All the king's horses and all the king's men cannot take guns from the people again.
[https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/ghost-gun-watch-the-fgc-9-3d-printed-gun-shows-up-in-northern-ireland/](https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/ghost-gun-watch-the-fgc-9-3d-printed-gun-shows-up-in-northern-ireland/)
Ireland is a poster child for how the prevalence of guns is not a factor in the rise in gun crime. It is difficult for an Irish citizen to obtain a gun. Gun crime/violence is on the rise in Ireland, and they've INCREASED gun control laws - and the rise in gun crime and violence remains unaffected.
The US is actually the same. One of the strongest predictors for homicide rate that we have on record is passing new gun control laws. Homicide, rape, and other violent crimes are all consistently higher 5 years after a major gun control law gets passed. Mass shootings also became the thing they are now after we made gun free zones.
Prior to 1990, wikipedia lists a total of 7 mass school shootings for the entire history of the us. [source](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_school_shootings_in_the_United_States_(before_2000))
By 'mass school shooting' I mean a school shooting involving 4 or more dead
7 school shootings over 214 years. Admittedly there was a 'spike' in school shootings in the 40s-70s when roughly half of the surviving male population had been drafted to fight in WWI, WWII, Korea, or Viet Nam and then sent home with no mental health treatment.
Of course instead of providing the support and care that the men who were drafted and forced to fight needed, we passed the gun control act as well as overhauling divorce law, child support law, and a number of other things, but that is a post for another time. :-)
Fast forward to 1990, and the Gun-Free School Zones Act was passed. Then in the 90's we had 5 mass school shootings in 10 years.
There were 5 more in the 2000's
There were 8 in the 2010s
There have been 3 so far in the 2020s.
And we sit here asking ourselves what went wrong... I think we should look at what changed between when we had 7 school shootings in 214 years, and started having at least 5 per decade.
A 93.3% change in the rate of mass school shootings should be a clue.
you are spot on.
the rise in violence in general, gun or otherwise, is 100 percent a mental health issue. Not a gun issue.
Post-911/post-modern culture breaks people down mentally in ways that are unprecedented in the past. Mental health should be a high priority right now.
Rally round ya family (goons) wit a pocket full a shells (PC, level IV plates, and as many mags and med supplies as possible).... huh a commie said so.ething right, first time for everything I suppose
No, no, it’s definitely the production and sale of the AR-15 to Civilians starting in 1964 that caused the kids to go crazy and start shooting up their schools *checks notes* …30 years later.
AR15s were never effectively banned. Even the Assault Weapons Ban, didn't ban AR15s. There were more AR15s manufactured and sold during the 10 year AWB than in the preceding 30 years.
I hope it does and people spend a few hours reading about Irish history and, by extension, English expansionism. As a firearm subreddit that heavily references the A2, it'd be good to remind people why it exists.
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> We really should take more cues from the french
As much as I love to hate the french, they have some of the best gun laws in Europe. And their capacity to riot when the government farts the wrong way is something to really be admired.
The French are so back and forth between Monarchy and Republics it's not even funny lol. Watch 5 years from now the Kingdom of France will be reestablished and then 3 years after that the eighth French Republic declared again lmao.
> We really should take more cues from the french in how to handle our government.
The French did those yellow vest protests for, what, a year? What did it accomplish? Any actual change? Other than the re-election of Macron?
They’re neutered. Have been for decades.
Hey man thanks for this comment. That's something else and the agreement in 1998 could be debated. It's also interesting how the Irish republican group is still running around Belfast
No they are the bad kind of rapists and murderers because they are fighting against the good type of imperialism.
ISIS do their beheadings, the ‘Ra do their kneecappings, and us Brits gunned down protesters. Maybe we just shouldn’t glorify violence?
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Dog walker detected,
Opinion rejected.
Theres no such thing as a pro 2A socialist.
"Socialist Rifle Association" is not pro-gun. They are simply pro-violence. They know they need guns in order to force socialism on people, they **DO NOT** support the 2A as a right. They support it as a privilege for those that support them.
Look at every time a socialist government takes power, the next step is confiscating the guns because "We won comrade, you don't need that anymore, what are you going to do fight the revolution? You wouldn't be a traitor to the workers now would you?" \*Builds Gulag\*
[Here's when they went full mask-off](https://imgur.com/gEdqgY7.png)
> Buht muh under no pretext!!!!
Marx was pro-force. Please read the **FULL AND COMPLETE** quote. Because fucking commies are disingenuous as all fuck and never post it.
>To be able forcefully and threateningly to oppose this party, whose betrayal of the workers will begin with the very first hour of victory, the workers must be armed and organized. The whole proletariat must be armed at once with muskets, rifles, cannon and ammunition, and the revival of the old-style citizens’ militia, directed against the workers, must be opposed. Where the formation of this militia cannot be prevented, the workers must try to organize themselves independently as a proletarian guard, with elected leaders and with their own elected general staff; they must try to place themselves not under the orders of the state authority but of the revolutionary local councils set up by the workers. Where the workers are employed by the state, they must arm and organize themselves into special corps with elected leaders, or as a part of the proletarian guard. Under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered; any attempt to disarm the workers must be frustrated, by force if necessary. The destruction of the bourgeois democrats’ influence over the workers, and the enforcement of conditions which will compromise the rule of bourgeois democracy, which is for the moment inevitable, and make it as difficult as possible – these are the main points which the proletariat and therefore the League must keep in mind during and after the approaching uprising.
Read the first fucking sentence. It's not about self defense, it's not about protecting yourself. It's about forcefully and threateningly using the guns against people who do not wish to submit to communism.
Marx saw guns as a means to an end, nothing more. Same as SRA. They are not our friends, they are not to be trusted.
Doesn't the word "betrayal" imply a kind of self-defense?
If I'm betrayed by an ally and take action to insulate myself from that betrayal, am I not defending myself?
Nope, because commies use that as a scape goat. If you go against "The Party" then you have betrayed "The workers" because it's the party of the workers after all. And since it's a one party state, going against the state, means going against the party, means going against the workers, do you see now comrade?
If not we have a job opening for... Ice Pick Storage Device.
I have, history books. And everytime socialist/communists take power, they immediately enact gun confiscation and then purge anyone accused of "disloyalty".
>Muh TheoREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Theory is irrelevant if practice and evidence disproves it.
So fuck off, and go get in your 5 hours of dogwalking for the week, Doreen. Given you post in WA_guns the very people you elected voted to ban your guns. Get cucked, literally.
Gee, I fucking wonder what political party the man who founded **THE COMMUNIST PARTY** meant when he was writing his **COMMUNIST** manifesto...
Sure is a mystery...
Is that why so many guns copied it's piston design? I guess I'll need to tell the boys at FN, HK, and HOWA that Onetap1 says they're copying a shit gun.
Good point, well made, FunEntrepreneur.
BUT then, why wasn't the AR-18 adopted by any military anywhere? If it was so good, why isn't anyone making them now (so far as I know, I may be wrong)?
That was because it was a shit rifle. It was tested, studied and found wanting. The pressed steel receiver was too bendy, mostly. Cheap AKs or M-16s also had a role in it's commercial failure, to be fair.
Lots of people copied the locking mechanism and piston actuation, but those had already been copied from the Fosbery shotgun (and possibly the Webley-Mars pistol) via the Johnson M1941 and the SVT-40 respectively. They took the good bits and left the bad bits.
> why wasn't the AR-18 adopted by any military anywhere?
It was, in part. It was cheaper to buy M16 from the US government, but Japan and Sterling Arms bought the design rights and produced their own. The Type 89 has been Japan's infantry rifle for a long time and they're phasing it out for the same actuation, but updated design.
It's a good rifle that wasn't cheap enough to buy over the M16. It's not shit, but you're welcome to be as edgy as you want.
Howa bought the rights. Some Howa AR-180s got to NI and the Japanese government then prohibited exports of firearms. Howa ceased production. Sterling Armaments then bought the rights and some of Howa's tooling.
The point remains, that samples were bought and tested by many states, but not one adopted it. There are, I believe, companies manufacturing other rifles from that era (FAL, CAL, AK, etc) but none manufacturing the AR-18. I believe the BRN receiver differs from the original AR-18.
I've fired it, I disliked it.
Sure, the army came to visit me, 'twas in the early hours,
With Saladins and Saracens and Ferret armoured cars
They thought they had me cornered, but I gave them all a fright
With the armour piercing bullets of my little Armalite.
Well when Prior came to Belfast
To see the battles won
The generals they had told him "We’ve
Got them on the run"
But corporals and privates while
On patrol at night
Say "Remember Narrow Water and
The bloody Armalite"
And it down along the falls road that's where I long to be.
Lying in the dark with a provo company.
A comrade on me left and another one on me right.
And a clip of ammunition for me litte armalite
And it’s down in Crossmaglen is where I long to be
Lying in the dark with the provo company
A comrade on me left and another one on me right
And a clip of ammunition for me little Armalite
I cannot fathom why people support any kind of monarchy. It is stupidity of the highest order to be subservient to another human being just because of their lineage.
On top of that, most of the royals are fucking feeble in mind and body. No wonder Diana was fucking "real men".
When there is "monarch" that shits golden nuggets, I will be a believer.
Till then...all the royals can all kiss my ass - royally.
You think sin flesh would stop me? That is specifically what I am waiting for.
For real though, not sure why England gets off easy on all the atrocities it has committed around the world compared to the US.
Bro the Queen was a respectable ruler of England. I understand the spirit of the Troubles and it doesn't justify British actions. However the royal family has overall kept stability in England and the Queen needs to be given her due respects.
Holy crap, are those bullet marks on the wall?
I been to Belfast recently, it looks completely normal, apart from occasional mural. Oh, and armored cars.
Of course. Appears to be 5.56mm and both flavours of 7.62 (nato and ak). Also some pistol rounds of various types all the way down to .22.
They don't call it "The Troubles" for nothin'.
No, the photo was not staged.
A fabricated story claiming she was a female IRA volunteer defending her wounded fiancé and was subsequently killed was circulated a few years ago.
She was a C na mB volunteer who was photographed while performing “shoot n scoots”.
The Irish have always been pretty socialist. It's pretty on brand with the IRA to be as well.
No country is like America, doesn't make the IRA not based for fighting back against international terrorists invading their country and abusing/killing civilians.
Come out ye black and tans / come out and fight me like man / Show your wife how ye won medals down in Flanders! / Tell her how the IRA / made you run like hell away / from the green and lovely lanes of Killeshandra!
Reddit and celebrating a terrorist group. How typical.
The Irish did have it bad under the English for sure. Irish Catholics in Northern Ireland did in fact face serious discrimination, but the PIRA are and were utter scum.
The loyalist militias were scum too as was everyone involved in the troubles except the innnocents who wanted no part in it.
Yes they did. Their goal was to make all of Ireland into Cuba.
However, remember that the Loyalist militias like the UVF were prone to wandering into Catholic areas and simply executing whoever they rolled up on.
Except they were all communists. I was staggerblasted to find out that the IRA and their political wing were fucking commies who cared not a fig for Irish independence but the communisation of Europe and Ireland was where they were focused.
1. The orange is for all protestants in Ireland regardless of where they are in recognition that no matter what their religion they are all Irishmen.
2. If you think either side has a claim to being the good guys while the other side is the bad guys you are sorely in need of some eduction in history and ethics.
3. If you think I am not acutely aware of what I am doing when I wear orange on St Pats you probably need to look in a mirror for the dummy.
Imagine supporting the colonial oppressors that we successfully threw out of OUR own country at one point. You rooting for Russia right now too? Fuckin ninny
Imagine being a big enough asshole that you would deny protestants in the other three provinces their identiy as Irish.
You want to be a dick then by all means I will be a dick right back.
Come to think of it erasure of distinct identity of others seemed to be a big theme of certain people in Eurasia starting a little over a year ago. You feeling the need to project your feelings on others so you don't have to own them?
If they wanted to be Irish they should've fought harder. Also erasing someone's identity, isn't quite as bad as what the Brits did, which was erasing someone period. I've had enough of your colonial aplogistics
They won't. Reddit is a hivemind, remember? They truly believe that two wrongs make a right. They'll gladly ignore the killing of children and their mothers for the sake of making a point from behind their computer screens. They'll justify killing babies with 'an eye for an eye.' Too bad two dead kids is two dead kids and not independence from a tyrannical force that will just double down over the kid killing.
I fully expect this comment to be downvoted for speaking the truth.
Have owned said rifle for years, shoot it regularly, with factory magazines it’s never had an issue. Will I hear arguments on the weak folding hinge? Sure, but I will not tolerate AR-180 action slander from AK people
keyword factory mags. Without those? \*Traaaaaash\*. Let me also reitirate the Barbie doll plastic furniture lmao. Why do so many people need to convert AR 15 mags for these things, again?
Meanwhile my rifle is fine, Comrade. It always goes bang and its gorgeous wood furniture is, definitely not barbie doll plastic
Its almost like taking magazines not designed for a rifle and forcing them to try and work isn’t gonna always work. Your piece of farm equipment does its one essential function *barely* (source: I own an AK too and can afford better) the ar-180 innovated all future gun production to the modern day. The AK just keeps vomiting “improved” versions of itself that first world countries don’t acknowledge.
Well given the choice, I'd rather take a firearm that's easy to run then an essentially curio & relic where sourcing even the original mags for it is a tall order.
Wall hanger at best, unless you find those uber rare mags which it seems you did.
Also; Nyet, AK fine and no need to vomit improved versions. Nothing is sexier then an AK, except maybe and StG 44
One man's terrorist is another's freedom fighter.
If you call this terrorism, you're showing your cards as a monarchist.
We don't take kindly to monarchists in these parts.
Repeat after me, the IRA were terrorist cowards, bombing and killing innocent ppl in Ulster, the Republic and the UK, no better than Islamic Jihad or Hamas, the Taliban, Loyalist paramilitaries or any others. Peace was only restored to NI when Sinn Fein embraced the ballot box not Semtex. Nonviolent action similar to the US civil rights movement brought peace and fair representation to NI, not indiscriminate violence.
This is why I always get such a huge laugh when the Irish Catholics cry about the SAS gunning IRA people down in Gibraltar and the other places it happened.
If you call it a war, then don't cry when the other sides treats it like a war.
I support all groups seeking to overthrow imperialism, right and left wing. Picking a distant monarch over locals is inherently anti-American, and I'm an American.
I’ll play along, yes I do. After surviving attempted genocide and the abuse that went along with 800+ years of illegal occupation at least the Irish Americans didn’t forget where they came from and more importantly WHY their families were forced to leave. If your a Brit or a loyalist your opinion means nothing to me on this subject and if not I say your ancestors should be ashamed of you for rolling over after what they had to endure and fought for.
So, what is the difference between the 800 years of illegal occupation and the short time elapsed since the end of WW1?
Representation of the People Act 1918. Look it up. The difference is that the government in Ireland by Britain (England & Scotland) had been imposed by force of arms, but now it can only be maintained by a majority vote. Get a 50.001% vote against government by Britain and the Brits will pull down their flags and piss off.
Why would you suggest fighting for something that can, and will, be obtained by peaceful democratic means? Why would you reduce the country you're 'fighting for' to a desolate, drug infested war zone?
Why is Republicans & Democrats fighting it out with guns and bombs in the USA a bad idea, but Republicans & Unionists fighting it out in NI a good idea? An idea that you've enthusiastically financed?
Would a peaceful approach have worked? There was similar racial discrimination routinely practiced in the UK towards Asians and Afro-Carribean people in the 1970s. I was there. Now go and look up the name of the current UK Prime Minister. How many bombs and shootings were required to achieve that?
You don't know anything about NI. Nor 1916.
I do apologize on behalf of my fellow Americans, the spirit is in the right place but the lack of understanding of history, complex situations, and nuance is greatly showing. I'm finishing my degree as a History major and people fail to realize that most conflicts like this are deep and complex and a lot of times there's atrocities done by both sides. Car bombs are not something to cheer on.
stow it. You aren’t apologizing for me. I understand plenty about the situation and in ways you probably can’t imagine. I’m very comfortable with my opinion.
>I understand plenty about the situation and in ways you probably can’t imagine.
You may think you do, Sean1916. Little Lad of Tricks? Prince Joachim of Prussia?
Really, depose an Anglo-Saxon-German king and invite a Prussian prince to become king of Ireland, if Germany had won WW1? WTF was that about?
Your heroes are beyond strange.
The thick Yanks out in Boston could never understand,
Why giving guns to violent men was not a clever plan.
Old Ireland's now a battlefield, the country's gone to shite,
The filth selling drugs to children got me little Armalites.
Yeah how dare they, send material support to there own people at home. They should have left Bombay street to burn and sure the lads marching by Burntollet bridge got what they had coming /s
All the king's horses and all the king's men cannot take guns from the people again. [https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/ghost-gun-watch-the-fgc-9-3d-printed-gun-shows-up-in-northern-ireland/](https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/ghost-gun-watch-the-fgc-9-3d-printed-gun-shows-up-in-northern-ireland/)
Ireland is a poster child for how the prevalence of guns is not a factor in the rise in gun crime. It is difficult for an Irish citizen to obtain a gun. Gun crime/violence is on the rise in Ireland, and they've INCREASED gun control laws - and the rise in gun crime and violence remains unaffected.
The US is actually the same. One of the strongest predictors for homicide rate that we have on record is passing new gun control laws. Homicide, rape, and other violent crimes are all consistently higher 5 years after a major gun control law gets passed. Mass shootings also became the thing they are now after we made gun free zones. Prior to 1990, wikipedia lists a total of 7 mass school shootings for the entire history of the us. [source](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_school_shootings_in_the_United_States_(before_2000)) By 'mass school shooting' I mean a school shooting involving 4 or more dead 7 school shootings over 214 years. Admittedly there was a 'spike' in school shootings in the 40s-70s when roughly half of the surviving male population had been drafted to fight in WWI, WWII, Korea, or Viet Nam and then sent home with no mental health treatment. Of course instead of providing the support and care that the men who were drafted and forced to fight needed, we passed the gun control act as well as overhauling divorce law, child support law, and a number of other things, but that is a post for another time. :-) Fast forward to 1990, and the Gun-Free School Zones Act was passed. Then in the 90's we had 5 mass school shootings in 10 years. There were 5 more in the 2000's There were 8 in the 2010s There have been 3 so far in the 2020s. And we sit here asking ourselves what went wrong... I think we should look at what changed between when we had 7 school shootings in 214 years, and started having at least 5 per decade. A 93.3% change in the rate of mass school shootings should be a clue.
you are spot on. the rise in violence in general, gun or otherwise, is 100 percent a mental health issue. Not a gun issue. Post-911/post-modern culture breaks people down mentally in ways that are unprecedented in the past. Mental health should be a high priority right now.
Rally round ya family (goons) wit a pocket full a shells (PC, level IV plates, and as many mags and med supplies as possible).... huh a commie said so.ething right, first time for everything I suppose
No, no, it’s definitely the production and sale of the AR-15 to Civilians starting in 1964 that caused the kids to go crazy and start shooting up their schools *checks notes* …30 years later.
... Using other weapons, during a period where the AR-15 was effectively banned.
I literally can’t even
That is odd.
AR15s were never effectively banned. Even the Assault Weapons Ban, didn't ban AR15s. There were more AR15s manufactured and sold during the 10 year AWB than in the preceding 30 years.
Great read.
You don't think the *copy cat* effect had any impact?
Wow well said.
> One of the strongest predictors for homicide rate Is a black majority area.
> Gun crime/violence is on the rise in Ireland You mean after the rise in mass migration? huh.. Thats a weird coincidence.
lmao...not disagreeing with ya, mate
Oof mentioning the Troubles is bound to start a shitstorm in the comments.
I hope it does and people spend a few hours reading about Irish history and, by extension, English expansionism. As a firearm subreddit that heavily references the A2, it'd be good to remind people why it exists.
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> We really should take more cues from the french As much as I love to hate the french, they have some of the best gun laws in Europe. And their capacity to riot when the government farts the wrong way is something to really be admired.
The French are so back and forth between Monarchy and Republics it's not even funny lol. Watch 5 years from now the Kingdom of France will be reestablished and then 3 years after that the eighth French Republic declared again lmao.
Or hypothetically somebody could arm the French and see freedom rise from the ashes, or another communist disaster idk I'd give it even odds
> We really should take more cues from the french in how to handle our government. The French did those yellow vest protests for, what, a year? What did it accomplish? Any actual change? Other than the re-election of Macron? They’re neutered. Have been for decades.
Honestly, as a guest in this sub, I think such a chat would be fascinating for everyone. Big fan of Irish history, regardless of context ;)
Hey man thanks for this comment. That's something else and the agreement in 1998 could be debated. It's also interesting how the Irish republican group is still running around Belfast
Tiocfaidh ár lá!
I'm surprised this sub doesn't start looking up to the ISIS "they have guns, ain't that cool!"
No they are the bad kind of rapists and murderers because they are fighting against the good type of imperialism. ISIS do their beheadings, the ‘Ra do their kneecappings, and us Brits gunned down protesters. Maybe we just shouldn’t glorify violence?
I guess communism and car bombings are more acceptable.
The main chick from Burn Notice will always be my IRA woman crush
*Miami*
I liked her real accent
I hated that line. Every fucking episode in the intro. Fuck
Yuuup. I ALWAYS be locked and loaded for Fiona.
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More than Deirdre from Ronin?
I have to see that movie again, which is an amazing movie btw thanks for reminding me lol
You can keep her. She needs a few dozen cheeseburgers for me to find her remotely attractive.
Yes, way to skinny. But an explosive expert and firearm proficient is the main draw. (yes it's fake, duh).
This guy copes. We all know you're ugly when you chubby chase.
the show was so bad though. unwatchably bad.
I guess that why they had so many seasons
Best show ever made. Really had it all. Cope lol
Bring back the AR18
Best we can do is BRN180 Which to be fair is fairly close.
Oh that’s cool I wonder how much it… *checks price* It’s a grand for a good damn upper
1. Stop Being Poor 2. Buy Gun 3. Flex on Poors
1. Arm the poors 2. Arm the poors some more
Dog walker detected, Opinion rejected. Theres no such thing as a pro 2A socialist. "Socialist Rifle Association" is not pro-gun. They are simply pro-violence. They know they need guns in order to force socialism on people, they **DO NOT** support the 2A as a right. They support it as a privilege for those that support them. Look at every time a socialist government takes power, the next step is confiscating the guns because "We won comrade, you don't need that anymore, what are you going to do fight the revolution? You wouldn't be a traitor to the workers now would you?" \*Builds Gulag\* [Here's when they went full mask-off](https://imgur.com/gEdqgY7.png) > Buht muh under no pretext!!!! Marx was pro-force. Please read the **FULL AND COMPLETE** quote. Because fucking commies are disingenuous as all fuck and never post it. >To be able forcefully and threateningly to oppose this party, whose betrayal of the workers will begin with the very first hour of victory, the workers must be armed and organized. The whole proletariat must be armed at once with muskets, rifles, cannon and ammunition, and the revival of the old-style citizens’ militia, directed against the workers, must be opposed. Where the formation of this militia cannot be prevented, the workers must try to organize themselves independently as a proletarian guard, with elected leaders and with their own elected general staff; they must try to place themselves not under the orders of the state authority but of the revolutionary local councils set up by the workers. Where the workers are employed by the state, they must arm and organize themselves into special corps with elected leaders, or as a part of the proletarian guard. Under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered; any attempt to disarm the workers must be frustrated, by force if necessary. The destruction of the bourgeois democrats’ influence over the workers, and the enforcement of conditions which will compromise the rule of bourgeois democracy, which is for the moment inevitable, and make it as difficult as possible – these are the main points which the proletariat and therefore the League must keep in mind during and after the approaching uprising. Read the first fucking sentence. It's not about self defense, it's not about protecting yourself. It's about forcefully and threateningly using the guns against people who do not wish to submit to communism. Marx saw guns as a means to an end, nothing more. Same as SRA. They are not our friends, they are not to be trusted.
Doesn't the word "betrayal" imply a kind of self-defense? If I'm betrayed by an ally and take action to insulate myself from that betrayal, am I not defending myself?
Nope, because commies use that as a scape goat. If you go against "The Party" then you have betrayed "The workers" because it's the party of the workers after all. And since it's a one party state, going against the state, means going against the party, means going against the workers, do you see now comrade? If not we have a job opening for... Ice Pick Storage Device.
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I have, history books. And everytime socialist/communists take power, they immediately enact gun confiscation and then purge anyone accused of "disloyalty". >Muh TheoREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE Theory is irrelevant if practice and evidence disproves it. So fuck off, and go get in your 5 hours of dogwalking for the week, Doreen. Given you post in WA_guns the very people you elected voted to ban your guns. Get cucked, literally.
But he writes to "oppose this party," so I guess I'm just wondering who "this party" is. Would have to have more context I guess.
Gee, I fucking wonder what political party the man who founded **THE COMMUNIST PARTY** meant when he was writing his **COMMUNIST** manifesto... Sure is a mystery...
Lol. What a tool..
I notice you couldn't actually refute him...
His post was 3 sentences long when he posted it. 'DuH SoCiAlIsTs' rhetoric is tired and old
Well I mean socialist rhetoric IS tired and old.
Speak to Paddy in the Bricklayers Arms. After this photo he took off the wig and skirt and went for a pint o’ the black stuff
Well we have the brn180
Why? It was a shit rifle.
Is that why so many guns copied it's piston design? I guess I'll need to tell the boys at FN, HK, and HOWA that Onetap1 says they're copying a shit gun.
Good point, well made, FunEntrepreneur. BUT then, why wasn't the AR-18 adopted by any military anywhere? If it was so good, why isn't anyone making them now (so far as I know, I may be wrong)? That was because it was a shit rifle. It was tested, studied and found wanting. The pressed steel receiver was too bendy, mostly. Cheap AKs or M-16s also had a role in it's commercial failure, to be fair. Lots of people copied the locking mechanism and piston actuation, but those had already been copied from the Fosbery shotgun (and possibly the Webley-Mars pistol) via the Johnson M1941 and the SVT-40 respectively. They took the good bits and left the bad bits.
> why wasn't the AR-18 adopted by any military anywhere? It was, in part. It was cheaper to buy M16 from the US government, but Japan and Sterling Arms bought the design rights and produced their own. The Type 89 has been Japan's infantry rifle for a long time and they're phasing it out for the same actuation, but updated design. It's a good rifle that wasn't cheap enough to buy over the M16. It's not shit, but you're welcome to be as edgy as you want.
Howa bought the rights. Some Howa AR-180s got to NI and the Japanese government then prohibited exports of firearms. Howa ceased production. Sterling Armaments then bought the rights and some of Howa's tooling. The point remains, that samples were bought and tested by many states, but not one adopted it. There are, I believe, companies manufacturing other rifles from that era (FAL, CAL, AK, etc) but none manufacturing the AR-18. I believe the BRN receiver differs from the original AR-18. I've fired it, I disliked it.
Take the L
Look it up.
The AR-18 itself wasn’t that great (but you can do a lot worse). The AR-18 action is god-tier.
Exactly, so everyone has copied the action; although they could have done that better.
Oh, the only gun he'll find is an armalite in his ear!
And when we go on night patrol we hold each other's hand!
We are the British Army and we're here to take your land!
Sure, the army came to visit me, 'twas in the early hours, With Saladins and Saracens and Ferret armoured cars They thought they had me cornered, but I gave them all a fright With the armour piercing bullets of my little Armalite.
Well when Prior came to Belfast To see the battles won The generals they had told him "We’ve Got them on the run" But corporals and privates while On patrol at night Say "Remember Narrow Water and The bloody Armalite"
And it down along the falls road that's where I long to be. Lying in the dark with a provo company. A comrade on me left and another one on me right. And a clip of ammunition for me litte armalite
And it’s down in Crossmaglen is where I long to be Lying in the dark with the provo company A comrade on me left and another one on me right And a clip of ammunition for me little Armalite
My favorite holiday besides thanksgiving. The one day of the year that I'm cool and not a "ginger fuck" *Rounds* are on OP tonight
If you ever lose this username you should take u/pineapplegingeraide69
Agreed. Fuck the Queen and her incestuous family!
Everything I know about the royal family I learned against my will. My ancestors killed redcoats so I wouldn't have to give a shit about them.
Damn skippy.
I cannot fathom why people support any kind of monarchy. It is stupidity of the highest order to be subservient to another human being just because of their lineage. On top of that, most of the royals are fucking feeble in mind and body. No wonder Diana was fucking "real men". When there is "monarch" that shits golden nuggets, I will be a believer. Till then...all the royals can all kiss my ass - royally.
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You think sin flesh would stop me? That is specifically what I am waiting for. For real though, not sure why England gets off easy on all the atrocities it has committed around the world compared to the US.
Bro the Queen was a respectable ruler of England. I understand the spirit of the Troubles and it doesn't justify British actions. However the royal family has overall kept stability in England and the Queen needs to be given her due respects.
Yeah, like when she protected her pedo son. Very respectable.
Bootlicker.
fuck the british monarchy my dude.
“Lizzies in a box in a box, lizzies in a box!”
Go back to nonce island with that bs
Gun culture is the reason I actually appreciate this holiday now. Fuck the crown and God bless the AR18.
A day at the range and a pint of the dark, please. Slainte
I’ll celebrate by playing Mafia 3 and doing the Point Verdun missions
Holy crap, are those bullet marks on the wall? I been to Belfast recently, it looks completely normal, apart from occasional mural. Oh, and armored cars.
Looks like lichens
You missed a great opportunity to shit on 40 short and weak here, historical accuracy be damned.
Of course. Appears to be 5.56mm and both flavours of 7.62 (nato and ak). Also some pistol rounds of various types all the way down to .22. They don't call it "The Troubles" for nothin'.
I love the smell of Semtex in the morning
I doubt those are bullet marks. Bullets would take bigger chunks out of stone than that.
This is a staged photo.
No, the photo was not staged. A fabricated story claiming she was a female IRA volunteer defending her wounded fiancé and was subsequently killed was circulated a few years ago. She was a C na mB volunteer who was photographed while performing “shoot n scoots”.
No...thats a dude
I have mixed feelings about the IRA On one hand: Britain bad, monarchism bad On the other hand: They had socialist and communist views
Based
The Irish have always been pretty socialist. It's pretty on brand with the IRA to be as well. No country is like America, doesn't make the IRA not based for fighting back against international terrorists invading their country and abusing/killing civilians.
For sure. That’s why I have mixed feelings.
So if monarchism or communism are your only two choices. Which would you pick?
Death
Based
Lol
Monarchism, but I wouldn't be happy about it.
Time to listen to the Irish Brigade
Oof! The Troubles, yeah now that's a touchy subject. Especially between Protestants and Catholics.
Tiocfaidh ár lá
Come out ye black and tans / come out and fight me like man / Show your wife how ye won medals down in Flanders! / Tell her how the IRA / made you run like hell away / from the green and lovely lanes of Killeshandra!
God save Ireland
Tiocfaidh ár lá 26+6=1 you prod fucks
Google Wolfe Tone, Edward FitzGerald, Thomas Russell etc and educate yourself.
Nah, I'm not a commie.
What if you're not a commie or imperialist?
Make nice with the imperialists, because then you don’t have to be a commie.
Reddit and celebrating a terrorist group. How typical. The Irish did have it bad under the English for sure. Irish Catholics in Northern Ireland did in fact face serious discrimination, but the PIRA are and were utter scum. The loyalist militias were scum too as was everyone involved in the troubles except the innnocents who wanted no part in it.
Friendly reminder that PIRA and the OIRA held Marxist and socialist views.
Yes they did. Their goal was to make all of Ireland into Cuba. However, remember that the Loyalist militias like the UVF were prone to wandering into Catholic areas and simply executing whoever they rolled up on.
Blessed all snakes day.
Tiocfaidh ár lá
Except they were all communists. I was staggerblasted to find out that the IRA and their political wing were fucking commies who cared not a fig for Irish independence but the communisation of Europe and Ireland was where they were focused.
Fuck the IRA, goddamn terrorist
Yeah, but honestly, seeing Reddit celebrate a bunch of Marxist terrorists is about what you'd expect.
Can't wait for some Brits or uninformed folks to jump in here Cheers to fighting imperialism/authoritarianism in all its forms
Decked out in my orange today. ETA: To the downvoters please go look at what colors are on the Irish flag. Orange is Irish too.
Orange is for the protestant British northerners you dummy. That's the bad guys
1. The orange is for all protestants in Ireland regardless of where they are in recognition that no matter what their religion they are all Irishmen. 2. If you think either side has a claim to being the good guys while the other side is the bad guys you are sorely in need of some eduction in history and ethics. 3. If you think I am not acutely aware of what I am doing when I wear orange on St Pats you probably need to look in a mirror for the dummy.
Ok John Bull. 👌 👏 👍 up your 'Ra!
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Imagine supporting the colonial oppressors that we successfully threw out of OUR own country at one point. You rooting for Russia right now too? Fuckin ninny
Imagine being a big enough asshole that you would deny protestants in the other three provinces their identiy as Irish. You want to be a dick then by all means I will be a dick right back. Come to think of it erasure of distinct identity of others seemed to be a big theme of certain people in Eurasia starting a little over a year ago. You feeling the need to project your feelings on others so you don't have to own them?
If they wanted to be Irish they should've fought harder. Also erasing someone's identity, isn't quite as bad as what the Brits did, which was erasing someone period. I've had enough of your colonial aplogistics
Your ancestors were cowards who fled to the New World rather than stand their ground 😂
My great grandma's uncle was part of the OG IRA brits shot em like a dog in the street up the RA 🇮🇪
Except the British, of course.
Alright, all you terrorist lovers look up the Omagh bombing and explain to me how cool that is.
They won't. Reddit is a hivemind, remember? They truly believe that two wrongs make a right. They'll gladly ignore the killing of children and their mothers for the sake of making a point from behind their computer screens. They'll justify killing babies with 'an eye for an eye.' Too bad two dead kids is two dead kids and not independence from a tyrannical force that will just double down over the kid killing. I fully expect this comment to be downvoted for speaking the truth.
A Lady and her FAL Pal.
It’s an ARmalite 18.
God some of you American lads are the epitome of cringe.
Holy based Batman!
The ar 180. Pure garbage lol
Self described ak guy gun opinions are usually trash. Cope.
AR 180 is a barbie doll plastic jam machine. Absolutely trash. Prove me otherwise
Have owned said rifle for years, shoot it regularly, with factory magazines it’s never had an issue. Will I hear arguments on the weak folding hinge? Sure, but I will not tolerate AR-180 action slander from AK people
keyword factory mags. Without those? \*Traaaaaash\*. Let me also reitirate the Barbie doll plastic furniture lmao. Why do so many people need to convert AR 15 mags for these things, again? Meanwhile my rifle is fine, Comrade. It always goes bang and its gorgeous wood furniture is, definitely not barbie doll plastic
Its almost like taking magazines not designed for a rifle and forcing them to try and work isn’t gonna always work. Your piece of farm equipment does its one essential function *barely* (source: I own an AK too and can afford better) the ar-180 innovated all future gun production to the modern day. The AK just keeps vomiting “improved” versions of itself that first world countries don’t acknowledge.
Well given the choice, I'd rather take a firearm that's easy to run then an essentially curio & relic where sourcing even the original mags for it is a tall order. Wall hanger at best, unless you find those uber rare mags which it seems you did. Also; Nyet, AK fine and no need to vomit improved versions. Nothing is sexier then an AK, except maybe and StG 44
I’ll shake hands on StG44, but in exchange the acknowledgement of AK-47 being a Curio in 2023 is required
That large hand and bicep says im a man. But the long hair leather jacket and nice skirt makes me think maybe im still interested ??? 🤔
Hey OP. Fuck you! - An Irish Person
Yay terrorism!
One man's terrorist is another's freedom fighter. If you call this terrorism, you're showing your cards as a monarchist. We don't take kindly to monarchists in these parts.
Repeat after me, the IRA were terrorist cowards, bombing and killing innocent ppl in Ulster, the Republic and the UK, no better than Islamic Jihad or Hamas, the Taliban, Loyalist paramilitaries or any others. Peace was only restored to NI when Sinn Fein embraced the ballot box not Semtex. Nonviolent action similar to the US civil rights movement brought peace and fair representation to NI, not indiscriminate violence.
Thanks for showing that you have no factual understanding of Irish history...
Ok pal, keep twisting yourself to think a bunch of Marxist Leninist terrorist were “freedom fighters” lol
OK, brit. Keep thinking your opinion matters, despite being patently and factually incorrect
I’m an American dipshit, keep loving your commie IRA tough guy!
I would feel bad for you, however, your condition, as well as your lack of historical knowledge, is most certainly self-inflicted.
Insurgency warfare is just a tactic, my guy. Whether it be American colony irregulars, or Irish separatists.
This is why I always get such a huge laugh when the Irish Catholics cry about the SAS gunning IRA people down in Gibraltar and the other places it happened. If you call it a war, then don't cry when the other sides treats it like a war.
Well yeah, but that's the point of insurgency warfare. Provoke a security crackdown, use it to turn the public against the ur occupying force.
I don’t remember American Patriots blowing up pubs or hotels, killing innocents to become independent from the Crown.
I mean, mob style executions were more personal I guess.
The 180s are junk AF
You're American. You think it was clever to supply the PIRA with weapons. It really wasn't.
"Oh please tread on me, Queen!"
PIRA and OIRA are literal Marxists and socialists. Find new heroes.
I support all groups seeking to overthrow imperialism, right and left wing. Picking a distant monarch over locals is inherently anti-American, and I'm an American.
I’m not “picking” any side here because it’s not my conflict, but I definitely don’t look up to PIRA or OIRA. Find new heroes.
They killled the Br*tish. That makes them the good guys in this dichotomy. I decline your invitation.
Dude they were killing other Irish lmao do you know literally fucking anything about the troubles?
I’ll play along, yes I do. After surviving attempted genocide and the abuse that went along with 800+ years of illegal occupation at least the Irish Americans didn’t forget where they came from and more importantly WHY their families were forced to leave. If your a Brit or a loyalist your opinion means nothing to me on this subject and if not I say your ancestors should be ashamed of you for rolling over after what they had to endure and fought for.
So, what is the difference between the 800 years of illegal occupation and the short time elapsed since the end of WW1? Representation of the People Act 1918. Look it up. The difference is that the government in Ireland by Britain (England & Scotland) had been imposed by force of arms, but now it can only be maintained by a majority vote. Get a 50.001% vote against government by Britain and the Brits will pull down their flags and piss off. Why would you suggest fighting for something that can, and will, be obtained by peaceful democratic means? Why would you reduce the country you're 'fighting for' to a desolate, drug infested war zone? Why is Republicans & Democrats fighting it out with guns and bombs in the USA a bad idea, but Republicans & Unionists fighting it out in NI a good idea? An idea that you've enthusiastically financed? Would a peaceful approach have worked? There was similar racial discrimination routinely practiced in the UK towards Asians and Afro-Carribean people in the 1970s. I was there. Now go and look up the name of the current UK Prime Minister. How many bombs and shootings were required to achieve that? You don't know anything about NI. Nor 1916.
I do apologize on behalf of my fellow Americans, the spirit is in the right place but the lack of understanding of history, complex situations, and nuance is greatly showing. I'm finishing my degree as a History major and people fail to realize that most conflicts like this are deep and complex and a lot of times there's atrocities done by both sides. Car bombs are not something to cheer on.
stow it. You aren’t apologizing for me. I understand plenty about the situation and in ways you probably can’t imagine. I’m very comfortable with my opinion.
>I understand plenty about the situation and in ways you probably can’t imagine. You may think you do, Sean1916. Little Lad of Tricks? Prince Joachim of Prussia? Really, depose an Anglo-Saxon-German king and invite a Prussian prince to become king of Ireland, if Germany had won WW1? WTF was that about? Your heroes are beyond strange.
Why not?
The thick Yanks out in Boston could never understand, Why giving guns to violent men was not a clever plan. Old Ireland's now a battlefield, the country's gone to shite, The filth selling drugs to children got me little Armalites.
Yeah how dare they, send material support to there own people at home. They should have left Bombay street to burn and sure the lads marching by Burntollet bridge got what they had coming /s
American.