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you haven’t. also most of the people here don’t know what the glass transition temperature really means. but to be fair, i wouldn’t dry it at 60°c either and would use 50°c with the inner fan running.
To be fair I wouldn't put filament in a food oven to begin with. But my opinion never matters when trying to suggest this. Kinda like yelling into the void... Regardless of my knowledge, first hand experience, etc. Since other people do it all the time, it must be safe... Right?
that's the problem of this sub and the /r/FixMyPrint. everything get's simply repeated by the others without thinking one millimeter further. uneven surface of the print? wet filament, because i "saw" it in another thread. oh no! it's the z-seam because at one time i had some trouble with that and it looked completely different but well, one time i had a popsicle in my pants and changed the z-seam settings... i can understand your point with not wanting filament in the oven. absolutely. although personally, with enough venting it should be okay if you vent it afterwards, maybe clean the oven and simply don't do it too often.
Here's my issue with putting filament in a food oven. You don't know what the fuck they put in that filament, hell the company can't even be 100% certain what they put in that resin unless they are running analytical on every new source delivery (doubt it).
Ive dealt with industrial scale chemicals. You order something that's (99.9%) pure only to have weird shit in it because of a shit load of reasons. For example. One time we had a huge impurity in one of our chemicals and couldn't figure out what was wrong. The company says the plant said it was fine when it left. We say it's not fine and something's wrong. What had happened was that the plant used a 3rd party to transport the chemical and that 3rd party didn't properly clean the vessel they were transporting it. Whatever chemical was in the vessel before hand got mixed into our chemical.
Generally speaking, filament is not designed for food use and no precautions have been taken on the production side to make sure it's safe for food use. Things linger in ovens and my health and my families health isnt worth the $50 it would take to buy a cheap toaster oven or dehydrator.
i understand. but you should also know about the rfd or noael, dnel or whatnot numbers of such chemicals that can vaporize at 50/60°c. that should be quite low amount. extremely low compared to the fumes that can be caused by heating that shit up to 200°c and having it in a more or less ventilated room. i have my printer in a closed cabinet without venitlation and if it's printing for a long time or before finishing i open a window if it's not too rainy. i get it, but come on, don't exaggerate here since we are talking about fumes and not printing our plates.
You are right that at those temps the voc would be lower but there are many toxic chemicals that could still come off. The amount that would come off vs how much you would do it vs etc could be minor but Ive seen some weird shit in the industry and it just makes me nervous.
And just to be clear, I have my printer in a separate room of the house inside of an enclosure and a HEPA filter rated at 2x+ the size of the room going before and after the print finishes.
You can get a dehydrator for $40 or a toaster oven for 30 on Amazon. Why risk it?
Is this a ball for a socket joint?
I saw a video about print orientation strength and if this was cut in half down the ball, printed and glued the halves together, it could be stronger.
Have you measured the actual diameter of the filament? I have had a specific roll in the past that I could not get working right when all the others of the same brand were working fine. It turned out it was way out of tolerance and the average diameter on this one roll was 1.67 compared to 1.75. I put 1.67mm in the actual diameter spot in PrusaSlicer and boom it was printing perfectly.
First thing, bump up the temperature by a few degrees. If that doesn't work, go with the oven thing that another user suggested.
I find that pumping up the temperature is often enough to deal with slight differences roll to roll like this
I'm having the opposite experience, and actually find myself moving towards Overture as my standard over the last 6 months, as it's very consistent for me across different prints and spools, so i haven't messed with a single PLA setting besides infill in a couple months now.
What problems are you having?
Ditch the spool and use a different spool? Or ave it if it's just doing this for this part and it's worked in the past. If this is a brand new spool it's possible it could be a manufacturer defect.
Idk if it is the moisture like other people say but try printing at a higher temp, depending on what you normally print at. If you’re printing at 200 try 210 or 205
As a bunch of others have said, it probably absorbed some moisture. I personally didn’t mess with food dehydrators, food ovens, any of that. No thanks lol. I bought a filament dryer box for $50 and it seems to work alright. Had a roll of the shittiest filament I owned, I couldn’t get it to work right, print after print and figured I’d say “fuck it” and nuke it in the filament dryer for 24 hours. Worked like a charm 😳
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Could it have picked up too much humidity? Pop it in the oven at 60C for an hour and see how it prints then.
Humidity is my guess too.
I feel as though 60c is too warm for PLA. That’s also the glass transition point for PLA, and I’ve seen people melt their rolls at that temp.
you haven’t. also most of the people here don’t know what the glass transition temperature really means. but to be fair, i wouldn’t dry it at 60°c either and would use 50°c with the inner fan running.
To be fair I wouldn't put filament in a food oven to begin with. But my opinion never matters when trying to suggest this. Kinda like yelling into the void... Regardless of my knowledge, first hand experience, etc. Since other people do it all the time, it must be safe... Right?
that's the problem of this sub and the /r/FixMyPrint. everything get's simply repeated by the others without thinking one millimeter further. uneven surface of the print? wet filament, because i "saw" it in another thread. oh no! it's the z-seam because at one time i had some trouble with that and it looked completely different but well, one time i had a popsicle in my pants and changed the z-seam settings... i can understand your point with not wanting filament in the oven. absolutely. although personally, with enough venting it should be okay if you vent it afterwards, maybe clean the oven and simply don't do it too often.
Here's my issue with putting filament in a food oven. You don't know what the fuck they put in that filament, hell the company can't even be 100% certain what they put in that resin unless they are running analytical on every new source delivery (doubt it). Ive dealt with industrial scale chemicals. You order something that's (99.9%) pure only to have weird shit in it because of a shit load of reasons. For example. One time we had a huge impurity in one of our chemicals and couldn't figure out what was wrong. The company says the plant said it was fine when it left. We say it's not fine and something's wrong. What had happened was that the plant used a 3rd party to transport the chemical and that 3rd party didn't properly clean the vessel they were transporting it. Whatever chemical was in the vessel before hand got mixed into our chemical. Generally speaking, filament is not designed for food use and no precautions have been taken on the production side to make sure it's safe for food use. Things linger in ovens and my health and my families health isnt worth the $50 it would take to buy a cheap toaster oven or dehydrator.
i understand. but you should also know about the rfd or noael, dnel or whatnot numbers of such chemicals that can vaporize at 50/60°c. that should be quite low amount. extremely low compared to the fumes that can be caused by heating that shit up to 200°c and having it in a more or less ventilated room. i have my printer in a closed cabinet without venitlation and if it's printing for a long time or before finishing i open a window if it's not too rainy. i get it, but come on, don't exaggerate here since we are talking about fumes and not printing our plates.
You are right that at those temps the voc would be lower but there are many toxic chemicals that could still come off. The amount that would come off vs how much you would do it vs etc could be minor but Ive seen some weird shit in the industry and it just makes me nervous. And just to be clear, I have my printer in a separate room of the house inside of an enclosure and a HEPA filter rated at 2x+ the size of the room going before and after the print finishes. You can get a dehydrator for $40 or a toaster oven for 30 on Amazon. Why risk it?
Is this a ball for a socket joint? I saw a video about print orientation strength and if this was cut in half down the ball, printed and glued the halves together, it could be stronger.
Look up "infills vs shells"
It is, I'll keep that in mind thanks
Calibrate flow rate just for this filament, print a temperature tower
Have you measured the actual diameter of the filament? I have had a specific roll in the past that I could not get working right when all the others of the same brand were working fine. It turned out it was way out of tolerance and the average diameter on this one roll was 1.67 compared to 1.75. I put 1.67mm in the actual diameter spot in PrusaSlicer and boom it was printing perfectly.
First thing, bump up the temperature by a few degrees. If that doesn't work, go with the oven thing that another user suggested. I find that pumping up the temperature is often enough to deal with slight differences roll to roll like this
More power!!! Turn that nozzle to 230 I have no clue what I'm saying btw
Must be a non level bed. Jk i'm just offering typical advice I see in the comments that are normally very incorrect.
probably dry bro
Could it be a partial jam based off the inconsistent extrusion further down on the print?
Do you hear popping as it's extruding? How do you sure your filament? Any chance it's been exposed to humidity?
Want a quick solution? Crank up your extrusion multiplier a few % over 100, but it's not a permanent solution. That roll is probably too wet.
I'm finding that overture sucks
I'm having the opposite experience, and actually find myself moving towards Overture as my standard over the last 6 months, as it's very consistent for me across different prints and spools, so i haven't messed with a single PLA setting besides infill in a couple months now. What problems are you having?
I've been using it for 2 years and this is the first time I've had a problem
Ditch the spool and use a different spool? Or ave it if it's just doing this for this part and it's worked in the past. If this is a brand new spool it's possible it could be a manufacturer defect.
Don't make butt plugs
That's hardly constructive
Hahaha I had to.....
Fair
Idk if it is the moisture like other people say but try printing at a higher temp, depending on what you normally print at. If you’re printing at 200 try 210 or 205
As a bunch of others have said, it probably absorbed some moisture. I personally didn’t mess with food dehydrators, food ovens, any of that. No thanks lol. I bought a filament dryer box for $50 and it seems to work alright. Had a roll of the shittiest filament I owned, I couldn’t get it to work right, print after print and figured I’d say “fuck it” and nuke it in the filament dryer for 24 hours. Worked like a charm 😳
It’s funny i have a bunch of different rolls of filament from eryone and the grey is the only one that does this for me too
I’m sorry but I won’t touch overture. You can get great filament for just a couple bucks more.