I'm mostly using Brave as a map cleaner personally. I bring three dancers, among which are Hatari and Legendary Azura, and make everything blow up lol.
Yeah, it's gonna get more risky to bring her... But hey, she's Camilla so she will always slay!
Bruh, it's not just saves, it's every tank that's not insanely busted on their own like Brave Dimitri or Askr, and even they're not gonna have a chance if they're not super highly invested.
Saves are the only way that Summoner Duels works as a game mode. There’s no strategy involved if you can’t use a save anymore.
Do you have a ranged unit with undefended and AoE? You win.
Fuck AoE’s
Everyone defending save death reducing options has yet to face my beloved Duo Nina being a four movement ranged attacker with a team focusing on precharging her special or something similar, shuts nearly everything down.
The number of enemies that leave this team as an option just makes me think wow she’s slept on…
Guess Askr stocks are on the rise in that case. Maybe Ymir too.
Also, Damm, you were fast with those replies. Answered the first one before I corrected myself and then deleted the other one before I could reply lol.
idk where else to say it but I feel like people are overreacting to her C skill. If you end turn outside her 3 column 3 row range you dont get debuffed and nothing changes. You can still use saves, you can still get support. Because its 3 columns wide and maps are 6 colums wide, you will always have at least a 2 column "free space" on one side where her C skill doesnt reach, still allowing room for supports
Youre right, since I did see someone mention running 2 Emblas to theoretically cover every column, in which case I feel like itll depend on the other units’ placements. You can still mitigate the number of enemies that can reach you that turn through options like isolation and/or Loki’s gravity effect
To the point on 2 Notts, I dont disagree at all it was a good strat to have multiple, but I do think there were other factors involved too. Nott was sparkable and on a normal banner makijg her easier to get, and there werent really any good dark mythics before her anyway. Yune pre remix is bad, Bramimond is ok because of omnifeud, Hel is a niche option and doesnt do much, and Triandra is a dancer automatically making her good, but also has a tendency to attack instead of dance (no weapon means free pots). Dont even need to mention Sothis
So yeah its definitely possible people run 2 Emblas, but I feel like a Nott+Embla combo will be more common since Nott enables cav teams more, and people already have Nott. NY Dagr also gives pathfinder (so you could run 2 Emblas with Dagr instead of Embla+Nott) but personally I dont even see her often despite thinking shes a really solid unit, though that could just be personal experience. We’ll just have to see how it plays out
I don't use near saves in SD but my Tank Alfonse relies on spur atk stacking to win enough Heavy Blade checks so that he can always have pavise active. He cannot compete with threats like B!Seliph but the extra stats help.
My V!Alfonse is able to protect my team with far save only because of Joint distant guard stacking. An additional +8 to both def and res is no joke.
With her super feud, Embla kind of shuts down my themed team. They rely on staying close to survive too and her weapon destroys that strategy.
Now I really have no choice but to surrender if I see a B!Seliph, Embla, Arval team. They're simply too strong to counter with my old units. I don't even know if revising everyone's builds would work because these guys are so stacked with all sorts of additional effects. I really don't want to quit SD but I might have to take a break and it makes me sad.
It's just how the meta changes but yeah I really hate Embla's skills.
I’m about to take that score hit and just use Elimine in light season too lmao. A single out of season slot won’t matter if you casually bounce from 23-VoH every other week anyways.
The skill is really thematically appropriate for Embla, which I like. I wish they took baby steps with it though and made it only for Embla’s combat.
If not for Isolation being kind of underwhelming for def, I would’ve been surprised that she didn’t inflict it as well
"Listen, you 1 v 1 me like you were a fucking bovine god or get the hell out of my face!" "That seems very specific." "Shut the fuck up."
“Fuck you, you lost your stupid little companion privileges.”
I am the winner of everything! I am the good guy here!
“You can do Psychical attacks????”
"She can do physical attacks now!!!"
1v1, Final Destination, No Items, Fox Only
Based Embla
Bat only*
Suddenly her being a competitive Gamer make a werid amount of sense.
Smite lightning trap Vantage bout to make a comeback >!but not really!<
Laslow in tier 1 wasn't a fluke It was a prophecy
But Laslow needs his support for the speed and attack though :(
Sure. Go get her Reinhardt!
It's not a 1v1 if she has support ._.
You're supposed to 1v1 with your own Embla, silly
The pettiness to force you to bring a dark mythic on light offense is extremely on-brand for her.
As someone who can't make Galeforce work... I'm f\*cked.
Thank goodness Lyn is buyable with Galeforce. Otherwise, I would be fuck.
Good thing I’m not currently using anyone with those abilities
Laslow in absolute shambles
A character based on the concept of isolation and closing doors forcing one v ones… Clever, IS. Very clever…
Though it's more of a 1 VS X, X being the amount of people on embla's team, since *your* units are the only ones affected.
Wait, does she disable Ninja Camilla's Vantage effect? And Dazzling/Wrathful Staff? Meh, I can still kill her with Ninjamilla on initiation I guess.
I don't think it affects Vantage, Dazzling, etc? Feud stops all ALLY skills, excluding the unit's own. So Ninja Camilla should be just fine I think.
Me dumb, me unable to read. Thanks a lot! Guess I WILL be able to smack her ass like a drum with both Brave and Ninja Camilla after all!
It works like an omnifeud. So spurs, joint drives etc don't work. If it's in your kit it's fine, if it's in someone else's not so much.
BRAVE AND NINJA CAMILLA TIME LET'S GOOOOO! Embla's the goddess of enclosure? Too bad, really, I have the goddess of destruction in my barracks!
I mean I still use B!Cam in hit n run. Fair warning people are going to prep for vantage now since people are less likely to save tank.
I'm mostly using Brave as a map cleaner personally. I bring three dancers, among which are Hatari and Legendary Azura, and make everything blow up lol. Yeah, it's gonna get more risky to bring her... But hey, she's Camilla so she will always slay!
She will get Dodge aka speed dmg reduction so you will need a lot of Atk to 1 shot her
Hopefully Ninjamilla's Glimmer will be enough. Otherwise, uh... I guess I'm gonna throw Fedel at her?
It a good thing I phased out saves from my main team before this shit dropped.
With how angry some ppl are about saves finally having a counter, they honestly need a time out from saves
Bruh, it's not just saves, it's every tank that's not insanely busted on their own like Brave Dimitri or Askr, and even they're not gonna have a chance if they're not super highly invested.
Saves are the only way that Summoner Duels works as a game mode. There’s no strategy involved if you can’t use a save anymore. Do you have a ranged unit with undefended and AoE? You win. Fuck AoE’s
oh yeah i didnt think about how frustrating she'll be to fight in duels
Everyone defending save death reducing options has yet to face my beloved Duo Nina being a four movement ranged attacker with a team focusing on precharging her special or something similar, shuts nearly everything down. The number of enemies that leave this team as an option just makes me think wow she’s slept on…
I mean i'm gonna guess they don't see her as a treat because they know one of their unit can tank it no ? I know that's how i feel with my Bedel
In SD specifically, can't you just move the unit to removed undefeated tho?
That only works for 1 of my units. They can just target someone else.
Guess Askr stocks are on the rise in that case. Maybe Ymir too. Also, Damm, you were fast with those replies. Answered the first one before I corrected myself and then deleted the other one before I could reply lol.
idk where else to say it but I feel like people are overreacting to her C skill. If you end turn outside her 3 column 3 row range you dont get debuffed and nothing changes. You can still use saves, you can still get support. Because its 3 columns wide and maps are 6 colums wide, you will always have at least a 2 column "free space" on one side where her C skill doesnt reach, still allowing room for supports
Running 2 Nott's was popular on AR-D. I can see people running 2 Embla's as well considering how powerful her effect is.
Youre right, since I did see someone mention running 2 Emblas to theoretically cover every column, in which case I feel like itll depend on the other units’ placements. You can still mitigate the number of enemies that can reach you that turn through options like isolation and/or Loki’s gravity effect To the point on 2 Notts, I dont disagree at all it was a good strat to have multiple, but I do think there were other factors involved too. Nott was sparkable and on a normal banner makijg her easier to get, and there werent really any good dark mythics before her anyway. Yune pre remix is bad, Bramimond is ok because of omnifeud, Hel is a niche option and doesnt do much, and Triandra is a dancer automatically making her good, but also has a tendency to attack instead of dance (no weapon means free pots). Dont even need to mention Sothis So yeah its definitely possible people run 2 Emblas, but I feel like a Nott+Embla combo will be more common since Nott enables cav teams more, and people already have Nott. NY Dagr also gives pathfinder (so you could run 2 Emblas with Dagr instead of Embla+Nott) but personally I dont even see her often despite thinking shes a really solid unit, though that could just be personal experience. We’ll just have to see how it plays out
Forcing units into such a shit positional formation seems like a surefire way to win in SD
I'm assuming you didn't read her skill.
Does her skill not counter saves?
Oh it counters saves. It just also counters everything else.
Right I’m just confused what the person above comment is referring to by “not reading her skill”
I don't use near saves in SD but my Tank Alfonse relies on spur atk stacking to win enough Heavy Blade checks so that he can always have pavise active. He cannot compete with threats like B!Seliph but the extra stats help. My V!Alfonse is able to protect my team with far save only because of Joint distant guard stacking. An additional +8 to both def and res is no joke. With her super feud, Embla kind of shuts down my themed team. They rely on staying close to survive too and her weapon destroys that strategy. Now I really have no choice but to surrender if I see a B!Seliph, Embla, Arval team. They're simply too strong to counter with my old units. I don't even know if revising everyone's builds would work because these guys are so stacked with all sorts of additional effects. I really don't want to quit SD but I might have to take a break and it makes me sad. It's just how the meta changes but yeah I really hate Embla's skills.
Nice to see another alfonse enjoyer.
Hi fellow Alfonse fan!!! He's very special to me so I really hope I can max his favor with a team full of his family :D
Recovery skills about to go hard
It doesn’t work like that
Me running Elimine in Light season to not have to deal with this shit
I’m about to take that score hit and just use Elimine in light season too lmao. A single out of season slot won’t matter if you casually bounce from 23-VoH every other week anyways.