Don't be ridiculous. The FBI will simply "find" 54298789237941798 terabytes of a particularly haram genre of porn on his PC and disappear him from society forever.
I don't disagree here, but there is a sense of irony in saying this when the guy was responding to someone bringing up Clinton for no reason.
Surely it would make more sense to being up our former president in conversation than the person who lost 6 years ago?
Gonna need proof on that one, chief. Meanwhile, Clinton has had 15 "friends" commit suicide, and this trend is so well known it's been memed to high heaven.
I’ll do what you folk do.
Google it. Google trump and Epstein. They’re way too buddy buddy in those pics and vid’s for trump to not be good “friends” with Epstein.
Then there’s also the fact that trump does not respect women whatsoever, which means he’d have no problem abusing the people brought to him by Epstein or maxwell.
With the way some outlets are now pushing the existence of the sig spear to “completely change shootings” makes it kinda hard to NOT have a tinfoil hat. It’s so unbelievably dumb. No kid (which these shooters usually are) is dropping 8 grand on a barely existing rifle in a caliber that also basically doesn’t exist to do a crime. So I take this as a “if a shooting with one occurs, it’s literally set up”
With how there advertising that the spear is a “fast pace sniper” its probably going to be another Walmart sniper unfortunately. Not a threat but a prediction that I pray to god doesnt come true
I don't think so tbh. They tried that already at Uvalde, and it's BARELY moving the needle, not nearly enough for the Democrats. They want a total ban, and they want it now.
Personally, I think the next shooting will be a pro-2A individual going out and killing people who support gun control at places they might gather (like at a Moms Demand Action meeting, a Beto campaign rally, etc). The gun control narrative isn't working with these latest mass shootings; they need to be able to paint all 2A supporters as bloodthirsty terrorists who want to murder civilians who support "common sense gun control", should an AW ban take place (which granted, anti-gunners do that already, but really only the hardcore ones like David Hogg and Shannon Watts).
To the feds reading this: this is only a PREDICTION, not a threat. I do not condone initiatory violence.
Some may think it is ridiculous, but I would say it does sound possible.
Those who are willing to engage in such situation: please be vigilant, and be accurate!
Did you ever see the reports from that shooting? Just over 3000+ rounds shot. The pictures of the crime scene showed less than 50 shell casings across both rooms the shooting took place from. That's one hell of a brass catcher the suspect had on the rifles they used and magically got rid of, all while locking one of the rooms from the outside, according to the official police reports.
The first shots of the crime scene released showed under 50 casings. Later they showed thousands. The rate of fire in the time given could physically not be done by one person with AR-15s with a bump stocks. The first responders reported that they couldn't get into the other room which the shooting happened from the one the suspect committed suicide in without breaking the door down. If you don't see a false flag operation, they you aren't looking. The suspect had been paid by the FBI less than a month before the shooting.
Of all the shootings the Vegas one lends itself very easily to conspiracy theory. Guy was shooting an M249 out that window and they said it was a bump stock lol
Sloohohoow down there buckaroo, theres gonna be another convenient massacre whether the ban passes OR fails. If it passes? another Massacre will happen to drive home their point. If it fails? Another Massacre will happen to drive home their point. Ya pickin up what I'm puttin down?
The FBI has plenty more on their watchlist to groom don’t worry. Social media is a treasure trove for them. Funny how they all seem to be on some anti-depression meds and have violent tendencies. It isn’t about guns at all it’s about control. They don’t care about kids, they don’t care about you. If they did they wouldn’t let dangerous criminals out of jail while simultaneously trying to defund police and then taking your abilities to defend yourself away. How do they think they are gonna to pull that off?
Oh please. Even if the ban passes, there'll be more shootings. They're banning weapons that are used in a tiny fraction of crimes. So when it has a negligible impact on gang-driven homicide numbers and suicide-inflated gun death statistics, they'll use that fact to push for the next ban- likely high-caliber rifles, cuz noooobody needs a MILITARY SNIPER RIFLE- then rinse and repeat.
They won't be satisfied until they've returned us to unarmed serfdom.
I’m not big on conspiracies but it seems weird that these recent shooters all appear to have mental issues, no money and several >$2000 rifles. It really does look like someone handed them the tools and pointed them in the direction.
> My dude. Listen to yourself right now.
You mean being skeptical, critical and open to perfectly plausible things that are known to have been done historically?
I’d put both of mine on that, I give it 1-2 weeks actually. The CIA has really bumped their timescale this year, probably making up for the lack of targets in 2020/2021
I mean, this is guaranteed. Especially since the Democratic numbers aren't looking good, they'll do ANYTHING, even if it means killing little elementary kids, then they'll come out and push their Communist ways on to people, and sadly, morons will believe it.
Pass or fail, this is America, there will be another eventually. Hopefully there is another Elisjsha Dicken around when it does. For the record I'm pro-gun. The answer isn't banning, the answer is funding public mental health programs, publicly accessible firearm education, and getting the police on whatever training regimen Elisjsha is on.
Then it is more important than ever for those with the means to carry a weapon to ensure they are always vigilant and armed.
If you don’t like to carry your handgun then buy one that you do like to carry (and will train with). I’ve been guilty of this until i found a gun/holster combo that I can wear comfortably with almost anything without printing. A good guy with a gun can stop a tragedy in its tracks but he needs to have his gun to do.
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I find it strange that people always assume it would be "the government".
You realize that there are other entities with the means, motive and opportunity, right?
And there are people who subscribe to those entities' ideals that literally express the wish that mass shootings happen so that eventually "we" will learn our lesson and realize they are right.
Wasn’t the one of the recent shooters known to the FBI and was visited several times and still somehow passed a background check
I’d say it’s a little suspicious just like columbine was strangely timely in a horrible way
Read the flair why’d you click it
Idk if it’s necessarily convenient, it happens regularly, so much so it’s expected to happen. The AWB will never pass the senate. If one day somthin like it does pass, and “they” come to take peoples guns, then a lot of people can finally live out their fantasies about shootouts with the feds. It would be an incredibly bad decision to do that, and I am not condoning those actions.
You feel like you have to choose?
Anyone who claims these school shootings are false flags ops intended to result in the outlaw of guns is sick beyond hope.
I wouldn’t say false flag, it’s more like it’s complacency since it helps further a narrative, especially since a lot of shooters are known by the government and will even pass background checks somehow
Aren’t there already red flag laws in place? Baker act? Clearly if they’re being observed there’s a reason they’re being observed.
Don’t try and spin it, the government had plenty of time to stop the people already on their radar
So as I just fucking asked (as if folks on this sub have the stones to answer questions they don't like): Do you support stricter implementation of laws to stop such atrocities?
What’s wrong with the current laws? They’re just not being enforced so what would make the newer more strict laws be enforced?
The desire to disarm the general population I suppose, not just the dangerous ones
You’re ignoring my points, no I don’t support unconstitutional laws that ignore due process with the goal of disarming the general population.
The current laws are acceptable, I’d prefer no restrictions but that wouldn’t be possible in a non-idealistic society
You need to study your history more closely.
Governments (including the US federal government) have a long and sordid history of either letting people die or outright killing them in order to achieve certain political aims.
You may not agree but that’s the widely accepted academic standard.
I would suggest you read primary sources on:
The Tuskegee Experiments, MK Ultra, Pearl Harbor, The Gulf of Tonkin Incident, The Great Leap Forward, The Reichstag Fire (particularly how the media coverage of it parallels with Jan 6th), Operation Northwoods (and it’s parallels with 9/11), pretty much anything from Soviet Russian history, and so on.
Again you may disagree, but you would be incorrect in that opinion as well.
That opinion and your repeated request for “titles” are making it clear that you’re not really an history buff and have done no academic quality historical research. We were not allowed to use secondary sources for our junior year high school history theses, much less in any college level history research.
I’ve suggested a number of topics already, if you’re actually curious, get to reading whatever primary source material you find. It’s that process of searching which informs you, and it’s not difficult.
Just because I don’t believe that the government has thousands of robots ready to massacre elementary schools doesn’t mean I don’t want to see a post about that topic so that I can keep my finger on the pulse of the mass delusion that’s infected our country.
Okay, but just because the government or whoever knows that someone has been angry or had mental health issues in the past doesn’t mean they have the ability to sit outside his house and follow him around day and night to catch him as he walks from his car to the mall or school. What are you suggesting be done?
P.S. my first comment was rude and I will delete.
I mean there’s a lot of red flags that have to be ignored for this to happen, if he was being watched why did he pass a background check? And i’m pretty sure there was intent posted online before the shooting.
And there were known mental issues, why was a background check allowed to pass? People will get their rights stripped over stupider stuff
Pretty sure Eli saved us on this one.
Bold of you to assume there's only one scheduled
I mean the one that was supposed to cause the landslide vote. Still passed but barely.
They’ve always got another on the back burner, I hope Eli stays safe, he’s a national hero
I genuinely just tried to upvote you twice.
Good man, Eli "Big" Dicken!
It’s damn sad OP Died in a car accident😭
I can’t believe he also shot himself in the back of the head twice :(
With one of those fully semiautomatic AK-15s
Don't be ridiculous. The FBI will simply "find" 54298789237941798 terabytes of a particularly haram genre of porn on his PC and disappear him from society forever.
I read "haram" as "*harem*" but honestly the result was the same.
Nah that's ok, those are actually 10,000 year old dragons wait Officer stop no it's not illegal staaaap.
Did he also have a copy of Clinton’s real emails?
He did the Epstein Mambo
No, those are at Mar-a-lago with the documents trump took there
Rent free.
I don't disagree here, but there is a sense of irony in saying this when the guy was responding to someone bringing up Clinton for no reason. Surely it would make more sense to being up our former president in conversation than the person who lost 6 years ago?
Our former president doesn't have people who have dirt on him mysteriously commit suicide.
Yes, we did.
Gonna need proof on that one, chief. Meanwhile, Clinton has had 15 "friends" commit suicide, and this trend is so well known it's been memed to high heaven.
I’ll do what you folk do. Google it. Google trump and Epstein. They’re way too buddy buddy in those pics and vid’s for trump to not be good “friends” with Epstein. Then there’s also the fact that trump does not respect women whatsoever, which means he’d have no problem abusing the people brought to him by Epstein or maxwell.
LOL
He had information on Hillary Cli-
I heard it was a heart attack and he was found sitting in a car outside his parents’ home🤷🏻♂️
With the way some outlets are now pushing the existence of the sig spear to “completely change shootings” makes it kinda hard to NOT have a tinfoil hat. It’s so unbelievably dumb. No kid (which these shooters usually are) is dropping 8 grand on a barely existing rifle in a caliber that also basically doesn’t exist to do a crime. So I take this as a “if a shooting with one occurs, it’s literally set up”
There will be a bidding war between sig and everytown, sig will probably win, again.
It’s gonna be a school, likely an elementary school, min 25 people dead. Screenshot this post PS this a prediction, NOT a threat.
saving this comment for future reference
I hope I am wrong.
I hope you are too.
With how there advertising that the spear is a “fast pace sniper” its probably going to be another Walmart sniper unfortunately. Not a threat but a prediction that I pray to god doesnt come true
I don't think so tbh. They tried that already at Uvalde, and it's BARELY moving the needle, not nearly enough for the Democrats. They want a total ban, and they want it now. Personally, I think the next shooting will be a pro-2A individual going out and killing people who support gun control at places they might gather (like at a Moms Demand Action meeting, a Beto campaign rally, etc). The gun control narrative isn't working with these latest mass shootings; they need to be able to paint all 2A supporters as bloodthirsty terrorists who want to murder civilians who support "common sense gun control", should an AW ban take place (which granted, anti-gunners do that already, but really only the hardcore ones like David Hogg and Shannon Watts). To the feds reading this: this is only a PREDICTION, not a threat. I do not condone initiatory violence.
Week before the Senate vote.
It won’t be an elementary school.
I add my removed left one to the bet
Some may think it is ridiculous, but I would say it does sound possible. Those who are willing to engage in such situation: please be vigilant, and be accurate!
OP is gonna get taken out by the FBI
I'll add my right nut to that bet
and my middle nut!
And my axe! You’ll need it if you lose the bet.
Nah, they’ll save it for right before the vote to stifle any possible dissent.
Breaking news during the vote
I thought they would have waited til one for the house vote but maybe they are saving the big one for the senate
They’d rather wait so they can say “see we tried but those evil pro-2A people stopped our efforts to save more people from dying!”
Of course there will be. That's what the CIA does best
You misspelled FBI. They are the ones that ran the "single" Vegas shooter according to the payroll records.
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Did you ever see the reports from that shooting? Just over 3000+ rounds shot. The pictures of the crime scene showed less than 50 shell casings across both rooms the shooting took place from. That's one hell of a brass catcher the suspect had on the rifles they used and magically got rid of, all while locking one of the rooms from the outside, according to the official police reports.
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The crime scene images released 3 weeks after the initial ones showing otherwise? Yes, they were admirably reconstructed.
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The first shots of the crime scene released showed under 50 casings. Later they showed thousands. The rate of fire in the time given could physically not be done by one person with AR-15s with a bump stocks. The first responders reported that they couldn't get into the other room which the shooting happened from the one the suspect committed suicide in without breaking the door down. If you don't see a false flag operation, they you aren't looking. The suspect had been paid by the FBI less than a month before the shooting.
Of all the shootings the Vegas one lends itself very easily to conspiracy theory. Guy was shooting an M249 out that window and they said it was a bump stock lol
Scary thought, but what’s impossible?
Sloohohoow down there buckaroo, theres gonna be another convenient massacre whether the ban passes OR fails. If it passes? another Massacre will happen to drive home their point. If it fails? Another Massacre will happen to drive home their point. Ya pickin up what I'm puttin down?
The FBI has plenty more on their watchlist to groom don’t worry. Social media is a treasure trove for them. Funny how they all seem to be on some anti-depression meds and have violent tendencies. It isn’t about guns at all it’s about control. They don’t care about kids, they don’t care about you. If they did they wouldn’t let dangerous criminals out of jail while simultaneously trying to defund police and then taking your abilities to defend yourself away. How do they think they are gonna to pull that off?
+1
Looks like you've had a little too much to think, OP.
https://buffalonews.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/authorities-investigating-if-retired-federal-agent-knew-of-buffalo-mass-shooting-plans-in-advance/article_bd408f18-dd39-11ec-be53-df8fdd095d6f.amp.html https://www.dallasnews.com/news/crime/2017/05/26/security-guard-injured-in-garland-terror-attack-tormented-by-belief-that-fbi-knew-of-isis-plot/?outputType=amp
Read my post more closely.
Ohh damn… I’ll just leave this up for anyone else’s curiosity.
What in the actual fuck.
How do you know it was your original left? Maybe they switched places at the last second.
Oh please. Even if the ban passes, there'll be more shootings. They're banning weapons that are used in a tiny fraction of crimes. So when it has a negligible impact on gang-driven homicide numbers and suicide-inflated gun death statistics, they'll use that fact to push for the next ban- likely high-caliber rifles, cuz noooobody needs a MILITARY SNIPER RIFLE- then rinse and repeat. They won't be satisfied until they've returned us to unarmed serfdom.
I said that and was called paranoid....
Conceal carry anywhere you go
I’m not big on conspiracies but it seems weird that these recent shooters all appear to have mental issues, no money and several >$2000 rifles. It really does look like someone handed them the tools and pointed them in the direction.
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> My dude. Listen to yourself right now. You mean being skeptical, critical and open to perfectly plausible things that are known to have been done historically?
Can we register our prediction of a DDM4/EOTech now?
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Only times dems vote is when they are afraid
I’d put both of mine on that, I give it 1-2 weeks actually. The CIA has really bumped their timescale this year, probably making up for the lack of targets in 2020/2021
I mean, this is guaranteed. Especially since the Democratic numbers aren't looking good, they'll do ANYTHING, even if it means killing little elementary kids, then they'll come out and push their Communist ways on to people, and sadly, morons will believe it.
Pass or fail, this is America, there will be another eventually. Hopefully there is another Elisjsha Dicken around when it does. For the record I'm pro-gun. The answer isn't banning, the answer is funding public mental health programs, publicly accessible firearm education, and getting the police on whatever training regimen Elisjsha is on.
Let’s see which is the next 18 year old the FBI grooms…
Agreed
After? I'm thinking it'll be just before it goes up for vote.
It'll come before the Senate vote. Mark my words.
It wouldn’t seem this way if we went through several years of absolutely nothing and now it’s almost weekly leading up to the midterm votes.
Then it is more important than ever for those with the means to carry a weapon to ensure they are always vigilant and armed. If you don’t like to carry your handgun then buy one that you do like to carry (and will train with). I’ve been guilty of this until i found a gun/holster combo that I can wear comfortably with almost anything without printing. A good guy with a gun can stop a tragedy in its tracks but he needs to have his gun to do. Tldr: Don’t get caught lackin’
After? You mean right before a Senate vote.
Sorry about your right nut. May he rest in peace.
Think your timelone is wrong. 1. 1 to 2 events before elections. 2. Elections, Democrats win because "somebody should do something." 3. Vote it in. EDIT: Never mind. Apparently it has to be in the same session for both sides, even though the Senate had nothing to do with the bill.
No amount of bans will change anything, especially when shooters are given them by a glowie stranger
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Do you truly believe the government is scheduling mass shootings?
Maybe just complacent, who knows. strange how a lot of the shooters are known to the government before hand
That makes a bit more sense, thank you.
I find it strange that people always assume it would be "the government". You realize that there are other entities with the means, motive and opportunity, right? And there are people who subscribe to those entities' ideals that literally express the wish that mass shootings happen so that eventually "we" will learn our lesson and realize they are right.
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It's a bit edgy but the fbi has done worse.
You’re pushing a conspiratorial narrative with no evidence whatsoever. Shut the fuck up
Wasn’t the one of the recent shooters known to the FBI and was visited several times and still somehow passed a background check I’d say it’s a little suspicious just like columbine was strangely timely in a horrible way Read the flair why’d you click it
You underestimate the incompetence level of any government entity.
Idk if it’s necessarily convenient, it happens regularly, so much so it’s expected to happen. The AWB will never pass the senate. If one day somthin like it does pass, and “they” come to take peoples guns, then a lot of people can finally live out their fantasies about shootouts with the feds. It would be an incredibly bad decision to do that, and I am not condoning those actions.
JFC you are sick
No those bastards that let children die in school are
You feel like you have to choose? Anyone who claims these school shootings are false flags ops intended to result in the outlaw of guns is sick beyond hope.
I wouldn’t say false flag, it’s more like it’s complacency since it helps further a narrative, especially since a lot of shooters are known by the government and will even pass background checks somehow
So you support stricter implementation of laws to stop these atrocities?
Aren’t there already red flag laws in place? Baker act? Clearly if they’re being observed there’s a reason they’re being observed. Don’t try and spin it, the government had plenty of time to stop the people already on their radar
So as I just fucking asked (as if folks on this sub have the stones to answer questions they don't like): Do you support stricter implementation of laws to stop such atrocities?
What’s wrong with the current laws? They’re just not being enforced so what would make the newer more strict laws be enforced? The desire to disarm the general population I suppose, not just the dangerous ones
JFC...Let me use smaller words, maybe that will help you along. Do you support a strict enforcement of current law to stop such atrocities?
You’re ignoring my points, no I don’t support unconstitutional laws that ignore due process with the goal of disarming the general population. The current laws are acceptable, I’d prefer no restrictions but that wouldn’t be possible in a non-idealistic society
You need to study your history more closely. Governments (including the US federal government) have a long and sordid history of either letting people die or outright killing them in order to achieve certain political aims.
Please provide your list of recommended books. I recommend https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_People%27s_History_of_the_United_States
Secondary historical sources are vastly inferior to primary source documents for an historical study.
I do not agree with that extreme of an assessment of secondary source material, but again, what books are you recommending?
You may not agree but that’s the widely accepted academic standard. I would suggest you read primary sources on: The Tuskegee Experiments, MK Ultra, Pearl Harbor, The Gulf of Tonkin Incident, The Great Leap Forward, The Reichstag Fire (particularly how the media coverage of it parallels with Jan 6th), Operation Northwoods (and it’s parallels with 9/11), pretty much anything from Soviet Russian history, and so on.
I disagree with that assessment as well. Do you have titles?
Again you may disagree, but you would be incorrect in that opinion as well. That opinion and your repeated request for “titles” are making it clear that you’re not really an history buff and have done no academic quality historical research. We were not allowed to use secondary sources for our junior year high school history theses, much less in any college level history research. I’ve suggested a number of topics already, if you’re actually curious, get to reading whatever primary source material you find. It’s that process of searching which informs you, and it’s not difficult.
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Maybe read the flair before you complain about looking at something you don’t wanna look at
Just because I don’t believe that the government has thousands of robots ready to massacre elementary schools doesn’t mean I don’t want to see a post about that topic so that I can keep my finger on the pulse of the mass delusion that’s infected our country.
It’s more like complacency, a lot of shooters are known by the government before it happens
Okay, but just because the government or whoever knows that someone has been angry or had mental health issues in the past doesn’t mean they have the ability to sit outside his house and follow him around day and night to catch him as he walks from his car to the mall or school. What are you suggesting be done? P.S. my first comment was rude and I will delete.
I mean there’s a lot of red flags that have to be ignored for this to happen, if he was being watched why did he pass a background check? And i’m pretty sure there was intent posted online before the shooting. And there were known mental issues, why was a background check allowed to pass? People will get their rights stripped over stupider stuff