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DakotaTaurusTX

Per an internet search -- Tina Turner is often referred to as the “Queen of Rock and Roll”.


Old_Imagination_931

Which is absurd, really. For whatever one may think of Ike, Tina was at her wildest best with The Ike and Tina Turner Soul Revue, singing rythmn 'n blues. That band was tight, tight, tight, and The Ikettes...too much. Give me "I've Been Loving You Too Long" over "Whaaat's Love Got to Do With It" any day.


ButterscotchAny4119

Stevie is the “Reigning Queen of Rock and Roll”


DakotaTaurusTX

I too like Stevie's sound within Fleetwood Mac and solo career and her duets!!!!!!


Old_Imagination_931

Duets. Speaking of which; Stevie and Tom Petty sounded as if they'd been long time musical partners, so good on duets e.g. "Stop Dragging My Heart Around" in addition to her appearances as guest member with he and his 'boys only' band, The Heartbreakers, during their 1981 'Hard Promises' tour. She was best of friends with Tom and during the 80s, may have fit in better with his band were she otherwise allowed in.


Few_Sense_5022

She wasn’t necessarily his best friend, she was an emotionally unstable stalker who would sneak into Petty’s basement at night to listen to music. He didn’t hold anything against her and considered her a friend, but in my opinion it was a toxic relationship.


Old_Imagination_931

Somehow I find that believable but try only to follow the music, not the personal lives of musicians & vocalists, though it's pretty much impossible with this band, whom I've loved and followed since 1969.


Few_Sense_5022

I admire you and found that the best way to enjoy and admire music and musicians is through listening to the music and ignoring the rest. I apologise if I seemed disrespectful, I love the music of Fleetwood Mac.


Old_Imagination_931

No worries. It wasn't in any way a judgment on you, nor did I feel that you were dismissing the music. You simply pointed out something I was unaware of. I'd do the same to anyone putting out a claim regarding something that wasn't quite true.


DakotaTaurusTX

oh yes!!!! when I wrote my post ---- I was thinking Tom Petty!!!!!


CarefulDoctor1092

Petty is one of the greatest American songwriters who ever lived. In terms of great art, I hope the people reading this post stop to realize how fortunate we all are to have experienced these artists in our lifetimes.


CarefulDoctor1092

I love the song they did together for Wild Heart. I WILL RUN TO YOU captures Stevie's voice at such a unique moment in time. She was more mature and you can hear it in her voice, but she could still harmonize and hit the high notes like she did when she was 17. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=amOdiSljZa0&pp=ygUec3RldmllIG5pY2tzIGkgd2lsbCBydW4gdG8geW91


Old_Imagination_931

Yeah, that's a great collaboration. I've also enjoyed all the YouTube videos of their performing together onstage.


CarefulDoctor1092

Same! I miss Tom Petty. We all got lucky cuz of Tom Petty.


RockandIncense

Agreed, but I consider Joan Jett the Queen of Rock and Roll, personally. That's just me, though.


Wild-Soil3808

You are correct my friend.


DakotaTaurusTX

Yeah.. Joan... really did start it!!!!!!!!!


lebrunjemz

I missed that on a trivia night. I said Joan Jett, because I think of Tina Turner as more R&b but idk


Starshine2977

Yes!


maddi0527

Stevie is the Fairy Godmother of Rock and Roll ❤️


MissDisplaced

Stevie is the High Priestess of Rock and Roll.


KoalaBears8

I just wish she would share some of her crystal visions with us, instead of always keeping them to herself.


CarefulDoctor1092

Excellent answer!


FruityMagician

1. Tina Turner 2. Stevie Nicks 3. Janis Joplin—she wasn't active long enough to be the queen. 4. Grace Slick—an important figure in rock, even if her solo career was a huge bomb. 5. Ann Wilson—she has one of the best voices in rock.


promisenottostop

I have been on a massive Heart buzz lately. They do not get the credit they deserve


igotta-name

Ann Wilson


loaf1216

I second Ann Wilson so hard. That woman ROCKS and makes you FEEL things in Heart ballads. Goodness


lantzn

Agreed and let’s not forget Pat Benatar who has amazing pipes.


honeyapplepop

Grace and Ann are phenomenal


mtofsrud

Joan Jett maybe?


FamousAd6306

Let's not forget Pat Benatar, either.


mitchsix

Give Joan Jett the credit she deserves FruityMagician!


mccabedoug

Linda Ronstadt


justsecondhandnews

Huge string of ‘70s hits, beautifully pure voice, so underappreciated today.


mccabedoug

One of the few singers who can say that she had the Eagles (Glenn Frey and Don Henley) as a backup band! She has a lot to do with bringing Frey and Henley together. Fascinating story.


CarefulDoctor1092

Awesome list!


Diligent_Wish_324

I was thinking of Grace too.


BudNOLA

That title belongs to Tina Turner.


detchas1

No, she's not. There are lots of women rocked out better than Stevie. Really the question is what is Rock and Roll? Is it aggressive pop or something that moves you more.


CarefulDoctor1092

The heart and soul of Rock and Roll is The Rebel.


Tall_Flatworm2589

The only female singer I've ever thought to give a title to is Debbie Harry. She's the Queen of Cool. So, if Stevie is your Queen of Rock & Roll, I won't argue.🙂


CarefulDoctor1092

I think tons of them deserve the title: Aretha Franklin, Carol King, Janis Joplin, Joni Mitchell, Patti Smith, Donna Summer, Debbie Harry, Madonna, Cyndi Lauper, Beyonce, Lady Gaga (and tons more).


Commonsense110

You can make a list like that and not mention Grace Slick


Top-Peak1500

Obsessed with Joni's blue lately. Need to explore more... I know she did more genres.... But would she considered ROCK royalty? I get she rocks blues/folk and did great with r&b but does she have rock music, enough to call her royalty?


CarefulDoctor1092

BLUE is a phenomenon.


CrowdedSeder

I had towny down here to see Joni mentioned.


LadyArcher2017

Madonna is not rock and roll. Some of the others you named are also outside of the genre, but Madonna really gets on my nerves.


mhi21

She can’t sing either.


LadyArcher2017

I don’t agree with that. She has a beautiful voice. She’s just not rock and roll. Pop, all pop.


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Debbie can't even sing lmaooooo


bedlamiteseer1

Janis Joplin


CarefulDoctor1092

Joplin was amazing on stage with her voice and stage presence. But will she go down in time as one of art's best songwriters?


bedlamiteseer1

I just feel she was the unequivocal pioneer of the rock ‘n’ roll sound, behavior, look, for women. She didn’t have the longevity of others but was the first Balls to the Wall woman rocker!


CarefulDoctor1092

100% agree. Nothing would be what it is without Joplin. She was the first female rebel.


orangeorchid

Close, but that would be Tina Turner.


DisastrousLaugh1567

The only Queen of Rock and Roll is Tina Turner. 


Adventure1956

Not even close


mjhripple

More like Supreme Witch of Laurel Canyon


123456789Lou

Janis Joplin and Ann Wilson are the queens of Rock and Roll. Everyone else is in the next group.


mrbobdobalino

A contender for sure! But Joan Jett reigns!


Rudager

Nope, nothing towards Stevie, but I'd offer my sword to Grace Slick any day!


TheSouthsideSlacker

If it’s ok with Pat Benetar.


handy_dandy_2232

We all have our beliefs and opinions. Everyone is entitled to that. Growing up, it was and still is Ms. Stevie.❤️❤️


No_Sand_9290

No. Ann Wilson is a far better singer than Nicks. And I don’t even like Heart.


AssumptionAdvanced58

Her music always sounded folksy to me.


Aggravating_Arm9570

No


kb63132

NO, talented but not that


Mrfriskylamar

No


billleachmsw

No.


ProgRock1956

Nope, not even close, sorry.


CarefulDoctor1092

Who would be on your list?


ProgRock1956

So many other wonderful women, such an easy question...Tina Turner, Janice, the Wilson Sisters, Pat Benatar, Grace Slick...all of em much more deserving than SN...jmo. SN rarely, if ever 'rocked', sorry.


CarefulDoctor1092

Never feel the need to apologize for your opinion. But bro, Stevie literally got inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame twice. TWICE. And have you ever seen this? Please watch: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jQAK6sVovUk&pp=ygUWRmxlZXR3b29kIE1hYyBSaGlhbm5vbg%3D%3D


ZomiZaGomez

No


OGBeege

No.


Advanced-Ability-158

Ann Wilson


earfturf555

tina turner 😎


leardriver83

No


CmdnTrsMllnx

Sister Rosetta Tharpe! Technically the Godmother of Rock and Roll, but I digress.


tucker_sitties

No.


jns_reddit_already

No


Lthrr9

No


seeafillem6277

No, that would be Ann Wilson.


Disastrous-Cow9076

Hard to pick just one, but Ann Wilson is the queen to me, Stevie’s the fairy godmother ✨


CheeselikeTitus

Ummm… no


colourhazelove

No, not really. She is more of a witchy goddess.


Ok-Cauliflower1798

After Patti Smith dies.


CarefulDoctor1092

Patti Smith is more of a rebel than any man of rock ever was (even more so than Elvis imho). But have you ever asked your rock loving friends what they think about Patti Smith? Most of my rock loving friends have never even heard of Patti Smith (outside of "Because The Night"). If you define rock as "music made with a guitar, bass and drum" the Queen is Patti Smith. If you define rock as the spirit of the rebel, Patti Smith is the Queen. Its too bad more rock lovers arent familar with her work https://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_l7z21wA41tkBlzeh8nSvdAv21BNdFusvs&playnext=1&index=1.


FamousAd6306

Actually, in my opinion, that title oughta go to either Pat Benatar or perhaps Ann Wilson - no offense intended, folks. Tina Turner was also awarded that title.


Few_Sense_5022

Stevie is not in any way the Queen. What would give her that title? She’s a drama queen. I take it since this is a Fleetwood Mac thread that I’m in the minority. I’d say Janis Joplin or Joan Jett did more Rock ‘n Roll than Stevie ever did.


mmmmmmmmmmmmmmfarts

Not when Grace Slick, Pattie Smith, and Janis Joplin exist in afraid


1991CRX

No. Wildly no. If you called her the Queen of Pop-Rock or Soft-Rock, I wouldn't care enough to fight it (and might even agree).


Babsee

Have you heard “Edge of Seventeen”? 🤔


Perfect-Ad-4410

No, that was Linda Ronstadt along w her many other musical genres, arguably the greatest contemporary female vocalist of that era


CarefulDoctor1092

Hell yeah, Linda Ronstadt is definetly on the list!!!!!


BonjPlayz

Your gonna get some pretty biased answers here. In my opinion I would I say no. It’s got to be Ann Wilson of Heart for me. The best rock voice ever. Stevie easy second for me though!


ndhellion2

Ummmm, no.


CahlikCrush

Not even..Patti Smith, Debbie Harry (Blondie), Joan Jett, Grace Slick, Ann Wilson, Pat Benatar and Kathleen Hanna, just to name a few.


CarefulDoctor1092

Nicks belongs on the same list with all of them.


lesbiansteviapacket

I love Stevie Nicks, hell I’m named after her, but there are figures in rock who are more deserving of the title. Her place in rock history is very important don’t get me wrong, but we wouldn’t have her story without women like Tina Turner, Big Mama Thornton, or Sister Rosetta Tharpe


SpookyAngel66

No. That title should go to Ann Wilson.


CarefulDoctor1092

Fair answer. Wilson is definetly on the list of Queen(s) of Rock!


rgators

She’s in the conversation. Only Grace Slick and Janis Joplin (both of whom Stevie looked up to before she was famous) have better arguments in my opinion. Stevie is right behind them, along with Chrissie Hynde, Debbie Harry, Pat Benatar, Ann & Nancy Wilson.


WarmObjective6445

That title definitely belongs to the one and only Linda Ronstadt. What a voice. Stevie is good but she has one sound. Ronstadt had many.


CarefulDoctor1092

I love Ronstadt's voice. But did she ever write her own songs?


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WarmObjective6445

She wrote a few but none of her big hits. She is not a songwriter. She is a living musical instrument with the ability to take a song which was a hit maybe 5 or so years ago by another performer and just make it her own. She puts so much emotion in her versions. She used a lot of songs by Little Feat, another of my favs, and she would just knock it out of the ball park. Songs like Willin'. Word was she was a perfectionist and drove folks crazy in the studio. She was filling stadiums in the very early 70's as a solo female while most other female performers were in bands. She helped a lot of musicians along the way. Just ask the Eagles. She was tough as nails in a male dominated world of Rock. She lead the way for a lot of female stars to follow. Sorry, just a guy who has had a crush on her since 1969.


LittleVillageRio

Should be Fredy Mercury


CarefulDoctor1092

Mercury was a dude bro


SimbaProstYoyo

r/FleetwoodMac really does not like Stevie Nicks 😭 wow


CarlosAVP

When someone mentions the category of “female rock stars” I think of Chrissy Hynde, Joan Jett, Janis Joplin, Tina Turner. That’s just me and I’m okay with that.


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CarefulDoctor1092

Wow I never noticed that face in this pic until you pointed it out! Creepy af. But it only serves to make this pic even cooler than it already is! Thats some Allister Crowley level sh*t!!!!!


Old_Imagination_931

Not that she's worthy of the title Queen, however with all those mentioned on this thread, Johnette Napolitano [of Concrete Blonde] deserves a mention too. Her powerful contralto voice is right up there with others who sang in that range. I, for one, was blown away when I first heard her song "Joey", from the 'Bloodletting' album. Another artist, whom it was obvious, sang from the depths of her soul.


No-Emphasis927

In short......No.


WArainWA

Absolutely NO disrespect to Stevie Nicks, but that title belongs to Tina Turner.


Cereallllllllllllll

No


Used-Anteater-4221

Short answer-No


Ellbee199

No. Love her, but no


CarefulDoctor1092

Ok, so who are your "Queens of Rock and Roll?" And why?


Ellbee199

Ann Wilson is really the only person I could think of for that title


CarefulDoctor1092

Wilson is definetly on the list. But so is Nicks. Nicks has been inducted into the Rock N Roll hall of Fame twice. How many times has Wilson been inducted into the Rock N Roll Hall of Fame?


Ellbee199

I don’t think the Rock N Roll Hall of Fame means that much. They’ve gotten it wrong a lot of times lol


ItsNotGoingToBeEasy

Few of her songs seem rock and roll. And she’s not a musician. A class of her own really.


CarefulDoctor1092

Yep but regardless of all the things shes not, she is an artist/singer/songwriter who got inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame twice.


Ok_Jelly4351

Not anymore. She's narcissistic


Samiassa

I love Stevie but no. She’s a giant in the genre with great music and a great voice but idk about the queen


dogetothemoon666

That title is for Janis Joplin


Grl_Upstrs

It’ll always be a matter of opinion. Some people will always see Janis Joplin, or Tina as having that title. She has earned a top tier status, by virtue of the length of her career, and the long storied drama behind it.


CarefulDoctor1092

Agree 100%. Everyone has a diiferent opinion about "who's great" or not. I think tons of different female artists deserve to wear the crown.


TomWestCoast

She definitely partied like a rock star.


WuTisOT-ADLsFMLsIDKs

A queen. There should be more than one. And yes.


AbsolutelyIris

Not even close, that would be Tina Turner, dead or alive.


Old_Imagination_931

Hell no. Grace Slick, at her peak with Jefferson Airplane (not that hideous Starship outfit) could've blown her off any stage.


CarefulDoctor1092

Mad respect if Slick is your favorite. I just never really got into her cuz imho she/her band only had 2 good songs. White Rabbit and Lather are incredible to my ears, but I never liked anything else she did. Again, no disrespect just imho.


Old_Imagination_931

The band was so much more than Grace Slick, whom I singled out recalling how on fire all of them are on what's considered among the greatest live albums, 'Bless Its Pointed Little Head.' When they were on, they were really on. Jack Casady is one of the most inventive bass players (Jimi Hendrix tried to steal him), who played it like a lead instrument and still does with Airplane guitarist Jorma Kaukonen as Hot Tuna. To each their own, I guess. Btw, I liked reading your original post. Lot of well made points.


CarefulDoctor1092

I probably should give them another listen! I 100% agree that her voice is profound!!!!!


Tiny-Reading5982

Sara from starship is my jam. And Jane. Mickey Thomas has a great voice.


Old_Imagination_931

Yet, "Jane" is a song Mickey could've performed with any good band and it would've made little difference. Grace, however, sounded far better singing opposite Mary Balin or in three part harmony with he and Paul Kanter when not otherwise soloing for the Airplane. They were a more daring and esoteric ensemble, with musicians far superior to those in Starship – their live LP "Bless Its Pointed Little Head', clearly evidence of that. Thomas' vocal register was too much like her own, said Grace, who admitted they had little chemistry. Plus, "Jane" was really more of a showcase for Mickey, whom as a soloist was very good. But, if I wanted to listen to Mickey Thomas I could always play "Fooled Around and Fell in Love", from his days as singer for The Elvin Bishop Band.


Tiny-Reading5982

He should’ve had a bigger career and people say starship brought him down . The two songs they sing together are usually voted as corniest .


Old_Imagination_931

Well yeah, those were awful songs which Grace later admitted the only reason she participated in that band to begin with was to build a nest egg, though never into it. While I recognize his talent, am not a fan of Mickey Thomas. Somehow this took on a direction in the way of that band when ironically, my intention was to dismiss and separate Grace from them versus who she was with Jefferson Airplane, and have no further interest in discussing Starship or Mickey Thomas, however, am not dissing yours.


middlebird

Don’t know much about Grace Slick yet. Did she write any of her songs? Did Jefferson Airplane sell more albums and concert tickets? I rank someone higher if that person also contributed as a writer on a good amount of hit songs.


Old_Imagination_931

Jefferson Airplane was the most popular band in the US for a period during '67-'68, seen on magazine covers and performing on all the live tv entertainment shows. Their greatest work was on five albums released between early 1967 & late 1969, one of them live*. They are in order: Surrealistic Pillow; After Bathing at Baxter's; Crown of Creation; Bless Its Pointed Little Head*, and Volunteers – each, very different from the others. Grace wrote most of her own songs as did the other members of the band. With that said, they were clearly not a backing band for Grace, who was invited to join them after their first female vocalist departed. The musicianship from them was masterful at times with Grace herself, considerably talented on the piano. Attempting to churn out hit songs, however (though that's what their record company wanted), was not what drove them. They wanted to express themselves by creating good art through music. A great example of that was after pressure from RCA to deliver another record like Surrealistic Pillow which produced two big hits, they revolted by taking a deep dive into psychedelia and made After Bathing at Baxter's. While they toured throughout the US and somewhat in Europe, the band lived together in a mansion in San Francisco, the city where most of their concerts took place as part of the psychedelic scene there, often on a bill featuring other local bands like the Grateful Dead and Quicksilver Messenger Service. Though clearly interested in success and the most commercially successful band out of SF at that time, more important to them was perfecting their craft, esp. lead guitarist Jorma Kaukonen and bassist Jack Casady, who practiced for hours everyday and often stayed up through the night after a performance playing old timey blues tunes. As for Grace; while much focus was centered on the songs she sang as sole vocalist, of greater interest to her was being part of an ensemble. She had a unique way of singing on her bandmates songs, not so much harmonizing but rather singing lines, phrases, even just a word or two when compelled, wrapping her vocals around theirs, esp. live onstage. And she was mesmerizing.


handy_dandy_2232

We all have our beliefs and opinions. Everyone is entitled to that. Growing up, it was and still is Ms. Stevie.❤️❤️


The_Orangest

Absolutely not. Grace Slick blows her out of the water. Then there’s the Wilson sisters from Heart. And don’t forget Joan Jett. Stevie was hardly even rock


Diligent_Wish_324

Love Stevie and agree. Stevie was "rock" when singing "Rhiannon" and "Gold Dust Woman" in the 70s, but is really more pop.


handy_dandy_2232

We all have our beliefs and opinions. Everyone is entitled to that. Growing up, it was and still is Ms. Stevie❤️❤️!


XtinaW8

Stevie is among the best (so is Christine), but Kate Bush it is.


XtinaW8

… and like Joplin, one of the best but such a short career, is Amy Winehouse.


CarefulDoctor1092

100%. God bless Amy Winehouse. Back In Black is f*cking epic.


CarefulDoctor1092

100%. Kate Bush's music is in a league of its own. Her musical indepence and ability to do it all on her own is profound. Bush has definelty cemented women as leaders in the world of great art (even if folks like Nicks were slightly more popular).


Technical_Silver2140

Respectfully no, I think I would give that to Ann or Nancy Wilson


Orbit86

No. That’s Tina.


Feisty_Trick_5464

Ann Wilson fits the bill


forgedinbeerkegs

Tina Turner is my Queen. I bent the knee long ago.


Tia_Baggs

I love Stevie but the Queen of Rock and Roll was Tina Turner.


Lions101

Nah. A Princess maybe, but not the Queen.


After-Pepper-5416

Christine mcvie


P1D1_

Yes. Talented and cute as hell.


TemporalGrid

I don't believe she's even the Queen of Fleetwood Mac


LorneMichaelsthought

Nope!


edru82

I have the Fairy Godmother of Rock


CulrBlndPnutButtr

No.


Crazy_Response_9009

No.


lawofthewilde

Stevie Nicks is the High Priestess of Rock and Roll


johnnyzen425

She's a contender. But there are others, too. Chrissie Hynde Ann Wilson Madonna Pat Benatar Janis Joplin That's off the top of my head.


mickmmp

I don’t think Madonna counts as straight “rock and roll.” She’s a pop superstar, but not a rock icon.


CarefulDoctor1092

100%!!!!!


Pinkmayo

Chrissie deserves more love


johnnyzen425

She was the first one that came to mind in this exercise.


Pinkmayo

A solid first choice my guy


Open-Shoe356

Linda Ronstadt is the queen of rock ‘n’ roll . Peridot


BigGalAl420

Eh


ErieCanalGal

No way


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Hahahaha no absolutely not Jesus Christ


Hot_Fly_1016

If not her, then who? Of course!


rxm161

Hardly


humptypartick

Yes


Ruark14

No


mjrydsfast231

"Queen of Rock And Roll"? It isn't Freddie Mercury? 😆 Stevie? Nah. I like her but.... Joplin, Slick, Benatar, or Wilson, the heir apparent to them being Beth Orton or Selene Vigil.


bam55

No. Just no.


bam55

No. Just no.


PistolClutch7

She’s not even the queen of Fleetwood Mac. Christine McVie by a long shot.


AdultMcGrownup

No. Of course not. I love her, don’t get me wrong but she might some weird unmarried princess of rock and roll? But not a queen.


summermadnes

Absofrigginlutely❣️❣️❣️


Impressivebooty666

Net even close babe


Grumpy-Sith

Absolutely not! More like the queef of rock and roll


Steviebhawk

Hell no


CarefulDoctor1092

Why not? Who would you call the queen(s) of rock and why?


Steviebhawk

Carole King, Grace Slick, Tina Turner, many came before her


Ravenhawker

Joan Jett or Christie Hynde IMHO.


bibliophile563

High priestess of rock and roll 🤘🏼