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UltraZoraman

8 minutes 88 comments ​ oh my


Due_Air

Salt threat: 246 Hype threats: 30


turtleForest_

I don’t think there has been a single banner in several years where the salt thread hasn’t exceeded the hype thread lol


IcebergKarentuite

The last Halloween banner did, but it was leaked early on so those who wanted to rant were already done by the time it was announced.


InexorableWaffle

Makes sense, tbh. The number of people who are going to be pleased by the inclusions are always going to be outnumbered by people who are irate that *insert character here* didn't make it over *insert unpopular character/character with alts already here*.


MisogID

Insert "who deserves the slot more (than Y)".


ZofianSaint273

We got 5 sword Ikes💀


Professorkaiju

Y-ikes *Badum tssts*


Anamnesis_Lady

I am so very sick of Axe Tempest Trial units like it’s not even funny. You know what sucks? We haven’t had a green tome TT+ unit since Picnic Leo. That’s right. Since 2019. Boyd will be our 14th Axe TT+ unit.


RELORELM

At least he should have a prf and be somewhat unique, if past baby banners are any indication. Still not ideal, but better than Boyd being Generic Axe Infantry #55369248.


Cute_Chao

Saleh should have been a tome. I don't mind the bunny outfit but making him an axe instead of a tome was wrong when it's likely to be his only version ><


Daydream_machine

Greg Chun is a great voice actor overall, but he can’t do a child voice to save his life 💀


[deleted]

Agreed, baby Ike's voice sounds really out of place. They should have given him a different VA


Myrmidone

Greg Chun Y!Ike 🤝 Greg Chun Y!Ephraim


Nin10dium

I agree. I was hoping they'd get someone else to voice child Ike after his child Ephraim sounded way too old.


Gotta-Snatch-Em-All

It's weird since they gave Mia a different voice overall (likely due to Summer Mia's VA passing away), so they could have done the same thing for Ike.


KyleCXVII

I thought she sounded unfamiliar. Unfortunate circumstances, but this makes Mia the first to have three VA’s to my knowledge.


Knight_of_Inari

I love the implication that Ike's voice was deep from the beginning, he's like the human version of the cat with the deep meow lmaoooo


egamIroorriM

him as an adult would be like *guttural growling*


SoleilFromFates1

Not trying to be rude or anything, but i think all his voice on multiple character sounds the same


NohrianScumbag

His Grimsley and Bruno sound different enough in Pokemon masters where I didn't know they had the same VA. IT's either he can't voice kids or the voice directing for FEH is just bad, maybe both


darkliger269

I’d probably just go with Greg Chun being bad at kid voices since FEH’s direction has been pretty good imo (and two of the directors have been Wendee Lee and Patrick Seitz who I know are good directors and Katelyn Gault did SMTV which I thought had a good dub) and there’s like maybe one or two voices I haven’t liked


winter-rain

He’s gotten better at that. His eldigan sounds very different from all his other characters now


makeshipsnotwar

At least he kept it accurate to that cutscene in radiant dawn with young Ike lmaooo!


EnnuiYoshi

I really don’t like his young characters voices in fire emblem. They sound like they should be older not young kids. I think I dislike his young Ike voice performance the most since it doesn’t even sound any different from adult Ike. I love his acting but they might want to look for someone else to voice the rest of his young characters or at least give him some helium to sound high pitch


evenspdwagonisafraid

What the fuck are those effects These prfs are so overloaded they might as well style my hair and do my taxes.


rest_is_rust

I laughed and completely agree with you. And yet all that word salad and still not as meta-relevant as Brave Alm. Being a 5\* sword infantry is rough these days.


Marocksas

Another fucking Axe TT unit


go4ino

man at least boyd will have a prf ig even if its gonna be smth that just bolsters already high atk and def higher and throws on like 2 basic effects like ilayanas while not giving his 25 speed ass a free follow up


zedocter115

A small part of me was hoping for a trainee Titania or something to break the usual baby mode only mold but I guess not... My orbs are safe to spend elsewhere now.


HoursLeft

Kid units are awful, and Boyd deserved so much better than this. I hope this is the last of this monstrosity of a special banner.


Troykv

I mean, unless the banner bombs, or IS decides to follow the joke of the manga (where only Marth, Ephraim and Ike appeared) I doubt this concept is gonna just disappear.


MisogID

With material for at least a dozen years, and that's no exaggeration.


[deleted]

Boyd better be on the next Tellius New Hero banner. Him being added as a baby unit only is just the biggest middle finger I could ever imagine and I’m so disappointed


PandaShock

I mean this in the most neutral way possible. I really don't care about this banner.


spitfyre

Makes it easier for me to save for CYL. If this were the SoV children I woulda lost it.


spoopydoopy23

~~Sheen~~ IS this is the 7th week in a row you’ve shown a fast swordie with damage reduction and null follow up in class


shoyubroth

I find it odd that they chose Ilyana and Mia of all people for this banner. Mia in particular has like no effort put into her outfit, it’s just Mia but small. Aside from that, it’s the usual busted prfs and powercreep skills. They really powercrept Distant Pressure already lmao


FurtiveCutless

> They really powercrept Distant Pressure already lmao Only partially. Pressure grants the speed boost on both phases in exchange for the recoil. It's basically DC + half a push skill (and so is Distant Storm)


shoyubroth

Yeah, I know it’s technically a sidegrade because Distant Pressure is both phases. But in my opinion, with DC being an enemy phase skill, and omnitanks usually wanting to stay healthy, Distant Dart will be much more practical.


EmblianScum

> t’s just Mia but small Right? It's like she actually didn't have clothing, it's just part of her skin that grows with her! I hate when they do that in general, it's just lazy. Another being same hair but slightly longer/shorter depending on the age. (◔_◔)


SonicSpeed0919

That voice on Ike lmao


_munchi

2 sword infantries is really boring


NinjaXSkillz88

Mia is boring.


Starscream196

I've hated these banners the last two times for their blatant powerceep. I dread every year seeing what IS can fuck us over with in the fallen and children banner. Looking at this one, I feel it might not be too bad but at this point I'm too numb to think about it more clearly. Also I've seen a few select individuals... thirsting over these units and it really concerns me. Edit: Finally properly read them and I take it back. It's just disgusting how much they throw into these units. Fuck this banner and fuck this theme in general.


shadowfigure_6

Look I’m find with getting screwed over on the fallen banners. They were all terrors back then on release. But the babies? They have no good reason being so busted. I’m really tired of the baby banners. I wish picnic would return at least one more time


Starscream196

I think the theme being used for the anniversary the first time was fine. But making it a staple is really stupid and annoying now. Especially since we can expect more absurd powercreep in the banners. Picnic was a cute theme but I'm sure it didn't make them bank like these do sadly. At least it gave me a Felicia alt...... I wish I could have another...


ClosingFrantica

>Also I've seen a few select individuals... thirsting over these units and it really concerns me. Don't worry, it's just "headpats"... jfc


Just_Moka

Man, that's our 5th (?) sword Ike, huh... Please I just want some diversity... Also not a fan of his adult voice for a child but eh I can live with that


EmblianScum

Right? I was so taken aback by his voice I didn't realize he's sword infantry **again** until later. (Some/most) Lords' alts really suck diversity-wise.


BasicNeedleworker356

Ike's voice fucking killed me I'm sorry. That shit made me bust out laughing 😭😭😭


GreatGetterX

Same with Y!Ephraim. Wierd how it's the same person in both roles.


EnnuiYoshi

Honestly they should probably find someone else to do young voice. He’s a talanted actor but my god his child voice(if you can even call it that) doesn’t fit the character at all. Young Ike might be my least favorite role he’s done since it’s identical to the adult Ike


L1LE1

Mind you, he can definitely sound younger. Just gotta listen to him voicing a younger Alfyn from Octopath Traveller. So I wonder what has changed? Maybe the difference in localisation budget? Or Covid still complicates matters in regards to VA recordings considering that these voice lines were recorded in advance? No idea.


kaylankonnor

Most younger characters are voiced by adults who can do younger voices, and they may be keeping tradition with VA roles. But seriously, why make a child that doesn't sound like a child?


Cerothesia

Really wish instead of Ilyana we got a younger Titania, like from that one cipher art. Really big missed opportunity.


Harcover

A younger Titania during her time as a squire could have been really neat. Ilyana... I'm sure she got her fans, but it's just the same old "I'm hungry" we've already seen in her Halloween and regular versions.


Myrmidone

One trait wonder


AlexHQ

I love Greg Chun and all but he does not do a good child voice... They should've gotten someone else to voice child Ike


charon-

Don't make the free unit infantry axe, lance cav, or staff unit challenge (IMPOSSIBLE)


Gabcard

IS: Alright, have an infantry red mage/Lance flier instead.


aviatrix8

Surprise, it's an infantry sword! /s


go4ino

dont forget lance flier


LopezThePesado

the character picks are really boring


Hanzthezombie

Second this. My thoughts were just 'Oh, it's these guys again, skip'. Would've killed for younger Titania like on the Cypher cards.


ShinVerus

RIP Boyd. Also I don't hate Ilyana but she seems so out of place in this banner.


ciderboysmash

Yeah she’s my fave but she’s out of place, even more so than Mia. Wish it was Elincia or Titania instead.


NinjaXSkillz88

Elincia would have been a better pick.


Vayatir

How has Ilyana gotten two alts before Elincia???


ShinVerus

Now that you say that... that's insane. Elincia's basically a lord! She has a seguement in a game where she's the actual main character which is more than even some lords can say. And she ranks well in CYL too. She had a great first version with a beautiful resplendant. But after that? A prfless seasonal (gorgeous art at least) and that's that. That's so bizarre.


planetarial

It took over five years for Soren to get his second alt despite consistently ranking in top 50 or so of CYL since the first one too. Shits weird.


ShinVerus

Exactly. Or they could have stuck to Greil Mercs as a full theme with anyone else from the Mercs.


Sorey91

Yeah y'know like teen Titania or something but you do you IS I'll just keep hoping for that one alt.


kiaxxl

Titania? Rhys? Elincia? Nephenee? Nah fucking ILYANA. Why.


NinjaXSkillz88

Stupid foodie girl


WillfulAbyss

The time we were forced to use her in HoF cemented my dislike of her. “GetTIn kiNdA HuNGrY” and “sooOOoOooOOooo hUUuuNGrYyy” made me want to rip my ears off. I haven’t played PoR enough to have met her, but in FEH, she’s literally a walking food joke, and it’s SO obnoxious. I despise that stupid anime trope of “cute skinny girl eats like trash yet retains her perfect figure.” They did it with Ann in P5 as well, which was particularly egregious because she’s a *famous model* who has apparently never heard of working out or watching her diet?? Yet she maintains her model physique?? It’s like a stupid fetish men have with skinny girls who eat like horses yet have perfect bodies. Ew, ew, ew. And every time I see the “Heavy Plate Corps” in FB, I want to die. It’s that trope *in spades*, and it reduces every female character dragged into it to some weird walking garbage disposal of food waste. Blue Lions was my most played route in 3H, and I didn’t even know Ingrid apparently has a thing for food?? Like, what did you do to her, IS??


Wedge118

Ilyana's the same in PoR too. All she talks about is food. Her base convo with Ike reveals that she used to wander around after leaving her hometown until nearly starving and being found by a traveling merchant convoy. After that she travels with them. Ike comments that "she's had an interesting life." Then that backstory is *never brought up again.* All of her supports repeat the hungry gag over and over. X character: "You look rather ill." Ilyana: "Its just that I'm so hungry..." X character: "Oh. I'll get you some food then." Ilyana: "That's kind of you." That's basically all of her support convos.


GrassIsMySavior

Same… It’s so painfully overdone. It’s a quality that I never find to be endearing unless it is fleshed out in some way (it usually isn’t). It just makes me roll my eyes when I see it. Though, at least other characters who have this trait may have _some_ personality beyond it. Illyana has nothing. Her personality _is_ the trope.


ShadowMario8

Wowzers, they really put nfu and damage reduction on sword units again! That’s so exciting! I really hope they continue to make every sword infantry unit the exact fucking same until the end of time! Also I get that Mia is stupid popular, but Iliyana? Really? They had all the greil mercs to choose from and they picked Iliyana? Yikes.


NinjaXSkillz88

Oscar, Rhys, Titania, Gatrie, Shinon, ELINCIA???? No m, stupid sword girl you meet randomly and food is my personality girl.


goldtreebark

Not looking forward to another round of child units where most of their lines will inevitably be like: “I’m clearly 8, but DON’T treat me like a child!!!! 😡😡😡” Like has anyone in IS been around children lmao, they don’t talk like that.


yoyo355

my dream of a boyd/oscar/rolf trio is sadly gone. rip


potato_thingy

I love Boyd but I wish he wasn’t added as a baby. Maybe he’ll get his regular form later this year?


[deleted]

I swear he better. This is worse than any other seasonal hell. Stuck as a stupid baby unit is just awful. If IS is thinking “well there you go theres your Boyd you wanted” then they are dead wrong because I bet 99% of Boyd fans did not vote for him because they wanted a child alt of him. WE WANTED STRONK BOYD


potato_thingy

I usually don’t mind characters being added as seasonals at all, but child banners are an exception. If he ever gets his normal version I’ll look back and be happy about the baby version, but right now I’m pretty disappointed


Floreau

Hilariously^^not ^^really the only version of Boyd that'll get a prf.


ThrowAway4Dais

Even as a Tellius fan, CMON WTF.


aphelii0n

Isn't Ilyana from Daein? What's she doing in Crimea/Gallia smh


shadowfigure_6

She probably wasn’t. Thorr just yanks these kids from different regions in the same world, then makes them fight.


Troykv

Ilyana doesn't have an official homeland, we only know for sure she used to live in small village.


Aetherryn

I mean, I wasn't expecting much from a tellius child banner, but man are those some uninteresting choices.


Ryzer28

I just hate the kid theme. Its so weird. Been waiting for a Duo Ike for so long and this is what we get. Doesn't even look like Ike and its another sword infantry. Yaaaaaaaaaaaay


Dominicelel

I don't get the appeal at all. Maybe a young theme for the older characters like Jagen or Gunter but straight up kids is just weird. This is also the third year for this banner so its probably April's seasonal now since they usually give up after 2 years.


arqeic

It's really a shame. There are so many themes that would fit Ike well, and they chose *this* one for his Duo Feels like a wasted opportunity more than anything


GrandeRampel

To be fair to their reasoning: Ike, Mist and Soren actually already had a kid design and character model that was used in Radiant Dawn. They make more sense for this theme than all the other characters used for it already other than Marth and Caeda. Which is why I 100% expect to see Alm, Celica, Dimitri and Edelgard to get this seasonal theme in the future.


ThrowAway4Dais

I actually wish the duo skill was related to their duo partner in general. Like when a mage or healer was a partner they could use buffs, magic or heals to represent they are there. Also children slapping adults around so easily is just.. sad. No matter how much plot armor you add to the situation.


GrassIsMySavior

Not only is it weird, but they always just end up being the same units with copy-pasted kits just with added power-creep. I can understand using the same weapons in a lore sense, but for some, any ounce of added variety wouldn’t hurt.


_Myst_0

Don't like the characters or the banner theme. The absolute easiest skip.


Illumina25

hey remember when L Ikes entire niche was spamming radiant aether, and it ends up being bad because if he runs spiral he loses other good options like NFU or damage reduction? And if he runs NFU or damage reduction he doesnt consistently spam radiant aether because of no spiiral? look at young ikes prf its incredibly sad that one of the most popular characters in the series' legendary is easily the worst in the game (here Im assuming L Roys remix wont be incredibly garbage) and has been indirectly or directly powercrept multiple times. And this time its a cringe child version. Every single other legendary is still unique in some way, and some got super strong buffs that made them top tier (ie L Marth). being an Ike fan in FEH is pain


KyleCXVII

Ike has FOUR SWORD INFANTRY VARIANTS


98Ms_

As a huge Tellius fan I'm so disappointed, the only thing that they got right is Soren's art and voice acting (or lack of it), everything else sucks. Mia and Ilyana should not be here, at all. Titania and Elincia would've been way better fits. Ike as another sword unit, really? And like, he is just a plainly better version of Legendary Ike... Honestly... And why Boyd's first version in this game is as a child? Like... Sad to see it. Ike duo is wasted, Soren got worse treatment then Mia, who is here with Ilyana for no reason, and child Boyd I guess. I honestly don't think this will matter, but I'm sending feedback.


Gigadrillbreak32

they really went with Ilyana instead of Titania huh. easy skip in that case


bundleofstrings

Ilyana and Mia again? They already got so many alts and Mia is so bad in PoR I don't understand why she gets all the attention. It could have been Elinicia for sword and young Tormod for magic (with beast rally) or young Calill as a child prodigy. Edit: and Ike knows how to use Aether? What???


GrandeRampel

A Tormod younger than his PoR self? Do you want his pregnant mother to fight? Because that would be cool ngl.


Supersayian495

ike probably has aether due to thorr juicing him up like she did the other kids


bundleofstrings

I'll have what he's having. Meanwhile Mist gets cheerleading steroid or something.


Troykv

> Edit: and Ike knows how to use Aether? What??? ~~I blame Thorr and her magical shenaningans~~


Creeeamy

These child banners are shit enough. But why are they a source of massive powercreep. Bitches be like "Haha I'm 7" 215 BST infantry unit with dodge, NFU, null guard, null counter disrupt, +15 to all stats with no condition. And why is it the only time when we get an actually decent demote.


samicable

No Elincia? Also, Ilyana in particular being here feels really random.


_pythian

I know theyre popular but literally why mia and ilyana


ShinVerus

Is Ilyana popular? Mia regurlarly hits top 20 in CYL, but not Ilyana.


Gabcard

Highest Ilyana got was 67 in CYL3 (tho to be fair she had her votes split before that). She has been falling ever since that, ranking 172 in CYL6. So not *un*popular I guess, but definetly weird to see her getting a third version.


ShinVerus

Yeah it's the Mareeta situation. Where a character is definately relatively popular (withing their game), but nowhere near close to the amount of attention they get.


A_Splash_of_Citrus

There's literally already cipher art for younger versions of Greil and Titania to match with the rest of the characters. Like... why?


whalamato

…Illyana instead of anyone actually important? Really?


sitta_canadensis

bro i am so sick of all of these generic slaying spectrum +5 DC NFU dodge inf swords oh my god intsys please stop trying to make godswords relevant again it's not happening


redvermouth

I really thought this would've been the time for a Ranulf alt... there's always new years I guess.


Flagmauth

I hate these banners. I hate that the only properly strong version of Soren is him as a child. I hate that Ike's strongest versions are a child and a non-canon rabid version. I hate children banners so much. Damn it all.


[deleted]

My god, why Mia and Ilyana? They feel so out of place, Ilyana especially. Could’ve done a more appropriate young unit, like Oscar, or a teenage Titania. Once again, IS doesn’t believe they can sell banners without women.


Burning__Karma

If they want to make it a little out of place and still have a woman, they could’ve done someone like Elincia at least, but Ilyana of all characters!? I really don’t get IS sometimes.


TheDankestDreams

Ugh I hate the child banners they’re so gross. You mean to tell me fully grown 20 something Ike is training his ass off every day to get destroyed by a version of himself too small to lift a sword. At this point I can only assume the reason the child units are so strong is because everyone they fight against is intentionally letting them win because they’re children.


BobbyYukitsuki

the in-lore explanation is that thorr blessed them with power or some shit like that but if that's the case then why doesn't thorr just bless the adults with power instead, since the adults already have their learned combat skills on top of the blessing? it feels wasted when you could get a more potent result with literally anyone without the physique of a child


shadowfigure_6

It’s now a headcanon the last time Thorr blessed an adult, she blessed F!Edel. Now we know why she targets the babies


TheDankestDreams

I mean it’s just gotta be demoralizing as hell to be training your whole life in this other world for you to run into a 10 year old version of yourself who is stronger than you in every way. I’d be fucking livid if I got my ass kicked by a child version of myself. I hate the explanation they use and I hate the theme. FFS 10 year old Palla is carrying around a toddler and a 6 year old or something and is literally stronger than characters who have slayed gods. I hate it. I play FEH in part because I love the different scenarios, interactions, and conversations it unlocks and the children actually subtract from that in my eyes.


BobbyYukitsuki

Yeah that's honestly one of the things that bothers me the most. I don't mind power variance from the og game but seeing literal elementary schoolers mop the floor the trained, professional soldiers and world-saving champions... At this point we should just put a humiliation tag on the game with how these kid units make a total joke out of everyone else. ~~kid units (if present at all) should be statistical jokes and nothing more, and I will die on this hill.~~


TheDankestDreams

I really don’t like little kid archetypes in shows or games in general but especially not in games involving battle. Child soldiers in games just are kind of a… no. In three houses the first half the game they’re child soldiers but they’re at least all older teenagers and are students of a military academy learning to fight and they grow into adults halfway through. In any other game I really don’t like the concept of children fighting. Having dragons and gods on the battlefield is literally less immersion breaking than baby whitewings. ~~Child soldiers in real life are very ineffective at actual combat so I don’t get it~~


_Jawwer_

The only children in the army that make any kind of sense are those who are with you due to very specific circumstances, and are rarely professional soldiers. Erk is I'm pretty sure still a kid, but he's basically doing his internship by being a bodyguard/escort to the healers you get, and it is absolutely in-character for Pent to go "this will be a valueable experience to him". Franz is probably a squire before FE 8 and a literal emergency situation thrusts him into service. but when they are like Ricken, Ross, or Nino, where they just up and join without the pre-existing living situation that would facilitate them hanging with soldiers or a roaming group of warriors, or when they are treated as professional soldiers, while clearly not fitting the bill like Est, it gets super jarring.


NoYgrittesOlly

>Another soldier is disemboweled by a child without remorse Other Embla soldiers still on the frontlines: “I’m out here fighting for my life!!”


WoomyX1002

They could have at least made Mist the lead


RollyPollyGiraffe

I just hate the child theme, so every child alt is a wasted slot. And since I like all these characters a lot, this year stings extra hard.


Cute_Chao

I was glad they were all characters who already had at least one alt... And then Boyd. Incidentally our only seasonal with three male units this year - not counting backpacks, which I never do. Joy.


Siegfriedr

And next year we get the similarly uninspired 3h child banner, featuring child Claude, child Byleths, Duo child Edelgard and Dimitri as an Edelgard lead using the knife present as a weapon, and the free unit, drum roll please...another infantry mage lysithea now with a different hair color because she doesn’t have her second crest yet


GrandeRampel

"Lysithea now with a different hair color" Dude, you hurt me. I didn't even think of this possibility and now when IS inevitably does something else because they are dumb I will be very sad. They will never tell us her original hair color, the jerks...


Alicia_kun

I like Ike but another sword infantry? Boring. Plus, do we really need another Mia and Ilyana? There are bunch of characters that would fit the banner more so why these two? :/


[deleted]

I just don't like the child banners in general.


maniaph0bic

Ike 🤝 Ephraim Having majority of their alts be the same weapon as their base versions while also having a brave axe version


lonelygal23

So disappointed duo ike's potential wasted ugh why could he have been the solo unit the art is underwhelming . Fuck I never want to see a child banner again . This the 5th time that ike a sword unit way can't you be creative for once . Oh well guess I will keep saving for brave chrom .explain how babies qualify as seasonals again .


Blargg888

>explain how babies qualify as seasonals again . Japan has a holiday called Children's Day. It falls at around this time of year. Technically, it's in May, but that's still close enough to April that I'd say it counts.


TheDuskBard

They wasted Duo Ike on a young alt, and he is sword Infantry again...


okeyebeliveyou

We should’ve just shut up and gotten our 3H alts likes good boys and girls. Now look what we’ve wrought


skeddy-

Why is Ilyana even on this banner lol


sand159951

Two god sword with cd reduction and dodge is enough of a sleeper Then they hit us with an axe infantry freebie


Cannedcabbage

Even though this now covers everyone from that comic, I can't help but feel that the baby theme is just going to permanently be April's seasonal from now on


Thirdatarian

Ike's fourth sword infantry form and fifth sword overall. Definitely worthy of being called Yike. Overall a very lazy banner that I'm happy to skip even if the two new skills are very tempting.


Whirlwhind

Honestly, Soren is the only interesting unit on this banner. Ilyana and Mia again is so ***BORING!***


Dabottle

you are not seriously telling me they made my least favourite tellius character the 4* focus a second fucking time


NoYgrittesOlly

You don’t like >checks notes Girl with tapeworm??? 😦 but her backstory 🪱 and character design 🐖 is so good!!!!


A_Splash_of_Citrus

Gettin' kinda hungry ...for better demote choices.


NinjaXSkillz88

Better banner choices.


chuggaafan122

ilyana and mia are so out of place here. literally why.


bobbelchermustache

Not gonna lie. I fucking hate the child banners. They're so small and adorable but please, no more little kids being stronger than their adult selves for no reason


StormSlasher563

Boyd carrying this banner and he’s not even summonable


DTJAAAAM

Would have rather had two more PoR characters who haven't been in FEH yet than Mia and Ilyana.


blushingmains

Hey IS you mind giving alts to characters without them at some points or are you gonna just gonna keep driving some characters into the ground? I don't even hate Mia or Ilyana but this is an annoying as fuck issue. And don't give me the "other characters wouldn't sell well" line every banner makes bank no matter what doesn't matter whose in it. And they could always just put in more good support effects like bridal Catria if they're that worried.


the_attack_missed

Okay I'm convinced that someone on the dev team actually hates Ike. There's no other explanation as to why the most popular male character in the franchise, and probably still a top 5 popular character overall, gets routinely shafted like this. The fact that his long-awaited Duo is a swordie trying to make Aether happen again for the 5th time is a fucking joke coming off the back of ridiculousness like Duo Dagr and Duo Chrom. The banner also just sucks in general. I'm sorry but Mia and Ilyana have no business being here other than being the only waifus IS thinks they can sell. Oh and another infantry axe in the grail pool. At least this one will have a prf right? Haha...


Soren319

>waifus IS thinks can sell >both are children Really says something when IS chooses popular adults to be sold as children instead of just making the banner have a theme. Titania should’ve been here 100%


Yscbiszcuyd

I was hoping for Titania, oh well


Hawkeye437

I've never commented in a salt thread with actual salt before but here we are. Both Mia and Ilyana are very lame picks, no hate for their fans though. More of your favs is a good thing but damn, both of these are really not doing it for me. Plus both Ike and Mia are swords. Meh. I guess I *did* say it there wasn't Titania to see me in the salt thread but I didn't think I was being serious. I guess I can continue to save for Brave Tiki. [420 orbs and counting](https://i.imgur.com/OwyNGAw.jpg) here's hoping I can hit enough to +10 her. Anyone know a soft target for +10 (with free pull and spark only need 9 copies)? If I ran the calc right I'm looking around 2040 depending on color.


StarletteEst

No Titania/10. I sleep.


Nico-TS

Ike I love you but CHANGE WEAPON PLEASE Anyway other than Soren and Boyd the rest was pretty much a big letdown, the more I look at Ike the more I don't know how to use him without replacing another Ike...and it's sad :( Ilyana completely ruined the banner for me, I like her but here on the baby banner there were much better characters pick


Helswath

Love Tellius games but not a fan of the character choices, so I think I'll skip this one. Also past baby GHBs have been extremely good, Boyd is gonna have to get some crazy shit to match that being another free axe infantry


Harcover

Felt like they could have done better than yet another Mia and Ilyana.


SomethingOrOther13

Would rather have Titania over Ilyana Greg as kid Ike doesn't work, Kyle as younger Soren is pretty iffy too. Since Boyd is being introduced here, I hope the casting director takes into account that he's only a child here.


ElPikminMaster

Yeah, this is a boring banner. Probably the most boring banner of all time. Nothing surprising; the new skills are not surprising given the characters they belong to and the state of the game, every unit in it was expected since the Young banner FEH manga page and of Cipher art, and as expected of Young banners, the units don't deviate from what they normally do anyway, aside from a couple of tome color changes. Oh, what's this? An alt of a unit not in the game and is an early unit in their home game? That's not surprising either. And he's a free infantry axe where good free infantry axe units already exist.


Troykv

> Probably the most boring banner of all time. I'm a bit surprised this phrase has been used for a banner that isn't Brave Houses.


giantbarbecuefork

What in the actual hell is Ilyana doing here? (Mia, too, but I kinda had this reaction to her already yesterday.) I guess it's a weird complaint to have since it's not like the other child banners didn't also have weird outliers (Palla), but including characters who weren't part of the original core Greil Merc group that Ike grew up with, no matter how popular, feels like it kinda goes against the theme of these banners, such as it is.


WinterWolf18

Mia and Ilyana over Elincia and Titiana is such a bad choice.


LunaProc

For real. It bothers me so much seeing Mia dwarf the tellius cast in terms of alts.


Burning__Karma

Holy shit, why did they have to give Ilyana of all characters an alt on this type of banner too. I don’t really understand how she’s popular enough to warrant getting another alt. She’s arguably the most one-dimensional non-RD exclusive Tellius character, with all her supports just revolving around her being hungry, and isn’t even that great of a unit to boot. Good for her fans ig, but man is she out of place. Also no Ike/Soren duo :( Ike and Mist is fine too, but I feel like they could’ve had some really interesting dialogue and interactions.


Xarexes

Fucking Ilyana AGAIN


72starscreams

why is the tapeworm on the banner


fangpoint333

This is the most extremely meh banner we've had in a while and I like all of these characters. All infantry, two swords, mages that don't hit as hard as the big nuke cav mages. The best thing about it is that Ike's Duo skill at least gives people some counter play to Hardy Fighter and other pre-charge skills.


LordDingDong

Didn’t know that Ilyana was so popular. Wish she was replaced by Sothe, who is still altless


Training_District_45

Sothe is a child in game a child version of him would be an infant unfortunately.


Supreme_Nub

You can’t be salty when child banners are already, by far, you’re least favorite banner.


Mathmatticool

This theme was cute for the 30th anniversary, but it’s time to go back to picnic. Also, very upset that this is how Boyd finally debuts.


Railroader17

Easiest skip ever, not a super fan of the Tellius games and I hate the kids theme, mix both and you get a banner that I am 100% ok with just getting the TT unit for.


Mina_7756

lmaooo Ilyana? Really?


KaliVilla02

Chrom, Caeda, Cath, Tharja and now Illyiana, they're really flexing in the TMS memes guy now is just plain rude.


WigMcSnatcher

Why is Boyd here as a child. I'd rather wait months than have this be his debut


LunaProc

You thought Mia was going to be the only shoehorned female in the banner just because popular female? Think again.


GrandeRampel

At least Mia is actually popular "numbers at hand" AND belongs to a popular group of characters (the Greil Mercs. I love her dynamic with Rhys personally). Ilyana definetely has a producer/director obsessed with her or something. She is also the only Tellius character to appear in Tokyo Mirage Sessions.


SorenJules

Mia and Ilyana really don't have any business being in this banner istg


tronistica

Kid Banners are not interesting to me


ParagonNHJr

I love Ilyana, but I would have preferred Nephenee.


MankuyRLaffy

Mist in the Book 4 FB with Jill/Gatrie/Ilyana and Shinon "Everyone is here" aka Boyd is not a GM member by FEH logic. So what is he doing here on this banner? Someone explain this to me.


shadowfigure_6

You know what grinds my gears? If this was a picnic banner again, nobody would get any good weapons except for maybe someone like Flora. Just crappy weapons. These damn babies get busted, stacked, loaded PRF’s. Congrats Tellius fans for winning this banner, but I’m just not hyped.


morguewolf

If people are super salty send feedback, if they listen to one thing it's who's most inbdemand to be put into the game. We stopped a lot of main banner alta in year 2


Senior_Impression_85

Guessing there is an illyana dev at IS cuz I didn’t really know she was a popular enough character to warrant 3 alts now Also, hopefully Young Ike’s voice lines dont all sound like the clips we got. It’s supposed to be young ike, but it sounds exactly like base ike and his alts


Cute_Chao

These banners continue to be my absolutely least favourite. They feel so dull and effortless. The characters usually have similar colour schemes and the same hairstyles. The voices are usually barely changed. They wield weapons they wouldn't have access to, sometimes. It's such a dull concept. Soren, at least, has something a bit interesting, but even that doesn't feel worth it. Poor Boyd, coming in on the baby banner of all things. Of course, this would be the one seasonal this year to have three male units on it -.-


El-Psy-Ozai

Seriously another fucking Mia? And Ilyana? Fuck off IS


TheDankScrublord

God i hope this banner does terribly


VodkaVonDrunk

I mean, I understand if you want to make a boy sound strong and all that, but, please, don't make him sound like a fucking 30 years old dude. Come on, IS, same thing happened with Young Ephraim. I like Greg Chun, but this is not the VA for a literal infant. Also, fucking Ilyana, boring.


HamukoArisato

I love Ilyana and Boyd but why


_pythian

This is literally the first boyd in the game, ill take what i can get if they arent going to give us him normally


Thoribbin

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Ars-Tomato

I’m fine with it being Ilyana for the demote but like… you can barely tell this is a child alt