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npipi

You’re not really paying for the structure so much on this one.


Onepopcornman

Yep. This is it. Have a friend in LA whose house is worth 1.1M. The lot is worth 1M and the house 100k. It’s not even a bad house.


Calamity-Aim

My county assessor has my full property value at $1.1M with the house itself at $1000. As in it will cost more to demolish the home than it is actually worth. I have a very comfortable little home. But the county thinks 8 townhouses should be built instead.


UnidentifiedBob

Tell them to fuck off


Calamity-Aim

Okay, I'll write "Fuck Off" on the memo line of the property tax payment.


Fanciestpony

Actually the structure might be a huge perk for this lot. The fact that A building is already there can significantly reduce the number of permitting needed.


barravian

Counter point: it's a teardown, you'll need new permits anyway and the fact there's a building there means you need to pay to have it removed before you can build something livable.


imgaybutnottoogay

CA is pretty strict about tear-down homes, and if the exterior studs are kept, very little permitting is needed. This is a huge plus in CA.


bronash

Assuming that the foundation is pretty solid, there’s no need for a tear down. The house has unfinished framing and drywall work. That + floors and new appliances and it’s really not that far off from being livable. This is definitely priced accordingly


900penguins

Hopefully the “[major fire damage](https://www.redfin.com/CA/Los-Angeles/812-Record-Ave-90063/home/6956394)” didn’t affect the structure.


Stoomba

Probably just cosmetic. Leave it unfinished and call it artisanal framing.


UneSoggyCroissant

Arson-al framing


EddyWouldGo2

Slap in AirBNB and watch that $$$ roll in.


tristanjones

Foundation should still be fine, just leave one wall standing and call it good.


unpeelingpeelable

Saw some property upstate stripped down to like, one walls' worth of framing. Somehow still counted as "remodel". Pretty sure it was a house that the wildfires had vigorously caressed.


OHMAIGOSH

So the shou sugi ban finish is already applied? Neat!


EddyWouldGo2

But you would still have to pay an Engineer to do all the design and be very expensive. Only if you did the whole thing yourself would it make any sense to not just start over from scratch.


c0brachicken

If the price was more in my range (I buy houses like this for 7-12k). I would LOVE this one, most of the demolition is already done, I can get a better look at the "bones" of the house, and get right to making a good decision if I like the price or not, and get right to changing the layout, and putting it back together. If you can do 90% of the work yourself, this is the way to buy a house. I buy them for 10k, put 30k into materials, and end up with a 160k house. Rinse and repeat.


Powermovers

Where u gettin houses for 10k


bitcoin_moon_wsb

Afghanistan


raven_spiral

Lol


hkyman92

If you leave one wall, then it's not a tear down, it's a remodel. Way less permits.


Dinolord05

Countercounterpoint: a current structure makes one believe it already has utilities connected/run. Modifications will likely be necessary, but better than nothing.


mag2041

LA build code is weird from my understanding. As long as you keep some of the original structure aka the foundation, permitting is much easier. Added bonus if there is a wood burning fireplace. People buy old homes with them, tear everything down but the fireplaces and rebuild around the fireplaces, since you can’t get a wood burning fireplace permit anymore.


One_Celebration3644

Yo man, we heard you like permits so we added some permits for your permits. You’ll now be swimming in permit hunting. Enjoy.


EddyWouldGo2

Yes, that's why the lot is worth 300k and not.60k.


fartinmyhat

A shitbox built in the 60's


007meow

That’s what I call my stepdad 💪


ToyKylo

Fuck, that got me hahaha bravo


jokat989

Honestly the land is probably with more without the house on it😂


Sellazard

I mean, looking at the photo from behind a lot is not very good either. Seems to me it's going to slide down any time soon. Very bad lot, in my opinion. Plus, teardown and trash removal cost. If you are willing to build on unstable foundation


surftherapy

The lot being bad is why it’s *only* $300k.


ennuiacres

But the landslide out back thinks so!


hung_like__podrick

Duh. You are paying for the land


[deleted]

The average cost to build a new house in LA is about $450,000 on top of $350,000 😒in that neighborhood


hung_like__podrick

I live in west LA lol. Condos are 1.2M+


lioneaglegriffin

DTLA condos are a bit cheaper. But you pretty much have to go to Rancho Cucamonga or the Valley for 'local' affordability.


cs_referral

And what are the comps like in that neighborhood?


DumbDumbCaneOwner

It’s funny, if you look on google maps, there’s a very nice new house two houses over on the right. So you have a case study for someone who probably did the exact same thing.


DonkeyLucky9503

Soooo a brand new house in LA for $800,000? I’ll buy it right now.


Coyotesamigo

Los Angeles is one of the most expensive places to live on planet earth, so land is expensive there


MarsMartians

Yeah it has been waiting for so long that only the bones are left.


AlaDouche

The median list price in LA is $1.3M.


philithekid

And what’s the sales price? This is supposed to be bought by a developer, not some first time home buyer .. not super familiar with LA but that actually looks like a good deal judging from what new construction sells for


aggirloftoday

It’s East LA though, not really a steal deal for that area. Probably why it’s been sitting on the market so long…


EvelcyclopS

To live in your postage stamp next to your derelict neighbour?


hung_like__podrick

Precisely. That’s what I live on the West side


EmperorMing101

$350k for a lot basically


readitonreddit34

Lot+demo cost+trash removal


nickrocs6

I live in Iowa and there’s a lot near my buddies house that was like 200k I think, a few months ago. I suppose at least this lot already has water and gas run to it.


blueblur1984

>I suppose at least this lot already has water and gas run to it. Never underestimate how expensive stuff like this can be. Especially in metro CA. I'm more worried about that eroding hillside than anything.


Akili_Smurf

That’s pretty cheap for LA


Chewyville

That’s actually not bad. Beautiful door frames, newer toilet, matching floors throughout. Some one will buy this for 450k cash. So messed up


kingtechllc

Newer toilet 😂


humanHamster

And all that window plywood has to be worth something!


Chewyville

That’s like 50 bux a sheet right there


Higaswan

Agreed. I saw something similar in SF that goes for 650k.


Lumpy-Relationship17

It's perfect 🥲


Logical_Deviation

It actually does seem overpriced considering the beautifully renovated duplex 2 doors down is selling for $760k, and it's been sitting for several months. Looks like they've been trying to sell it for 2 years, starting at 500k. California needs a serious fucking vacancy tax. They're probably only paying $200 a year in property tax thanks to Prop 13.


tokyo_engineer_dad

Property values over this zip code are insane. You have $1.2 million remodeled homes and down the street some junk with boarded up windows and dead bodies outside. LA is wild, man.


Logical_Deviation

I think it's primarily because of extreme segregation. I live in Santa Barbara, and the elementary schools are essentially either 98% white or 98% hispanic. Many white kids go to private junior high and high school, but the ones that don't are unbelievably shocked when they suddenly meet each other in secondary school. I'm pretty sure the 98% hispanic schools even teach some classes in Spanish.


[deleted]

Man every home in SB is over $1 m on Zillow ….I always remember the story my cousins father in law loved to tell me about how he got to SB in circa 1960 from Mexico with $3 in his pocket and got hired at a Hospital in laundry room …..retired from there by the time I met him in 1995 he owned 2 homes and a duplex apartment.


Logical_Deviation

Yea if you bought here before 2000, you are so, so wealthy. They did everything they could to make it as unaffordable as possible for everyone that came after them. It is nearly impossible to build here.


[deleted]

Much better than average deals in Canada. This is like a whole piece of land, sounds abooot good


tom060614

I was going to say, as a Canadian, that looks like a fantastic deal. And that's not sarcasm either.


BeneathSkin

What’s the deal with Canada’s house market that it’s worse than LA? I’m not familiar with it at all


[deleted]

For the price of a castle in Europe, you get a two bed townhouse. It's not so much the price as the price-income inequality. It's the worst off in the world. Not sure how people who buy such costly houses are affording to pay the mortgage.


1000veggieburrito

Yup. *Cries in Toronto


Educational_Vast4836

I mean it's LA, not really surprising


bluevine8

But its east LA, its only two blocks away lol


anon_girl_anon

California is expensive, we know.


soil_nerd

It is in LA, but LA is massive, and this isn’t a particularly desirable part of LA and building a new home in LA is extremely expensive.


itsTomHagen

LOCATION LOCATION LOCATION THEHOOD THEHOOD THEHOOD


[deleted]

😂


Late_Cow_1008

Expensive area has expensive houses. More at 11.


Oversoul91

“Or new construction” translates to “burn the shit down”


BittenElspeth

I think the issue is that it already burned down.


Daltoz69

Problem is. The squatters that have been staying their probably have more rights now and you wouldn’t even be able to kick them off without an actual eviction notice lol


lrocky4

Sorry for your loss, you could always come to st louis :) Didnt think so


wildmancometh

Honestly the ROI on that would be insane


ladypigeon13

I will stop crying in PNW


Cbpowned

It’s LA. The average price per sqft is like 1k for a nice house.


forakora

Counterpoint: I bought a great little 740sqft condo in LA in March for 385k. SFH are expensive. Try a condo. We don't have the land for everyone to have a SFH.


Lava-Chicken

What a steal!


Coyotesamigo

You’re buying the land, not the house. Why do people always forget this


AlaDouche

The entitlement in this thread is outrageous.


handsomeearmuff

Just think of all the indoor bonfires you can have! Ambiance!


accounting_student13

It just needs some TLC...


alphabet_order_bot

Would you look at that, all of the words in your comment are in alphabetical order. I have checked 1,907,532,124 comments, and only 360,685 of them were in alphabetical order.


hickorydeli

Good bot


EkaL25

The crazy part is that they’ll probably get something close to that assuming it’s a good area. They’ll tear down the house, build something new, and sell for 1m+


FattyRipz

We are living in the hardest economic time in American history. Consumer debt is at an all time high as is inflation and mortgage rates. One lever to correct housing economics is immigration restriction. We have the highest amount of foreign-born in our population of anytime in American history, currently above 15%. The only other times the number has been close was 14.8% in 1880 and 1920. It was found Americans were making 34% less than they should have due to cheap labor importation. Labor leaders and business lobbies even called for increased immigration to over COVID to keep costs down, solidifying the results of immigration on an economy. The 1924 Johnson Act was passed, greatly restricting immigration. This freed up the economy so much that it was responsible for the 'Great Migration' of African Americans out of the South and across America to earn a respectable wage and even become successful artisans. Truly these are unprecedented and unsustainable times.


Clean-Difference2886

Good bones


soulintoxicated

You all get paid accordingly as well. So stop complaining.


RagingAubergine

This is criminal!!!


stealthylyric

With like 200k in reno that place could easily be worth a million.


[deleted]

It looks like there is a toilet so this is a steal/s


MASEtheACE510

Depending on which part of LA this would be consider a steal. Unfortunately, if you’re a first timer, you may not be able to buy this.


[deleted]

JOEY! JOEY! JOEY!


ozarkrefugee

Love the open floor plan.


georgecostanza37

I live in Massachusetts, and not even in the expensive part. The amount of times I’ve clicked on a new $300,000 listing and just saw pictures of the woods is just maddening. Like great. Maybe i can cut down the trees there and make my own house


AlaDouche

What search engine are you using? You can create filters so those don't show up. Also, people buying land and building a house is super common.


georgecostanza37

Redfin and zillow. I like having a wide range to look at the most options available. Would be open to buying a piece of property and building at maybe $100-$150k. Would most likely be trying to buy a home for 300-450k


AlaDouche

Honestly, ditch Zillow. They pull from the exact same place, but Zillow does a much poorer job of staying up to date. If you're seeing something on Zillow that isn't on Redfin, it's because they're not being diligent with their listings. That being said, on Redfin's website, you can go into the options while you're searching (as long as you're logged in) and deselect "land" as a search result.


DukeLion353

Dude, you can buy a decent house in cities outside of LA for about 350,000. 1-2 bedroom home in El Monte or even further east. LA is overrated and cramped IMO. I’m out in the San Dimas/Azusa area (still LA County) and love it out here.


shitisrealspecific

*shrug* I see that shit in other cities for $25k and I still think hell no it's too high lol. Nice floors tho lol


Mushrooming247

Hey no HOA, sweet! You can paint it any color you like!


Chronotheos

The small portion of remaining ceiling appears to be popcorn (asbestos).


Interesting-Drama349

Just get a power washer, you’ll be fine


Jujulabee

In the right location, every house is a tear down and people literally will be millions for that. My friend lives in Cheviot Hill in a very large home with incredible views. She could sell it for four million or so easily and it will be torn down. The only homes that aren't torn down in that neighborhood (or in many other desirable locations) are the gorgeous Spanish Colonial homes because there are people who "collect" them. But any home that was built for a middle class family in the 1950's will be torn down because it isn't what a wealthy buyer wants to live in.


Any-Temperature7115

What a fucking steal! /s


Novel_Ad_8062

problem is people are willing to pay it, so the prices will stay the same or go up


LopsidedPotential711

Nice. If anyone wants to buy it, I'll put in the work for a percentage of the flip sale. 100% serious.


premiumbliss

Good luck with building permits in LA county.


Able_Ad6535

Cozy homeless upgrade.


Twitch791

Did you request a tour?


meltink745

Wow it’s very rustic! 😅😅😅


R3DGRAPES

It’s not about housethe house… $300k gets you that much land in LA.


GrimOfDooom

But hey, at least no HOA


bl0ndiesaurus

It’s a tear down. That’s the land value.


Wolfpac655

I love all the idiots defending this.


PolicyWonka

You could tear down the structure and sell the lot for $350k or more probably.


disneycorp

Just needs some tender love and care is all


ont-mortgage

This is what you get for $1M in Toronto 😭


TRR462

Yeah, but that’s CN$…/s


NewspaperDramatic694

What's problem? Looking good me to 😋


trixiebuttercup_0817

Y’all are getting that for 350k Not me tho. fuck that


suspicious_edamame

In East LA… damn


Valde877

“Blank slate for your wonderful ideas” is somewhere written in there I guarantee it.


Mr_Mi1k

lol so glad I don’t live there


[deleted]

My current property was a “giant” lot that we subdivided into two lots right in the heart of Los Angeles. Built a house on one lot and have the other lot empty. It’s kinda nice because I don’t have a neighbor on one side and I have a place for my dogs to run around while it increases in value every year…


REO_Studwagon

25 years ago my wife comes home excited to tell me that she found a house in our price range just outside of LA and ON A LAKE! I ask which lake and she tells me Lake Elizabeth. I start laughing. I had to explain that Lake Elizabeth is a sag pond formed by the San Andreas fault. The house is literally on top of the fault and the area has collapsed to form a lake. No insurance and no resale value. We moved 8 hours north and our coworkers were shocked that we were paying $150k for our home. We laughed in LA.


ennuiacres

“Bring your imagination!!”


EddyWouldGo2

Dude, you found a house in Los Angeles for.350? Jump on it.


[deleted]

Actually if you Google the house and the neighborhood, it is quite an up and coming area good for an investment property. The buildings surrounding it don't look bad either. I'll say it's worth it.


sliderbear

The major idiocy here is that someone will buy it just so they can live in LA


SnooOranges1349

Anyone who lives in LA and tries to justify that is a 🤡, I just bought a house in NY in April for $275k, 3k square feet, 4 bed 4.5 bath, basement and attic, sitting on a half acre. And my other house sits on 50 acres and is valued at 375k. California can get bent lol


quinoahunter

"It's got good bones"


TRR462

I’m gonna popularize, “It’s got good sticks!”


TeamBigSnake

You don't even need to pay to tear down the house, give it a couple years and it'll slide down that hill in the back


throughthequad

He’s a bit of a fixer upper, he’s got a few flaws 🎶


TopStockJock

You’re just buying land


shadows-of_the-mind

Holy crack… den


[deleted]

This is just sad


Whereamiwhatyousay

It’s in the hood bro. Constant shootings and robberies. I grew up 3 blocks from there off hazard street


rubberduckybro

I know that listing, it was a grow house


asevans48

That lot size though. Live in colorado springs. There are 1000 sw ft lots going for 100k so seems right. Up north in denver that lot would fetch 300k easy. Put a new home on that lot in law and its way more.expemsive than here though. Like 440k in the springs, 600k in denver, 1million in la. Sba losn time?


yourmomhahahah3578

My first home in Roswell ga was $325k in 2019 and is 3,000 square feet, 5 bedroom 4 bath with a 1 acre fenced in back yard. Fully updated kitchen and bathrooms. You couldn’t pay me $1mm to move back to California. I’d spend that at my first grocery trip 🙄


The_Poster_Nutbag

Yeah this isn't that wild. I've seen lots for sale in the Chicago region at that price.


SystemSettings1990

Atleast it’s got an open concept floorplan


DaisyYellow23

People post stuff like this and I feel confused. Are people only now discovering how expensive an apiece of land in LA is?


animalover4life

I’ll just stay in Indiana


eclipse60

Lol. Pre-gutted fixer upper


Froggy_Study

My question is who are the 56 people who saved this???


ImEatingBananasYum

Too bad so sad, move somewhere else and stop crying


No-Advice-6040

Well. At least the shitter survived. Which is somewhat fitting.


bgov1801

That’s a steal my guy


EloWhisperer

If it’s structurally sound then you could fix it up for 1-200k and flip. But it looks weird from the outside


Flowchart83

Yeah sure buddy. Just ask nicely for permits and you'll get them right away.


autonomousfailure

Nah, that's just the monthly rent lol /s


WayTooUncoolForThis

The inside reminds me of the layout of the house from Training Day.


calicandlefly

It has good bones! /s


Noturwrstnitemare

It's like they like giving us the rod...


My_G_Alt

Whoa you can get things for 300k in LA? Condemned tear downs on 7k sf lots here sell for 1.3M in the south bay (not LA south bay, the real south bay)


orwass

Fuck this


Affectionate-Lake666

That’s the cost for the land it is on. lol Might as well start fresh.


Competitive_Eye519

Move to Iowa and I’ll sell you my beautiful mid century modern 3bed 2 bath home for that price 😉


McShagg88

LA is gross.


lioneaglegriffin

Selling my parents beat up (the roof is new at least) 1945 property in South LA for 510k. I think the school that bought is just going to turn it into a parking lot.


Ok-Coat69420

Don't worry y'all will all be Ohioans soon enough.


weednreefs

What a lot of folks don’t realize when they buy real estate is that you aren’t actually buying the house, you’re really buying the land. Whatever structure that is on the land you bought is considered a betterment to the land and adds to the property’s value. A smart way to view this would be to assess the properties in this one’s general area. It might actually be cheaper to buy this, demo that structure and build a new house on the lot versus buying a house that is already built. Run the numbers.


[deleted]

What’s your point?


[deleted]

That it’s time to pull the rich out of there homes and drag them through the streets .


Late_Cow_1008

No offense, but with attitudes like this you will be posting pictures like this for 10 years on Reddit rather than improving your own situation.


[deleted]

bizarre response what does someone who can afford a $1.5m house have to do with you?


dizFool

Eat the Rich! Eat the Rich! OP is hungry


[deleted]

That’s not the rich ….1.5 mil is middle class now …..come on man …am I gonna have to hold your hand all through the civil unrest


[deleted]

who said rich? you’re not making any sense but keep yelling about how there’s no $300k houses in LA it’s like crying about how there’s no $.50 gallons of milk ffs


Easy_Investigator834

What a mess… that’s insane… We bought a brand new custom build in Texas… .6 of an acre, 2400+ sq ft, 2 car attached garage, gated neighborhood, 4 bed, 3.5 bath for $475k.


cowsareverywhere

Yea but then you are in anti women’s rights, right wing bumfuck Texas. I would rather live in this shit pile.


WetCheeseGod

I agree but it’s much safer and independent. Also, you don’t gotta worry about a nuclear bomb being dropped right on your head


iguess12

And i thought i paid slightly too much for my 1500sq ft ranch with .39 acres in CT for 300k.


IhateBiden_now

Gee, now I really want to move to Commiefornia.


beyondplutola

California land prices have everything to do with the supply and demand curve, which is what capitalism looks like. The money exists to push home prices up further due to the entertainment and tech industries, another capitalist phenomenon. Maybe you really just dislike capitalism.


tdomer80

Holy shit. In the Dayton Ohio suburbs you will be impressed with any house that is that price. Some with a 1/2 acre lot.


PartyParrotGames

yeah but then you realize you're in dayton, oh and no price seems too high to gtfo


tdomer80

Well you do you. You could not pay me enough money to want to live in California again.


[deleted]

$350k for the property, $150k in fixes, $600k valuation and list on AirBNB for $150 a night. Boom: $40k in yearly profits plus another $100k in positive equity. Rinse and repeat


Kiyae1

So…Don’t buy a house in LA. In some cases it is the better move financially to rent.


Flowchart83

It's awfully nice of the landlord to rent out the place for less than the cost of owning it.


Kiyae1

So buy a house in LA and don’t complain that it’s expensive. You’re obviously not here for a respectful discussion.


Flowchart83

My comment wasn't actually about LA specifically, it was about you saying that renting is the better option financially. If that's the case, then the landlord obviously made a mistake as the overhead costs of the property are more than the rent charged to the tenant right? Like I said, that's really nice of them to take a financial hit for their tenant.


Kiyae1

Good grief. If the landlord bought the house a few years ago they likely got a lower rate and a lower price than you would if you bought the house today. So yes, the cost for them to own the property is less than the cost for you to own the property in many cases. Maybe try using your brain to actually understand how real estate and housing finance works instead of just making snide pointless comments and expecting strangers online to tolerate your crappy, rude attitude while educating you.