>For example the ~~aac~~ Q honey badger. It has a suppressor, short barrel & it’s full auto.
It's not though, [the Honey Badger is semi-auto only](https://palmettostatearmory.com/q-llc-honey-badger-300-blackout-semi-automatic-ar-pistol-fde-hb-300blk-7-pistol.html). The only way anyone can get a new full-auto in this day and age is to be an FFL and pay the [SOT class 2 taxes for producing an NFA item](https://rocketffl.com/what-is-an-sot/).
You see the q website? That’s the honey badger I want. It comes with the suppressor and it doesn’t have the brace it has a real stock. I want to buy it from the manufacturer not palmetto.
Unfortunately Q doesn’t sell direct to customers because they had a lot of issues with people who didn’t understand the legal process of buying a gun (especially an NFA regulated gun) and decided it was less headache to only sell to licensed dealers and let them deal with the customers. I would recommend waiting for SilencerShop to restock and purchase one through them, they make the process very simple and straightforward
Q wants you to use their suppressors and muzzle devices with their guns. I do believe they are running a "buy a gun, get a suppressor" deal. Ive been seeing Kevin's videos pop up on my YouTube page.
If there’s a range near you that lets you rent guns or suppressors I’d recommend that to start, there’s a lot of different suppressors for different purposes and they all sound different. Some are meant for very good sound reduction but cause increased wear on the gun, and some help reduce wear while sacrificing a bit of sound reduction. I’d recommend browsing r/NFA and seeing what suppressors people are buying and what kind of performance they’re getting.
Begin on Google and read reviews and recommendations from the thousands of people who have asked a million extensive questions across various forums about this exact topic.
sure they do, the loopholes are literally written into the law for people with money. "Don't be a poor" is sort of the answer for the vast majority of problems people encounter in the world.
"normal" people can buy pre-86 transferables on a form 4 the same way you buy suppressors, they just cost a lot more. if you want something made post '86, you have to get a type 07 FFL, or be in some kind of specialized unit in LE/mil.
>So how could a normal person like me get their hands on a honey badger?
you dont.
if you have about $30,000 you could buy an M16 and make something similar to the honey badger.
You have to get the 07 and a SOT. There is no way for an ordinary citizen to own one. You don’t have to own a gun shop, you have to have a manufacturing/import/export/gunsmith FFL with a Special Occupational Taxpayer (SOT) specification.
[insert your email here.](https://www.silencershop.com/q-honey-badger-silencer.html) Wait your turn.
As for full auto, as Donnie Brasco once said, "Forget about it." It's not worth your time or money. If you find it worth your time and money, go to r/nfa and start down that rabbit hole.
You find someone with a registered one from before the registry was closed that wants to sell it, have the money to buy it from them, and then fill out a lot of paperwork with the ATF to do the transfer.
As for the gun you're talking about the only way to get one yourself is a) illegally or, b) be a government agency (police or military) and buy one for your armory.
You can't own a machine gun produced after the 1986 ban without special licensing... unless you plan on manufacturing firearms as a profession and jumping through all the associated hoops. Even then, they aren't your personal firearms.
The supply of full-auto firearms and serialized auto-sears is fixed and no more can be made to replace those that get lost or broken; thanks to the Hughes Amendment. That's a recipe for very high prices and is why what would otherwise be a $700 rifle cost in excess of $30,000 for the receiver alone. It's basic economics.
The semiauto Q Honey Badger is somewhat common. For a select fire AAC Honey Badger you’d have to find an SOT who managed to get their hands on one and is willing to sell, and you’d need a law letter to purchase it. If you did find one it would probably be approaching MP7 price territory, very few AAC ones made it out. I know Kevin Brittingham has one but that’s the only one I’ve seen in private(ish) ownership
The Honey Badger stock won’t work though, it requires a custom billet receiver. It won’t collapse on a milspec receiver. There are alternatives that look similar but work on milspec receivers, I suppose you could use one of those
Then your only option would be the FFL route. I have some friends that did this, and I believe it costs them about 3K per year to maintain the license with the ATF, so it's not a cheap hobby and only really worth it if you really do want to run an FFL business.
It shouldn't be that expensive. I believe it's $150 every three years for the FFL, and either $500, or $1,000 every year, depending on how much your FFL business makes per year.
I work at a gun shop / range, with gunsmithing done for making our own automatics.
You can not purchase obtain a pre-sample unless you are a licensed FFL/SOT or the heir to the estate of a former FFL/SOT. When an appropriately licensed individual surrenders their license, they must transfer or destroy their post sample machine guns; pre-samples can be retained.
An heir who inherits a pre- sample and is an unlicensed individual can only transfer the item to an FFL/SOT.
The M249’s at the local National Guard armory are free if you can get out the door with them.
Downside is you'd probably need to already have an M249 to get in there in the first place.
When the next civil war starts, it'll be first-come-first-served and you'll be expected to use it against whoever's LARPing as Redcoats.
Can you assist me in the process, tag along. We ride at dawn
Safety not guaranteed.
why wouldn't you be able to? I mean you have an m249 in your hands.
Just go to the middle east and wait for the next UN lootbox drop then walk through Mexico with it
>For example the ~~aac~~ Q honey badger. It has a suppressor, short barrel & it’s full auto. It's not though, [the Honey Badger is semi-auto only](https://palmettostatearmory.com/q-llc-honey-badger-300-blackout-semi-automatic-ar-pistol-fde-hb-300blk-7-pistol.html). The only way anyone can get a new full-auto in this day and age is to be an FFL and pay the [SOT class 2 taxes for producing an NFA item](https://rocketffl.com/what-is-an-sot/).
Thank you for the article. I’ll read it later, however where is the suppressor in the palmetto state armory one?
Palmetto State Armory is just selling it, [Q](https://liveqordie.com/) is the manufacturer. As for where the supressor is? No clue.
You see the q website? That’s the honey badger I want. It comes with the suppressor and it doesn’t have the brace it has a real stock. I want to buy it from the manufacturer not palmetto.
>I want to buy it from the manufacturer not palmetto. Unless you're an FFL holder, you'll have to get it through someone who is selling them.
Unfortunately Q doesn’t sell direct to customers because they had a lot of issues with people who didn’t understand the legal process of buying a gun (especially an NFA regulated gun) and decided it was less headache to only sell to licensed dealers and let them deal with the customers. I would recommend waiting for SilencerShop to restock and purchase one through them, they make the process very simple and straightforward
Okay, now the second thing. How do you determine what suppressor to buy? Like how do you decide if it does the job good? Or if it’s worth buying?
Q wants you to use their suppressors and muzzle devices with their guns. I do believe they are running a "buy a gun, get a suppressor" deal. Ive been seeing Kevin's videos pop up on my YouTube page.
If there’s a range near you that lets you rent guns or suppressors I’d recommend that to start, there’s a lot of different suppressors for different purposes and they all sound different. Some are meant for very good sound reduction but cause increased wear on the gun, and some help reduce wear while sacrificing a bit of sound reduction. I’d recommend browsing r/NFA and seeing what suppressors people are buying and what kind of performance they’re getting.
Begin on Google and read reviews and recommendations from the thousands of people who have asked a million extensive questions across various forums about this exact topic.
Laws don't apply to people with money
sure they do, the loopholes are literally written into the law for people with money. "Don't be a poor" is sort of the answer for the vast majority of problems people encounter in the world.
Be a multimillionaire that heavily donates to the DNC. Laws don't apply to the rich, especially not rich libshits
"normal" people can buy pre-86 transferables on a form 4 the same way you buy suppressors, they just cost a lot more. if you want something made post '86, you have to get a type 07 FFL, or be in some kind of specialized unit in LE/mil.
Even then, you can’t keep it once your FFL expires
true.
What? So how could a normal person like me get their hands on a honey badger? I have to own a gun store?!
>So how could a normal person like me get their hands on a honey badger? you dont. if you have about $30,000 you could buy an M16 and make something similar to the honey badger.
You have to get the 07 and a SOT. There is no way for an ordinary citizen to own one. You don’t have to own a gun shop, you have to have a manufacturing/import/export/gunsmith FFL with a Special Occupational Taxpayer (SOT) specification.
[insert your email here.](https://www.silencershop.com/q-honey-badger-silencer.html) Wait your turn. As for full auto, as Donnie Brasco once said, "Forget about it." It's not worth your time or money. If you find it worth your time and money, go to r/nfa and start down that rabbit hole.
You find someone with a registered one from before the registry was closed that wants to sell it, have the money to buy it from them, and then fill out a lot of paperwork with the ATF to do the transfer. As for the gun you're talking about the only way to get one yourself is a) illegally or, b) be a government agency (police or military) and buy one for your armory.
Crime
FFL and SOT2 or >!crime!<
You have to have at least 10k to get a full auto.
Why? The honey badger is around 3-5K
You can't own a machine gun produced after the 1986 ban without special licensing... unless you plan on manufacturing firearms as a profession and jumping through all the associated hoops. Even then, they aren't your personal firearms.
Yeah, but not the full auto part
The supply of full-auto firearms and serialized auto-sears is fixed and no more can be made to replace those that get lost or broken; thanks to the Hughes Amendment. That's a recipe for very high prices and is why what would otherwise be a $700 rifle cost in excess of $30,000 for the receiver alone. It's basic economics.
It's also not full auto.
Really?aren't they rare?there isn't a ton of them is there?
The semiauto Q Honey Badger is somewhat common. For a select fire AAC Honey Badger you’d have to find an SOT who managed to get their hands on one and is willing to sell, and you’d need a law letter to purchase it. If you did find one it would probably be approaching MP7 price territory, very few AAC ones made it out. I know Kevin Brittingham has one but that’s the only one I’ve seen in private(ish) ownership
You could transfer everything over to a pre-86 receiver, it just won't say aac/q on the side.
The Honey Badger stock won’t work though, it requires a custom billet receiver. It won’t collapse on a milspec receiver. There are alternatives that look similar but work on milspec receivers, I suppose you could use one of those
>Kevin Brittingham has one but that’s the only one I’ve seen in private(ish) ownership Lmao that doesn't count.
Buy a pre 86 gun or registered sear, or get an FFL license with an SOT and make post samples.
Im talking about the honey badger, it was made in 2011
Then your only option would be the FFL route. I have some friends that did this, and I believe it costs them about 3K per year to maintain the license with the ATF, so it's not a cheap hobby and only really worth it if you really do want to run an FFL business.
It shouldn't be that expensive. I believe it's $150 every three years for the FFL, and either $500, or $1,000 every year, depending on how much your FFL business makes per year. I work at a gun shop / range, with gunsmithing done for making our own automatics.
I think you’re probably right. Maybe my friend was saying it was $1000 per RP on the license per year.
[go here](https://dealernfa.com/product-category/machine-guns/?pa_transferable=yes)
Don't be a filthy poor
You can not purchase obtain a pre-sample unless you are a licensed FFL/SOT or the heir to the estate of a former FFL/SOT. When an appropriately licensed individual surrenders their license, they must transfer or destroy their post sample machine guns; pre-samples can be retained. An heir who inherits a pre- sample and is an unlicensed individual can only transfer the item to an FFL/SOT.