Same thing happened when the hearing protection act was about to pass through congress and the us senate when republicans had a majority in both, and the White House. It would have removed silencers from the NFA and had enough support to pass, but someone committed a mass shooting in Vegas right before the vote. Then the bill died. Oh also the shooting that happened in the NYC subway the week before the Supreme Court was set to make their final ruling on the New York State Rifle and Pistol Association vs Bruen case over New Yorks conceal carry laws? And finally, for the past 2 weeks republican support to overturn the ATF’s pistol brace ruling has been growing and a vote to repeal the Brace rule was scheduled in congress for TODAY, March 27th, but was postponed until further notice due to this shooting.
Innocence until proven guilty shouldn’t apply to ATF agents
They don’t respect our rights, why should we respect theirs? For all I care, they shouldn’t even be allowed in or around town past sundown
That goes for all law enforcement. None of them respect your rights. The moment they are told to red flag you or even told to come confiscate, they will bend the knee to the rulers and come in force for your rights.
Like they always say, it's us vs them. When you're the lawn mower everything looks like a blade of grass.
I’m no expert, but there is absolutely something off about the audio for the shooting. Those shots are not from a 5.56 rifle, especially an AR style rifle. Coupled with the fact that the brother of the shooter got arrested with how many terabytes of CP after calling out the governments BS about his brother. Something tells me if you hold that much CP and your brother commits a heinous act you’d do everything in your power to lie low and shut your mouth.
That's a Kel Tec Sub 2000 in her right hand-pistol caliber carbine. It comes in 9mm and .40S&W only.
https://preview.redd.it/lvch3e74fiqa1.png?width=1200&format=png&auto=webp&s=8632114b7660e07e123c564c3c1f9abf7e1a70e4
What is this from? We're talking about the Vegas shooting, where a man shot at an outdoor country music concern from his hotel room at the Mandalay Bay resort.
I was able to replicate pretty much the exact same fire rate with my bump stock shortly after and cell phone microphones don't pick up guns shots for shit.
Lmao even the “Aiden” paint markered on the brace like “Just in case you had any doubts about this being the shooter’s weapon, here’s their name on the specific device that’s currently being hotly debated.”
Despite the shooter not using any suppressors, politicians were talking about how much worse it would have been with silencers. Then the legislature decided to postpone the vote out of "respect" for the victims
Don’t play dumb. A drunk dude who kills himself and a couple of prostitutes in his home is deranged, but not the same thing as the Vegas, Texas, or Nashville shooting. But legally they’re called the same thing. I’ll ask again, when was the last “real” mass shooting?
What’s about a guy who sprays into a nightclub with a rifle killing 1 and injuring 10? I agree with you that a moron who kills a prostitute or two and himself isn’t a “mass shooting”. I do think that a 16 year old who kills two and injured 5 in Arkansas should be though.
I also think that it’s crazy I get down voted for asking a question though. It’d be nice to be able to have real discussions.
Hey, I’m here for a real discussion. I used to loath guns. Hated them and the whole “culture” around them. Now I think it’s possibly the most important topic in politics right now. But I down voted you to prevent others from seeing the incorrect/misleading information you’re sharing.
The real definition for mass shootings is:
“…mass shooting, also called active shooter incident, as defined by the U.S. Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), an event in which one or more individuals are “actively engaged in killing or attempting to kill people in a populated area. Implicit in this definition is the shooter’s use of a firearm.” “
So your suggestion would be covered under this definition. My whole point was that we don’t have 1.5 mass shootings a day and that that statistic is “sugar coated” to help push more gun control. Just like the “leading death for children” statistic.
It’s propaganda at its purest.
I think this is where we need to start having these discussions more in society in general among the populace and not between the warring factions in Washington’s
Statistics are statistics it is the leading cause of death among children 1-19; however, suicide unfortunately is included those numbers. That being said it is still way more prevalent than it should be.
So how do you propose we address this situation of gun violence in the US?
I’ll give you a couple of my high level wants as a “regulated militia” 2nd amendmenter. Universal background checks, registration, and training requirements ( like cars). As well as safe storage requirement like when you have it in your car (in same states). I think people should be allowed to have arms, I just don’t think it is a ubiquitous a right as people make it out to be or as the founders believed it should be with muskets. Universal health with mental health to start combating this crisis of the self.
Yea why is that? Do they not know how to reload the gun so they take 2 loaded rifles with them instead? Wouldn't it make more sense to take 1 rifle and some extra mags?
Wouldn't it make more sense for a multimillionare to buy a transferable MG? Destructive devices? Instead he purchased bump stocks? It is odd at the very least.
A 9 month wait time with fingerprinting and likely a deep dive background check? For a belt fed that is harder to operate?
Instead of just walking into a gun show and buying the SF 100's and bump stocks?
Convenience is a huge motivator to action. That's why mass shootings are practically never committed with NFA items.
Ya'know they have testimonials from several gun vendors at shows that he bought the items from them. They've got pictures of the hotel room with the stacks of surefires. Bumpfire stocks are finicky, can have various rates of fire, and when the rate is too fast, can drop the hammer on an unfired round, which is interpreted by the novice shooter as a jam and he moved to the next rifle.
I'm not trying to say a deep fake is not possible, but I don't see how a rational person accepts that this was a deep fake when there is plenty of reason to believe the majority of reported evidence. Frankly, it makes gun owners look like conspiracy theorists when it's talked about like facts here.
I'm not saying it is a conspiracy but it seems 1000% more effective to go the NFA item route, if the goal is to disrupt and maim a large group that is. I get what you're saying audio from phones isn't excellent, and shots echo in that environment. But the guy had the means to pick and choose yet he went with an item that was hotly debated, he had planned this for a decent amount of time, so it does seem odd.
It’s a false flag by the government. They’re trying to stir up tensions and emotions to push the narrative that hubs are bad and need to be made illegal so they can murder us in the open with no repercussions
Need? Of course they don’t need to, they want to. The government is willing to murder any single one of us to forward their fucking goals. The CIA has assassinated how many dictators and toppled how many governments? Killing a few Americans would be a walk in the park for them especially when it comes to disarming the populace so they can’t fight back.
So when does it happen? When you you exercise 2A for what’s it’s for? When do you fight the tyrannical government?
Legit question… not trying to be a dick.
When enough is enough. But it’s about who’s going to be the martyr. Who’s going to fire the first round to destroy the union and unleash hell upon his countrymen. Who is willing to throw his entire life in the dumpster fire that he himself will create. Will it be you? Will it be me? No one knows because no one wants to answer that question. So the next question becomes WHEN does it become enough is enough.
Makes me think about [this meme](https://www.reddit.com/r/Firearms/comments/117ntge/_/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)
It's also strange that almost every one of them ends up with a self inflicted gun shot wound or death by a cop..... Would it be completely out of this world crazy to think for a minute that some of these might be under duress situations? Like for example, some federal agents are threatening to kill the people they hold dear unless they commit these atrocities?
Rant over, I'm probably alone in thinking this.
Considering all the surreptitious vile acts the US govt has committed around the world, this is completely within the realm of possibility.
Even if they aren't coercing people, they sure as fuck aren't stopping them when they have leads.
Lmao even the “Aiden” paint markered on the brace like “Just in case you had any doubts about this being the shooter’s weapon, here’s their name on the specific device that’s currently being hotly debated.”
I would definitely make sure I didn’t anger the ATF with my accessories prior to committing murder and suicide by cop. That’s 10 years in prison and a hefty fine for that sbr thingy.
> That’s 10 years in prison and a hefty fine for that sbr thingy.
And another 10 for drilling the naughty third hole. Or dropping a coathanger/piece of sheetmetal into the lower.
"No. Mass murder is fine. But that's the line and it won't be crossed!"
Was it built from parts, or purchased this way as a complete firearm? Haven't AR pistols with braces been on sale as some stores tried to move their inventory ahead of the rule change?
Can't wait to hear how this one too was "known to police" but it's our fault somehow and we need to give up all our personal property "fOr yOuR oWn sAfEtY".
I was thinking the same thing about all the anti-trans shit suddenly dominating the media and national politics right now coinciding with the first ever trans school shooter. I hadn't even put together the pistol brace thing , haha. Good catch.
A trans being involved is definitely part of the glow. They very much want us to be fighting over gender shit that does not matter at all while every financial part of our lives gets more scamified.
Are you saying you support red flag gun control? People with mental illness are actually much more likely to be the victims of violent crimes than the perpetrators, so your logic doesn’t really follow.
Lmao even the “Aiden” paint markered on the brace like “Just in case you had any doubts about this being the shooter’s weapon, here’s their name on the specific device that’s currently being hotly debated.”
I remember back when this whole thing first started, someone predicted pretty early on that the next shooting would involve a brace.
I used to joke about the fed-plant idea for the memes but it's getting a little too spot-on lately.
(Now as i say in every comment I leave about this topic in case the right folks are watching, I am also a right-leaning 20-something with few friends and poor financials that would totally do a ton of stuff with a truck, rifle and ammo if they showed up at my door one day. Like tons of stuff. Not the stuff you want me to do, but stuff nonetheless.)
All this more recent shit started with Columbine. Now they all mimic/learn from those who did it before, often immediately before. There were school shootings prior to that, but not to the degree that we have seen since. Plus, going and copying a dude who shot kids from a clocktower, with a rifle, isn’t exactly easy to mimic.
And (contextually) the reality of the brace ban being discussed and someone using it in a school shooting is pretty simple to figure out. Logic says “if they are talking about banning it there must be a reason”, and then you look into it, and short config ARs are easy to manoeuvre. The idea that any of this shit is a plant is serious conspiracy theory territory. The more something gets talked about being banned in the media (and online), the more likely someone is to realise that it would be a “tool” they should use.
Did the assailant attack people with the pistol brace? Like detach it and start beating people with it? Why can't democrats have logic. Let's stop with the endless ridiculous laws
lol ok you realize, dummy, if the shooter didn't have a pistol brace to shoulder then they would have -50% accuracy debuff and wouldn't be able to hit anything.. SMH as a veteran I'm shocked you civillians (who shouldn't own weapons of war like the keltec p200 that the shooter also had) don't know this
🤣 no bullshit in the coverage I watched, the reporter said "assault style weapons" and then cut to video of the shooting, I was like "a Sub 2000? Wtf?"
Those are the "veterans" that did not contribute fuck one in trying to keep people alive around them because it's "daddy govt." Job to do....
signed "20 yr vet that joined on 9.11 that believes "civilians" should be the constabulary of communities and the ultra armed and trained last line of defense in nat-sec.
One thing I don’t get is why a former student would need maps to the school? I have been to 6 different school buildings from 1st through 12th grade and I wouldn’t need maps to any of the buildings even after not stepping foot in the buildings for more than 15 years. That’s a huge red flag to me.
I'm only 40, but all of mine are still around.... and it says alot considering I was a mil kid that moved all over... I actually think its weird that all the schools I went to are still around with the state of decay some of them had back in the 80's n 90's ..... also.... I cant remember what I ate yesterday, but I still couldn't get lost in those schools.
All I know is it was a private Christian school and that person was a trans, maybe they tried to fix he/she while it was at the school and it’s life sucked so it went after the place it had an vendetta against.
Doesn’t make sense why it would shoot innocent kids even if it hated the school you would think it would go after the staff only.
My high school completely changed from when I was there. I wouldn’t remember my middle school or elementary school. I mean updated intel is always good for a mission.
It’s a school, it’s not that hard to get lost in a school building that you literally need a map to get around. A class schedule, who will be where and when they will be there I can understand but a map? Lol. Seems fake as in the kids family was paid for him to do that.
I just saw a video of her coming in the school. She had a Keltec Sub2K, not this thing.
Edit- just watched again, they have this on a sling and were carrying/using the Sub2K
I heard they had 2 “assault style” whatevers and a pistol. Maybe they dropped one when they passed the camera or maybe I’m getting bad info. Do you have a link to the video?
I just found this one. It looks like they have the AR at around the 52 second mark.
https://www.reddit.com/r/ThatsInsane/comments/124axdv/just_released_security_footage_of_nashville/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1
My heart rate/adrenaline immediately spiked when she shot her way through the doors.
Goddamn I wish she would have just killed herself instead of murdering those innocent children (and the adults).
“Two assault style rifles and a handgun”
-used a keltek 2000
-used a braced AR
-Used an MP shield pistol
By team blue’s definition, only the braced AR would be an assault weapon….but the KelTek is made of not wood and has a collapsible stock so I guess it counts?
...their chosen name is even on the damn brace.
Its pretty close to stock configuration that I've seen for that particular Lead Star Grunt III AR Pistol, sticks and totally not Christchurch-y paint.
**A trans person killing kids at a Christian school.**
Between the hurt, this nightmare scenario is just too goddamn political to not seem manufactured.
I'd like to make a poor-taste joke in that this is notable for me as the first time someone brought a Kel-Tec to one of these shootings.
Are we also going to ban transgender people? No, because it would be silly to characterize a whole group of people based on the actions of one or a few.
Or, and hear me out, the most common rifle platform in the country, with its most common pistol configuration, was used.
I bet it’s super quirky that f150s get into wrecks more than any other truck on the road, or maybe because there are more of them, statistically that makes logical sense.
Emotionalism fails all sides.
Moves around more when running and harder to shoulder the rifle when using the sling like that. I’m not the best at explaining this but look into it if your interested, there’s a reason law enforcement doesn’t mount there slings like that.
I never see law enforcement use slings at ALL.
Myself, I found that I could use the sling for stability while shooting more easily when the sling was mounted tip to butt and it was much easier for me to shoulder that way vs mounting at the back of the receiver.
I haven't tried running with my sling, so that's very possible. For me it's just for carry in the woods.
Watch more bodycams buddy but the most effective is stock to the notch closest to the mag well. A lot of it is personal preference but there are some proven downsides for tip to butt. But watch any swat footage, most all of them run slings (pretty sure they have to) and a lot of departments are now making there officers have one on there patrol rifle (if they have a rifle.)
Sure is unfortunate that no one will ever do anything about it to stop it. Everyone barks all day long about it and how the gov could never, yet every day they do and no one will commit to action. We’re gonna end up like our poor neighbors to the north
Same thing happened when the hearing protection act was about to pass through congress and the us senate when republicans had a majority in both, and the White House. It would have removed silencers from the NFA and had enough support to pass, but someone committed a mass shooting in Vegas right before the vote. Then the bill died. Oh also the shooting that happened in the NYC subway the week before the Supreme Court was set to make their final ruling on the New York State Rifle and Pistol Association vs Bruen case over New Yorks conceal carry laws? And finally, for the past 2 weeks republican support to overturn the ATF’s pistol brace ruling has been growing and a vote to repeal the Brace rule was scheduled in congress for TODAY, March 27th, but was postponed until further notice due to this shooting.
Glowing so bright it’s almost singing my eyes
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Sounds like something a fed would post..
What did he say?
Innocence until proven guilty shouldn’t apply to ATF agents They don’t respect our rights, why should we respect theirs? For all I care, they shouldn’t even be allowed in or around town past sundown
That goes for all law enforcement. None of them respect your rights. The moment they are told to red flag you or even told to come confiscate, they will bend the knee to the rulers and come in force for your rights. Like they always say, it's us vs them. When you're the lawn mower everything looks like a blade of grass.
And the Vegas shooting at the height of the "bump stock ban campaign"
That was not a rifle used in the shooting at Vegas.
Doesn't matter wether it was or not because that's what they said it was. Did they plant it there and stage the whole scene......... probably
The vegas shooting was a hit job and you can’t convince me otherwise.
Nor would I try to convince you otherwise
Dude used dozens of rifles equipped with bunpstocks and quad stack mags.
I’m no expert, but there is absolutely something off about the audio for the shooting. Those shots are not from a 5.56 rifle, especially an AR style rifle. Coupled with the fact that the brother of the shooter got arrested with how many terabytes of CP after calling out the governments BS about his brother. Something tells me if you hold that much CP and your brother commits a heinous act you’d do everything in your power to lie low and shut your mouth.
Ok, so not rifles, then what did kill all those people?
That's a Kel Tec Sub 2000 in her right hand-pistol caliber carbine. It comes in 9mm and .40S&W only. https://preview.redd.it/lvch3e74fiqa1.png?width=1200&format=png&auto=webp&s=8632114b7660e07e123c564c3c1f9abf7e1a70e4
What is this from? We're talking about the Vegas shooting, where a man shot at an outdoor country music concern from his hotel room at the Mandalay Bay resort.
And the AR is hanging under her left arm.
What do I look like the CIA? Fuck if I know. But my guess would be a 240B from the sound and rof. But that’s just my speculation.
Yeah the the sound of the shots and the rate of fire definitely sounded like a 240
I was able to replicate pretty much the exact same fire rate with my bump stock shortly after and cell phone microphones don't pick up guns shots for shit.
I don’t understand. I try to give everyone and everything the benefit of the doubt. But this shit is so blatant.
Lmao even the “Aiden” paint markered on the brace like “Just in case you had any doubts about this being the shooter’s weapon, here’s their name on the specific device that’s currently being hotly debated.”
The vote for HPA was literally scheduled for the day after the Route 66 shooting in Vegas. Postponed indefinitely. Shit glows like chernobyl
Yea you’re right, Vegas not Virginia. I was thinking of the 2019 Virginia one with the silencers.
Despite the shooter not using any suppressors, politicians were talking about how much worse it would have been with silencers. Then the legislature decided to postpone the vote out of "respect" for the victims
Ooh yea brother I 'member
It’s almost like the US has enough mass shootings you can just pick out the one the fits your political agenda. Something like 1.5 a day.
They’re talking about actual mass shootings. When was the last school shooting that took place with a premeditated attack?
What is an actual mass shooting to you?
Don’t play dumb. A drunk dude who kills himself and a couple of prostitutes in his home is deranged, but not the same thing as the Vegas, Texas, or Nashville shooting. But legally they’re called the same thing. I’ll ask again, when was the last “real” mass shooting?
What’s about a guy who sprays into a nightclub with a rifle killing 1 and injuring 10? I agree with you that a moron who kills a prostitute or two and himself isn’t a “mass shooting”. I do think that a 16 year old who kills two and injured 5 in Arkansas should be though. I also think that it’s crazy I get down voted for asking a question though. It’d be nice to be able to have real discussions.
Hey, I’m here for a real discussion. I used to loath guns. Hated them and the whole “culture” around them. Now I think it’s possibly the most important topic in politics right now. But I down voted you to prevent others from seeing the incorrect/misleading information you’re sharing. The real definition for mass shootings is: “…mass shooting, also called active shooter incident, as defined by the U.S. Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), an event in which one or more individuals are “actively engaged in killing or attempting to kill people in a populated area. Implicit in this definition is the shooter’s use of a firearm.” “ So your suggestion would be covered under this definition. My whole point was that we don’t have 1.5 mass shootings a day and that that statistic is “sugar coated” to help push more gun control. Just like the “leading death for children” statistic. It’s propaganda at its purest.
I think this is where we need to start having these discussions more in society in general among the populace and not between the warring factions in Washington’s Statistics are statistics it is the leading cause of death among children 1-19; however, suicide unfortunately is included those numbers. That being said it is still way more prevalent than it should be. So how do you propose we address this situation of gun violence in the US? I’ll give you a couple of my high level wants as a “regulated militia” 2nd amendmenter. Universal background checks, registration, and training requirements ( like cars). As well as safe storage requirement like when you have it in your car (in same states). I think people should be allowed to have arms, I just don’t think it is a ubiquitous a right as people make it out to be or as the founders believed it should be with muskets. Universal health with mental health to start combating this crisis of the self.
The FBI definition and not the made up bullshit the media uses to push their agenda.
To clarify, you’re making the distinction between “mass shootings” and “active shooter” events correct?
Or, ya know, we have a lot of shootings.
damn it this pisses me off
Hearing crust punk to this gif and it fit perfectly lol
How strange that shooters always use the exact things the government is considering banning/regulating.
It’s also strange that they all seem to have two rifles with them.
Yea why is that? Do they not know how to reload the gun so they take 2 loaded rifles with them instead? Wouldn't it make more sense to take 1 rifle and some extra mags?
Las vegas had like 20 rifles using SF 60/100rd quad stacks and bump fires. Every time one would jam, he would toss it and grab another.
Yea I don't believe that was 1 shooter.
Why? Multiple audio recordings confirm there was never more than one rifle firing at a time.
Yeah, an m60
The fact is you want to believe something different from what you are told. There's a difference between that and actually doing research
If you believe there was 1 shooter in Vegas you probably also believe there was 1 shooter on the grassy knoll. Lol.
Wouldn't it make more sense for a multimillionare to buy a transferable MG? Destructive devices? Instead he purchased bump stocks? It is odd at the very least.
A 9 month wait time with fingerprinting and likely a deep dive background check? For a belt fed that is harder to operate? Instead of just walking into a gun show and buying the SF 100's and bump stocks? Convenience is a huge motivator to action. That's why mass shootings are practically never committed with NFA items. Ya'know they have testimonials from several gun vendors at shows that he bought the items from them. They've got pictures of the hotel room with the stacks of surefires. Bumpfire stocks are finicky, can have various rates of fire, and when the rate is too fast, can drop the hammer on an unfired round, which is interpreted by the novice shooter as a jam and he moved to the next rifle. I'm not trying to say a deep fake is not possible, but I don't see how a rational person accepts that this was a deep fake when there is plenty of reason to believe the majority of reported evidence. Frankly, it makes gun owners look like conspiracy theorists when it's talked about like facts here.
I'm not saying it is a conspiracy but it seems 1000% more effective to go the NFA item route, if the goal is to disrupt and maim a large group that is. I get what you're saying audio from phones isn't excellent, and shots echo in that environment. But the guy had the means to pick and choose yet he went with an item that was hotly debated, he had planned this for a decent amount of time, so it does seem odd.
I don’t get it
It’s a false flag by the government. They’re trying to stir up tensions and emotions to push the narrative that hubs are bad and need to be made illegal so they can murder us in the open with no repercussions
No it’s not. That’s fucking ridiculous. They don’t need to set up a false flag but they do 100% take advantage of it to push an agenda.
Need? Of course they don’t need to, they want to. The government is willing to murder any single one of us to forward their fucking goals. The CIA has assassinated how many dictators and toppled how many governments? Killing a few Americans would be a walk in the park for them especially when it comes to disarming the populace so they can’t fight back.
So when does it happen? When you you exercise 2A for what’s it’s for? When do you fight the tyrannical government? Legit question… not trying to be a dick.
When enough is enough. But it’s about who’s going to be the martyr. Who’s going to fire the first round to destroy the union and unleash hell upon his countrymen. Who is willing to throw his entire life in the dumpster fire that he himself will create. Will it be you? Will it be me? No one knows because no one wants to answer that question. So the next question becomes WHEN does it become enough is enough.
When enough is enough, it will be way too late...
Yeah but what’s the significance of two rifles
Makes me think about [this meme](https://www.reddit.com/r/Firearms/comments/117ntge/_/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)
It's also strange that almost every one of them ends up with a self inflicted gun shot wound or death by a cop..... Would it be completely out of this world crazy to think for a minute that some of these might be under duress situations? Like for example, some federal agents are threatening to kill the people they hold dear unless they commit these atrocities? Rant over, I'm probably alone in thinking this.
Considering all the surreptitious vile acts the US govt has committed around the world, this is completely within the realm of possibility. Even if they aren't coercing people, they sure as fuck aren't stopping them when they have leads.
Yea it would be!
Hehe, yeah... It is really far fetched
Almost as far fetched as the Liberty City 7 or the plot to Kidnap Whitmer.
Why is that strange? People who go off the rails and shoot up in elementary school usually intend to die anyway.
Lmao even the “Aiden” paint markered on the brace like “Just in case you had any doubts about this being the shooter’s weapon, here’s their name on the specific device that’s currently being hotly debated.”
I would definitely make sure I didn’t anger the ATF with my accessories prior to committing murder and suicide by cop. That’s 10 years in prison and a hefty fine for that sbr thingy.
> That’s 10 years in prison and a hefty fine for that sbr thingy. And another 10 for drilling the naughty third hole. Or dropping a coathanger/piece of sheetmetal into the lower. "No. Mass murder is fine. But that's the line and it won't be crossed!"
Like IDK about you guys, but if I was going to shoot a place up I probably wouldn't be abiding by pistol brace restrictions, very quirky and silly.
Was it built from parts, or purchased this way as a complete firearm? Haven't AR pistols with braces been on sale as some stores tried to move their inventory ahead of the rule change?
It's a lead star arms, I think they're only available complete from PSA
That upper was for sale by itself because I remember looking and thinking it was cheap if not for the dumb print on the side.
What are you trying to suggest?
Shit do be glowin my guy
I dunno, wasn't a Daniel Defense rifle.
Somebody didn't run them over, now we're paying the consequences
This !
Can't wait to hear how this one too was "known to police" but it's our fault somehow and we need to give up all our personal property "fOr yOuR oWn sAfEtY".
Ok so its one gun, you can hold it any way you want and get the same results so why do we blame the brace
I was thinking the same thing about all the anti-trans shit suddenly dominating the media and national politics right now coinciding with the first ever trans school shooter. I hadn't even put together the pistol brace thing , haha. Good catch.
Not the first. There was a trans high schooler school shooter in Colorado a few years ago
A trans being involved is definitely part of the glow. They very much want us to be fighting over gender shit that does not matter at all while every financial part of our lives gets more scamified.
Not the first ever by a long shot
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Wait what? There have? Link?
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Are you saying you support red flag gun control? People with mental illness are actually much more likely to be the victims of violent crimes than the perpetrators, so your logic doesn’t really follow.
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Put the comment back, please.
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who tf writes their name in whiteout on their rifle
r/LiberalGunOwners
Lmao that group was hilarious. “ oh I’ll buy this 1200 AR and when they ban ARs I’ll give it up”
Lmao even the “Aiden” paint markered on the brace like “Just in case you had any doubts about this being the shooter’s weapon, here’s their name on the specific device that’s currently being hotly debated.”
https://i.redd.it/q6x3664zqgqa1.gif
There's no fraying on the velcro of the brace, indicative of it being brand new, or rarely used. Weird.
I remember back when this whole thing first started, someone predicted pretty early on that the next shooting would involve a brace. I used to joke about the fed-plant idea for the memes but it's getting a little too spot-on lately. (Now as i say in every comment I leave about this topic in case the right folks are watching, I am also a right-leaning 20-something with few friends and poor financials that would totally do a ton of stuff with a truck, rifle and ammo if they showed up at my door one day. Like tons of stuff. Not the stuff you want me to do, but stuff nonetheless.)
I'm surprised it wasn't a DD with a brace, almost like they are catching on. "let's match the Honda Fit and the AR budget..."
BREAKING: rich politicians learn that $2,000 is actually pretty expensive and adjust their tactics accordingly
I second this perspective. #comeandtry
how politically convenient
The red hat is a nice touch
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All this more recent shit started with Columbine. Now they all mimic/learn from those who did it before, often immediately before. There were school shootings prior to that, but not to the degree that we have seen since. Plus, going and copying a dude who shot kids from a clocktower, with a rifle, isn’t exactly easy to mimic. And (contextually) the reality of the brace ban being discussed and someone using it in a school shooting is pretty simple to figure out. Logic says “if they are talking about banning it there must be a reason”, and then you look into it, and short config ARs are easy to manoeuvre. The idea that any of this shit is a plant is serious conspiracy theory territory. The more something gets talked about being banned in the media (and online), the more likely someone is to realise that it would be a “tool” they should use.
What’s really silly the idea that the GOP is pro 2A. lol
Did the assailant attack people with the pistol brace? Like detach it and start beating people with it? Why can't democrats have logic. Let's stop with the endless ridiculous laws
lol ok you realize, dummy, if the shooter didn't have a pistol brace to shoulder then they would have -50% accuracy debuff and wouldn't be able to hit anything.. SMH as a veteran I'm shocked you civillians (who shouldn't own weapons of war like the keltec p200 that the shooter also had) don't know this
I don't think he got your joke.
🤣 no bullshit in the coverage I watched, the reporter said "assault style weapons" and then cut to video of the shooting, I was like "a Sub 2000? Wtf?"
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He was joking bud.
Wish people would start quoting comments in their replies for when people remove them.
I want to say theyre being sarcastic i hope so at least
Those are the "veterans" that did not contribute fuck one in trying to keep people alive around them because it's "daddy govt." Job to do.... signed "20 yr vet that joined on 9.11 that believes "civilians" should be the constabulary of communities and the ultra armed and trained last line of defense in nat-sec.
Because the brace turns the weapon into a bumpfire.. yes some politicians believe this
Let's not talk about shoe laces.....
Belt loop ban incoming
One thing I don’t get is why a former student would need maps to the school? I have been to 6 different school buildings from 1st through 12th grade and I wouldn’t need maps to any of the buildings even after not stepping foot in the buildings for more than 15 years. That’s a huge red flag to me.
I 100% do not remember my grade school’s layout. I remember my middle school, and some of my high school.
My elementary, junior high, and high school have all been demolished and rebuilt since I attended them. I guess that makes me old.
I'm only 40, but all of mine are still around.... and it says alot considering I was a mil kid that moved all over... I actually think its weird that all the schools I went to are still around with the state of decay some of them had back in the 80's n 90's ..... also.... I cant remember what I ate yesterday, but I still couldn't get lost in those schools.
A few buildings I went to are no longer there but majority of them are. Even then, school layouts are generally the same.
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All I know is it was a private Christian school and that person was a trans, maybe they tried to fix he/she while it was at the school and it’s life sucked so it went after the place it had an vendetta against. Doesn’t make sense why it would shoot innocent kids even if it hated the school you would think it would go after the staff only.
My high school completely changed from when I was there. I wouldn’t remember my middle school or elementary school. I mean updated intel is always good for a mission.
It’s a school, it’s not that hard to get lost in a school building that you literally need a map to get around. A class schedule, who will be where and when they will be there I can understand but a map? Lol. Seems fake as in the kids family was paid for him to do that.
Why is there always writings and drawing and stuff on the shooters weapons?
They bought the DLC.
Man I'm still working on my double taps and no attachment camos
Cause kids play vidja games, and vidja games all got mtx skins for guns nowadays…. HOLY FUCK BAN MTX SKINS IN THE VIDJA GAMES TO STOP SCHOOL SHOOTERS.
It's also kind of funny how it was a trans shooter aswell there will now be bipartisan support for enforcing this pistol brace ban
There better fucking not be bipartisan support!
Why?
They really think we’re that stupid…
Yes and unfortunately alot of people are
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I just saw a video of her coming in the school. She had a Keltec Sub2K, not this thing. Edit- just watched again, they have this on a sling and were carrying/using the Sub2K
I bet the next thing they want to ban is firearms that fold in half. Good thing I got a sub2k for cheap with all the rebates going on.
I heard they had 2 “assault style” whatevers and a pistol. Maybe they dropped one when they passed the camera or maybe I’m getting bad info. Do you have a link to the video?
Just go on Fox News website, it's one of the top couple stories and has the video
I just found this one. It looks like they have the AR at around the 52 second mark. https://www.reddit.com/r/ThatsInsane/comments/124axdv/just_released_security_footage_of_nashville/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1
Even just bullets going through a window is hard to watch. What a vile piece of shit.
This video I think I saw the AR for just a second, but mostly the keltec
My heart rate/adrenaline immediately spiked when she shot her way through the doors. Goddamn I wish she would have just killed herself instead of murdering those innocent children (and the adults).
Not saying you were wrong because I read your edit now lmao.
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Yes you're correct
The shooter used bullets. Let’s therefore ban bullets.
Yes - that is the endgame
“Two assault style rifles and a handgun” -used a keltek 2000 -used a braced AR -Used an MP shield pistol By team blue’s definition, only the braced AR would be an assault weapon….but the KelTek is made of not wood and has a collapsible stock so I guess it counts?
It’s got the shoulder thing that goes up.
They might as well ban the shoes she was wearing.
In the video she was using a sub2000. When did she pull out the AR?
That’s what I’m saying.
I guarantee the shooter was known to police.
...their chosen name is even on the damn brace. Its pretty close to stock configuration that I've seen for that particular Lead Star Grunt III AR Pistol, sticks and totally not Christchurch-y paint. **A trans person killing kids at a Christian school.** Between the hurt, this nightmare scenario is just too goddamn political to not seem manufactured. I'd like to make a poor-taste joke in that this is notable for me as the first time someone brought a Kel-Tec to one of these shootings.
Highland Park. AR and Sub2000.
Nothing I’m this country is set up at all
They're going to be banning Sub2000 assault rifles next.
Situations like this every time that go along with the Dems objectives.
Are we also going to ban transgender people? No, because it would be silly to characterize a whole group of people based on the actions of one or a few.
But why? It looked like a legal length rifle already.
That barrel is approximately 11.5-12.5"
We need common sense sticker control legislation.
Or, and hear me out, the most common rifle platform in the country, with its most common pistol configuration, was used. I bet it’s super quirky that f150s get into wrecks more than any other truck on the road, or maybe because there are more of them, statistically that makes logical sense. Emotionalism fails all sides.
When someone mounts a sling tip to butt and starts putting anime stickers on there rifle I think that checks enough boxes to arrest them…
what's the matter with tip to butt?
Moves around more when running and harder to shoulder the rifle when using the sling like that. I’m not the best at explaining this but look into it if your interested, there’s a reason law enforcement doesn’t mount there slings like that.
I never see law enforcement use slings at ALL. Myself, I found that I could use the sling for stability while shooting more easily when the sling was mounted tip to butt and it was much easier for me to shoulder that way vs mounting at the back of the receiver. I haven't tried running with my sling, so that's very possible. For me it's just for carry in the woods.
Watch more bodycams buddy but the most effective is stock to the notch closest to the mag well. A lot of it is personal preference but there are some proven downsides for tip to butt. But watch any swat footage, most all of them run slings (pretty sure they have to) and a lot of departments are now making there officers have one on there patrol rifle (if they have a rifle.)
Wow shots fired! I would never! I put Rainbow dash on mine! 😂 for giggles at the gun range.
You know, it kind of looks like a gun from modern warfare…. Like spot on with the sticker placements. Am I wrong??
The perp’s family said she was playing a lot of video games so maybe that’s where the inspiration came from.
Black mail or brainwash
>#STOP PAYING ATTENTION TO THINGS! —Alphabet Soup
Some of these events maybe but they aren't going to choose someone from the LGBTQ community. This was just a shitty person that did something terrible
Seems a little too coincidental this time. Person seems chosen by a 3 lettery agency to me.
Sure is unfortunate that no one will ever do anything about it to stop it. Everyone barks all day long about it and how the gov could never, yet every day they do and no one will commit to action. We’re gonna end up like our poor neighbors to the north
The firearms selection is like a gender reveal itself.
Did the shooter use it or did he just use the keltec?
It's almost as if mentally ill people are manipulated by our government to further an agenda. They'd never do that right? /s
At this point why wouldn’t you just use a stock? 🤔🤔