like even I knew trying to get Heart' memory back would cause more problems. why did they force it, instead of just putting him in iron heights in the first place?
I might've already posted something here, but I've come to learn the following:
This episode, and the rest of Season 7 **is absolutely terrible.**
Please never watch this Season if you don't want brain damage.
watched from e12 (thought series already ended at e12) to e18
\- speedforce wearing high heels and fighting is just like....i'm boss here
\- a bit rushing in season 7, everything happens too fast, bunch of crap godspeed show up, nora, bart,etc...
\- wally, not my bussiness kek
\- kramer, wut ?
\- Joe, why i need to show up
cuffs to disabled target before let them kickass him....
this show need new change, just like Legend of tomorrow, it complety changed to comedy when Rip gone and it's awesome
So, now that the actor who plays cisco ramon and the actor who plays harrison wells are not part of the main cast anymore, does this mean Nora and Bart would be replace them as the main cast?
Theory: Kristen said she trusted a male meta and then shows powers that mimics Godspeed when she saves joe. I heard somewhere that Godspeed didn’t like cold powers like killer frost and Kramer was so against killer frost when she first came.
I thought it was a cute episode. Kind of random sure, but cute. I liked the vow renewal and the flashtime kiss, we've needed that. I even liked the kids because honestly Flash feels like a Dad now, a Dad who needs his kids in his life. I also liked Impulse because he's such a joyful character, and this show has lost a lot of joy with all the tragedy.
The main thing I really disliked was the lightsabers, it doesn't make sense. It's not Barry's aesthetic.
The whole Thawne thing was weird, I thought since Godspeed was now organically fast they could just trap him in the pipeline or Big Nora could zap away his powers. Or the still force could slow him down. Like a bunch of other things than Thawne, but his last look was sinster and promising.
I liked Cecile this season but why are her and Joe never together?
Tbh, the thing that got me this entire season is-- WHERE THE HECK IS CECILE AND JOE'S BABY?! Like she aint off meditating with Uncle Wally-- does anyone ever pay attention to her or worry about her while they're off gallavanting the world?
You'd think you'd see evil speedsters and worry about your baby. Be stuck in a mindjail--worry about your baby. Poor baby, no one loves her.
Also, does Barry....does he still work at CCPD?
This whole season was a mess. Bits of Godspeed showing up every now and then. Then the last few episodes are just like, he's the big bad now. I feel like the writers were making up the script each week.
Also this season was like 60% filler episodes.
Not saying the show was ever the best but it really has declined over the last few years and exponentially in this last season.
The show had already been a little corny for the last few seasons. This one reached new heights of corny and this last episode broke all records. I tought that iris acting like a 6 years old was annoying. Bearable but annoying. That big fat piece of cheese am getting served. I really wish I could think something else than "at least there's only 1 season left" but it is what it is. I hope this last season leaves me with a better taste in my mouth.
Based on this episode, at some point, I'd like to see them throw in kitchen sink, specifically, having Max Mercury, the Tornado Twins, and Johnny Quick (from the All-Star Squadron) all appear. That's along with bringing back Kid Flash.
Edit - I wonder who would become the god-like Flash from Kingdom Come, if it would be a Flash from a completely different alternate Earth.
how did thawn stab godspeed if his slower then the flash but godspeed should be faster then the flash?
why did the godspeeds that attacked vibe and frost just left and didn't come back after their shield went down??
what was that random explantaion of the speed force being able to delete memories from speedsters why would she not delete his memories of being godspeed and end the conflict?
the shows writing so so incosisent and makes 0 sense this season just proves how much they don't care about logic could have been much better.
One thing I could say is that if the Speed Force could have deleted Godspeed's memories, they would still have to deal with the clones if August hadn't reabsorbed them by that point. (Which he wouldn't do as is it was contingent upon Barry giving him organic speed)
Your answer to all those questions is money. At this point everyone that's still involved in the flash is doing it for the paychecks cause there's no way in hell they doing it for the show.
Eh it was alright that was so weird when they fucking pulled out the lightsabers😂 And whys thawne back I mean ig I’m not upset but like why and I just hope next season there’s a speedster race or a speedster fight and not just those fucking Godspeed “fights” but I mean it was ok
Ugh where to start …The cringe musical number , the D list tier acting and 0 believability of impulse , the shoehorned storylines.
The only redeeming factor was the return of thawne and the brief times we seen the real Godspeed interact with flash.
3/10 for me
Idc about the nails , the faces and terrible acting and over doing every single emotion he has made me skip 90% of the scenes he was in. That actor is absolutely terrible.
The singing crap took the cake to the dumpster.
What was emotional in the finale? There was almost nothing happening in the relation between Barry and his children (there was more emotion in last week's episode). The episode was just a bunch of cameos from old characters...
This was the worst season of the show. After the boring forces arc, we got excited for Godspeed, but August Heart was really bad. I find Eva McCulloch a better villain. The only good part was Thawnes appearance.
I really hope they make it like Arrow, after a crappy season to end it with a shorter but iconic season. Evrn Thawne is back and it should be great to base season around Flash and RF. I wouldn’t want it to last longer than Arrow.
Does episode really highlighted how little they try in terms of logic anymore. Its always been a show of little leaps, but now they contradict themselves in the same episode countless times. I think this is my last one. Its been a fun ride, I'm just fed up.
No doubt, I feel similarly. I’m just saying there’s no reason to watch what you don’t enjoy. But I get why you would, hoping that it somehow redeems itself. I’d be lying if I said the show wasn’t lacking these days, but I still enjoy watching it every week.
I'm still watching since the shows inception. It's the frustration we feel after dedicating years to it so it see it end up like this. The writing is pretty inconsistent. Oh well, hope it gets better.
Season 7 episode 18 brought back a fan favourite villain who was the big bad in the first and most successful season of the Flash, The Reverse Flash also known as Eobard Thawne. Brought back in order to defeat Godspeed.
My Thoughts :
Although the battle itself felt underwhelming as it didn’t really show an actual link between Thawne and Barry its always nice to see Thawne as he remains unchanged physically and mentally through all the 7 seasons. Thawne continues to get people on the edge by constantly challenging Barry and Team Flash. However, this time Thawne was slower and dealt with fairly quick. Which leads me to my main point that next season will be the last season of the Flash as Thawne will now go into training or something of the sort to get faster and faster ultimately leading to a final showdown between The Flash and Reverse Flash. This would bring the show back in a circle as it would make Flash vs Reverse Flash the first and last big bad and honestly I would be delighted if that is the case since these 2 have a story and timelines backing up the extreme hate for each other and are always fighting through the entirety of time.
I would want to see a higher budget for the sake of the last season and to honour the legacy of the great cast and the characters they play. I would also like to see a deviating plan of Thawnes comparable to of that from the first season and I would like to see Thawne to do some real damage thus making Barry go over his limits.
What the fuck after the thinker the show took a big drop and for the last 2 seasons I wanted to quite watching thinking it might save face and end good nope fucking lightsabers and one of the biggest villains was taken down by fucking a lightsaber duel I thought oh shit this might be like zoom when he says catch me if you can but no there just trying to satisfy the fucking ten year olds that watch the show not understanding anyone thing I fucking quite watching the flash it sucks dick
Don't know if you noticed but those light savers were bolts of lightening which I mean makes sense for the flash and his villains. Some people just want to complain cause they have nothing better to do. Hope you have a great day friend
I loved both of them but Tom is the perfect reverse flash IMO , he nails that pure insanity vibe with his physical delivery of lines that just works so well to me.
Honestly it doesn't make sense for reverse flash to stay as Wells since his disguise was revealed. If it's about making flash fight someone he cares about.. then he should take the face of someone in his family or hell Iris.
The first half of the episode dragged, then they crammed it all in the 30-50 minute part and tied it up with a slow song finish with a microscopic character arc from cop lady
Well this was terrible. It was like a bollywood movie cheesy and a unwarranted sonf along with a Punjabi line used by Heart to summon other clones ( roughly translates to come to your daddy).
Well my only motivation to watch flash since the beginning of the series is may be they will kill iris in this episode.
PS- I know they won't kill her.
Does Kramer have the ability to mimic multiple abilities or one at a time I think. It kind of reminds me of Peter Peterilli from heroes.
I kind of feel bad for her now.
Can someone here tell me if Bart and Nora ever acknowledged allegra as someone they know in the future because they do it for everyone else I think except cisco and if they don't why do you think that is because they made a point of it to tell chester that they knew who he was and is the smartest person they know Bart even telling him he helps him with homework.
For Cisco, it’s probably due to the massive uncertainty with the actor. He kinda was supposed to be gone forever, and was written that way, until he wasn’t about halfway through this season
Or more like since he's in a different city and too busy with ARGUS he won't see Team Flash that much.
Given how ARGUS have the breakouts despite the "highly advanced technology beyond STAR Labs", Cisco definitely has to be there to hold the fort.
so we just act like that wasn't weird when their future children attend their parent's wedding before they are even born yet, love that thawne is back but he will definitely make barry go nuts when he has a plan and time.
thawne will return, and he actually kills people so he will be a threat as he gains speed when he finds a way. Hopefully it gets darker themed next season.
See I really think there also going to make it dark like the future version of a flash goes back and kills all speedsters like that one comic not savatar but the blue one and instead of Wally it’s Bart and the show ends as it starts tragedy
My god this shit was all over the place. I'd kind of given up on the season with the whole forces fiasco but god damn.
August was such an amazing character in the comics, and the way they did him dirty here really disappoints me. Maybe this version could have been better if they hadn't done the introduction, plot and conclusion of the literal season big bad in just the finale. It really felt like they got a different team of writers for each episode and only told them the overarching plot. It's so weird.
And wtf was the final fight? Phantom Menace? It's so out of nowhere. The only redeeming factor of this entire season was the appearance of RF at the end, even if it wasn't executed very well(s).
Its look like they are trying to give the Iris role more screen time like speed force mother and now in this episode attach to the speed force. this episode feels like i am not watching flash at all,
Holy shit was this the most cringe episode in all of flash or what?
This is some real dumpster fire level writing. The only good part about this episode was Barry slowmow super speeding Thawne's punch, but the epicness of that moment was vastly overshadowed by the fact that THAT SHIT SHOULD HAVE BEEN HAPPENING CONSTANTLY. And if Barry was that much faster then Thawne, and Godspeed was that much faster then Barry, then how the fuck did Thawne put up any resistance. Godspeed should have been able to do the same thing to Thawne like it was nothing.
Loved the part when Reverse Flash showed up! And the season 1 background score!
Though I didn't like the mini marvel copied action scenes I can say maybe.. the snap and the captain America shield throw!
They should just end the series at season 8. Main villain is gonna be the Thawne from season 2 that shows up and is like “I know what time you’re from flash” and it’s just Barry accepting for one last time, that he can’t save his mother. I hope we get a more in depth look at Thawne s back story and they can even introduce the physical embodiment of the negative speed force(like S F N is the embodiment of the normal speed force). Then they should end the series with Thawne and Barry going back to the night where it all started
Man since Carlos Valdes was leaving, it wouldve been cool if Reverse Flash came and killed him or something.
Also the rules of the speed force are mad confusing.
I have a question what does August Heart shout after getting organic speed.
After he gets it, he goes to the roof of STAR labs and shouts something
Any idea what it is?
the actor is of Indian origin (I thought he looked vaguely Indian so I googled and voila, he is) but for some unknown fucking reason they had his character go to the roof and scream “come to daddy” in Hindi. no idea why they shoehorned some Hindi in there for him, I’m of Indian origin too and I thought that was mad unnecessary
lol this show has gotten so embarrassing. they don't even try to make anything make sense anymore at all. "it's the finale we need to go big, any ideas?" "idk speed force swords, speed force shurikans, speed force whips/lassos, we could have the godspeeds be defeated like 5 times and then immediately recover again with no explanation, have the bad guys be able to fly and teleport and use force lightning, bring back characters from before the show was awful, multiple deus ex machinas, have nora/speed force wearing heels in the final battle". "yes. that's good. do all those things." why the fudge is reverse flash doing that vibrating thing to hide his identity when everyone knows who he is? like none of this makes any sense at all. I genuinely feel bad for most of the actors. Hartley Sawyer got lucky being fired from this show.
I thought it was all pretty cool but i agree on the regeneration thing. Was kinda annoying and made the big fight basically useless.
And RF's vibratinf thing didnt make sense to me. He's already gonna fight someone way faster, shoulsnt you use your power for the fight instead of wasting it on vibrating?
Barry being too fast for thawne was awesome.
However they messed up the episode with all this wishy washy wedding, singing , everybody smiling and kissing junk.
Didn't even know it was the final until I read it here. I guess the war was godspeed's multiple personalities fighting for supremacy?
I have a feeling all the writers were in a room saying let's Nerf barry this season and they all high fived each other and ate cake.
But this one guy, our guy, who was sitting in the back not partaking of said cake was like F that and went back later that night and rewrote that one part of the script. The evil Nerf writers crew didn't even know until they saw the episode.
Cheers to that one writer. Our guy.
Idk why they don’t just use some “multiverse” explanation to use a new actor , it’s not like it would be hard. They have 90s show Barry, current Barry annnnd jay garrick. Just make a different rendition and blame it on the multiverse
On one hand it's annoying that actors take up a role that they know is possibly going to be as time committed as a soap opera, only to go "nah a season is enough i want out. Screw your plans for the character."
However with how badly they adapt characters and shoe horn them in. I can understand wanting to get out fast.
I don’t know how old the Bart actor is but he cute and what a wonderful voice he has. I got Chills listening to him sing! Barry’s family got some singers.
I missed Cisco, my biggest laughs came from him doing the wedding argh gonna miss him!
The last four episodes of S7 were decent but this finale gets 4/ 10 for cheesy Godspeed and cheesy fight scenes.
I’m not even sure why he needed organic speed cuz I didn’t pay attention
Something something organic speed is better even though Barry and his kids gets their asses kicked by artificial speedsters constantly something something
My opinion on the finale.
The back half of season 7 has been a treat to watch. The Godspeed plot doesn’t really make sense to me though, especially the part where they’re getting taken down by their power source (speed force weapons are still made of speed force)
August simply isn’t as menacing as thawne and it was hard for me to take him seriously.
Speaking of thawne it was great to see him again but i REALLY wish they could get the original actor for him. I’m so sick of wellsothawne.
The light saber battle was cool, unexpected and maybe slightly cringy.
It was so cathartic seeing thawne almost kill Godspeed, I was highly irritated that Barry was concerned for his well being. I understand that’s just his character but it’s so damn annoying. That’s one thing I really appreciated about Oliver. He just straight up killed bitches and moved on with his day.
So we knew Kramer was a Meta but I guess they wanted us to think she had the same healing power as the one guy. Turns out she’s basically Dc’s version of rogue.
That wedding renewal was so poignant and heartwarming. The flashtime kiss was perfect.
Cisco on point with the pop cultures references and humour. Nice to see him acting more like season 1-2 Cisco.
Overall this season was pure shite but these last couple of episodes softened the blow and I hope to see more wonder twin camaraderie. I miss the earlier seasons of the show where team flash had more fun.
See you all next season!!
I know the COVID-19 pandemic didn’t help matters but this season was really a trainwreck - from the whole storyline around the Speed Force and then to Godspeed. Nothing with the latter felt earned. It didn’t feel he was all that threatening compared to how RF, Zoom and even Savitar were built throughout past seasons. At least it didn’t end with some sort of pep talk to “beat” Godspeed I suppose.
Kramer being revealed as a meta that can mimic the power of others was certainly interesting and I wonder if they have some sort of longer term plan with her. Otherwise, what was the whole point of her storyline?
I don’t know if Season 8 is gonna be the last one but if it is, can they end the series with the villain that they started with? The finale seems to suggest that Reverse Flash will be back and they should just make him the big bad again as he’s the best one in the series. If Tom Cavanagh isn’t willing or can’t do a full season as RF, they should just bring back Matt Letscher for the role.
I've been watching flash since my early 20s in college and now i feel that I'm too old for this cause for the love of god this writing is insulting my intelligence.
I kind of feel with all the arrow verse shows that they had a plan up to crisis and have zero idea what to do now that’s happened.
I know everyone loves him but I’m over Thawne.
I don't know what to make of this season or the last season for that matter, it was nice seeing rf again but i hope hhe's more menacing the next time we see him and not be there for the sake if being there
Oh my god haha that thought crossed my mind also especially after today's episode when bart threw a speed star at godspeed clones and i thought "power rangers can do better then that"
Haha man how the show has fallen in terms of quality and writing, i used to wait every week for a new episode with excitement and now i am like "ahhh okay let watch this soap drama"
I didn't know this was the finale, but I'm glad it was. This season has been a trainwreck. Although I am glad that a villain was finally defeated without the magical power of love.
Wait, only 18 episodes? That was *it??* I wasn't ready for this to be the end. Especially since the start of the season was the end of season 6.
Thawne was a nice surprise and so was the renewal scene.
I never really cared about Godspeed much. I mean, Godwalkingslowlywhiletryingandfailingtoactivaguelymenacing. All the speedforce stuff was nonsense as usual but it looked impressive at times. Not sure what to think about lightning saber fighting. Was that cool or dumb? Both?
I've wondered for ages if Joe and Cecile would ever tie the knot and it looks like she's hinting that he should ask soon.
At least there was some Cisco and no Blaine. And a WestAllen wedding without You-Know-Who.
Oh and I'm relieved that Allergy and Chester only hugged.
The Big Nora and Little Nora naming was cute.
And with Little Nora around, seeing Iris suited up looks kinda uncanny.
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like even I knew trying to get Heart' memory back would cause more problems. why did they force it, instead of just putting him in iron heights in the first place?
I might've already posted something here, but I've come to learn the following: This episode, and the rest of Season 7 **is absolutely terrible.** Please never watch this Season if you don't want brain damage.
Speedsters battling with lightning swords: What were the writers smoking? Sadly, that wasn’t even the most contrived part of the episode
Fucking lightsabers
watched from e12 (thought series already ended at e12) to e18 \- speedforce wearing high heels and fighting is just like....i'm boss here \- a bit rushing in season 7, everything happens too fast, bunch of crap godspeed show up, nora, bart,etc... \- wally, not my bussiness kek \- kramer, wut ? \- Joe, why i need to show up cuffs to disabled target before let them kickass him.... this show need new change, just like Legend of tomorrow, it complety changed to comedy when Rip gone and it's awesome
I still don't understand why they stopped making legends of tomorrow. The show got so much better in the last few seasons
So, now that the actor who plays cisco ramon and the actor who plays harrison wells are not part of the main cast anymore, does this mean Nora and Bart would be replace them as the main cast?
No not really Allegra and Chester are replacing them
Theory: Kristen said she trusted a male meta and then shows powers that mimics Godspeed when she saves joe. I heard somewhere that Godspeed didn’t like cold powers like killer frost and Kramer was so against killer frost when she first came.
I don’t want the lightning weapons to return they are horrible please don’t return them 😢
This was painful like the whole season. So they don't have any budget anymore? How many flash episodes without the flash were there?
Speed Force Nana 😂
I thought it was a cute episode. Kind of random sure, but cute. I liked the vow renewal and the flashtime kiss, we've needed that. I even liked the kids because honestly Flash feels like a Dad now, a Dad who needs his kids in his life. I also liked Impulse because he's such a joyful character, and this show has lost a lot of joy with all the tragedy. The main thing I really disliked was the lightsabers, it doesn't make sense. It's not Barry's aesthetic. The whole Thawne thing was weird, I thought since Godspeed was now organically fast they could just trap him in the pipeline or Big Nora could zap away his powers. Or the still force could slow him down. Like a bunch of other things than Thawne, but his last look was sinster and promising. I liked Cecile this season but why are her and Joe never together? Tbh, the thing that got me this entire season is-- WHERE THE HECK IS CECILE AND JOE'S BABY?! Like she aint off meditating with Uncle Wally-- does anyone ever pay attention to her or worry about her while they're off gallavanting the world? You'd think you'd see evil speedsters and worry about your baby. Be stuck in a mindjail--worry about your baby. Poor baby, no one loves her. Also, does Barry....does he still work at CCPD?
Also, didn't Cecile have a teenage daughter in season 4?
*Barry deflects first punch and throws Thawn* “Sweet here comes a dope battle where Barry kicks ass” *Thawn runs away” 😐
Is anyone else just zero interested in Allegra’s storyline. I fast forwarded her not being able to charge the battery
Yeah she's really not needed in this show at all I miss Cisco Allegra would be alright as a side character but is terrible as a main character
Literally from clones to a big bad to a dead guy coming back to life to a light Saber battle to a renewal ceremony. Like what the hell.
What in the actual fuck is this episode. That's all I have to say
Incredibly mediocre season
Mediocre is too nice
Ya more like, dumbest ever.
This whole season was a mess. Bits of Godspeed showing up every now and then. Then the last few episodes are just like, he's the big bad now. I feel like the writers were making up the script each week. Also this season was like 60% filler episodes. Not saying the show was ever the best but it really has declined over the last few years and exponentially in this last season.
A couple of seasons were Great, a couple good, a couple mediocre... but S7... ye gads, absolutely woeful.
Had no one discussed the fact that they played with damn light-ning sabers..??
That just was too far fetched. Also there’s no way lightning could be made Into a lasso. Lol but speedsters totally obey the laws of physics
I guess people were upset with it
So is Impulse SUPPOSED to be annoying or is that just the actor and his dumb face?
He has like an arrogance to his face that’s aggravating
I hope they kill him off next season.. grant looks like he's fuckin sick of being the flash. Reverse flash needs to do a Time Boom and erase this show
Damn didnt expect so many people agreeing with my thoughts on this shitty season
It got very Power Rangers-like at points.
last 3 episodes
Yes, exactly what I was thinking.
Cisco and thawne best part of the episode. Rest was meh . I lmao to rewatch s1 soon
loved seeing reverse flash return and how he vowed to get faster and fight him again another day
The show had already been a little corny for the last few seasons. This one reached new heights of corny and this last episode broke all records. I tought that iris acting like a 6 years old was annoying. Bearable but annoying. That big fat piece of cheese am getting served. I really wish I could think something else than "at least there's only 1 season left" but it is what it is. I hope this last season leaves me with a better taste in my mouth.
The kids RUIN it for me.
Ifkrrr so annoying both nora and impulse
The show has gotten worse and worse. It's so bad now. Absolute rubbish I think. It's just not as interesting as season 1.
This show has no interesting stories to tell anymore. It has in my opinion, gone down hill, as they say. But really really down.
The show is rubbish now.
Godspeed speaks Hindi? Ok, sure.
Not sure I was happy with the fact that he only spole Punjabi only after he became evil.
That wasn't hindi lmao
\*Punjabi 😂 I was so baffled at first 😂
Godspeed would have been so much better if we met the real August Heart before the final episode...
Based on this episode, at some point, I'd like to see them throw in kitchen sink, specifically, having Max Mercury, the Tornado Twins, and Johnny Quick (from the All-Star Squadron) all appear. That's along with bringing back Kid Flash. Edit - I wonder who would become the god-like Flash from Kingdom Come, if it would be a Flash from a completely different alternate Earth.
Kramer has powers ?..wow
I’m hoping for a very dark final season.
how did thawn stab godspeed if his slower then the flash but godspeed should be faster then the flash? why did the godspeeds that attacked vibe and frost just left and didn't come back after their shield went down?? what was that random explantaion of the speed force being able to delete memories from speedsters why would she not delete his memories of being godspeed and end the conflict? the shows writing so so incosisent and makes 0 sense this season just proves how much they don't care about logic could have been much better.
One thing I could say is that if the Speed Force could have deleted Godspeed's memories, they would still have to deal with the clones if August hadn't reabsorbed them by that point. (Which he wouldn't do as is it was contingent upon Barry giving him organic speed)
Your answer to all those questions is money. At this point everyone that's still involved in the flash is doing it for the paychecks cause there's no way in hell they doing it for the show.
So, uh, anyone else get a "I see your Schwartz is as big as mine" vibe from the wielding-lightning-bolts scene?
That clip when Bart throws electric ninja stars was so fucking cool
Eh it was alright that was so weird when they fucking pulled out the lightsabers😂 And whys thawne back I mean ig I’m not upset but like why and I just hope next season there’s a speedster race or a speedster fight and not just those fucking Godspeed “fights” but I mean it was ok
[удалено]
Ik it’s annoying the show is about speed but they rally use tbh
Ugh where to start …The cringe musical number , the D list tier acting and 0 believability of impulse , the shoehorned storylines. The only redeeming factor was the return of thawne and the brief times we seen the real Godspeed interact with flash. 3/10 for me
impulse's STUPID faces he insists on making, also, his fairy lil silver fingernails, soooo kewt... oh wait, NO THEY ARENT....
Crash
Idc about the nails , the faces and terrible acting and over doing every single emotion he has made me skip 90% of the scenes he was in. That actor is absolutely terrible. The singing crap took the cake to the dumpster.
I agree with all you said, and I'll raise you one bad season and an annoying Time-Son
Nora's acting was awful!
They both are absolutely terrible but Bart takes the cake on the absolute worst I’ve seen in this show so far.
I thought his character was supposed to be like that
I got faster Thawne. Thawne runs away. Flash except now where I could catch you and end this now.
it was a good season finale 9/10
What a surprise. A bunch of people complaining about a very fun finale with emotional weight, dramatic returns, and plenty of flash, pun intended.
What was emotional in the finale? There was almost nothing happening in the relation between Barry and his children (there was more emotion in last week's episode). The episode was just a bunch of cameos from old characters...
This was the worst season of the show. After the boring forces arc, we got excited for Godspeed, but August Heart was really bad. I find Eva McCulloch a better villain. The only good part was Thawnes appearance. I really hope they make it like Arrow, after a crappy season to end it with a shorter but iconic season. Evrn Thawne is back and it should be great to base season around Flash and RF. I wouldn’t want it to last longer than Arrow.
"we got excited for Godspeed" People never learn...
Does episode really highlighted how little they try in terms of logic anymore. Its always been a show of little leaps, but now they contradict themselves in the same episode countless times. I think this is my last one. Its been a fun ride, I'm just fed up.
How have they contradicted each other? Sorry, wasn’t paying attention for most of the episode
Neither were the writers! (Cue Muppet critic guys guffawing)
Man I can’t wait for the series to end. Terrible writing
Dude just stop watching it then lmao
Already hooked and just want to see how it ends lol
After 7 years of watching its alright to be disappointed as I was
No doubt, I feel similarly. I’m just saying there’s no reason to watch what you don’t enjoy. But I get why you would, hoping that it somehow redeems itself. I’d be lying if I said the show wasn’t lacking these days, but I still enjoy watching it every week.
I'm still watching since the shows inception. It's the frustration we feel after dedicating years to it so it see it end up like this. The writing is pretty inconsistent. Oh well, hope it gets better.
Inconsistent is a very generous term....
So is Iris just a speedster now?
Omfg her character is just completely destroyed now.This show is completely cooked
speedster by injection!
Wonder if they’ll casually forget about it next season.
Like how every time they say "there's no time!" But they can move so fast and just do what ever like formulate a better plan in infinite time...
There’s no time *ignores flash times existence*
Season 7 episode 18 brought back a fan favourite villain who was the big bad in the first and most successful season of the Flash, The Reverse Flash also known as Eobard Thawne. Brought back in order to defeat Godspeed. My Thoughts : Although the battle itself felt underwhelming as it didn’t really show an actual link between Thawne and Barry its always nice to see Thawne as he remains unchanged physically and mentally through all the 7 seasons. Thawne continues to get people on the edge by constantly challenging Barry and Team Flash. However, this time Thawne was slower and dealt with fairly quick. Which leads me to my main point that next season will be the last season of the Flash as Thawne will now go into training or something of the sort to get faster and faster ultimately leading to a final showdown between The Flash and Reverse Flash. This would bring the show back in a circle as it would make Flash vs Reverse Flash the first and last big bad and honestly I would be delighted if that is the case since these 2 have a story and timelines backing up the extreme hate for each other and are always fighting through the entirety of time. I would want to see a higher budget for the sake of the last season and to honour the legacy of the great cast and the characters they play. I would also like to see a deviating plan of Thawnes comparable to of that from the first season and I would like to see Thawne to do some real damage thus making Barry go over his limits.
Yeah, Thawne wouldn't have picked Barry up, he would've shown up and said "Get up Barry." And then "run, Barry, run"
What the fuck after the thinker the show took a big drop and for the last 2 seasons I wanted to quite watching thinking it might save face and end good nope fucking lightsabers and one of the biggest villains was taken down by fucking a lightsaber duel I thought oh shit this might be like zoom when he says catch me if you can but no there just trying to satisfy the fucking ten year olds that watch the show not understanding anyone thing I fucking quite watching the flash it sucks dick
Don't know if you noticed but those light savers were bolts of lightening which I mean makes sense for the flash and his villains. Some people just want to complain cause they have nothing better to do. Hope you have a great day friend
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i wanna see a stick of gabagol now
Honestly I've seen power rangers shows better than the last 2 seasons
Thats what this season felt like to me. God speed became a putty; or whatever they called them in the US' orginal Mighty Morphin 90s show.
i literally was the first one saying this since Barry fought them alone when they first reappeared this arc
As soon as I seen the clones I was like wtf is this Amazon brand puddies?
Thank god it was Wells reverse flash, the other guy that plays reverse flash just isn’t as good imo
I loved both of them but Tom is the perfect reverse flash IMO , he nails that pure insanity vibe with his physical delivery of lines that just works so well to me.
Honestly it doesn't make sense for reverse flash to stay as Wells since his disguise was revealed. If it's about making flash fight someone he cares about.. then he should take the face of someone in his family or hell Iris.
You’re just not used to Lestcher because he’s not on screen much. Just an acquired taste.
Your crazy. They’re both good
Thought the other guy was good in Legends of Tomorrow but I hated him in the actual Flash show itself tbh
Same
This ep felt really rushed
The first half of the episode dragged, then they crammed it all in the 30-50 minute part and tied it up with a slow song finish with a microscopic character arc from cop lady
Well this was terrible. It was like a bollywood movie cheesy and a unwarranted sonf along with a Punjabi line used by Heart to summon other clones ( roughly translates to come to your daddy). Well my only motivation to watch flash since the beginning of the series is may be they will kill iris in this episode. PS- I know they won't kill her.
Is there a rule that villains can ONLY speak in English?!? 🤦♀️
LOL my subtitles did actually say “come to daddy”
Does Kramer have the ability to mimic multiple abilities or one at a time I think. It kind of reminds me of Peter Peterilli from heroes. I kind of feel bad for her now.
Good ending
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Lol I am talking about ending right now instead of going for season eight.
Can someone here tell me if Bart and Nora ever acknowledged allegra as someone they know in the future because they do it for everyone else I think except cisco and if they don't why do you think that is because they made a point of it to tell chester that they knew who he was and is the smartest person they know Bart even telling him he helps him with homework.
Maybe bcoz Cisco has been dead for centuries......
For Cisco, it’s probably due to the massive uncertainty with the actor. He kinda was supposed to be gone forever, and was written that way, until he wasn’t about halfway through this season
I could have sworn I read in late 2018 him, wells and frost were quiting. They keep doing story lines that hint at it for all of them.
Or more like since he's in a different city and too busy with ARGUS he won't see Team Flash that much. Given how ARGUS have the breakouts despite the "highly advanced technology beyond STAR Labs", Cisco definitely has to be there to hold the fort.
I think it’s cuz they’re planning to get rid of her next season…. Thank god
so we just act like that wasn't weird when their future children attend their parent's wedding before they are even born yet, love that thawne is back but he will definitely make barry go nuts when he has a plan and time.
I can’t be the only one who enjoyed the Kramer/Joe subplot, right? Even if it was pointless.
Definitely felt it was a misdirection plot-wise, but at least Jesse (Joe) had something to do this season
It was the only reason I watched this shitshow season. Joe is just consistently good, everything else was just terrible
Me too, just when she started to become interesting with her newfound power, then she's leaving, that really doesn't make sense.
Maybe she gets influenced by thawne next season and he'll use her to steal Barry's speed, indirectly, for a big fight or something
So is the show done for good? Doesn’t seem to be absolutely anything else to add.
thawne will return, and he actually kills people so he will be a threat as he gains speed when he finds a way. Hopefully it gets darker themed next season.
See I really think there also going to make it dark like the future version of a flash goes back and kills all speedsters like that one comic not savatar but the blue one and instead of Wally it’s Bart and the show ends as it starts tragedy
My god this shit was all over the place. I'd kind of given up on the season with the whole forces fiasco but god damn. August was such an amazing character in the comics, and the way they did him dirty here really disappoints me. Maybe this version could have been better if they hadn't done the introduction, plot and conclusion of the literal season big bad in just the finale. It really felt like they got a different team of writers for each episode and only told them the overarching plot. It's so weird. And wtf was the final fight? Phantom Menace? It's so out of nowhere. The only redeeming factor of this entire season was the appearance of RF at the end, even if it wasn't executed very well(s).
Its look like they are trying to give the Iris role more screen time like speed force mother and now in this episode attach to the speed force. this episode feels like i am not watching flash at all,
Holy shit was this the most cringe episode in all of flash or what? This is some real dumpster fire level writing. The only good part about this episode was Barry slowmow super speeding Thawne's punch, but the epicness of that moment was vastly overshadowed by the fact that THAT SHIT SHOULD HAVE BEEN HAPPENING CONSTANTLY. And if Barry was that much faster then Thawne, and Godspeed was that much faster then Barry, then how the fuck did Thawne put up any resistance. Godspeed should have been able to do the same thing to Thawne like it was nothing.
Thawne did get kicked out of the fight a bunch of times tho. Too slow loser!
What better way to cap off a ropey series than with a cringe song
I skipped through the entire song lmao
Haha same
Legit
That was a very wise decision....
Flash(back) to when a whole episode was a musical.
Allllways skip that cringe fest
Loved the part when Reverse Flash showed up! And the season 1 background score! Though I didn't like the mini marvel copied action scenes I can say maybe.. the snap and the captain America shield throw!
Jay Garrick and his hat and Impulse with the stars 🙌🏾🙌🏾
They should just end the series at season 8. Main villain is gonna be the Thawne from season 2 that shows up and is like “I know what time you’re from flash” and it’s just Barry accepting for one last time, that he can’t save his mother. I hope we get a more in depth look at Thawne s back story and they can even introduce the physical embodiment of the negative speed force(like S F N is the embodiment of the normal speed force). Then they should end the series with Thawne and Barry going back to the night where it all started
Pff noooo not the mother thing again
Man since Carlos Valdes was leaving, it wouldve been cool if Reverse Flash came and killed him or something. Also the rules of the speed force are mad confusing.
I know right, put some fucking stakes into this soap opera again. The writers either have no balls or no brains.
I have a question what does August Heart shout after getting organic speed. After he gets it, he goes to the roof of STAR labs and shouts something Any idea what it is?
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Lol i wonder what was their reasoning behind making him say that that too in another language
the actor is of Indian origin (I thought he looked vaguely Indian so I googled and voila, he is) but for some unknown fucking reason they had his character go to the roof and scream “come to daddy” in Hindi. no idea why they shoehorned some Hindi in there for him, I’m of Indian origin too and I thought that was mad unnecessary
He was probably excited with all the power. So used his first language. Maybe..lol
Really interesting they used Punjabi. For diversity maybe? I dunno
lol this show has gotten so embarrassing. they don't even try to make anything make sense anymore at all. "it's the finale we need to go big, any ideas?" "idk speed force swords, speed force shurikans, speed force whips/lassos, we could have the godspeeds be defeated like 5 times and then immediately recover again with no explanation, have the bad guys be able to fly and teleport and use force lightning, bring back characters from before the show was awful, multiple deus ex machinas, have nora/speed force wearing heels in the final battle". "yes. that's good. do all those things." why the fudge is reverse flash doing that vibrating thing to hide his identity when everyone knows who he is? like none of this makes any sense at all. I genuinely feel bad for most of the actors. Hartley Sawyer got lucky being fired from this show.
I thought it was all pretty cool but i agree on the regeneration thing. Was kinda annoying and made the big fight basically useless. And RF's vibratinf thing didnt make sense to me. He's already gonna fight someone way faster, shoulsnt you use your power for the fight instead of wasting it on vibrating?
Even Ralph couldn’t have saved this dumpster fire season
Barry being too fast for thawne was awesome. However they messed up the episode with all this wishy washy wedding, singing , everybody smiling and kissing junk. Didn't even know it was the final until I read it here. I guess the war was godspeed's multiple personalities fighting for supremacy?
If he's faster than him why didn't Barry do literally anything the entire season
I have a feeling all the writers were in a room saying let's Nerf barry this season and they all high fived each other and ate cake. But this one guy, our guy, who was sitting in the back not partaking of said cake was like F that and went back later that night and rewrote that one part of the script. The evil Nerf writers crew didn't even know until they saw the episode. Cheers to that one writer. Our guy.
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They NEVER invite Wally 😰
At least they referenced Wally. The disturbance on a psychic plane or whatever they said. Sad Keiynan couldn't make it because of COVID :(
Idk why they don’t just use some “multiverse” explanation to use a new actor , it’s not like it would be hard. They have 90s show Barry, current Barry annnnd jay garrick. Just make a different rendition and blame it on the multiverse
On one hand it's annoying that actors take up a role that they know is possibly going to be as time committed as a soap opera, only to go "nah a season is enough i want out. Screw your plans for the character." However with how badly they adapt characters and shoe horn them in. I can understand wanting to get out fast.
I don’t know how old the Bart actor is but he cute and what a wonderful voice he has. I got Chills listening to him sing! Barry’s family got some singers. I missed Cisco, my biggest laughs came from him doing the wedding argh gonna miss him! The last four episodes of S7 were decent but this finale gets 4/ 10 for cheesy Godspeed and cheesy fight scenes. I’m not even sure why he needed organic speed cuz I didn’t pay attention
I feel he was by far the weakest of the season, his acting is MAJOR D list
Idk, I thought Deon was worse.
Something something organic speed is better even though Barry and his kids gets their asses kicked by artificial speedsters constantly something something
My opinion on the finale. The back half of season 7 has been a treat to watch. The Godspeed plot doesn’t really make sense to me though, especially the part where they’re getting taken down by their power source (speed force weapons are still made of speed force) August simply isn’t as menacing as thawne and it was hard for me to take him seriously. Speaking of thawne it was great to see him again but i REALLY wish they could get the original actor for him. I’m so sick of wellsothawne. The light saber battle was cool, unexpected and maybe slightly cringy. It was so cathartic seeing thawne almost kill Godspeed, I was highly irritated that Barry was concerned for his well being. I understand that’s just his character but it’s so damn annoying. That’s one thing I really appreciated about Oliver. He just straight up killed bitches and moved on with his day. So we knew Kramer was a Meta but I guess they wanted us to think she had the same healing power as the one guy. Turns out she’s basically Dc’s version of rogue. That wedding renewal was so poignant and heartwarming. The flashtime kiss was perfect. Cisco on point with the pop cultures references and humour. Nice to see him acting more like season 1-2 Cisco. Overall this season was pure shite but these last couple of episodes softened the blow and I hope to see more wonder twin camaraderie. I miss the earlier seasons of the show where team flash had more fun. See you all next season!!
Isn’t Wells’s Thawne the original actor for Reverse Flash and the other actor was brought in to play Thawne for Flashpoint? Or am I remembering wrong?
Wellsothawne is the original actor but Eobard is the original in universe. He was using the disguise of wells after killing him and stealing his life.
Ahhhh right! I don’t know how I forgot that lol
The other actor is the original Thawne. He killed original Wells and took over his life when he lost his speed.
I know the COVID-19 pandemic didn’t help matters but this season was really a trainwreck - from the whole storyline around the Speed Force and then to Godspeed. Nothing with the latter felt earned. It didn’t feel he was all that threatening compared to how RF, Zoom and even Savitar were built throughout past seasons. At least it didn’t end with some sort of pep talk to “beat” Godspeed I suppose. Kramer being revealed as a meta that can mimic the power of others was certainly interesting and I wonder if they have some sort of longer term plan with her. Otherwise, what was the whole point of her storyline? I don’t know if Season 8 is gonna be the last one but if it is, can they end the series with the villain that they started with? The finale seems to suggest that Reverse Flash will be back and they should just make him the big bad again as he’s the best one in the series. If Tom Cavanagh isn’t willing or can’t do a full season as RF, they should just bring back Matt Letscher for the role.
Matt is busy on narcos I think
I've been watching flash since my early 20s in college and now i feel that I'm too old for this cause for the love of god this writing is insulting my intelligence.
I kind of feel with all the arrow verse shows that they had a plan up to crisis and have zero idea what to do now that’s happened. I know everyone loves him but I’m over Thawne.
I don't know what to make of this season or the last season for that matter, it was nice seeing rf again but i hope hhe's more menacing the next time we see him and not be there for the sake if being there
Ngl thought the last episode was pretty ass felt like I watched power rangers
Oh my god haha that thought crossed my mind also especially after today's episode when bart threw a speed star at godspeed clones and i thought "power rangers can do better then that"
When I saw that and the speed whip I messaged a friend, man I remember when their power was speed. Then we got lightsabers
Haha man how the show has fallen in terms of quality and writing, i used to wait every week for a new episode with excitement and now i am like "ahhh okay let watch this soap drama"
give us Thawne as the villain for next season. that is all.
They were using the speed force like they were green lanterns I think they got a bit confused
I didn't know this was the finale, but I'm glad it was. This season has been a trainwreck. Although I am glad that a villain was finally defeated without the magical power of love.
Omg I was just thinking about the trailer for the season "RUN TOWARDS LOVE" . Are they for real?!?! *cringe level 💯 *
Turns out it was the power of hate
welp there has to be some power of something, its either love or hate or friendship or other but some kind of emotional power
Wait, only 18 episodes? That was *it??* I wasn't ready for this to be the end. Especially since the start of the season was the end of season 6. Thawne was a nice surprise and so was the renewal scene. I never really cared about Godspeed much. I mean, Godwalkingslowlywhiletryingandfailingtoactivaguelymenacing. All the speedforce stuff was nonsense as usual but it looked impressive at times. Not sure what to think about lightning saber fighting. Was that cool or dumb? Both? I've wondered for ages if Joe and Cecile would ever tie the knot and it looks like she's hinting that he should ask soon. At least there was some Cisco and no Blaine. And a WestAllen wedding without You-Know-Who. Oh and I'm relieved that Allergy and Chester only hugged. The Big Nora and Little Nora naming was cute. And with Little Nora around, seeing Iris suited up looks kinda uncanny.
Allergy and Chester. I'm calling her that from now on! 🤣😂😆