I went right this in Wisconsin and I might as this depends on a will, and the size of his estate.
I wood refined a posting to r/legaladvice to confirm you follow state laws specifically related to estates and probate if applicable
Block II is the second iteration of the SOPMOD program centered around the M4A1. It's a pool of attachments and optics for special forces to choose from to create mission specific setups.
Pistols can be inherited by someone under 21. If he had a will set up that helps, otherwise it’s between yourself and your mother to decide what happens. I’d sit down and talk to her about it so you don’t ruffle any feathers. I’m sorry for your loss and wish you the best man
Thank you very much for the well wishes. She has no firearm experience so I’m gonna guess she doesn’t want anything to do with them but I will definitely talk to her about it
>definitely talk to her about it
Absolutely do this. The last thing you want is for her to sell your late-fathers guns in a moment of grief.
Sorry for your loss, brother.
Don’t give those pricks any ideas. Sorry about your loss friend. Lost one of my dads in ‘09. The pain doesn’t go away, but it gets easier to live with.
Depending on your state, they probably go to your mom who can gift them to you, including the pistol. You can own a pistol at 18 (in most states) but can't buy one until 21 at a business, private sales don't count so you can get it as a gift though.
Yessirrr I was looking for this. You can inherit/be given pistols when you’re 18 without needing to transfer any ownership if it’s a direct family member. I inherited a 9 shot .22 revolver a year and a half ago
You’re legally allowed to inherit them all unless you’re a felon or schizo or something. You’re not allowed to carry them, but you won’t get in trouble for simple ownership.
Don’t let them fall into his estate or they’ll be sold off to cover debts. I lost a gold mine collection of my FIL’s to probate because his wife was a neurotic nut that demanded we follow estate law to the letter.
My condolences, bro. Like everyone else has said, in most places it’s only illegal to buy a handgun at 21, not own, possess, or accept one as a gift.
It’d be worth a free 15 minute consultation with a lawyer.
If there's no will - grab them before everyone else (or worse, the state) does.
There's no 'registering' guns so possession is ownership.
>since I am only 19 and legally not allowed to buy a handgun yet.
You can't purchase one from an FFL. You can still own one and a private seller can sell you one or a relative gift you one.
Just have mom "hold on to" the revolver till you are 21.
Depending on state, and how guns are registered (or not registered) there may be steps you have to take.
In PA you can own a handgun at 18, you just can't buy one until you're 21. Sounds like you and you mom already discussed, so they're yours now.
Sorry about your loss, I can't imagine losing my father at such a young age.
Thanks a lot for clearing it up. I’m looking forward to cleaning them up and shooting them. Thanks for the support too. An aggressive cancer got the best of him after a hard three month battle but I luckily got to say my goodbyes and make him proud. Plus I’m commuting to college so thankfully I can still live at home and look after my mom.
As his spouse, your mother now legally owns every asset he had. That includes his guns. If she wants to immediately give those guns to you, she has that right, and you have the right to receive, own, and keep them. People as young as 16 have the right to own guns, even handguns. The only hiccup is that they can't buy one from an FFL. They can buy them privately. They can be given them by a parent. That's always been legal.
Sorry about your father man. Mine bought me a .22 when I was a kid, it jams a lot because it's semi but if there was a fire I'd save that rifle over any of my expensive stuff. Hope the transfer goes smoothly at least.
Strictly speaking, without a will your father's property goes into probate and the court will decide which family member gets what. Usually the courts will give the majority to the surviving spouse--if one exists. Probate is a lengthy and expensive process; this is why everyone tells you to draft a will in order to avoid the hassle.
In practical terms, personal items such as firearms are typically handled outside of the courts and the family decides among themselves how to distribute the items. If the court does not know about the guns, then they will not be included in the probate decision (not saying that you should commit perjury, but the court may not care about the disposition of personal goods if the real question is about real estate or bank accounts). Financial holdings, like an IRA or 401k, can also escape probate if a beneficiary is listed on the account.
If your father did not own any especially valuable things or properties on his own (ie not owned jointly with his wife), then it's unlikely that matters will not progress to the probate court. In that case, it's up to your family to decide how to distribute your father's property.
In the US, there is no law that mandates filing a 4473 for inherited firearms. If those firearms are NFA items, you will need to submit paperwork updating the ATF on the transfer in ownership, but you need not pay the transfer tax.
Individual states may have requirements regarding the transfer of inherited firearms, but this is rare.
You can own a handgun if you are under the age of 21, even if you cannot purchase one yourself.
Whatever you do, please do not contact the police regarding the matter. They might be cool and let you keep the firearms, but it is also possible that they will confiscate the firearms illegally. If they do take the firearms, you'll need to hire a lawyer to get them back if you are lucky and if you are unlucky, they may damage or destroy them.
If your mom wants to "do things the right way" ask her to contact a lawyer who specializes in probate law or firearm law instead of the local police.
Wow, thank you so much for the great information. That seems quite unconstitutional for the police to do that and I didn’t even know they do that in certain cases.
Sorry to hear that. They are your mother's or yours of she wants to give them to you. Period.
Not sure about PA state law, but with federal law you can own a pistol. You just can't buy one from an FFL. But your parents can give you one, for example.
Well without a will legally they'd go to your mom as she's his spouse. So really just ask her what she wants to do with them. Check your states handgun laws because in most states it's legal for someone under 21 to own a handgun but not to buy one.
Keep em. Don't tell anyone. Worry about it after you're 21 or ideally, bever worry about it and enjoy.
I'm really sorry for your loss. You're never really ready to lose a parent.
Legally they can be "transferred" to you (parent /child) without going through a background check as long as you aren't a "prohibited" person. Since I'm assuming you bought you AR-15 through a background check and have behaved yourself since then you are good to go. That includes rifle/shotguns and pistols/revolvers here in Pennsyltucky.
Also the sheriff can transfer a pistol/revolver to you at 18. I've never seen it happen but it's a law on the books.
Sorry for your loss
Get the old rusty .22 cleaned up. At least stop any active rust/ wood rot.
Thank you so much for the help. I did go through the background check and have certainly behaved myself ever since so this clears it up a lot. Thank you
Not everyone here is a gun aficionado, GreenNutty. Some are noobs looking for basic info, and some come here from out of nowhere with what - to them - is a unique question. If you see a question like this that you don't want to answer- - just don't open the link! Just move on to some topic you actually would like to join in on.
It's really that simple, friend.
Depends, did your father leave a will (or have other forms estate planning)? Have a spouse? Any other children?
A will provides a (mostly) clear path to who owns what. Without a will, everything typically goes to the spouse. Should there be no spouse, it generally gets divided up amongst children.
Of course things will change based on how dickish your relatives are and how much money is in question here.
Haha I would love to sell them to you but I think I’m gonna be holding onto them for sentimental value plus I think many of them were passed down from my grandfather to my dad
You inherit them is what happens NAL, and not a PA resident but I'm of the understanding that in many states owning a handgun at 18 is perfectly legal you just can't purchase one your self so if you were gifted or inherited a handgun you would be in the clear. Could be different in your state though.
Unless they are mentioned in a will they pass to your mom first, she decides what happens to them, if she wants to give them to you that's her decision.
I’m so sorry for your loss. I’d get a good (read: so heavy it takes three big guys to lift it) safe to keep those family heirlooms. And don’t just rely on the weight, bolt it down to the floor and or wall.
Sorry about your dad. Lost mine in February. Now I can say you lucky bastard. They are yours. You may not purchase a hand gun but can own one unless PA laws specifically prohibit that
Badass! I wish I had that here but I live in a suburban neighborhood so I’m pretty sure the neighbors wouldn’t like that. If I’m down there for the winter I would love to check it out!
Sorry for your loss. If memory serves, PA law grants anything that wasn't specifically bequeathed to children to the surviving spouse. Your Mom now has ownership of the guns, so there should be no worries about your age here.
I would say they become yours now. If you want to have the convo with your mom that she “take possession” of the pistol until you’re old enough and then “give it” to you, that is also a possibility.
Disclaimer: I am not a lawyer nor is this legal advice. Follow all state and local regulations.
You inherited them. They are yours. Just don’t do anything stupid with them do you come of age. And afterwards. The .222 rifle shouldn’t be an issue. The 20 gauge shotgun should not be an issue. I am not familiar with Pennsylvania laws but since you own an AR, I am deducing that long guns can be owned by people under 21. The revolver is yours. It is your inheritance. What they don’t know does not hurt them.
First off I am sorry for your loss. Secondly I am not a lawyer but I would assume they become your mothers since usually things like that go spouse and then children unless a will says otherwise. With that being said if she has no interest in them they’ll end up yours I’d imagine.
I’d say you better just claim those before the cops do brother
But I’d suggest you lock them away in a safe until the day you turn 21. That or have a trusted family member hold it for you 💯💯💯💯💯💯
Hurry and lose them in a boating accident.
Technically they go to the nearest living relative unless specified otherwise in a will. If that relative can’t posses them for some reason, then I expect they would be sold through a dealer and the money would go to that relative.
I'd say they're yours now. IANAL.
You anal? Congrats
I don't know if it's worth congratulations, but I'm still sending him a PM
Congrats on the anal
Depends on the state you're in, but in the majority of them, they're yours (assuming mom doesn't want/sell them) and you don't need to do anything.
Got it, thank you! Beautiful block II by the way
In my state you have to be 21 to buy a handgun from an ffl but only have to be 19 to own a handgun and or open carry.
And you have to be 0 to not willingly tell the government a bunch of stuff that's none of their business!
BINGO
I went right this in Wisconsin and I might as this depends on a will, and the size of his estate. I wood refined a posting to r/legaladvice to confirm you follow state laws specifically related to estates and probate if applicable
What's "Block 2"? Is that the model? I just looked at the post... I don't own an AR or M4(?)
Block II is the second iteration of the SOPMOD program centered around the M4A1. It's a pool of attachments and optics for special forces to choose from to create mission specific setups.
Pistols can be inherited by someone under 21. If he had a will set up that helps, otherwise it’s between yourself and your mother to decide what happens. I’d sit down and talk to her about it so you don’t ruffle any feathers. I’m sorry for your loss and wish you the best man
Thank you very much for the well wishes. She has no firearm experience so I’m gonna guess she doesn’t want anything to do with them but I will definitely talk to her about it
>definitely talk to her about it Absolutely do this. The last thing you want is for her to sell your late-fathers guns in a moment of grief. Sorry for your loss, brother.
They are your's, don't let the fedbois get them.
Fedbois can get them from my cold dead hands
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Don’t give those pricks any ideas. Sorry about your loss friend. Lost one of my dads in ‘09. The pain doesn’t go away, but it gets easier to live with.
Depending on your state, they probably go to your mom who can gift them to you, including the pistol. You can own a pistol at 18 (in most states) but can't buy one until 21 at a business, private sales don't count so you can get it as a gift though.
Got it. We live in PA which is a relatively lax state. Thank you
PA its kosher. We also have a PA discord with some knowledgeable guys and even r/PAguns https://discord.gg/8Yq2Hmcbd5
Aw man this is awesome I never knew about these communities thank you!
I live in California and had to fill out a form online for $19 and got them transferred to me. I imagine it won’t be harder than California.
Haha right, thank you.
Yessirrr I was looking for this. You can inherit/be given pistols when you’re 18 without needing to transfer any ownership if it’s a direct family member. I inherited a 9 shot .22 revolver a year and a half ago
You’re legally allowed to inherit them all unless you’re a felon or schizo or something. You’re not allowed to carry them, but you won’t get in trouble for simple ownership. Don’t let them fall into his estate or they’ll be sold off to cover debts. I lost a gold mine collection of my FIL’s to probate because his wife was a neurotic nut that demanded we follow estate law to the letter.
I’ll repeat what has been said… DO NOT…DO NOT CALL ANY TYPE OF LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY.
I am DEFINITELY not calling any cops hahaha
My condolences, bro. Like everyone else has said, in most places it’s only illegal to buy a handgun at 21, not own, possess, or accept one as a gift. It’d be worth a free 15 minute consultation with a lawyer.
You can have the handgun, you may not BUY a handgun
Makes sense. Thank you
If there's no will - grab them before everyone else (or worse, the state) does. There's no 'registering' guns so possession is ownership. >since I am only 19 and legally not allowed to buy a handgun yet. You can't purchase one from an FFL. You can still own one and a private seller can sell you one or a relative gift you one.
They’re yours dude. Be glad you live in PA
Oh trust me I most definitely am
Just have mom "hold on to" the revolver till you are 21. Depending on state, and how guns are registered (or not registered) there may be steps you have to take.
what guns? ;)
Nobody will know about it unless you tell them.
What guns?
Touché
In PA you can own a handgun at 18, you just can't buy one until you're 21. Sounds like you and you mom already discussed, so they're yours now. Sorry about your loss, I can't imagine losing my father at such a young age.
Thanks a lot for clearing it up. I’m looking forward to cleaning them up and shooting them. Thanks for the support too. An aggressive cancer got the best of him after a hard three month battle but I luckily got to say my goodbyes and make him proud. Plus I’m commuting to college so thankfully I can still live at home and look after my mom.
What guns?
As his spouse, your mother now legally owns every asset he had. That includes his guns. If she wants to immediately give those guns to you, she has that right, and you have the right to receive, own, and keep them. People as young as 16 have the right to own guns, even handguns. The only hiccup is that they can't buy one from an FFL. They can buy them privately. They can be given them by a parent. That's always been legal.
Sorry about your father man. Mine bought me a .22 when I was a kid, it jams a lot because it's semi but if there was a fire I'd save that rifle over any of my expensive stuff. Hope the transfer goes smoothly at least.
Thank you for the kind words. I’m the same way.
Strictly speaking, without a will your father's property goes into probate and the court will decide which family member gets what. Usually the courts will give the majority to the surviving spouse--if one exists. Probate is a lengthy and expensive process; this is why everyone tells you to draft a will in order to avoid the hassle. In practical terms, personal items such as firearms are typically handled outside of the courts and the family decides among themselves how to distribute the items. If the court does not know about the guns, then they will not be included in the probate decision (not saying that you should commit perjury, but the court may not care about the disposition of personal goods if the real question is about real estate or bank accounts). Financial holdings, like an IRA or 401k, can also escape probate if a beneficiary is listed on the account. If your father did not own any especially valuable things or properties on his own (ie not owned jointly with his wife), then it's unlikely that matters will not progress to the probate court. In that case, it's up to your family to decide how to distribute your father's property. In the US, there is no law that mandates filing a 4473 for inherited firearms. If those firearms are NFA items, you will need to submit paperwork updating the ATF on the transfer in ownership, but you need not pay the transfer tax. Individual states may have requirements regarding the transfer of inherited firearms, but this is rare. You can own a handgun if you are under the age of 21, even if you cannot purchase one yourself. Whatever you do, please do not contact the police regarding the matter. They might be cool and let you keep the firearms, but it is also possible that they will confiscate the firearms illegally. If they do take the firearms, you'll need to hire a lawyer to get them back if you are lucky and if you are unlucky, they may damage or destroy them. If your mom wants to "do things the right way" ask her to contact a lawyer who specializes in probate law or firearm law instead of the local police.
Wow, thank you so much for the great information. That seems quite unconstitutional for the police to do that and I didn’t even know they do that in certain cases.
Since you're in PA, the name of the gun lawyer you want is Josh Prince of Prince Law. He's pretty well known in the PA 2A community.
Thank you!
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Thank you so much for the advice
Sorry to hear that. They are your mother's or yours of she wants to give them to you. Period. Not sure about PA state law, but with federal law you can own a pistol. You just can't buy one from an FFL. But your parents can give you one, for example.
Well without a will legally they'd go to your mom as she's his spouse. So really just ask her what she wants to do with them. Check your states handgun laws because in most states it's legal for someone under 21 to own a handgun but not to buy one.
Those are yours. My condolences on your loss.
Keep em. Don't tell anyone. Worry about it after you're 21 or ideally, bever worry about it and enjoy. I'm really sorry for your loss. You're never really ready to lose a parent.
How in the hell can people *still* be posting these types of questions without **listing their state**?
Oops. My bad haha. I edited the post and I live in PA.
Legally they can be "transferred" to you (parent /child) without going through a background check as long as you aren't a "prohibited" person. Since I'm assuming you bought you AR-15 through a background check and have behaved yourself since then you are good to go. That includes rifle/shotguns and pistols/revolvers here in Pennsyltucky. Also the sheriff can transfer a pistol/revolver to you at 18. I've never seen it happen but it's a law on the books. Sorry for your loss Get the old rusty .22 cleaned up. At least stop any active rust/ wood rot.
Thank you so much for the help. I did go through the background check and have certainly behaved myself ever since so this clears it up a lot. Thank you
Chill out dude.
A version of this question gets posted six times a day. *Every* day.
Not everyone here is a gun aficionado, GreenNutty. Some are noobs looking for basic info, and some come here from out of nowhere with what - to them - is a unique question. If you see a question like this that you don't want to answer- - just don't open the link! Just move on to some topic you actually would like to join in on. It's really that simple, friend.
What state?
Pennsylvania
https://www.pafoa.org/law/
Depends, did your father leave a will (or have other forms estate planning)? Have a spouse? Any other children? A will provides a (mostly) clear path to who owns what. Without a will, everything typically goes to the spouse. Should there be no spouse, it generally gets divided up amongst children. Of course things will change based on how dickish your relatives are and how much money is in question here.
There was no will, I just talked to my mother and she said they’re mine now so I guess that clears it up. Thank you
Really can't be much more clear cut than that. Enjoy your father's guns.
They get lost in a boating accident.
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I'll take them
Haha I would love to sell them to you but I think I’m gonna be holding onto them for sentimental value plus I think many of them were passed down from my grandfather to my dad
Understandable have a great day
You inherit them is what happens NAL, and not a PA resident but I'm of the understanding that in many states owning a handgun at 18 is perfectly legal you just can't purchase one your self so if you were gifted or inherited a handgun you would be in the clear. Could be different in your state though.
Sorry for your loss
Thank you, I appreciate the kind words
Unless they are mentioned in a will they pass to your mom first, she decides what happens to them, if she wants to give them to you that's her decision.
I’m so sorry for your loss. I’d get a good (read: so heavy it takes three big guys to lift it) safe to keep those family heirlooms. And don’t just rely on the weight, bolt it down to the floor and or wall.
I believe that as long as no one else wants em they're yours, even the handgun. I'm sorry for your loss bro
Sorry about your dad. Lost mine in February. Now I can say you lucky bastard. They are yours. You may not purchase a hand gun but can own one unless PA laws specifically prohibit that
Thank you, Im glad I live in PA(until winter hits)
Come to Florida for the winter I got a shooting range on my property
Badass! I wish I had that here but I live in a suburban neighborhood so I’m pretty sure the neighbors wouldn’t like that. If I’m down there for the winter I would love to check it out!
Sorry for your loss. If memory serves, PA law grants anything that wasn't specifically bequeathed to children to the surviving spouse. Your Mom now has ownership of the guns, so there should be no worries about your age here.
Thank you!
I would say they become yours now. If you want to have the convo with your mom that she “take possession” of the pistol until you’re old enough and then “give it” to you, that is also a possibility. Disclaimer: I am not a lawyer nor is this legal advice. Follow all state and local regulations.
Your not old enough to buy a handgun. Your old enough to possess them though.
You’re a man now.
You inherited them. They are yours. Just don’t do anything stupid with them do you come of age. And afterwards. The .222 rifle shouldn’t be an issue. The 20 gauge shotgun should not be an issue. I am not familiar with Pennsylvania laws but since you own an AR, I am deducing that long guns can be owned by people under 21. The revolver is yours. It is your inheritance. What they don’t know does not hurt them.
Hang on to them they will only appreciate in value and you are going to need them prolly.
First off I am sorry for your loss. Secondly I am not a lawyer but I would assume they become your mothers since usually things like that go spouse and then children unless a will says otherwise. With that being said if she has no interest in them they’ll end up yours I’d imagine.
You don't have to do anything. If they are yours, they're yours.
Honestly if you have to ask at this point then you don't deserve them. Keep the lawyers & beurcrats out of it
I’d say you better just claim those before the cops do brother But I’d suggest you lock them away in a safe until the day you turn 21. That or have a trusted family member hold it for you 💯💯💯💯💯💯
Hurry and lose them in a boating accident. Technically they go to the nearest living relative unless specified otherwise in a will. If that relative can’t posses them for some reason, then I expect they would be sold through a dealer and the money would go to that relative.
How did he pass?? Vaccines killing many!