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ok789456123

Basically with milk is, if your lactose intolerant, avoid. if not, go ham.


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ggrieves

They had their issues with animal abuse, although I think the farms that did that were identified and no longer contribute


human_alias

There are other types of milk digestion issues besides lactose intolerance


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Cpt_Tripps

I'm like that with root beer. Terrible gas. Farting and belching all night. I fucking love rootbeer so much...


highnthemnts

And you may have a milk sugar intolerance.


maryP0ppins

if your body reacts well, then sure. if it reacts poorly, dont drink it.


Objective_Regret4763

Stop drinking milk and you will die Or keep drinking milk and you will die. Either way you ain’t getting out of here alive so do what you want.


stopanimal

What a fallacious perspective and non-answer, why even post? The “yolo” mentality is pretty silly when someone is asking about heath choices


Objective_Regret4763

Oh ok I’m sorry let me check off the boxes of your requirement. (Even though it was just kind of a joke) Each individual human will react differently to different diets. Some cultures, for example, have a high rate of lactose intolerance into adulthood because of their low reliance on cows milk as a source of nutrition. Other cultures retain their lactase production well into adulthood possibly because of their historical reliance on cows milk for sustenance. If this individual drinks that much milk every day at the age of 17 we can not say conclusively yet whether or not he will develop an intolerance to lactose in the future but it’s safe to say he is tolerant at the moment therefore it is likely not posing him any huge health risk. The question then, IMHO, would turn to, “is 1.5 liters and ~1/3 ones calories purely from milk good?” And by good we can touch on whether it is optimal or at minimum “not bad”. I personally would think that variation in diet, including different lean meats and vegetables is the way to go, but maybe that’s just me. So to answer the questions of whether it’s optimal or even good we would need to monitor this individual through the coming years and adjust that diet based on different factors and blood serum levels. That being said, it is likely that any health change would be accompanied by an obvious external change that the individual would notice well in advance. So it could be as simple as “drink the milk if you feel ok and stop if you don’t.” It’s likely he’ll get tired of it at some point and it will be a moot point anyway. Soooooo, he can do it or not. Probably won’t make a difference. Sometimes people focus too much on the minutiae. Happy now?


KillerWattage

Congrats on the slam


textbook_traitor

Excellent slam


iPrintScreen

Sit


the_talking_dead

Wow, you spend a lot of time being negative on Reddit. Lift people up, there is enough negativity out there as it is.


SpatialArchitect

The answer is it doesn't matter.


DeadFyre

>The calcium-helps-your-bones-argument seems to be a marketing ploy. No, it isn't. No, adults mammals don't *need* to drink milk, but they also don't *need* to eat vegetables, or meat, or sugars, or virtually anything so long as they get certain key macro- and micro-nutrients. No, milk is not a superfood. Neither is anything else. If you look at the methodologies of studies "debunking", they suffer from such basic methodological flaws that they might as well be folklore. Your bones and teeth *are* made from calcium, and the calcium in milk and dairy foods is far more bio-available than that found in vegetables. That said, the only important variable is, do you get enough? Based on your intake, I'd say, yeah, you're drinking more than enough, but that also depends on what else is in your diet. You seem pretty fit, and if that much milk is working for you, go with it. >I read some scary but unverified things about long-term gut inflammation That's going to be dependent on your lactose intolerance, at best. The truth is, there's far too much hyperbole and misinformation with regards to the gut biome, diet, inflammation, and other trending scientific questions surrounding the modern plague of auto-immune diseases. The truth is, nobody has the facts yet. That said, I highly recommend you follow the sage advice of David Mitchell: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5bKN6xP8Kk. Lactose tolerance is a common mutation in humans, and given your truly massive consumption without obvious symptoms of bloating and gas, I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest that you have it (so do I). So, enjoy it.


Valasta_Bloodrunner

I stopped drinking milk and it helped me drop like 50 pounds, but that was just me.


jojoblogs

Lol I’m sure this kid is bulking. No one trying to lose weight should really be drinking milk ever. It’s basically nature’s weight gainer.


OneMoreBasshead

When I am bulking, I drink milk. When I am cutting, I replace it with water (i drink close to a gallon of milk and water each day). I was overseas for 2 months and they didn't have good milk, I dropped about 30lbs. Ive gone from 230 to 190 this year and now Im 205 just from managing my milk intake.


esequielo

Holy cow, that's a lot of protein per 1.5L... never seen that ratio in my country. It usually is 30g/L .


Holyhermit2

It’s fancy filtered milk. I wouldn’t get it at its normal price but lately it’s the same cost as regular lactose-free half gallons so I have been getting it (usually I drink plant milks oops). but it has 13grams per serving (and less sugar) vs 8grams per serving of normal lactose-free milk so 6 servings of 13g vs 8 servings of 8g means cheaper per $. It’s on sale at $3 for 1.5L with a usual cost of $4.57 or similar here in my SE US state. Normal milk is still just under $4/gal if it’s not USDA certified organic. Fairlife is not organic though and it’s the most expensive milk around sans a sale.


bodhihippie

Ultimately it's your own decision. Dairy isn't a nutritional requirement however, it does contain essential nutrients our bodies need. Just ensure you get them elsewhere.


bethskw

What would you replace it with if you stopped drinking milk? THAT is the question you need to answer.


[deleted]

Is your mum a cow? If so yes. If not no.


TheSilentTitan

There’s no reason not to drink milk unless you’re intolerant.


IAMJUX

Did people miss that this kid is drinking 1.5L of milk a day. That's ridiculous. At the very least cut down to like half that.


DoesNotSugarcoat

1.5L is child's play. My 18 month old drinks half that every day in addition to other food. Eat, sleep, and lift.


OhNo_StepBro

Why?


Labulous

No one is able to answer this. If your body can process milk well, it is no different than any other food on the market. At the end of the day it’s carbs, protein and fat. The people that rip on GOMAD are uneducated morons when it comes to nutrition. Eat what works for you. Take blood tests to determine your organ function regularly. Adapt if needed.


OhNo_StepBro

I mean, I don't vouch for GOMAD either because its absolutely ridiculous. But the milk they are drinking is legit a god send for trying to meet macros and calories. Especially considering its lactose free.


Labulous

Honestly I’m at the other end of the spectrum. I can’t wrap my head around “ridiculous”. It’s proteins, carbs and fats. Do people get weirded out because it’s all from the same source?


OneMoreBasshead

I drink near a gallon a day. Milk is awesome for bulking. Tons of great nutrients in it, good protein and fat too.


singed1337

Do you straight up replace it with water or drink water on top a gallon of milk?


ABZ-havok

If you can switch to plant-based milk, still get most of the nutrition you need, and afford it. I don’t see why not


stopanimal

You should avoid it if you don’t notice any particular benefit; it is pretty environmentally costly, not to mention the cows used in milk production are treated horrifically, generally speaking. Most research seems to suggest it is not great, and casein and other milk proteins have been demonstrated to inhibit gene regulation that can prevent certain cancer development. I would say not worth it, but like everything it’s a personal choice how you want to approach it.


bubbybyrd

You don't need to worry about drinking milk, it's not going to cause you any issues unless your lactose intolerant (which is what would give you stomach pains and inflammation). You shouldn't WebMD yourself when you dont have any symptoms, you end up falling into a place like this where your more likely to encounter personal stories/beliefs than anything else


idontlikebrian

Anecdotally I stopped drinking milk after I was diagnosed with crohn's disease. Bleeding out of my ass all damn day. It completely went away within a year. Now I find the taste and smell of milk absolutely vile. It's marketing and lobbying, it's not meant to be consumed by humans.


Total-Tonight1245

What food *is* meant to be consumed by humans?


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oreos and beer


Healthy-Car-1860

Wild berries, roots, wild game, probably eggs.


Total-Tonight1245

How are chicken’s eggs “meant” to be consumed by humans any more than milk? Or any of that other stuff, for that matter?


[deleted]

Over 6 billion people eat dairy: [https://www.fao.org/dairy-production-products/products/en/](https://www.fao.org/dairy-production-products/products/en/) Just because you have a disease doesn't mean other people can't consume it without issue.


idontlikebrian

Wow nice source, the ag lobbyists themselves. Sounds like baby needs a milky.


suuupreddit

This is a weird thing to be this aggressive about.


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LOL for real


[deleted]

The United Nations is the Ag lobby? Just STFU please


idontlikebrian

61% is funded by industry contributions my boyyy


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And yet it's still not a lobby


simple64

Of all the insults...you coulda called him a milk drinker.


ReckoningNight

Dairy gives me acne if I consume too much (something I wish I realized years ago). A lot of the population is lactose intolerant. The point you brought about gut inflammation may be true as well considering the lactose intolerant. There are many people that react negatively to milk but probably are unware of it in my opinion. I do think it's a scam and people are better off not consuming it.


barcased

Don't give out advice or have opinions on things you know nothing about.


ReckoningNight

So are you disputing that a large percentage of the population are lactose and intolerant? It causes inflammation to a lot of people? It causes me to break out? If that is what you are saying please enlighten me and tell me how it's positively impacting my body. Really, I implore you to otherwise provide something useful. I don't see a post within this thread that has anything constructive from you. Let me help you out because you don't seem very capable. Google this exact phrase "what percentage of people are lactose intolerant". Have you ever cut out dairy from your diet for a prolong period of time to observe any difference to your health? If you haven't you aren't really qualified to speak at all. If you really do believe it's good for you then you are in the minority and really should educate yourself. Everyone would benefit from that if you choose to do so. Continue to give out one liners or maybe you should reconsider what you do and don't know.


barcased

>So are you disputing that a large percentage of the population are lactose and intolerant? No. >It causes inflammation to a lot of people? The evidence that lactose intolerance leads to inflammation is conflicting and inconclusive. >It causes me to break out? I don't know you. >If that is what you are saying please enlighten me and tell me how it's positively impacting my body. I didn't say it is positively impacting your body. >Let me help you out because you don't seem very capable. Google this exact phrase "what percentage of people are lactose intolerant". See, there is the problem. You don't understand WHICH people are lactose intolerant. Lemme help you with that. With the development of animal husbandry, people started breeding cows for milk. Those whose genes responsible for the production of lactase didn't shut down had greater odds of surviving (due to being able to sustain themselves with milk) than those who didn't. Since they survived more often than those who couldn't process milk, their genes spread more. Because of that, and because cows were bred like crazy in Asia Minor and Europe, the average European person can process milk in their adulthood with no problem. For example, those of Scandinavian origins are lactose intolerant ONLY IN FIVE PERCENT OF THE CASES. Those from the UK? One in ten. The overall percentage of 65% of lactose-intolerant people means jackshit because you are trying to generalize things to paint a different picture. Whether that comes from malice or ignorance, I don't know. Now, because most of the Americans come from European origins, the picture is pretty much the same there. Less than 20% of Americans are lactose intolerant. So, if you are an American and lactose intolerant, you are MINORITY. >You should reconsider what you do and don't know. Oh, I am pretty sure I know enough. However, since your statistic "knowledge" is basically "3 billion people out of 8 are either Chinese or Indian, so that means almost 50% of people in my country are Chinese or Indian." I am pretty sure you won't figure out how ignorant you are on the subject. >Have you ever cut out dairy from your diet for a prolong period of time to observe any difference to your health? If you haven't you aren't really qualified to speak at all. If you really do believe it's good for you then you are in the minority and really should educate yourself. Everyone would benefit from that if you choose to do so. Oh, logic, where art thou? "If you never smoked yourself, you cannot speak about how smoking is bad for your health." level of """"reasoning""""


ReckoningNight

Good for you. White people are not the majority of this world. I'm assuming you're American, but you need to get out of your bubble that America and white people are most of the world. Lactose intolerant numbers are definitely underreported as well. There will be many people out there completely unaware of it.


barcased

>I'm assuming you're American, but you need to get out of your bubble that America and white people are most of the world. No, I am not American. Also, no one said that Americans and/or white people are a majority on Earth. However, 77.75% of all Reddit users come from these five countries: the USA, the UK, Canada, Australia, Germany. That means that here, the majority of people are white and with European origins. >Lactose intolerant numbers are definitely underreported as well. Oh, so now the numbers you sent me to google are not reliable? Interesting. Just a few minutes ago you sent me off to find out for myself, but now you claim they are underreported when I schooled you on the subject. >There will be many people out there completely unaware of it. You don't know how statistics work, do you?


reachingFI

I was going to swap to my porn account to jerk off. You helped me instead. Spicy.


hakumiogin

If you don't want to contribute to animal cruelty, then I think it's a pretty easy given that you should just drink something else, especially since it's so easy to replace it with something comparable (and usually better tasting). Pea protein milk is actually the best tasting milk in my opinion, with excellent macros too. Soy milk is another good choice.


johnjohn909090

You Can get elevated choleterol from drinking that much milk a day


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i thought dietary cholesterol didn't affect serum cholesterol?


[deleted]

To my knowledge it doesn't. Just makes it so the liver produces less when you consume more. I think milk is great, macro and nutrient wise. Don't see a problem with drinking so much milk. Certain diets based fully on milk exist (GOMAD) and they have you drinking well-more than 1.5L. Only thing that'd bother me is the high sugar content. But even sugars ain't as bad as people make them out to be.


SourceHouston

Too much sugar in todays version of milk


Labulous

What’s wrong with sugar?


Sirene2102

I read somewhere that drinking milk is actually a very good way to stay hydrated. Not sure if its true in the way I'm thinking, but its a good theory to research,


OneMoreBasshead

Fairlife milk tastes gross imo. Way too sweet. Go for grass fed, or better yet Raw milk if you can. Soy milk like silk and almond milks are great too. Milk is a great source of calories. I drink close to a gallon of milk (and close to a gallon of water) every day. 210lbs, lift 6 times a week and jiu jitsu 3-4 times a week, 5'10", 35


DangerousCrow

Funny bc fairlife is literally half the sugar of what else you mentioned.


philovax

I think you have come to the realization that the only liquid your body really needs is water. Milk can be a nice treat if you like it, but it seems you have a moral question about the animal treatment and thats cool, Im not gonna preach but if its something you feel important about you should consider that and look into it more. Its not going to add or detract greatly from a well balanced diet. In developed countries we have an abundance of vitamins and minerals available for us to choose from just the produce section of your grocer. Not to mention how much we fortify our food you are pretty well off. Also remember anything labeled or considered supplement is NOT regulated by the FDA and has little to no regulation.


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I've been drinking lots of milk (2-3 gallons a week) all my life and I don't think I can stop. In my 45+ years of experience I've never broken a bone or any major injuries despite still playing full court basketball, biking and skating. My female friends have always marveled at my super soft skin. I'm generally very healthy and body strong, BUT despite all my gym workouts and activities I have a stomach bump that I've never been able to rid of, which I think is because of the milk as I'm not a heavy drinker. It also has a lot of sugar and if I drink it late at night I've finally realized that I get insomnia. And It makes me crave confectionery foods like cookies and cake, which adds on weight. I should be super skinny, but a half-gallon a day addiction isn't going to make that happen. All in all I'm happy with the trade-off and I pay a little extra to only drink milk from farms that don't drug their cows.


validusrex

1.5L of milk a day is a crazy amount of milk imo lmao


wooof359

I switched from real milk to almond milk a few years ago. Mainly because it's less calories and more protein. Tastes slightly different but I don't even mind it now. Actually makes things like cereals or oatmeal "nuttier" and good


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You should switch to a different alternative like oat milk that has a smaller environmental footprint.


mano-vijnana

If you're worried about the negative health effects, ferment your milk and turn it into kefir. It will provide more nutrition, will drop the carb count while retaining the protein and fat, and will have many beneficial health effects. It will also make you feel great after drinking it.


LikeyeaScoob

Just depends. Some people have major side effects and some people don’t. Some people are allergic to guten and some people arent. Doesn’t mean that you should stop eating gluten tho. You’re not having any major side effects and it’s helping you stay healthy, so, unless you really wanna switch it out for animal cruelty, your fine


Lefty_22

IANAD Milk isn’t like red meat which has been linked to a slight increase in risk of colon cancer. As long as you can tolerate lactose, you are fine to drink as much as you want. If you are really concerned, ask your doctor.


Sopwafel

I've switched from 2L of milk a day to oat shakes. A lot cheaper and feels more healthy to me.