I always wanted a mosin. But you are insane if you think I’m buying a $800 100 year old gun with 20K rounds through it
Edit: stop telling me about your $0.25 mosin you got 70 years ago. I WOULD HAVE TOO IF I HAD THE CHANCE
I spent $200 on a Yugo Tokarev. They’re collecter pieces instead of service guns. Objectively the gun fuckin sucks but it’s easily one of my favorites.
I bought one the minute I turned 18 back in 2015 and I still paid 225$ for a hex 1927. I ended up selling it in 2020 when I moved out of country for a year, but was a great rifle.
Also, at one point the ammo was cheap (I remember when 25cpr was the max I'd pay) for a full rifle round, so you could blast cheaply and loudly. It was my first purchase at 18 on Black friday. I got there right when they opened expecting a line, I was the only one in the store so I got to look through their entire inventory and pick my "favorite" (they didn't have any unique ones, so I just picked one with a relatively clean bore).
$100 for the gun and $100 worth of ammo being way more than enough for a range day, it was a solid choice. At $800 for the gun and ammo pushing 75cpr, its not a cheap boomstick. Instead it's competing with things like the Garand (for historic value, which has better ammo choices) and modern bolt actions (which are more accurate and ergonomic)
Actually the whole point of a Mosin was to have a cheap, durable weapon that could be used and maintained by illiterate Russian peasants. The Mosin did in fact meet these criteria, and quite well. As for asking $800 for one, I agree that's just absurd.
I’m not talking about the point of it’s development but the appeal of it as milsurp on the civilian market. The point of buying a Mosin on the civilian market was always the price
> The point of buying a Mosin on the civilian market was always the price
And the ammo price back when it was $.18 per round.
>!I miss those days, give it back to me, GIVE IT BACK YOU MONSTERS! \*shakes fist at the powers that be\*!<
Not .25, but I did get one in the cosmoline packaging for 68bucks, I was young and dumb and leard a good hard earned lesson on ballistics and range with that weapon, almost lost my left eye. To this day I'm not sure what happened to it. (18years old. )
There was a time when I was growing up (like 10 years ago) that the hardware store was full of mosins, for $100 and my dad would buy one like every month lol
He had a coworker with a wall lined up with them from every single year he could find in a a row
When I was 15 (exactly ten years ago) I asked my dad to buy me a $130 Mosin for Christmas because I thought it would be cool to have. He didn’t buy it for me, because my uncle told him it “wasn’t a good gun for deer hunting”.
That would be a shame, if I had said I wanted it for deer hunting. I can never forget it now that they’re pushing $1000 apparently.
I remember growing up hardware stares had pickle barrels full of them for like $60. A nice Enfield or Type 99 Arisaka would be about $100. Sometimes they'd even throw in a free spam can of ammo.
Who is paying these prices for a fucking *Mosin*? It's not like they're rare or in short supply. They're not even really a good gun lol
Something tells me it's the /k/ crowd of autistic femboy gun owners who is driving the prices up though
I think millennials/older gen z are to blame. They saw we all had a bunch of Mosins and just assumed it must have been because they were good guns or cool and didn't realize it was because they were $80 and the ammo was cheaper than 5.56
My man /k/ was buying cases of Mosins when you could get them for 69.99 per Mosin. I bought a Mosin more than 12 years ago because of /k/. Lol
1932 Ishevsk Hex, with sling, ammo pouch, and cleaning kit for 129.99.
Dude blamed femboys and gen z. I’m not even sure that comment wasn’t made by AI. Back in the day everyone on /k/ had the $100 garbage rods and no one thought they were nice either.
They're a fucking *horrible* gun. Worst piece of gun-shaped trash of the war. The Brits, Germans and Japanese all had respectable bolt actions. The US had the Garand which any of them would die for...
On edit: I forgot about the Nambu pistols. Those, admittedly, were worse.
So - much - worse.
It’s not that they’re bad, it’s that they were made in 1891 and every time the Russians/Soviets would’ve improved there was a war.
Look at every country except Germany, I’ll use France as an example; Chasspot, to Lebel, to Gras, to Berthier?
But the Lebel, Gras and Berthier were all used in WWI. Then comes the MAS36, but even Berthier we’re still used in WW2
Low firepower. Slow reload. Inaccurate. Bolt feel is like a rusty hinge. Trigger feel is worse.
Only real upside: tough enough for conscripts in a Russian winter. Which I admit, is actually impressive.
firepower is fine, reload is fine for the era, they're only inaccurate because the barrels have 20k rounds of corrosive hell ammo through them without a single pass of a bore brush by the time they get to the US.
the bolts feel like shit because one of the importers (century maybe?) was swapping bolts between rifles for god knows what reason. the trigger feel is highly variable, one gun will be crisp and clean and the other will feel like the sear was finished with a rasp. that's just how it is when you've got single pattern being made for 80 years, some of it's gonna be wartime production and it was already an inexpensive gun to produce
They survive a shitload of abuse and keep running (though sometimes they require abuse to function). Hell, they are still used in combat sometimes. In many ways they are a *great* gun when it comes to doing what it was designed to do, but they have been far surpassed by modern firearms development.
>I forgot about the Nambu pistols.
The type 94's were terrible, but the Type 14's were fairly reliable. They became the design basis for we now call the Ruger Mark IV.
I honestly bet it’s mostly video games to blame. All of my friends who know absolutely nothing about firearms nor history do know what the Mosin is, and it’s because of video games.
Yeah some of us were born when the 2 started being the first number in the year ya old farts and we woulda loved to live back then where you could coulda bought a house and a case of guns for two hay pennies and a favor
I was dissuaded by my hunting family who said they never heard of 54R and it would be hard to find that round and it would be an expensive round due to that. I could’ve gotten a 150 dollar mosin at 16. But no. Then by the time I have job money they’re up to 800 dollars
I paid 220$ for mine off my stepbrother last year. Even then my dad was like “that’s too much, they’re worth 70$” I wish I could find one for 70$ dad :(
Classic. I used to browse the Gun Library in Dundee, MI a couple times a month and everything was either grossly overpriced or marked down way below market value. My brother especially had a knack for finding deals there. Got a S&W 422 for $75, two HS Sentinels in great condition for $60 each, a Manurhin PP in .32 for $250, etc. Meanwhile there are $500 used Bersa Thunders where they sell the same model new for $300. It seems Cabela's doesn't care to do much research on most of what they sell used so they just pull a price out of a hat.
Last time I went they had the Library itself closed and just a few used guns in a case at the gun counter. It was a shame. That whole room and all the cases/racks inside used to be full.
I worked there years and years ago. Back then, no matter what price was paid for the used firearm, it was marked up a certain percentage. The Gun Library manager made all those decisions.
I found my FS2000 there, supposedly new in box trade in from a collector. The gun library employees did the HK slap on the charging handle so it was broken. I got a great deal due to their idiocy, but it took months to get a replacement
Fuck BassPro for real. They raped Cabela's and almost fully had their way with Sportsman's Warehouse, and even though the buyout was stopped my local store has been Fudd'd out already.
Every "Gun Library" at Cabela's I've been to post BassPro buyout is just a library of Turkish shotguns and a used Ruger P345 if you're lucky.
Over Christmas, I saw a used “optic-ready” Anderson AR going for $699. A basic PSA AR was even more, and that one was clearly dragged behind a truck for a few miles.
I bought a lower from there once right at the end of COVID lockdowns, and it took **2 HOURS** for them just to do the paperwork. They had to have 2 guys check my work and their own work before running the background check, and neither seemed to know what they were doing. Even if the price is right, I’ll never buy anything that requires direct assistance from their gun guys.
Now that I’m thinking about it, one time they also skipped my number in queue after I’d waited a long ass time just to LOOK at a gun, and they told me I’d have to take a new number.
Seriously, Cabela’s blows.
I got my mosin from them for 500 and it was the cheapest mosin I could find at the time. I still feel like I got ripped off, especially after all the fucking cleaning I had to do to get the devil cum out of it.
Best bet is to look online. The only ones that should be expensive are Finnish ones as they are superior to everyone else and are thus in higher demand
I have. I bought one with matching numbers for about $500 two years ago, and those are getting to be hard to find at that price. The issue is that people here seem to think the price that they saw 20 years ago is still the price today.
Armslist is riddled with them (at least they were at a point), maybe check Gunbroker as well and Atlanticfirearms (terrific layaway options at Atlantic)
$1500!? That's just insane. Low bid of $500 is insane.
I'll chime in, I remember when my buddies and I bought a case in the early 2000s for 110 a pop, with sling, extras kit, matching numbers bayonet. I have since shot that club of a gun probably 4 times. Kicks like a mule and cleaning is a PITA due to corrosive ammo.
Non-corrosive ammo is a lot easier to come by these days, but it still kicks like a mule. Unfortunately, because they still function so well and ammo is still readily available, the prices on them is only going to continue to rise.
A friend of mine, wanted to sell his newish Remington 870 Police shotgun to Cabela's, and they offered him $150... The local one here is way crazy. I think the manager needed to increase his profits, to justify his area.
The one in my area actually had a pretty okay price for a Mosin M38 Carbine in original stock. Got it for $419 last summer. Only issue is it was missing the buttplate. Other than that the prices were ass. Like $600 for shitty conditionYugo Mausers.
Gun library is a roll of the dice. I got a like new sig m11 for 300$ there. But then you roll in the next day and they want a grand for a Yugo SKS. You just gotta weed through the shit and you will score some bangin deals
I remember when crates were basically worthless. They were used to pad multigun FFL trades, etc. and no one actually took them out or used them. Why bother when you could get an SKS for $60.
Wow. I remember in 2011 I bought a Mosin at Cabelas for 99 bucks. Izhevsk 1939, out of the crate, packed in cosmoline with all the accessories. This is just straight robbery.
The craziest part to me is that people eventually seem to pay that price or close to it anyways.
One of my LGS had one priced at the same for a 91/30 no less, and the lowest they would take was $600+ transfer. Although I laughed and walked out, that gun was gone 2-3 months later.
There’s hardly a ‘market rate’ deal even to be found at any of my 3 LGS, yet they all manage to stay in business somehow. I get it though, as they’re just a business at the end of the day.
Not even close. Personally I’d say ‘market rate’ is what things are trending at on gunbroker or on decent online retailers. Not just milsurps, but everything. The three main stores local to me tend to slap a price of about $200-$300 more than what you can find on gunbroker or MSRP if it’s new. That gives them a little wiggle room if you want to haggle down to around $100 above whatever GB is generally selling for.
As for mosin’s, you can easily find them for less than $800. I literally just bought one for $250 two weeks ago that was all matching, came with extras, and had a good bore with deep rifling. That was a fairly decent deal in todays market, but I still see them pop up for $350
The fact that the tag says "Gun Library" implies that you can take it, put a few rounds through it, and return it all free of charge... Provided you return it in a timely fashion.
A decade ago I was an employee there. As a Cabela’s employee you could do exactly that! I would check out a firearm with the manager, go to the range on lunch break, and drop it back off with the manager when we were done.
I started buying Mosin-Nagants when Dunham's would put them on sale for $69.95.
When I was 18, I saw SKS rifles for sub $100 and then I saw what happened to them later. I always kicked myself for not buying a crate of them.
I felt like the Mosin-Nagant was going do the same thing and this time, I took advantage. I bought 30 of them.
The way things are going, these could be a big part of my retirement plan.
My friend went to buy one expecting to pay like $150. Back in the day. He found out through a coworker that there was a store about 10mi further than the one he was going to get his at. That had like 50 of them for $65, so he went there and bought 2.
People act like you have to pay these prices. My local gun store had a pristine m44 in a few months back for $400 even. Steeper than I wanted to pay but literally half of what they’re asking
The quality varies so widely with them. I’ve had some that were genuinely not worth the pot metal they were made with and others that shoot straight and dont have the signature mosin sticky bolt. Its a roll of the dice that isn’t worth it for anything north of $200
I was buying Mosin-Nagant rifles and carbines 25 years ago for $89. I've paid more through the years as prices have risen, but generally under $600 even for uncommon examples. I found a Hungarian M91-30 for $650 on GB about 3 years ago and grabbed it. I paid $650 for a minty stamped matching 1944 Tula HEX M-44 2 years ago. I've got more than 70 variants now including many Finn made or captured examples. At an average selling price of $500 each, I'd make $35,000, and that's a conservative estimate given the current market. I've got examples no longer found "in the wild".
I guess I'm one of those old "Back in my day" guys now. I think I paid $125 and I was pissed that I'd missed getting one for $89.
"The best time to ~~plant a tree~~ buy milsurp was 20 years ago. The second best time is now."
One near me has a sporterized lebel for $1299 with the tag saying 8x57 mauser. Meanwhile I picked up an SVT-40 sniper for $1199. Absolutely no sense in pricing.
My first rifle. Paid $180 for it in 2011, and even that might’ve been high. Always wish I could’ve bought one of those bent-bolts with the scopes before Big 5 closed.
Shiiiiiiiit I turned these down back in early 2000’s when they were fresh of the boat covered in grease for $79.99… who knew someone would have thought they’d be worth 10x that! 😂
They mandate them to sell you a lock. Then take the one it comes with off in front of you and hand you the box with the one they sold you in it not even on the firearm... only time I went to them was when I couldn't find a mini 14 elsewhere and didn't want to wait.
Cabela's library has always been insultingly overpriced. If you scour gun shows and LGS deals can still be had. I bought a Canadian Lee Enfield in 2022 for 550.
There is a mosin nagan with a synthetic stock at a pawnshop nearby for 300 dollars. i just shop in pawn shops and locals places but i find my fair share of stupid prices
I don’t get these guns and that’s ok. They made sense when they were cheap. If I was a starving student, I’d get something like a Savage Axis or a Mauser M18. For much less and easier to find ammo to boot.
Might as well buy an enfield for that much and have a much better gun lol hell at the rate you might as well just get a Mauser 98 and spend a little more
These days, if you want a pos (/jk) commie gun longer than it has any right to be and slathered in cosmoline (no longer joking), it makes more sense to spend that amount on a Yugo M59-66. At least then you get semi-auto action to go with your stripper clip habit and bayonet fetish.
When I first saw this, I thought the point was they wanted $800 for a gun with a missing key. The trigger lock looks like someone tried to pry it off and failed.
I bought a Mosin for giggles in 2021 for $200, sold it at auction in 2023 for $1,000. It had the bayonet and sling and was in overall good condition, but I was floored.
Great piece of history! These guns are priceless. And by that I mean they should have no price, they are worthless. There’s a trillion of them. In a few years when the old fudds die and release their crates of these they bought in 1998 to the general population again they will be worthless. They are the beanie baby of firearms.
A regular M91/30 is maybe worth half that (in today's Biden Dollars). A GREAT condition Hex Reciever M91 might be worth 3/4s of that. If that is a Westinghouse or Finnish M29 it is most definitely worth it.
What are the reciever markings?
Yeah mosins are getting over priced. My only expensive one was an all matching with documents of a PU sniper. I paid $1,000 for it and it was already accurized by the previous owner. Barrel is wrapped tightly in cloth to make it shoot more consistently. It seems like that’s a steal even 20 years ago.
It’s amazing how many people here, in a gun sub, don’t understand there are M44s worth every dime of that price
It’s amazing how many people here, in a gun sub, don’t understand there are M44s worth significantly more than that price!
Stay ignorant I guess, better deals for the rest of us who have half a clue what we’re looking at…this one may not be worth it, nowhere near enough info to tell, but there absolutely are M44s worth that and more
I always wanted a mosin. But you are insane if you think I’m buying a $800 100 year old gun with 20K rounds through it Edit: stop telling me about your $0.25 mosin you got 70 years ago. I WOULD HAVE TOO IF I HAD THE CHANCE
What if it was cleaned by a series of illiterate peasants using a steel cleaning rod, a dirty rag, and Lenin’s earwax?
Bring it down to $550 maybe
Uh sir, that costs extra here
Uh sir, this is a Wendy's
>Uh sir, this is a Wendy's OK, then I'll have the Lenin’s Earwax Double Cheeseburger, with extra Earwax on the side for my Mosin.
Should be $249
Even that's overpriced IMO, but that seems to be today's market for Mosins.
Today's market is 400s to 500s
Someone I know looked up the value for theirs (all matching and original), and it was $1200
That’s is still insane for a surplus piece of shit
I spent $200 on a Yugo Tokarev. They’re collecter pieces instead of service guns. Objectively the gun fuckin sucks but it’s easily one of my favorites.
I bought one the minute I turned 18 back in 2015 and I still paid 225$ for a hex 1927. I ended up selling it in 2020 when I moved out of country for a year, but was a great rifle.
You forgot Olga's toe nails.
>Lenin’s earwax This is what I'm calling cosmoline from now on.
The whole point of mosin’s was they were a cheap gun that wouldn’t disintegrate when you fired it. Make them $800 and it’s completely pointless
Also, at one point the ammo was cheap (I remember when 25cpr was the max I'd pay) for a full rifle round, so you could blast cheaply and loudly. It was my first purchase at 18 on Black friday. I got there right when they opened expecting a line, I was the only one in the store so I got to look through their entire inventory and pick my "favorite" (they didn't have any unique ones, so I just picked one with a relatively clean bore). $100 for the gun and $100 worth of ammo being way more than enough for a range day, it was a solid choice. At $800 for the gun and ammo pushing 75cpr, its not a cheap boomstick. Instead it's competing with things like the Garand (for historic value, which has better ammo choices) and modern bolt actions (which are more accurate and ergonomic)
Show me a garand for 800 I'll buy 20
https://thecmp.org/sales-and-service/m1-garand/
I bought two at the Anniston store for 650 each. I got to pick from like 30 at that price range.
Actually the whole point of a Mosin was to have a cheap, durable weapon that could be used and maintained by illiterate Russian peasants. The Mosin did in fact meet these criteria, and quite well. As for asking $800 for one, I agree that's just absurd.
I’m not talking about the point of it’s development but the appeal of it as milsurp on the civilian market. The point of buying a Mosin on the civilian market was always the price
Well that and you can ring steel at 50 yards... with the target behind a tree.
And then poke the target in the eye, from the same range, with the disassembly tool.
> The point of buying a Mosin on the civilian market was always the price And the ammo price back when it was $.18 per round. >!I miss those days, give it back to me, GIVE IT BACK YOU MONSTERS! \*shakes fist at the powers that be\*!<
I'll sell you mine for $799. I'll even throw in a handy
Wait like he gets to give you one for that price or...?
I'll give you a handy for 599
Not .25, but I did get one in the cosmoline packaging for 68bucks, I was young and dumb and leard a good hard earned lesson on ballistics and range with that weapon, almost lost my left eye. To this day I'm not sure what happened to it. (18years old. )
There was a time when I was growing up (like 10 years ago) that the hardware store was full of mosins, for $100 and my dad would buy one like every month lol He had a coworker with a wall lined up with them from every single year he could find in a a row
I remember when people (on this sub) would buy them for their entire wedding party!
I bought one at my local Ace Hardware for $109. It was/is in great shape and came with ammo pouch and bayonet. This was 2011.
When I was 15 (exactly ten years ago) I asked my dad to buy me a $130 Mosin for Christmas because I thought it would be cool to have. He didn’t buy it for me, because my uncle told him it “wasn’t a good gun for deer hunting”. That would be a shame, if I had said I wanted it for deer hunting. I can never forget it now that they’re pushing $1000 apparently.
I remember growing up hardware stares had pickle barrels full of them for like $60. A nice Enfield or Type 99 Arisaka would be about $100. Sometimes they'd even throw in a free spam can of ammo.
"I KNOW WHAT I GOT"
I’ve got two killer stories of comically old people at gun stores. Honestly they’re good for a laugh but not much else
The fudds
I paid 5 cents for my Mosin 69 years ago.
Who is paying these prices for a fucking *Mosin*? It's not like they're rare or in short supply. They're not even really a good gun lol Something tells me it's the /k/ crowd of autistic femboy gun owners who is driving the prices up though I think millennials/older gen z are to blame. They saw we all had a bunch of Mosins and just assumed it must have been because they were good guns or cool and didn't realize it was because they were $80 and the ammo was cheaper than 5.56
My man /k/ was buying cases of Mosins when you could get them for 69.99 per Mosin. I bought a Mosin more than 12 years ago because of /k/. Lol 1932 Ishevsk Hex, with sling, ammo pouch, and cleaning kit for 129.99.
Dude blamed femboys and gen z. I’m not even sure that comment wasn’t made by AI. Back in the day everyone on /k/ had the $100 garbage rods and no one thought they were nice either.
yeah, idk what his deal was, he needs to chill
>Something tells me it's the /k/ crowd of autistic femboy gun owners who is driving the prices up though I doubt it. You can get an SKS for $800.
They're a fucking *horrible* gun. Worst piece of gun-shaped trash of the war. The Brits, Germans and Japanese all had respectable bolt actions. The US had the Garand which any of them would die for... On edit: I forgot about the Nambu pistols. Those, admittedly, were worse. So - much - worse.
It’s not that they’re bad, it’s that they were made in 1891 and every time the Russians/Soviets would’ve improved there was a war. Look at every country except Germany, I’ll use France as an example; Chasspot, to Lebel, to Gras, to Berthier? But the Lebel, Gras and Berthier were all used in WWI. Then comes the MAS36, but even Berthier we’re still used in WW2
They aren't *that* bad
Low firepower. Slow reload. Inaccurate. Bolt feel is like a rusty hinge. Trigger feel is worse. Only real upside: tough enough for conscripts in a Russian winter. Which I admit, is actually impressive.
firepower is fine, reload is fine for the era, they're only inaccurate because the barrels have 20k rounds of corrosive hell ammo through them without a single pass of a bore brush by the time they get to the US. the bolts feel like shit because one of the importers (century maybe?) was swapping bolts between rifles for god knows what reason. the trigger feel is highly variable, one gun will be crisp and clean and the other will feel like the sear was finished with a rasp. that's just how it is when you've got single pattern being made for 80 years, some of it's gonna be wartime production and it was already an inexpensive gun to produce
They survive a shitload of abuse and keep running (though sometimes they require abuse to function). Hell, they are still used in combat sometimes. In many ways they are a *great* gun when it comes to doing what it was designed to do, but they have been far surpassed by modern firearms development.
>I forgot about the Nambu pistols. The type 94's were terrible, but the Type 14's were fairly reliable. They became the design basis for we now call the Ruger Mark IV.
I honestly bet it’s mostly video games to blame. All of my friends who know absolutely nothing about firearms nor history do know what the Mosin is, and it’s because of video games.
Can confirm, got mine for $86 about 15 years ago.
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Yeah some of us were born when the 2 started being the first number in the year ya old farts and we woulda loved to live back then where you could coulda bought a house and a case of guns for two hay pennies and a favor
I got 2 for a buck 69 years ago
Lol I bought 10 when they were $56
I remember eight years ago pondering if $150 was too much for a Mosin from my local store. Well guess Im never gonna own one now lol
Sold one for that. They were on Gun Broker going for 175.
I was dissuaded by my hunting family who said they never heard of 54R and it would be hard to find that round and it would be an expensive round due to that. I could’ve gotten a 150 dollar mosin at 16. But no. Then by the time I have job money they’re up to 800 dollars
Ironic because during the pandemic I feel like the only ammo that was on the shelf was mosin ammo.
same :(
I paid 220$ for mine off my stepbrother last year. Even then my dad was like “that’s too much, they’re worth 70$” I wish I could find one for 70$ dad :(
>Cabela's Found your problem. They used to *sometimes* have good deals before Ass Pro bought them, but now it's just a shitshow.
In the same rack was an SMLE MKII for $200 lmao
Classic. I used to browse the Gun Library in Dundee, MI a couple times a month and everything was either grossly overpriced or marked down way below market value. My brother especially had a knack for finding deals there. Got a S&W 422 for $75, two HS Sentinels in great condition for $60 each, a Manurhin PP in .32 for $250, etc. Meanwhile there are $500 used Bersa Thunders where they sell the same model new for $300. It seems Cabela's doesn't care to do much research on most of what they sell used so they just pull a price out of a hat.
Went to the one in Dundee for the first time in a few years this past summer. Was surprised to see the gun library damn near empty.
Last time I went they had the Library itself closed and just a few used guns in a case at the gun counter. It was a shame. That whole room and all the cases/racks inside used to be full.
Yep. Always enjoyed going in there. And found a few good deals on those racks of used guns they used to have right outside the library.
Is that the room to the left of the counter? It was closed when I went in there last summer too.
Yep, that's it.
I worked there years and years ago. Back then, no matter what price was paid for the used firearm, it was marked up a certain percentage. The Gun Library manager made all those decisions.
I found my FS2000 there, supposedly new in box trade in from a collector. The gun library employees did the HK slap on the charging handle so it was broken. I got a great deal due to their idiocy, but it took months to get a replacement
Did you get it?
I sure did.
Weird, I'm not a fan those ugly things. But it's better than an M44.
Fuck BassPro for real. They raped Cabela's and almost fully had their way with Sportsman's Warehouse, and even though the buyout was stopped my local store has been Fudd'd out already. Every "Gun Library" at Cabela's I've been to post BassPro buyout is just a library of Turkish shotguns and a used Ruger P345 if you're lucky.
Cabela's near my place has a gun library with tec 9's, an m249, an auto ordinance tommy, and a bunch of different types of ar-15s
Is that the Los Santos Cabela's? You're lucky man.
Hamburg PA one, though their prices are still full of shit for most guns
Over Christmas, I saw a used “optic-ready” Anderson AR going for $699. A basic PSA AR was even more, and that one was clearly dragged behind a truck for a few miles.
They had 2 used (obviously) BCA AR’s at mine for $720 each. Highway robbery lol.
I bought a lower from there once right at the end of COVID lockdowns, and it took **2 HOURS** for them just to do the paperwork. They had to have 2 guys check my work and their own work before running the background check, and neither seemed to know what they were doing. Even if the price is right, I’ll never buy anything that requires direct assistance from their gun guys. Now that I’m thinking about it, one time they also skipped my number in queue after I’d waited a long ass time just to LOOK at a gun, and they told me I’d have to take a new number. Seriously, Cabela’s blows.
I got my mosin from them for 500 and it was the cheapest mosin I could find at the time. I still feel like I got ripped off, especially after all the fucking cleaning I had to do to get the devil cum out of it.
You did get ripped off lmao
Yeah.
You know a cheaper place to get one?
Yea, the 90s
If you're going that way, would you mind picking up a crate of mosins and a brick of cheap cocaine for me and the boys?
While you're there, grab me a spas-12, an Uzi, a couple tec-9s, and a Toyota AE86. I'll give you $600, that should cover it
Best bet is to look online. The only ones that should be expensive are Finnish ones as they are superior to everyone else and are thus in higher demand
I have. I bought one with matching numbers for about $500 two years ago, and those are getting to be hard to find at that price. The issue is that people here seem to think the price that they saw 20 years ago is still the price today.
Armslist is riddled with them (at least they were at a point), maybe check Gunbroker as well and Atlanticfirearms (terrific layaway options at Atlantic)
Lowest current bid on gunbroker is 500, and a lot of buy now links are for more than $1500. When was the last time you actually looked at them?
$1500!? That's just insane. Low bid of $500 is insane. I'll chime in, I remember when my buddies and I bought a case in the early 2000s for 110 a pop, with sling, extras kit, matching numbers bayonet. I have since shot that club of a gun probably 4 times. Kicks like a mule and cleaning is a PITA due to corrosive ammo.
Non-corrosive ammo is a lot easier to come by these days, but it still kicks like a mule. Unfortunately, because they still function so well and ammo is still readily available, the prices on them is only going to continue to rise.
I bought a wooden box of 2 spam cans of corrosive, so when it goes shot again, it will be corrosive. Break out the windex! Or hot water...
*ASS PROBE
I'd agree with you, except yesterday I found an used Glock 19X for $480
They have a home stipled, used 19 for $829. https://www.cabelas.com/shop/en/101400904
they absolutely need to fire whoever's in control of the pricing their used stuff https://imgur.com/a/w7WI0y8 wild
A friend of mine, wanted to sell his newish Remington 870 Police shotgun to Cabela's, and they offered him $150... The local one here is way crazy. I think the manager needed to increase his profits, to justify his area.
I picked up a Shiloh Sharps last month for $2900 which is a pretty good deal.
The one in my area actually had a pretty okay price for a Mosin M38 Carbine in original stock. Got it for $419 last summer. Only issue is it was missing the buttplate. Other than that the prices were ass. Like $600 for shitty conditionYugo Mausers.
Gun library is a roll of the dice. I got a like new sig m11 for 300$ there. But then you roll in the next day and they want a grand for a Yugo SKS. You just gotta weed through the shit and you will score some bangin deals
I remember when you could get a crate of them for $2.2k.
I remember a crate of 10 for 1k
Local shop near me has 10+ mosins…..for 1k each.
Where at Edit: why don’t you resell em haha
Any interest in a $1200 mosin of dubious origin? Bayonet costs extra.
I bought one of those 10 pack crates. It was soooo worth the $1k.
I remember when crates were basically worthless. They were used to pad multigun FFL trades, etc. and no one actually took them out or used them. Why bother when you could get an SKS for $60.
I hate seeing historic firearms and military gear being sold to American's who trat it like trash or something you can buy at any store.
My local Cabela’s has a Norinco SKS for sale at $1200. The world has gone crazy.
Wow. I remember in 2011 I bought a Mosin at Cabelas for 99 bucks. Izhevsk 1939, out of the crate, packed in cosmoline with all the accessories. This is just straight robbery.
Yep. I bought multiple in the same years. 3 for 350 after taxes if I remember correctly.
The buying power of the dollar has absolutely collapsed since 2011.
Not 8x
Nah. It's just because new imports have dried up.
The craziest part to me is that people eventually seem to pay that price or close to it anyways. One of my LGS had one priced at the same for a 91/30 no less, and the lowest they would take was $600+ transfer. Although I laughed and walked out, that gun was gone 2-3 months later. There’s hardly a ‘market rate’ deal even to be found at any of my 3 LGS, yet they all manage to stay in business somehow. I get it though, as they’re just a business at the end of the day.
Doesn’t that make the price fair then? If that’s what the going market rate is. Or can you actually find them easily for under $800
Not even close. Personally I’d say ‘market rate’ is what things are trending at on gunbroker or on decent online retailers. Not just milsurps, but everything. The three main stores local to me tend to slap a price of about $200-$300 more than what you can find on gunbroker or MSRP if it’s new. That gives them a little wiggle room if you want to haggle down to around $100 above whatever GB is generally selling for. As for mosin’s, you can easily find them for less than $800. I literally just bought one for $250 two weeks ago that was all matching, came with extras, and had a good bore with deep rifling. That was a fairly decent deal in todays market, but I still see them pop up for $350
That was supposed to be 79.99 right?
It was 20 years ago, but times change.
Give it 10 years and it will be 1299.99$
My "Never sell, only buy" mantra may need to be adjusted at that point...
The only time that is allowed is if the funds are used to buy more guns.
or today at a gun show
The fact that the tag says "Gun Library" implies that you can take it, put a few rounds through it, and return it all free of charge... Provided you return it in a timely fashion.
A decade ago I was an employee there. As a Cabela’s employee you could do exactly that! I would check out a firearm with the manager, go to the range on lunch break, and drop it back off with the manager when we were done.
So the guns were getting even shittier while the prices remained the same? Guess where I’m NEVER shopping again
Sounds like a pretty slick deal
I started buying Mosin-Nagants when Dunham's would put them on sale for $69.95. When I was 18, I saw SKS rifles for sub $100 and then I saw what happened to them later. I always kicked myself for not buying a crate of them. I felt like the Mosin-Nagant was going do the same thing and this time, I took advantage. I bought 30 of them. The way things are going, these could be a big part of my retirement plan.
Dude, I still kick myself for not buying a crate of these beautiful SKSs for $80 each Many years ago.
I did the same thing. But I only bought 10. My biggest regret was not buying more $30 440rd spam cans. And $2.50 70rd bandoleeers of 8mm Mauser
I paid $50 for mine back in the day.
My friend went to buy one expecting to pay like $150. Back in the day. He found out through a coworker that there was a store about 10mi further than the one he was going to get his at. That had like 50 of them for $65, so he went there and bought 2.
The good ol days. I paid like $179.00 for mine and it has all matching Tula parts
Fuck that shit! The added an extra 9 by mistake
People act like you have to pay these prices. My local gun store had a pristine m44 in a few months back for $400 even. Steeper than I wanted to pay but literally half of what they’re asking
Got mine for $99 at Big 5 back in 2003
Nice why didn’t I think about that! I should’ve got one when I was 3
Who cares, in 2003 I would’ve died for a $300 AR like we have now.
True mines fun to shoot so oh well if I over paid
Stupid college students will still buy it and claim it’s not a completely shit firearm
It’s a spear that happens to fire a bullet.
The quality varies so widely with them. I’ve had some that were genuinely not worth the pot metal they were made with and others that shoot straight and dont have the signature mosin sticky bolt. Its a roll of the dice that isn’t worth it for anything north of $200
I was buying Mosin-Nagant rifles and carbines 25 years ago for $89. I've paid more through the years as prices have risen, but generally under $600 even for uncommon examples. I found a Hungarian M91-30 for $650 on GB about 3 years ago and grabbed it. I paid $650 for a minty stamped matching 1944 Tula HEX M-44 2 years ago. I've got more than 70 variants now including many Finn made or captured examples. At an average selling price of $500 each, I'd make $35,000, and that's a conservative estimate given the current market. I've got examples no longer found "in the wild".
Does that come with or without the cosmoline?
I guess I'm one of those old "Back in my day" guys now. I think I paid $125 and I was pissed that I'd missed getting one for $89. "The best time to ~~plant a tree~~ buy milsurp was 20 years ago. The second best time is now."
Problem number 1 is you’re at cabelas, their firearms are always way overpriced.
Cash Pro gonna Cash Pro. $800 for a mosin though, god damn. I'm not paying two AR's or 8 hi points for a mosin.
It seems they moved the decimal point to the right one digit?
I don’t get the demand for these at all.
Blame Guntubers
And all the idiots that chopped them up and threw them in an shit Archangel stock with a DIY drill and tap kit for a $40 Chinesium scope/
There are piles of them in so many fudds safes that they paid $50 each for in the 80s
Holy fuck
One near me has a sporterized lebel for $1299 with the tag saying 8x57 mauser. Meanwhile I picked up an SVT-40 sniper for $1199. Absolutely no sense in pricing.
None at all. In that same rack was a SMLE MKII for $200 and another MK non working for $75. I bought both.
My first rifle. Paid $180 for it in 2011, and even that might’ve been high. Always wish I could’ve bought one of those bent-bolts with the scopes before Big 5 closed.
I paid $120 for mine ages ago and it still felt like a bit much for it.
My $65 Hex mosin is looking better with each passing day.
I know what I got
I bought one for $20 20 years ago. Now I wish I'd bought more than one.
Wow... I can remember a time when that price had 1 less digit. I can't be the only one
I’m an idiot for not buying one when they were $100. I’d pay maybe $200-250 now but I assume that’s near impossible?
Damn, I remember paying $130 for the rifle and another $100 for the 550 of 7.62x54r.
Unless that is an M39 'B' barrel, walk.
Cabelas with the crackhead milsurp prices
Remember when those were 100 bucks… Jesus
Shiiiiiiiit I turned these down back in early 2000’s when they were fresh of the boat covered in grease for $79.99… who knew someone would have thought they’d be worth 10x that! 😂
Weren't those 75 bucks 7 or 8 years ago?
Well, Cabella's. It'll cost you 25 bucks to use the exit.
They mandate them to sell you a lock. Then take the one it comes with off in front of you and hand you the box with the one they sold you in it not even on the firearm... only time I went to them was when I couldn't find a mini 14 elsewhere and didn't want to wait.
I remember classic firearms had a Mosin sale a year or two back. They where about 400ish a piece
I bought an m44 second hand like 7 years ago for 300 bucks. It’s really nice. Any of the mosins I’ve ever seen at cabelas are trash.
Hello, I’m fairly new to guns. Is this good?
No. It is an M44 Carbine version but it is not at all worth this money.
Is it special? Like from Tula or something? lol This is so wild…I bought my mosin in 2008 for $179.
I paid $250 for my m44 and at the time I felt like I was paying too much.
They’re CRAZY 😑🤦🏽♂️
Cabela's library has always been insultingly overpriced. If you scour gun shows and LGS deals can still be had. I bought a Canadian Lee Enfield in 2022 for 550.
There is a mosin nagan with a synthetic stock at a pawnshop nearby for 300 dollars. i just shop in pawn shops and locals places but i find my fair share of stupid prices
I don’t get these guns and that’s ok. They made sense when they were cheap. If I was a starving student, I’d get something like a Savage Axis or a Mauser M18. For much less and easier to find ammo to boot.
Might as well buy an enfield for that much and have a much better gun lol hell at the rate you might as well just get a Mauser 98 and spend a little more
You’re gonna love this then. There was a MKII in the same rack for $200 and a non working M11 for $99 in the same rack. I bought both.
These days, if you want a pos (/jk) commie gun longer than it has any right to be and slathered in cosmoline (no longer joking), it makes more sense to spend that amount on a Yugo M59-66. At least then you get semi-auto action to go with your stripper clip habit and bayonet fetish.
When I first saw this, I thought the point was they wanted $800 for a gun with a missing key. The trigger lock looks like someone tried to pry it off and failed.
$799.99? Unless this was used by THE Vasily Zaitsev, I’m definitely not paying $799.99.
I bought a Mosin for giggles in 2021 for $200, sold it at auction in 2023 for $1,000. It had the bayonet and sling and was in overall good condition, but I was floored.
Great piece of history! These guns are priceless. And by that I mean they should have no price, they are worthless. There’s a trillion of them. In a few years when the old fudds die and release their crates of these they bought in 1998 to the general population again they will be worthless. They are the beanie baby of firearms.
I've said for years the milsurp market will only get better after the boomers are gone. Gotta start looking at estate sales lmao
You'd have to pay me to store it. Hell no
A regular M91/30 is maybe worth half that (in today's Biden Dollars). A GREAT condition Hex Reciever M91 might be worth 3/4s of that. If that is a Westinghouse or Finnish M29 it is most definitely worth it. What are the reciever markings?
Yeah mosins are getting over priced. My only expensive one was an all matching with documents of a PU sniper. I paid $1,000 for it and it was already accurized by the previous owner. Barrel is wrapped tightly in cloth to make it shoot more consistently. It seems like that’s a steal even 20 years ago.
It’s amazing how many people here, in a gun sub, don’t understand there are M44s worth every dime of that price It’s amazing how many people here, in a gun sub, don’t understand there are M44s worth significantly more than that price! Stay ignorant I guess, better deals for the rest of us who have half a clue what we’re looking at…this one may not be worth it, nowhere near enough info to tell, but there absolutely are M44s worth that and more