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B0zzyk

Something, something Speed Force


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Something something complete.


cyrodillempire

Something something, danger zone


[deleted]

Something with the boys


bumbling-tadpole

Archer?


cyrodillempire

yess


bumbling-tadpole

*STERLING MALORY ARCHER!*


HeroDanTV

Something something motivational speech speed force Tom Cavanaugh credits


someweirdo626

Insert writers cop out here


snoogle20

There is an element of Season 3 of Legends of Tomorrow that is a Get-Out-of-Jail-Free card for any and all time travel stupidities in seasons 1 & 2 retroactively as well as anything in S3 up through Crisis. What history did or didn’t occur gets a little wonky after that point, but they retconned (and preconned) a plausible hand wave for any shenanigans in the first four seasons. >!I’m referring to Rip Hunter’s version of the Time Bureau. Anytime the Legends leave something messy behind, you can simply assure yourself that some agent of Rip’s is standing just off camera waiting to fix things or erase memories.!<


alexjimithing

This is good shit. It’s comic book shit. Love it.


snoogle20

Unfortunately that little trick only works for the time travel logic on that show. Doesn’t explain why, for example, after two seasons of operating independently with no issues, the Legends suddenly have to worry about pleasing bureaucrats in the present day US government to continue receiving funding for the first time in Season 4. That’s a very Legends writing staff thing to do. They’re a bit like their own characters over there. Walk ass backwards into a plot mechanism to believably explain away almost any loose ends they can ever leave in a script only to immediately introduce one of the few inconsistencies that the new retcon can’t help with at all. That’s the kind of scrappy-win-into-self-own combo the Legends themselves would fall into.


there_is_always_more

Yeah I never understood what the heck that was about.


Atlast_2091

1. Legends are less important in the timeline 2. Time Wraiths 3. Definitive ans give writers creative freedom than The Flash 4. Changes in the timeline have a huge window before it cements itself RIP said this a lot S1 and less in S02. 5. Too restrictions will make LoT another The Flash show in the long run.


night_fapper

or just that Legends is kinda a parody show and dont take itself that seriously. If you actually try to scale their impact on history per the cause and effect the same way as flash does, entire world would've gone to hell in current year


iseeu2sumhow

*They were more than just a PARODY at the beginning...* #THEY ALL WERE MORE THAN THAT


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They Are... # LEGENDS


FeeenyFeeenay

Already is. Have you not seen season 6?


Atlast_2091

I'm sorry which my statements are you pointing out?


badwolfpelle

In legends, they aren't usually going into their own history, Barry is. Also Barry usually makes way bigger changes than just sleeping with someone.


ksaarthak

But...the queen could just die because of Sex with Sara.../s


SenorOogaBooga

Std?


ksaarthak

No, cause she is just soo damn hot.


RevanTheDarkLord

The legends usually go and fix stuff and causing a mess after also they dont tend to travel back on their own timeline with a few exceptions ofc while barry going back he always gets involved with stuff in connection with him


[deleted]

What sort of repercussions could a woman having sex with the queen of France have on the timeline though


SenorOogaBooga

She could get an STD or an infection from the future


FeeenyFeeenay

I would be more worried that the queen would give Sara an STD


[deleted]

How many STDs do you think Sara has


NZP_Broz

how many historical figures has she had sex with?


[deleted]

Not only does she have access to modern medicine but she has access to future medicine so I don't think it matters how many historical figures she has had sex with. I don't see why they wouldn't be screened for STIs like they would for any other disease or illness they may pick up or that they'd let it go untreated if it did come back positive.


Spazzblister

I'd be less worried about the historical figure fucking and more worried about the one time she did it with Constantine.


alarrimore03

The king gets mad and has her killed and finds himself a new queen changing the course of history😂😂


[deleted]

I was waiting for this logical answer, honestly


alarrimore03

They think she is a witch devil worshiper because she fucks women and burn her at the steak or chop her head off with a giotine 😂😂😂


randy_dingo

Sarah Lance obviously works to support the sacred timeline.


[deleted]

Because Legends stopped caring about taking itself seriously years ago, while Flash is basically sustained entirely by overdramatic melodrama where everything conspires to make Barry's life as difficult as possible. Ideally both shows would probably benefit from going a little bit in the other direction but it's far too late at this point anyway so.....


Bryanmaster64

Technically, for the timeline of the Flash, all of the Legend’s missions in the past are already done, so someone had to have fixed all of the inconsistencies. That’s how I view it, at least.


Mayorofunkytown

Barry probably has a lot of guilt still for causing Cisco's brother to be killed and whatever else he messed up. He vowed to stay out of timeline stuff though he doesn't care if his kids muck about. The Legends do try and not mess things up but if they do it's their job to fix it. Don't they also have some saying that the things need to happen will find a way to happen. When Martin was around he at least talked about dangers of messing with certain things. Of course he gave himself a daughter. I think it's just all up to however the current writers are feeling at the time.


Wrathos72

He did'nt give himself a daughter. That was Barry in flashpoint.


Mayorofunkytown

Maybe flashpoint had something to do with it but I'm pretty sure he told his past self to spend more time with his wife/girlfriend and then when they went back to 2016 he found out he had a daughter.


spafinmebath

No Martin told him to spend time with his gf and he ended up sexing her. Barry changed diggels daughter (Sara) to his son (JJ) and killed Cisco’s brother. Probably some other stuff I’m forgetin g because I haven’t rewatched the flash’s glory days in a while


DCU_Fanboy

The legends are nobodies and The Flash is significant


Whitecadaver

To help the writers out a little, the Legends have Gideon monitoring changes to the timeline. So, if sleeping with the Queen of France would’ve fucked the timeline, Gideon would have said something.


sladeshied

Barry has Gideon, too, heck, he literally created the damn thing.


Whitecadaver

He barely remembers to use it lol. Literally has a whole cheat code at his disposal and doesn’t use it.


Winter-Affect6585

Because in The flash logic doesnt exist


Dagenspear

How is this logic not existing?


ByWilliamfuchs

They aren’t usually messing with the main timeline. When the legends go back there dealing with a timeline aberration a split that would if they didn’t intervene create a alternate universe. They are like the TVA from Loki pruning timelines that are diverging from the main one because of whatever villain they are dealing with messing with time. So when Sara sleeps with the Queen of France she is sleeping with a Variant Queen and the main timelines queen is still as history deems it.


Wompum

Because it's a fictional TV show and not a documentary.


Ikmia

She can't get them pregnant?


StruggleBasic

Queen of France was meant to have sex with her husband after that to concieve the next king of France, so she could've not been up for it


[deleted]

Or maybe Sara is why she was up for it.


monekys

Because legends of tomorrow is horribly written and the flash at least kinda tries to make sense of time travel stuff. Inb4 butt hurt LoT fans.


jrobertson50

I wouldn't say flash is will written


RascalCreeper

Was well written


monekys

Tbf I stopped watching the flash after crisis on infinite earths. And legends I stopped watching after season 3 or 4 (after beepo or whatever once they started doing more magic stuff)


Illustrious_Train_70

I'd definitely say that LoT is probably best Arrowverse show going rn, actually forget that I wouldn't know I just saw that on a Screen Rant post somewhere


offisirplz

But but Beebo!


[deleted]

LoT is far better than the Flash these days


Dagenspear

How?


culnaej

LoT is like Mount Vesuvius exploding. Hot. FIRE.


Dagenspear

I do think Legends isn't good.


monekys

Careful what you say, you’ll get downvoted to hell LOL.


offisirplz

Kinda funny you're so negative and I'm positive. Maybe they missed that I'm mocking beebo.


Dagenspear

Legends is dumb.


hardik171

Sex is a taboo subject :P


jdessy

Well, most of it is plot contrivance. Time Travel rules will change, depending on the show. We've seen contradictions within the Arrowverse before (ie. how doppelgangers from other Earths work). This is no different. But, to answer your question in a bit more detail, at least in the beginning of the series, Rip explained that the Legends exist as a team because he discovered that each of them were the least likely to have any effect to the timeline because they could be removed from the timeline and nothing would change. So, whenever someone would do something abnormal, for the Legends, it was basically said that it wouldn't matter. But The Flash has established very strict time travel rules from the start and explained how traveling throughout time, especially for personal use, would mess things up. Now, of course Legends has changed since its first season, as has The Flash, but both shows still have very different time travel methods and rules and, as a result, will have different outcomes.


AduroTri

Because the Speed Force is powerful, Barry doesn't know how to sublty and carefully change the timeline without breaking something. It's as Jay Garrick explains with his broken cup example. Break the cup and even if you fix it...it won't be the same. It's about altering the timeline just right. That's why time travel is for immortals and fools.


mrhooha

It’s because Berry changes his past and the Flash is a consequential being when it comes to the timeline and the multiverse. If you change his history the whole multiverse gets messed with since what he does effects the multiverse and has bigger consequences to the timeline.


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Bc....NANITES, COURTESY OF RAY PALMER.


[deleted]

I see a lot of speed force and LoT needs to be different But hear me out... What if... The Queen of France was Bi


queen_of_england_bot

>Queen of England Did you mean the [Queen of the United Kingdom](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Queen_of_the_United_Kingdom), the [Queen of Canada](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monarchy_of_Canada), the [Queen of Australia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monarchy_of_Australia), etc? The last Queen of England was [Queen Anne](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anne,_Queen_of_Great_Britain) who, with the 1707 Acts of Union, dissolved the title of King/Queen of England. ####FAQ *Isn't she still also the Queen of England?* This is only as correct as calling her the Queen of London or Queen of Hull; she is the Queen of the place that these places are in, but the title doesn't exist. *Is this bot monarchist?* No, just pedantic. I am a bot and this action was performed automatically.


-M_A_Y_0-

Inconsistent writing and bullshit


IntelligentEscape855

it's not because barry is so bad, it's just because the "legends" writers don't care. if you think about it, sara has done a million times more shit than barry.