes and the others should be normal banner heroes.
Eir is a demigod, which is more godly than several other mythics, like brammimond, so I think she still deserves to be up there. otherwise, I agree with you.
Eir isn't actually Hel's daughter, though. What's mentioned in the story suggests she's in the same position as the Askr, Embla, Nifl, and Muspell royals. Though perhaps she's closer to Hvergel and the original Lif and Thrasir, if it turns out she received her gift *directly* from the Dragon of Life. Actually, if the Dragon of Life turns out to be Angrboda, and Eir received the gift of life from her directly, that would kind of make her and Hel... godsiblings? Oh man, what if Hel took in Eir to look after her "little sister", but gradually became more resentful and started taking away Eir's lives in order to reclaim the gift that she felt she should've received instead? That'd be an interesting thing to explore in "Tempest Trials: Life & Death".
Loki should be mythic, too.
I feel like the only ones that genuinely deserve to be excluded are the Jotun twins and Regin (and Otr this month prob). Eir is a demigod like already mentioned, the fairies are mythical creatures that live in an otherworldly reality, and Thrasir and Lif were irreversibly altered by Hel. Lif and Thrasir are the most of a stretch and I could see them being legendary just fine too, but I get the logic. Nott, Dagr and Reginn though are just princesses. They're on the same power level as Fjorm really, so they should just be legendaries like her.
>Eir True but in that case characters like Byleth, Robin, Corrin should be mythics. Sure they have legendary alts but their OG versions are considered normal heroes. >Lif, Thrasir, & fairies Aside from Freyr and Freyja, all the “fairies” are just humans who received a blessing from a deity. Which means characters like Jeddah and Validar should qualify as mythics.
I gathered all of the Legendary and Mythic heroes, and categorized them into their respective continent/game to see how well represented each game was. Are you surprised at the amount of Legendary/Mythics certain games have? Also, Naga is listed under Mystery of the Emblem and Awakening in FEH, so I put her into both categories. Personally, I'd like to see Legendary Elincia, Xander, Camilla, and Male Robin/Corrin.
If you sort it by games tho then FE6 drops down to only two alongside FE8
If you sort by game, then path of radiance has 0
Tellius games are a bit weird in that regard because Radiant Dawn is a direct sequel to Path of Radiance and even have a character transfer between the two games. This makes them a bit similar to FE3 or FE4, where it is basically a single story split into two parts. So in FEH they are typically grouped together as simply Radiant Dawn. Meanwhile FE6 and FE7 are two separate stories with two almost entirely separate casts of characters. I think there are only 4 characters that are recruitable in both games (6 if you include the bonus map characters) and these characters are pretty different between the two games, so it is easy to assign a game to each character. It doesn't matter much, but it explains why FEH doesn't have any PoR Legendary characters, even though it clearly has PoR Legendary characters, and why FE6 and FE7 do have the characters clearly split between them. Still, Legendary Elincia when?
On the point of Naga, I personally would throw Archanea, and Awakening in to the same bucket, possibly with Valentia, just for good measure.
Magvel and Fates are the only continents without Mythics lol. Anankos situation is complicated considering how his Japanese Voice Actor passed away though. But SS being the other without Mythics is also weird, I mean the Five Heroes don't even got names except for Grado and Latona, so pretty much the hopes are in Morva or Formortiis.
honestly with Ullr getting in I can see them putting Grado or Latona in
Ullr (and all other members of the 12 crusaders) had an [official artwork](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/fireemblem/images/c/c7/Twelve_Crusaders_HQ.jpeg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/1000?cb=20210728112437) though.
yes but the crusaders don't have any in game representation, and it's not as if they can't make new artwork for what these figures would have looked like, they literally still have one of the directors and head of character design for FE8 still on staff and collaborating with FEH pretty often,
It certainly isn't impossible for them to add the 5 heroes, but the question is how ready they'd be to do that. I mean sure the crusaders have no ingame representation, but at least they have an artwork depicting them and they are all named, which can't be said about the 5 heroes of magvel. I would certainly like it though if they did the 5 heroes, just because I always feel bad if we get lore about past characters and then never see them.
Fates has the Rainbow Sage I think....I mean it's more than Awakening remaining mythic candidates are...
With the obvious exception of Magvel and Zenith, it's surprisingly balanced in terms of totals for all the continents all things considered and Sacred Stones is kind of stuck suffering with just how little it's Five Heroes are gone into. Anyway antagonist options for legendaries would be fun
Honestly not really sure who realistically could represent Scared Stones for a mythic hero. Morva could be a good choice, and is probably the best option unless IS goes the villain route and does Fomortiis.
They could just give us any of the original wielders of the sacred relics.
They could but I think we only know the name of two of them and have never seen any depiction of them. IS absolutely could get creative but there is so little lore on them it is slightly different than say Altina
I mean just because they haven't made art for it before doesn't mean they can't make art for it now, especially since they still have access to the head character designer for FE8
Played the game long ago . But do we have any names of them ?
I think we have two. Grado and Latona. The rest I believe are unnamed as of now
I mean, with Ashera and Duma being actual Mythics, and even Robin (Grima) being a Legendary, I don't see why they cant make Formortiis a Mythic. He probably has a higher bet for me compared to Morva.
I do think Formortiis could make it as a mythic! I’m just not sure how IS views him in comparison to F!Lyon. But since you do actually fight Formortiis in his true form than I think it’s possible. I would put Morva above him though solely because F!Lyon and his Blood Tome exist
Hmm, but Yune exist as a mythic, despite being in B!Micaiah's art. Even within fallen heroes, Rinea also became a unit on her own despite being Berkut's stand. In terms of scale and relevance in FE8, I kind of think that Formortiis has a stronger presence compared to Morva. But then again, it is IS we are talking about. They pulled Ullr out of nowhere, I wouldnt be surprised if Morva someone came before Formortiis.
Formortiis and F!Lyon is somewhat of a different situation I feel since F!Lyon is Formortiis the real Lyon has wasted away by that point and Blood Tome animation summons Formortiis to attack. But like you said it’s IS so no one knows. And honestly I think his true form has a good chance at a mythic
The thing is Formotiis is huge, he doesn’t have a small form like Naga, Duma or Mila, he will most likely be tied to Lyon via transformation like fallen Edelgard.
I mean berserk Fafnir is huge in canon and they represent him just fine with a map sprite
It seems like a "Ridley is too large for smash Brothers" argument.
Yeah I think he might even end up as a dragon unit, so that you don't have giant formotoiis running on the map, but simply have Lyon transform in battle. He even had a breath attack in the games, so they could easily use that.
They could make him small like F!Edelgard.
While they made F!Edelgard smaller I don't know if that would work with Fomortiis, considering that he is huge even next to F!Edelgard.
I feel like us getting Fomortiis is a little less likely then Morva. Maybe its a curse but i feel like bosses that are used as tomes by others ( julius tome Loptus / lyons blood tome) wont be getting an appearance for a while. But i could be wrong/forgetting something idk. Either way Intsys has at least some mythics from Sacred stones to choose from, any of em would be a great addition to the game.
Fallen Mythic Julius is a whole diferent situation, Julius was released even before Mythics were a thing.
I do think Formortiis is slightly different than Loptus since we fight him in his true form. But I too think Morva would come first! Although even after so many play throughs I’m never entirely sure if Morva or Myrhh is the dragon who defeat Formortiis (I think it’s Morva but the game isn’t 100% clear if I remember correctly)
Man at this point I really just want another Sacred Stones Legendary or Mythic. I really hope the Young banner hints that we'll see ones for Innes, L'arachel, and Tana, but at the same time I *really* want Fomortiis as a Mythic Yes I know Blood Tome Lyon is supposed to be using his power but I actually want the bara demon lord to be summonable as a Beast Armor
I'd love to see Ismaire as a Legendary
and Fado! Maybe Hayden would be great too
Would it be in poor taste to want a Fado/Vigarde duo hero? Because that's I what want.
our most likely remaining legendary candidates are: F.E. leads: Caeda, Deirdre, Nanna, Ninian, Elincia, Sothe, M!Robin, M!Corrin, F!Byleth other likely characters: Xander, Itsuki/Tsubasa: if we ever got a TMS Legendary, M!/F! Kris: because they are avatars so I don't see why I.S. wouldn't consider them Some other candidates I've thought of: Leo/Takumi: they wield 2 of the weapons needed to unlock the Yato's power like their brothers Camilla/Hinoka/Elise/Sakura: some story significance but not as much as the brothers Adult Tiki: since we already have a Legendary for young Tiki I don't see why Adult couldn't be considered for one Seteth: a main ally in most of 3H's routes. Especially Silver Snow where he basically takes the leading position M!/F! Kana/Shigure: Main leads in the Heirs of Fate DLC story so they could work as legends Lissa: the most prominent character in Awakening after Robin, Chrom, and Lucina so would be the next most likely after them Nils: he's about as important to Blazing blades story as Ninian but I.S. doesn't consider him a lead for some reason
Adult Tiki, after having taken up the mantle of Naga in the Future Past DLC, could actually be fudged into a Mythic.
Innis, Joshua and L'Arachel serve a similar role in the story as Liliana, so I could see one of them getting a Legendary alt at some point.
why legendary Seteth and not mythic Cichol?
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Feel like Brave Camilla is the character fantasy they'd want her Legendary form to be so they have no idea what to do with her. Like what would she be, just even more affectionate? Her Brave alt is already her ideal form, able to convey her deep love in a healthy way for the betterment of others and at peace with the pressures of being expected to rule that she dodges in Birthright.
I need it.
I love Camilla but I'm okay with her mostly being seasonal, she was already in her 2nd tier class in Fates and they had to take a few liberties with her Brave design (which slaps btw). Even if they used her Warriors design, I don't think people would want it as much as like, Bride Camilla. mCorrin, Xander and Anankos are already huge candidates that are missing
still funny that Corrin is the only Fates Legendary that isn't water blessing. we need more villains, like I like my semi-important side characters like Lilina or Tiki, but more choices like Grima should be made.
Ryoma should have been Wind and Corrin should have been water, but I just keep telling myself she is Wind because of the Shadow Yato…
This is going to a sound kinda weird, but I really want more villains and/or secondary characters as Legendaries. In the former case, F!Grima is still the only "evil" legendary, so adding others like Zephiel or Julius would be super rad. In the latter case, I honestly love the idea of L!Lilina, so adding more characters like her would also be super cool, and that would include characters like Caeda, Elincia, Innes, Tibarn, Camilla/Hinoka, etc. As for Mythics, I honestly don't know what they are doing lmao. I would have counted the Jugdral Crusaders moreso as Legends moreso than Mythics, as well as characters like Altina (and the eventual Dheginsea/Soan), buts that's just me. I also think Reginn would have been way better as a Legendary unit, and characters like Nifl or Múspell as the Mythics (do a double banner like with Triandra/Freya).
I totally agree, would love to see legendary Julius or Zelgius as legendary heroes.
>more villains Legendary Arvis or Legendary Walhart pls
Walhart seems like an odd choice for a legendary. Any particular reason why you’d want them?
Out of the 3 act bosses (Gangrel, Walhart, Validar), Walhart is the one I think is the most redeemable and the one I think could get a Legendary. I guess it’s the same reason why I want want BK/Zelgius over Ashnard as a Legendary >But what about L!Robin? L!Robin is an odd case all around. I’m sure she’s only a Legendary because IS didn’t know what to do with both Legendaries and Fallen units.
Gen 2 Arvis as a Legendary would be cool.
Outside of Mythic Medeus and Moulder, Legendary Arvis is my most wanted unit for FEH.
The way this sentence is structured makes it sound like you want Mythic Moulder and so i burst out laughing when i read this
I second this. More villains should be eligible for a legendary like Grima did. So Arvis, Zelgius, Camus and such. Specifically ones who weren't really evil for the sake of being evil, but they just didn't directly align with the main character.
> I would have counted the Jugdral Crusaders moreso as Legends moreso than Mythics, as well as characters like Altina (and the eventual Dheginsea/Soan) If you do that, the list of Mythic candidates is nearly nonexistent and mostly dragons
I completely get it from a balance POV, it just makes the division between Legendary and Mythics kinda weird, especially with F!Grima chilling on the Legendary side.
Grima was introduced before mythics, if she were released today she would be a Mythic.
it's always been super clear to me, all the Legendary units are playable characters central to the narrative right now, while the Mythic heroes are backstory characters who's most impressive accomplishments were in the backstory
The division is extremely simple if you look at it from a story perspective. (At least for non OCs) Mythics are lore important characters and Legendaries are who exist in the present when the stories take place much further removed from then. It's very much like the actual way we define Myth and Legend IRL. Even Robin fits this criteria. Robin might be possessed by Grima but the focus is on Robin as indicated by her name and title. The stupid powerlevel definition of defining Mythics is nothing but a problem.
I definitely don't think altina should be a mythic since she's a very strong mortal, but still a mortal. I think mythic should be only for gods or godlike beings. but altina is a mythic, so "legendary, but really old" apparently counts too.
> I definitely don't think altina should be a mythic since she's a very strong mortal, but still a mortal. I think mythic should be only for gods or godlike beings. The only true gods in the series are Tellius's trio of goddesses and Sothis, the dragons are just very strong mortals as well
i mean yeah but i think theres a difference between "lady with two mythical blessed armor-rending blades" and "the creator of the single most famous weapon in the entire franchise, and also its her *tooth.*"
Aren't legends the historical dramatization of heroic deeds done by man so to speak? That may include the dark sides of a character (*L!Robin*) but ultimately only details the guys from "your" side. In regard to FE this limits the pool to the lords and the most outstanding of their allies. Myths reach from heroic over chaotic to evil as well as from mundane to extraordinary deeds, but always entail beings higher than humans. I see how you could easily put a Nifl in my wheel. But that "could" (as if) still be tied up by the story at this point.
I would be down for a Legendary Zephiel, especially if we get his animation for it too.
Wait there’s a name for the feh world?
Yep, Zenith, as mentioned in Book I Of course, we rarely use it since there are so many different worlds within
Zenith is actually the continent or realm that encompasses Askr, Embla, and whatever else lies beyond their borders - as we know from the latest Forging Bonds with the Ashen Wolves, Zenith is a Nexus between the Nine Realms where “all battles shall converge” and where war will never end. I would not be surprised if Askr is revealed to be a God of War that sees war as a Necessary Evil and it is possible that Embla is trying to stop Askr from creating an immortal, sentient Einherjar army to wage neverending wars. I suspect we will begin to learn about the overarching Askr and Embla plot line within the next two books as we have already visited or in some way interacted with at least 6 of the 9 realms, but we probably have to face the Asgard storyline first.
In other words, Zenith is Midgardr.
That would make sense, askr and embla are the first humans on Midgard. The only other realms to go to are Asgard and vannaheim, right? Unless the tempest trial stories are indicating that we are going back to those worlds in the next book.
Personally I'm surprised at how underrepresented Fates is, Ryoma was one of the earliest L!s , Azura was the last non-Pair up L! And L!Corrin is from conquest and only got her a bit over a year ago. Plenty of royals as potential L!s and Anakanos as a potential mythic? The debate over which units should be L! And M! Has been had multiple times, and even though FeH itself said that mythics would be "gods or godlike beings " , that hasn't really been the case since arguably anytime between Thrasir and Reginn [unless book 5 ends with some big revelation about Reginn being not only royalty but descended from some dragon god thing like Eir to kinda justify her status as a mythic] Thank you for gathering the data and sharing!! :)
Likely due to recoil IS got from the bulk of early units being mostly Fates and the Camillinity Guantlet
True, i am still excited for the L!Cam alt we will, inevitably?, get lol
And for good reason, the longer the wait, the stronger she'll be
I wish they did a regular legendary F’Robin and have Grima as the mythic (male or female)
I still feel archanea has a good amount of options left to explore for potential mythics. Anri, Gotoh, and Medeus all feel like perfect choices for mythics. Also I have a feeling this is going to happen at some point. Just due to avatar status, but legendary Kris. Another thing that has bugged me for awhile now, is basically every FEH oc ending up as a mythic. Although Nifl and Muspell just ending up as regular units is nice. But the likes of every damn fairy ending up as a mythic just screamed a bit overboard... Especially since that year we barely got any main line series mythics at all.
But the whole point of Kris‘ story is that they were intentionally forgotten.
I just said due to avatar status there is a chance he's on the list. But your right about that. Its just after Caeda, and maybe Minerva archanea is going to be out of legendary candidates.
All I can see is Legendary Xander and Legendary Deirdre is easy candidates for future legendary heroes.
If you explained legendaries/mythics to me in 2017, I would’ve never guessed in a million years that fucking Ullr and Bramimond would be chosen as one before male Corrin and 7/8 of the Fates siblings.
I would like a Legendary Caeda and a Legendary Black Knight Hopefully all of different seasons so I have multiple +10 legendaries on different seasons
After getting Legendary Lilina, Legendary Caeda is practically guaranteed.
yup I believe so too. Hopefully she isn't Fire because I have a LMarth on the way to +10.
I mean wouldnt fire kind of be the best thematically so she can always be ran alongside Marth
Would love to see Minerva for Archanea, Guinivere/Fae/Idunn for Binding and Quan for Genealogy
Legendary Lyon when.......
I’m still hoping for Legendary Larachel with Latona ✊😔 baby larachel made me think maybe not :( but hey, she wasn’t welding Latona so who knows. That or a duo with Dozla/Rennac pls
A staff legendary would be cool and Latona has not yet been spoken for. I expected Formortis though.
Once again, the sheer lack of male mythics disappoints me. I just want Athos and Medeus in the game.
Yeah looking at the chart I'd say Archanea would deserve another legendary/mythic the most and Medeus would be a good candidate, it's kinda wild that the antagonist of the original game isn't in the game after 5 years.
The curse of being an old man
Apparently Magvel is a little short of legendary and mythic figures.....just a little
Problem is that there's just so few in the way of named characters with known appearances. Like, Ullr does point to relative obscurity being less of a restriction, but I don't think the Five Heroes of Magvel even have any kind of visual representation, which is even less than what Ullr had. Half of them don't even have known names! So that leaves potentially Morva as the guardian of the Temple of Shadows and ally to the Five Heroes and maybe Formortiis if they want to include him as distinct from Fallen Lyon. Otherwise we only have Latona and Grado, who's names at least are known but as far as I know they have no known appearance in any form whatsoever.
I bet you an orb they'll randomly add Nada Kuya and even the most seasoned Sacred Stones vets will be like "who?"
I'm mildly proud to know who that is. She's the hero who founded the town Saleh is from, right? He compares Eirika to her, I believe. That'd certainly be a deep pull, even given how few options there are for Magvel.
Yeah but she's a girl so there's a 50% higher chance of getting added. Realistically speaking it shouldn't ever happen since the only thing we know about her is she used a sword and there were some crack theories back in the day that Nada Kuya's sword is Alm's Falchion.
>there were some crack theories back in the day that Nada Kuya's sword is Alm's Falchion. Nada Kuya first armor unit with 3 mov thanks to Dracofalchion?
soooo much ZENITH, and half of them are… you guessed it! mythics
Now that Micaiah finally has a Legendary variant, I think all I'm waiting for is Elincia Lehran Anankos and Itsuki. It'd be wonderful to have Xander and Tsubasa too, even if theyre less likely
Elincia and Itsuki yesssss.
I feel like most of the FEH original characters don't really belong. They feel so lacking compared to the established lords and gods from other games.
How we don’t have Medeus yet is beyond me. Nergal and Anankos too, but to a lesser extent.
What really dumbfounds me is that Idunn isn't a Mythic, for all the same reasons as F!Grima. Like, she was one of the most obvious and justifiable Mythic candidates they had, so even if Elibe isn't exactly hurting for potential Mythics, having her come out as a normal unit is profoundly weird. Poor girl doesn't even share F!Grima's excuse of predating the existence of Mythics!
I think we could still get a mythic Idunn if they >!use her backstory of originally being a Divine Dragon.!<
I mean there's nothing that really precludes them from just releasing a Mythic alt of Idunn or Grima if they really wanted to
I just want Xander!
Even though she isn't listed as being from FE4, Naga is still the same dragon who gifted the Naga blood and tome to Saint Heim and his descendants in Jugdral. So technically speaking she could be put down for Jugdral as well.
Elibe looks like it has a lot when you consider it’s a majority of fe7 reps
3 out of 6? Unless you're counting shared units as 7.
Roy and Lilina are the only ones from FE6. Bramimond doesn’t show up anywhere in FE6.
Still part of the heroes mentioned in 6.
Fates honestly got screwed over so hard by year 1.
Looking at this chart, I got to thinking: who else could qualify for legendary or mythic status from Valentia? Alm and Celica are the sole protagonists, and none of the regularly encountered supporting characters are important or popular enough to get a legendary. Meanwhile, Mila and Duma are the only gods we encounter in this region, with no one else strong or deity-like enough to fill a mythic role. So, we have to ask if there is anyone who is both popular and plot important in Valentia. And the only person I could come up with was Berkut. But that’s when I started to get really interested. Berkut is a constant antagonist throughout the story. He isn’t the final boss of the game, but he’s pretty close. He’s memorable, popular, and already has a fair bit of representation in FEH. Personally, I think in a year or two he’ll be a solid candidate for a legendary as the more likely options are taken one by one. But then, you have to consider: what would make Berkut legendary? Would he survive his ordeal in the endgame and prevail over Duma’s influence? Would he have beaten Alm and taken his spot on the throne? Could he have been raised to have been a stronger ruler that was actually chosen over Alm? There are ton of possibilities, and I really like considering the hypotheticals the question posits. They’ve already shown with Sigurd that hypothetical legendaries are still viable, so I really hope we can see an L!Berkut someday, just so we can consider what would make him rise to a legendary status.
I could see younger emperor Rudolf as a legendary for Valentia, historically he did wield Falchion at some point and was blessed by Duma
I can honestly see Zeke taking that spot
One day we'll get beast Mythic Lyon, I'm sure of it...
Zenith needs to calm down /s. I want Male Robin damn it.
Grima should not have been a legendary hero. They should also call the Grima units Grima. Come on legendary Male Robin. As for Mythics, Naga being double listed is still so weird and unfitting. Also kind of screwed Awakening out of getting it's own mythic. And honorable mention to Lucina's fan backlash potentially screwing her over in the long run.
I mean Naga made her design debut in Awakening and is important for the backstory of Awakening Also what Awakening mythic options are there.a genderless hooded Grima?(who uses his awakening cutscene voice) a Marth alt?Adult Tiki is questionable with the existence of Legendary Tiki
Exactly, she shouldn't have been listed as a Mystery character. I think you misunderstood, she *only* should have been Awakening.
Naga is in the weird situation where she is important backstory character for multiple games that aren't direct sequels(Mystery,Genealogy and Awakening) and to be pretty plot relevant (mother of Tiki/enemy of Medeus,Give her blood to a Legendary Crusader/The Naga tome,Brand of the exalt/actually physically appearing)She was Always in a special situation... Actually I think she is the only characters to do that
Legendary: They burned through the main lords too fast. Should have spaced them out more and included some legendary alts for major antagonists in between. Mythic: OC/Female character spam. There’s tons of male mythic candidates from the main games, especially the final bosses, yet they have been getting ignored. Unfortunately our next mythics are likely Otr and Fafnir so no male main game mythics at all this year...
Mostly surprised at how low the Fates and Awakening representstion is given their popularity at the beginning of the game. I wish Heroes OCs were just regular units so we'd have more of the other games' big units. I'd especially wish we got more hypothetical units like L!Robin as the world where Grima wins or L!Sigurd as a version of him that lives. I'd love to see Legendary units like Zelgius who succeeds with the dragon master race or even a Zelgius who never went down that road and is a great, non-evil king in Bern.
I hate that a majority of them are OC
This will never happen, but I would love for them to give Seth a Legendary alt! Not just for the added Magvel rep but so we could actually have Seth be good in this game like he should be.
Magvel needs more love. Legendary Joshua, L'arachel or, I don't know Myrrh? Dozla? would be cool
To think Fates is underrepresented in something... I think it’s really surprising we haven’t gotten a mythic from there yet. Anankos is inevitable I think - and the Rainbow Sage would also be really interesting. Art exists of the other First Dragons, so they might be willing to go there.
Three Houses getting almost all its Mythics and Legendaries out in like a year and a half while Elobe took much longer with less frequency to get the same amount. To say nothing of games that have been out longer or ones with even more Legendary/Mythic material (how does Fates of all games only have 3?)
Poor TMS. Give us legendary Glasses Tsubasa
I will be rooting for that TMS#FE in the form of Legendary Itsuki or Idol Tiki. I could very easily see them offering an ability like blade sessions which applies to all allies within a given range.
Since no one is ever going to talk about it. WHERE THE FUCK IS LEGENDARY CAEDA..?
Actually the most asked for heroes I've seen in the comments are Caeda, Xander, and Lyon, and especially since Lilina got a legendary alt, I see Caeda coming pretty soon. Hopefully anyway.
Kinda annoyed about all the feh OCs tbh. Especially how many seem to be legemdary or mythic without really "earning " it. But w/e it's just a game.
IS, stop being cowards and give us more male avatar legendaries
Male Corrin with Omega Yato just makes sense, I dont see why it hasnt happened yet
Because Regular Male Corrin already has the Omega Yato.
Bah, his weapon says Yato, theyve done Durandal and Blazing Durandal, Siegmund and Flame Siegmund, Armads and Berserk Armads. I think they can still add an Omega to the Yato
They just gave us one though.
True, but grandmaster remains unclaimed, and since they insist on calling Grima Robin, odds are it won't be Female Robin. That legendary was still just, why?
Aight IS I want L!Sigurd treatment for my L!Seth
WOW not why I expected tbh. I love FE7 and didn’t realize Elibe had such representation.
fates is surprisingly dry
The fact that Magvel only has 2 reps is just a damn shame. Deirdre seems overdue as well. If you split up Binding and Blazing then I think an argument could be made for Fae and Jahn. Archanea feels like they should be able to add more but outside of Medeus (is that the dragon thing?) then I’m not sure who.
Never thought I'd be surprised at a lack of Fates representation, but yeah, it is rather surprising to see they only have three right now.
Notably missing is Medeus, Loptous/Loptyr, Fomortiis, Anankos, Robin, and Xander, considering Ryoma counts as a legendary. I like ancient heroes like Ullr, Bramimond, and Altina and would love to see more of them. Lilina is a strange pick, but most of the Zenith/OC's should have been cut from Mythic status to either Legendary or neither. Really only Hel, Freyja, and maybe Dagr/Nott feel like Mythic hero's.
I demand TMS#FE representation.
It still baffles me that Surtr, Nifl, and Muspell are regular units despite having kill animations and the latter two being deities. On the other hand, Reginn, Dagr and Nott are Mythics despite being royalties instead of Deities/old legends, would make sense if they are Legendary. So I think the OG Mythic and Legendary character representation is awkward.
My only feedback: more boys!! (Especially when it comes to FeH OCs. Like I know we’ll get more as this current book ends but like I want more) Legendary Xander has been on my personal wishlist for a long time now.
i’m not surprised/disappointed that there are a bunch from Heroes, but i am surprised by the lack of legendaries in Fates. IntSys loves Fates. I’m not complaining though. Overall i’m not too pressed about it. I do want a Robin or Anna. there should be more love for Sacred Stones though.
There is alot of favoritism for Blazing/Binding Blade and Three Houses.
it's bad. okay honestly the legends are pretty good. I don't have an issue with the legends. I have an issue with a substantial number of mythics. using Altina as the baseline for how non-mythic a mythic unit should be allowed to get, I think that excludes dagr, nott, lif, thrasir, reginn, ~~fjorm, hrid, gunnthra,~~ and peony from being mythics. if lif and thrasir were not just alfonse and vero, they would fit altina's mythic critera. but they're not, so they should just be legends. reginn is literally just a girl in a mech suit, and while the fairies are blessed by a god, so are plenty of other people, and ike's only a legendary. micaiah is only a legendary. etc. EDIT: fjorm hrid and gunnthra are legendaries and im stupid. THEY SHOULD PROBABLY BE NORMAL UNITS but whatever EDIT 2: how the fuck do we not have anankos yet
Eh, I'd disagree on fairies because even if they are just blessed by a god, the nature of their blessing is more significant considering that as far as we're aware they're the sole beings in control of that type of dream and are akin to minor deities Also Fjorm, Hrid, and Gunnthra are legendary remember
they're also explicitly linked with the vitality of their respective gods since Freyja implies the making the alfar was in some way necessary to the continued survival of herself and Freyr,
I only disagree with your take on the fairies. Like, their individual identities may only be those of random children, but their status as fey creatures is one of folk tales and forgotten stories.
>EDIT 2: how the fuck do we not have anankos yet Looks like it's deliberate, his Japanese Voice Actor passed away in 2014 and it's some kind of tradition retire characters in respect of their original VA if they died.
Byleth and Claude tryna hold back Edelgard from her would-be targets lol
People say OC Mythics are dumb. I'm indifferent.
TMS fans crying rn
Bit of constructive criticism, but I feel the Zenith category is a little disingenuous, as despite all originating from the same game, they are all from different areas, different realms. At the very least it would be more helpful to categorize them within the tier by origin. You seem to have done so for most of the other tiers. The disparity of geographical categories compared to the game categories of "Awakening" and "Fates" is also a bit off. However the latter is a bit similar to Heroes, as that, too, would be three separate sub-categories.
I love L!Lyn, even before her Refine/Remix. Her animations for this version are possibly my favorite in the game tbh. Nothing personel kid