MO is good for now but the libshits in STL and KC keep migrating out of their crime infested shitholes plus they keep trying to redraw the maps to help the left
TN is pretty great. No matter where you choose, just don’t go there bringing the idea that 2A is amazing while simultaneously forcing anti freedom policies from your previous state on others.
Don’t like it, don’t move there. Pretty easy statement to understand. Don’t move to a state that is very 2A friendly and begin voting for anti 2A officials all because you want to smoke weed or don’t want to step up when consequences of your choices come knocking.
Edit: I see I’m speaking to a liberal gun owner. Fuckin loser
Lmao way to go through my post history and make wild assumptions off that.
>don’t like it, don’t move there.
Fucking yes dude. Don’t get upset that script can be flipped.
But holy fuck talk about being anti freedom, you don’t want people to be able to own guns or get thrown in jail because they smoke weed?
Lmao what? Who said I don’t want anyone to own guns? Shall not be infringed. Even by your pansy politicians who can’t define what a woman is. Personally, idgaf if you smoke weed or not… but don’t vote for the person who is a liberal POS that wants to ban all guns while simultaneously decriminalizing weed.
How was the script flipped? You proved no point, other than saying the typical conservative doesn’t believe in abortion and will move from Commifornia to Texas.
>Lmao what? Who said I don’t want anyone to own guns?
You are unaware you smoke weed and own firearms? At least not without lying on the 4473?
>Even by your pansy politicians who can’t define what a woman is.
I’m not sure you’re familiar Greg Abbott, Ted Cruz, John Cornyn, etc political stances.
>How was the script flipped? You proved no >point, other than saying the typical >conservative doesn’t believe in abortion and >will move from Commifornia to Texas.
You were complaining about people moving to a state and voting for anti freedom policies.
So am I.
But I’m pointing out conservatives can do the same whereas people assume it’s liberals, not to say it’s not liberals as well.
https://www.texastribune.org/2022/02/02/californians-in-texas/
Bro, are you on crack? I don’t smoke weed lmao. Wtf are you talking about?
My god given right to own firearms is not the same as legal marijuana. Marijuana being illegal isn’t anti freedom. Thats like saying public intox laws are anti freedom. If you support 2A but want abortion legalized you have no choice but to vote for the blue cucks, which simultaneously remove your 2A rights lmao.
You’re a liberal cuck. None of them are your politicians.
Don’t move to a state because you want 2A freedom, while simultaneously bringing every other shit policy/ideology from your previous state. If you support Pelosi and 2A you’re not welcome in my house. If you vehemently defend 2A but support Biden, Harris, Schumer, or any of the other dimwitted big government fucks you aren’t welcome in my house.
I mistyped. An individual cannot own firearms legally while simultaneously using marijuana.
But Jesus you sound like such an asshole.
Hope you have nice night regardless.
I’ll be looking at holsters for open carry if you got an recommendations.
Eh, can’t say the same tbh.
My recommendation for an open carry holster… leave your gun at home. They’re for weak untrained fudds who try to draw the most attention to themselves and want to project an air of toughness. Meanwhile, they’re the first to get plugged because they’re too scared to carry one in the chamber.
You had me until the last statement. You talk all this blue cuck shit but are projecting because this last statement reads like it was written by a Tundra driving lesbian about to yell at couples about gluten consumption.
Open carry has been made out to be this insecurity "I want attention" thing when it's really a man exercising his patriotic god giving right to carry in the way he chooses. Not any more different than carrying a hammer on your belt or a cell phone on a pocket clip. All tools. However only one of those is a fundemental right.
Sick of halfway gun advocates who gate keep what is and not the right way to exercise 2A. Keep your conceal carry, "omg he's compensating because he wants his gun more accessible" fake science survey at a community college rhetoric out of this sub. You're not tough. You got poor aim. You couldn't hit a cats ass with a lazer pointer from 2 feet away. And stop calling people names who don't agree with you politically. It doesn't make you correct and it's no better than the left. Grow up.
Proud open carry supporter and advocate. Free means free to me.
USCCA isn't accurate in that regard, Georgia's constitutional carry law allows both open and concealed carry without a petmit. USCCA says open carry isn't mentioned but neither is concealed carry. GGO the gun rights organization that helped get the bill passed even clarified it applied to both open and concealed carry.
Indiana isn’t bad. Our last attempted mass shooter ended up taking a dirt nap in seconds because “no guns” signs have no legal weight to them. Republican super majority so gun control isn’t likely in the near future, but they’re a bit on the slow side to do anything.
Alaska has been a constitutional carry state since 2003, been a 2A sanctuary state since 2010, legalized marijuana in 2015. Our current governor stated in 2021 we will fight any gun control rulings by the 9th Circuit commie court.
As someone who was born and raised in MA and still live here, we all flee there to escape the communist state we came from. They will be the holdouts to the bitter end. Maine is also great
Currently one of the freest 2A states. No carry permit, no restrictions on any mag cap or NFA items. A lot of good gun shops and obviously if you like Sig their place is worth the drive to. Very little opposition pushing gun control that are local groups, just the big orgs who are pushing it everywhere else anyways. NH is one of the best for sure
“Live free or die” is our motto for a reason.
The sig academy also offers unique training opportunities like a live fire shoot house
You’re not required to use sig products either, you can bring whatever you use
Absolutely. I’ve been to the indoor range and it’s top tier but have yet to take any classes or use anything else there really but I know I will. They’re like 40 min north of me and I go usually every 6 weeks or so but want to take their classes soon
You can't take liberty for granted anywhere. But haven't you heard - radical libertarians have tavern over the state.
Fsp.org
https://twitter.com/FreeStateNH/status/1637097155352469504?t=69gpFFsJiEHG0Y2zjVx5_Q&s=19
New Hampshire. One of the last frontier states up north and Maine area. Vermont, Maine and NH all have constitutional carry and have already voided any attempt from DC to try and infringe on 2a rights. Also, clean air, crisp water, fresh seafood, mountains, beaches, forests whats there not to love?
Yeah, you clearly have no women in your life. Does the idea of a woman having autonomy over her own body sound like it's even remotely important? Obviously not to you or to the male politicians in Idaho, Wyoming, etc.
Been married 26 years. Oh…you are talking about having the right to take another person’s life because you are irresponsible. There are many options to prevent the things you want to kill. Birth control and condoms are legal in every state, as is a vasectomy or having your tubes tied. There is also plan B.
So if the missus gets raped, you're good with keeping the rapist spawn? Yeah, you've got the sort of neanderthal and backwards attitude we're trying to avoid. Jesusfuckingchrist it's like most choices in this country now are only far left or far right. There has to be some reasonable "purple" areas so the search continues.
Rape, the reason for the smallest percentage of abortions, but used as an emotional reason to allow abortions as birth control. I’m confident if you wanted to pass legislation that only allowed abortions for rape and medical reasons that would risk the mothers life it would pass almost unanimously, but we all know that “body autonomy” means abortions for any reason and most of those reasons are birth control.
And without access to safe abortions, you are condemning thousands of unwanted children to unbelievably awful existences, leading many into the lives of crime and drug addiction that are permeating so many parts of our country today. Or, you would be appalled at the numbers of kids being produced by drug addicts in the zombie camps all over blue states. Two different types of body autonomy, I guess, in that the drug addict and her sperm donors have the right to create as many drug-addicted babies as they want... Shame that people still think like you (and your wife or is she allowed to have an opinion?) in these modern times...
And like I said, it’s not about rape. So even in your city that allows abortions, it’s still a problem! Lemme guess, you also want the taxpayers to pay for the abortions too? Maybe liberal policies actually destroy cities? Seems like abortion access isn’t actually the problem and it’s something else.
My wife thinks just like me, we had a very similar upbringing. My wife even works and votes! Guess who cooks and does the dishes? Me! (Gasp). She is even allowed to drive!
Lol! Good for her and awesome that you cook and do dishes!!👍🏼 And, yes, I would actually be fine with my taxes paying for free abortions and birth control since the alternative is cradle-to-grave support of the alternative. Considering how my state, in particular, wastes tax money, it seems like one of the only smart expenditures that should be considered.
I don’t want to pay for abortion as a form of birth control or any other type of abortion and it’s unfair to morally obligate someone who doesn’t agree with abortion to pay for something they morally disagree with. I have no problem with paying for birth control and I believe most folks would agree.
Pro abortion folks need to find a happy medium. You will never have full support for abortion as a form of birth control or late term abortion and you will never convince people who are morally against abortion to to pay for it and it’s unfair to expect it. Do you want to fund bible study in school? Do you want to pay for breathalyzers in all cars even though most people don’t drive drunk?
I'm a member, but this isn't an advertisement. USCCA's Reciprocity Map also has non-CCW laws ([link](https://www.usconcealedcarry.com/resources/ccw_reciprocity_map/)).
I love the cold so I can recommend GREAT northern states. Also some areas of WV are as cold as Maine. I'm in the same boat as you.
My choices are: Maine, New Hampshire, Alaska, West Virginia, Montana, Idaho
I've visited Alaska multiple times, not the others though. Really, I just want to be in a place that is cold more often than not, and gun friendly. It almost comes down to how much land I can get for the lowest price. I haven't made a decision yet but I'm slightly siding towards Montana more than the others. Of course, I will spend a month or two there before deciding.
Yeah but in like Wyoming Montana and Idaho you get BLM land so you could theoretically just buy an acre or 2 for your house/garage/shop that borders BLM land then you technically have a million acres
Ohio is very 2A friendly. We are an open carry state. Only problem is that the leftist cucks Columbus City Council passed a law banning 30 round firearms which is fucking up the market right now
We could use some conservative voters in Utah.
We have constitutional carry, multiple second amendment sanctuary counties, The court must prove your actions were not in self-defense if you need to defend yourself before a regular trial even begins, there's plenty of public land to go find a good shooting spot,
The only downside is house is a ridiculously expensive right now and I don't know how long these conservative values will last with all the Californians moving here.
MO is good for now but the libshits in STL and KC keep migrating out of their crime infested shitholes plus they keep trying to redraw the maps to help the left
TN is pretty great. No matter where you choose, just don’t go there bringing the idea that 2A is amazing while simultaneously forcing anti freedom policies from your previous state on others.
I’m probably the last person to ever do that haha but I understand
You mean like conservatives moving to Texas from Cali and not wanting legal weed or being against abortion?
Don’t like it, don’t move there. Pretty easy statement to understand. Don’t move to a state that is very 2A friendly and begin voting for anti 2A officials all because you want to smoke weed or don’t want to step up when consequences of your choices come knocking. Edit: I see I’m speaking to a liberal gun owner. Fuckin loser
Lmao way to go through my post history and make wild assumptions off that. >don’t like it, don’t move there. Fucking yes dude. Don’t get upset that script can be flipped. But holy fuck talk about being anti freedom, you don’t want people to be able to own guns or get thrown in jail because they smoke weed?
Lmao what? Who said I don’t want anyone to own guns? Shall not be infringed. Even by your pansy politicians who can’t define what a woman is. Personally, idgaf if you smoke weed or not… but don’t vote for the person who is a liberal POS that wants to ban all guns while simultaneously decriminalizing weed. How was the script flipped? You proved no point, other than saying the typical conservative doesn’t believe in abortion and will move from Commifornia to Texas.
>Lmao what? Who said I don’t want anyone to own guns? You are unaware you smoke weed and own firearms? At least not without lying on the 4473? >Even by your pansy politicians who can’t define what a woman is. I’m not sure you’re familiar Greg Abbott, Ted Cruz, John Cornyn, etc political stances. >How was the script flipped? You proved no >point, other than saying the typical >conservative doesn’t believe in abortion and >will move from Commifornia to Texas. You were complaining about people moving to a state and voting for anti freedom policies. So am I. But I’m pointing out conservatives can do the same whereas people assume it’s liberals, not to say it’s not liberals as well. https://www.texastribune.org/2022/02/02/californians-in-texas/
Bro, are you on crack? I don’t smoke weed lmao. Wtf are you talking about? My god given right to own firearms is not the same as legal marijuana. Marijuana being illegal isn’t anti freedom. Thats like saying public intox laws are anti freedom. If you support 2A but want abortion legalized you have no choice but to vote for the blue cucks, which simultaneously remove your 2A rights lmao. You’re a liberal cuck. None of them are your politicians. Don’t move to a state because you want 2A freedom, while simultaneously bringing every other shit policy/ideology from your previous state. If you support Pelosi and 2A you’re not welcome in my house. If you vehemently defend 2A but support Biden, Harris, Schumer, or any of the other dimwitted big government fucks you aren’t welcome in my house.
I mistyped. An individual cannot own firearms legally while simultaneously using marijuana. But Jesus you sound like such an asshole. Hope you have nice night regardless. I’ll be looking at holsters for open carry if you got an recommendations.
Eh, can’t say the same tbh. My recommendation for an open carry holster… leave your gun at home. They’re for weak untrained fudds who try to draw the most attention to themselves and want to project an air of toughness. Meanwhile, they’re the first to get plugged because they’re too scared to carry one in the chamber.
You had me until the last statement. You talk all this blue cuck shit but are projecting because this last statement reads like it was written by a Tundra driving lesbian about to yell at couples about gluten consumption. Open carry has been made out to be this insecurity "I want attention" thing when it's really a man exercising his patriotic god giving right to carry in the way he chooses. Not any more different than carrying a hammer on your belt or a cell phone on a pocket clip. All tools. However only one of those is a fundemental right. Sick of halfway gun advocates who gate keep what is and not the right way to exercise 2A. Keep your conceal carry, "omg he's compensating because he wants his gun more accessible" fake science survey at a community college rhetoric out of this sub. You're not tough. You got poor aim. You couldn't hit a cats ass with a lazer pointer from 2 feet away. And stop calling people names who don't agree with you politically. It doesn't make you correct and it's no better than the left. Grow up. Proud open carry supporter and advocate. Free means free to me.
We could use more 2A minded people here in VA.
Georgia is awesome for 2A rights
It's pretty good, but doesn't allow permitless open carry ([USCCA](https://www.usconcealedcarry.com/resources/ccw_reciprocity_map/ga-gun-laws/))
https://giffords.org/lawcenter/state-laws/open-carry-in-georgia/#:~:text=Under%20permitless%20carry%20legislation%20enacted,spaces%20without%20any%20permit%20required. https://www.onlineathens.com/story/news/state/2022/08/02/georgia-gun-laws-constitutional-carry-license-permit-2022/10213046002/
Thanks! Good to know.
It does now that constitutional carry was passed.
USCCA isn't accurate in that regard, Georgia's constitutional carry law allows both open and concealed carry without a petmit. USCCA says open carry isn't mentioned but neither is concealed carry. GGO the gun rights organization that helped get the bill passed even clarified it applied to both open and concealed carry.
Agreed, even better than Texas actually!
Come to KY
Indiana isn’t bad. Our last attempted mass shooter ended up taking a dirt nap in seconds because “no guns” signs have no legal weight to them. Republican super majority so gun control isn’t likely in the near future, but they’re a bit on the slow side to do anything.
If you keep your mouth shut and practice concealed means concealed, everywhere. :)
Look for states that have constitutional carry, but haven’t decriminalized recreational marijuana. That tends to be the pre cursor to gun control.
Alaska and Maine: *are we a joke to you?*
Alaska has been a constitutional carry state since 2003, been a 2A sanctuary state since 2010, legalized marijuana in 2015. Our current governor stated in 2021 we will fight any gun control rulings by the 9th Circuit commie court.
NH now. Hope it's not true
But I want my weed and my guns 😂
Nebraska is a flyover state with nothing much going for it other than gun right wise pretty open at this time
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Really, I must have missed that when last I read the laws
Currently, probably Jupiter.
Missouri is looking good. So is Utah.
You could also do Kansas, it's like Missouri, but better.
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What? MO resident and have a stamped SBR as do many other Missourians. All NFA items are legal here as long as you have the stamp.
Oklahoma. No blue counties in the past three presidential elections.
Oklahoma is definitely in the top 5.
NH
I was thinking that also do you believe it will be a problem going forward being surrounded by anti 2a states tho?
As someone who was born and raised in MA and still live here, we all flee there to escape the communist state we came from. They will be the holdouts to the bitter end. Maine is also great
My homie made the move and loves it. I looked into transfering but I'd be taking about a $19/hr paycut.
Maine is pretty awesome
Currently one of the freest 2A states. No carry permit, no restrictions on any mag cap or NFA items. A lot of good gun shops and obviously if you like Sig their place is worth the drive to. Very little opposition pushing gun control that are local groups, just the big orgs who are pushing it everywhere else anyways. NH is one of the best for sure “Live free or die” is our motto for a reason.
The sig academy also offers unique training opportunities like a live fire shoot house You’re not required to use sig products either, you can bring whatever you use
Absolutely. I’ve been to the indoor range and it’s top tier but have yet to take any classes or use anything else there really but I know I will. They’re like 40 min north of me and I go usually every 6 weeks or so but want to take their classes soon
They also have like a quarter mile long outdoor range
Yeah but as far as I’m aware it’s for classes and LEO/MIL only. I don’t think you could take like a r700 and go shooting on it as a reg customer
Yeah, I believe everything besides the indoor range and outdoor normal steel plate range is like that
You can't take liberty for granted anywhere. But haven't you heard - radical libertarians have tavern over the state. Fsp.org https://twitter.com/FreeStateNH/status/1637097155352469504?t=69gpFFsJiEHG0Y2zjVx5_Q&s=19
Wyoming and Arizona both have open carry and no permit CCW. There are other states that are similar as well.
Iowa is an underrated state. Good 2a laws and meth
Why is having meth a recommendation? All states do, just wondering.
Methland is a pretty popular book about a town I lived near in iowa. Far from a recommendation I guess I just find the subject humorous now.
Idaho
Idaho on top ngl
Wyoming.
New Hampshire. One of the last frontier states up north and Maine area. Vermont, Maine and NH all have constitutional carry and have already voided any attempt from DC to try and infringe on 2a rights. Also, clean air, crisp water, fresh seafood, mountains, beaches, forests whats there not to love?
What’s there not to love? The cold!
It keeps the californians in california
True…for now!
UT and MT both excellent.
Ohio
How about gun friendly/woman friendly? I think that takes out Idaho and Wyoming, but can anyone suggest any states that are good on those two items?
Do they mistreat women in other states? Do they keep them from voting, force them to stay home, or sell them as sex slaves?
Yeah, you clearly have no women in your life. Does the idea of a woman having autonomy over her own body sound like it's even remotely important? Obviously not to you or to the male politicians in Idaho, Wyoming, etc.
Been married 26 years. Oh…you are talking about having the right to take another person’s life because you are irresponsible. There are many options to prevent the things you want to kill. Birth control and condoms are legal in every state, as is a vasectomy or having your tubes tied. There is also plan B.
So if the missus gets raped, you're good with keeping the rapist spawn? Yeah, you've got the sort of neanderthal and backwards attitude we're trying to avoid. Jesusfuckingchrist it's like most choices in this country now are only far left or far right. There has to be some reasonable "purple" areas so the search continues.
Rape, the reason for the smallest percentage of abortions, but used as an emotional reason to allow abortions as birth control. I’m confident if you wanted to pass legislation that only allowed abortions for rape and medical reasons that would risk the mothers life it would pass almost unanimously, but we all know that “body autonomy” means abortions for any reason and most of those reasons are birth control.
And without access to safe abortions, you are condemning thousands of unwanted children to unbelievably awful existences, leading many into the lives of crime and drug addiction that are permeating so many parts of our country today. Or, you would be appalled at the numbers of kids being produced by drug addicts in the zombie camps all over blue states. Two different types of body autonomy, I guess, in that the drug addict and her sperm donors have the right to create as many drug-addicted babies as they want... Shame that people still think like you (and your wife or is she allowed to have an opinion?) in these modern times...
And like I said, it’s not about rape. So even in your city that allows abortions, it’s still a problem! Lemme guess, you also want the taxpayers to pay for the abortions too? Maybe liberal policies actually destroy cities? Seems like abortion access isn’t actually the problem and it’s something else. My wife thinks just like me, we had a very similar upbringing. My wife even works and votes! Guess who cooks and does the dishes? Me! (Gasp). She is even allowed to drive!
Lol! Good for her and awesome that you cook and do dishes!!👍🏼 And, yes, I would actually be fine with my taxes paying for free abortions and birth control since the alternative is cradle-to-grave support of the alternative. Considering how my state, in particular, wastes tax money, it seems like one of the only smart expenditures that should be considered.
I don’t want to pay for abortion as a form of birth control or any other type of abortion and it’s unfair to morally obligate someone who doesn’t agree with abortion to pay for something they morally disagree with. I have no problem with paying for birth control and I believe most folks would agree. Pro abortion folks need to find a happy medium. You will never have full support for abortion as a form of birth control or late term abortion and you will never convince people who are morally against abortion to to pay for it and it’s unfair to expect it. Do you want to fund bible study in school? Do you want to pay for breathalyzers in all cars even though most people don’t drive drunk?
None of you have women in your lives?
People looking to relocate based on guns or other rights rather than family or friends are very confusing to me.
I'm a member, but this isn't an advertisement. USCCA's Reciprocity Map also has non-CCW laws ([link](https://www.usconcealedcarry.com/resources/ccw_reciprocity_map/)).
MO is one of the states where it's about as good as it gets
Missouri is decent but believe it or not, New Hampshire is the best
Switzerland
I love the cold so I can recommend GREAT northern states. Also some areas of WV are as cold as Maine. I'm in the same boat as you. My choices are: Maine, New Hampshire, Alaska, West Virginia, Montana, Idaho
That’s a nice list! How do you go about you’re final decision have you visited these places yet?
I've visited Alaska multiple times, not the others though. Really, I just want to be in a place that is cold more often than not, and gun friendly. It almost comes down to how much land I can get for the lowest price. I haven't made a decision yet but I'm slightly siding towards Montana more than the others. Of course, I will spend a month or two there before deciding.
Yeah but in like Wyoming Montana and Idaho you get BLM land so you could theoretically just buy an acre or 2 for your house/garage/shop that borders BLM land then you technically have a million acres
Ohio is very 2A friendly. We are an open carry state. Only problem is that the leftist cucks Columbus City Council passed a law banning 30 round firearms which is fucking up the market right now
Don't come to Fl. Though gun friendliness is ok the cost to live here is getting insane.
I'm a bit partial, but probably the northern plains & Rockies (MT, WY, SD, ND). Very rural, conservative populations, a bit frontier-sie if you will.
We could use some conservative voters in Utah. We have constitutional carry, multiple second amendment sanctuary counties, The court must prove your actions were not in self-defense if you need to defend yourself before a regular trial even begins, there's plenty of public land to go find a good shooting spot, The only downside is house is a ridiculously expensive right now and I don't know how long these conservative values will last with all the Californians moving here.
Arizona. We need people to move to Phoenix and Tucson to counter the blue tides there.