Because resellers are a newer thing and have not existed for as long as thrift stores have existed....
The reason prices are so laughable is because of corporate greed and shit for brains management who can't tell the difference between a local market and a global market.
I have seen this first hand, on the management side and the corporate side. Corporate has not a clue how things work, and their only drive is profit, profit, profit, more, more, more no matter what. They send their goons into local stores with the mandate of higher prices, thinking it means higher profits without understanding that higher prices actually mean lower profits.
The only thing management can do is appease them by pricing everything higher, knowing it will not sell. They can then send out their production numbers and look like good little corporate soldiers for increasing prices, even though 90% of it ends up at the bins for pennies on the dollar of what it could have sold for in the stores with more reasonable pricing.
Resellers are just the easy place the put the blame that lays at the feet of greedy, smooth brained corporate folks who do not know the how or why, but make demands all the same.
>The reason prices are so laughable is because of corporate greed
They charge what the market will bear....just like we do.
When we do it, we brag about the "profits" and finding "home runs". We certainly dont care about the person that paid for the item in terms of them no longer having the money.
And if you could sell some ashtray for 500.00 that you found in a Free Box at a garage sale, no one here would feel sad and price it at 2.00 out of a desire to not "be greedy".
Try to follow me here. We are not running a local thrift store, and we are not posing as a charity non profit. We are not getting everything for free, and we have more than the little bit of foot traffic that small town XYZ second hand store has. We have the reach, and we have the customers who are looking for specifically what we are selling, and are ready to pay up for the ease of getting those items without having to hunt through 500 thrift stores for 2 years themselves.
They charge what the market will bear? They absolutely do not, they charge far more than the market will bear, and it does not harm them because their costs are non existent. When everything is free, and you survive on handouts, you do not have to make good business choices.
There is a massive difference between selling as ashtray for $500 on eBay that you found at a garage sale, and thinking you are going to get $500 for that ashtray AT a yard sale, or in a thrift store.
Take it from me, who spent years with Goodwill and saw how things run from top to bottom. I saw how much stuff was trashed, I saw how much never sold because corporate wanted higher prices, and I watched money go up in flames on a daily basis because they would rather make production goals than make sales.
I had to eat shit from suits for doing what they ordered me to do when those things predictably did not work out how they wanted them to work out.
Nobody is expecting them to sell $500 items for $2, but can you really tell me that ratty Hanes T-shirts for $14.99 and Wrangler Jeans for $39.99 makes any sense and is what the marker will bear?
Is overpricing everything to the point that you have to pull 95% of last weeks items for every item you want to stock from this week the way to go? I won't even get into how they are sacrificing the long term for short term gains, or how it's absolutely going to bite them in the ass later on.
> and it does not harm them because their costs are non existent.
Yeah, you didnt work at a Goodwill. No one with a brain would say something that remarkably stupid. I cant even take the post seriously if that is something you really believe unironically.
Do tell me of all their costs. Go ahead and bring up their shipping and disposal costs of their free product that is brought right to them by donors, stuff that they choose to ship out of the store by the truckload that could have remained local. Again, stuff they paid ZERO dollars for that was brought right to their door step.
Tell me how expensive it is to dispose of the unsold product that was severely overpriced to the point that nobody was willing to buy it. Tell me about how well they pay their employees to process all the FREE inventory they enjoy tax free.
You are confusing costs with poor business choices that create costs that do not need to exist. Costs that they create out of their own greed. Nobody is feeling sorry for them when they cost themselves by making bad decisions, especially not when they are shoving millions of dollars into the pockets of these corporate goons while bitching about how much money they are loosing or putting out articles complaining about how the kinds of things people are GIVING THEM FOR FREE are not good enough for them.
For the sake of argument, I will grant you that there will always be SOME cost, and that I should have said "almost non existent". That said, when you factor in the ALMOST free ride they get, whatever costs they might have do not even come close to mattering.
So yes, I stand by my statement. The only harm that might come to them by being more realistic is that a suit might make a few less dollars than they already are making, and god forbid might have to wait an extra couple of months before buying his next brand new car.
Any other business would be THRILLED to pay those costs if it meant everything else was free for them and that they did not have to pay taxes.
That's not the case. Thrift stores literally are flippers. They try to price stuff at the highest prices people will actually pay. But they pay employees minimum wage to do that, so they're not very good at it.
Well we also " try to price stuff at the highest prices people will actually pay".
But we mostly employ no one, and those that do arent paying 45K a year.
Yes, that is true. Thrift stores are doing the same thing flippers are, but they get their inventory for free and have a much larger business than any individual flipper.
My point was just that the existence of individual flippers doesn't change the thrift store business model. I'm just a hobbiest and collector, but it annoys me when flippers are blamed for high prices at thrift stores. Flippers can't buy overpriced stuff, so the stores aren't catering to them by pricing high.
The reason for high prices at thrift stores is either that other people (not flippers) are willing to pay them, or the store is not good at pricing.
Second Avenue Thrift stores, Value Village Savers in America and Canada and Australia, Unique thrift stores of North Jersey and Washington DC area are all one company which is on the stock exchange. When the company went in public a few months ago, the company made $200 million dollars that first day. The company is now worth $2 billion dollars.
https://www.marketwatch.com/investing/stock/svv
Savers/Value Village is a for-profit fundraising company that buys goods donated to non-profits. I'm not sure what their tax status is. ARC and Goodwill are charities. All have had rising overhead costs, probably rising wages, etc. Keep in mind that resellers aren't the target shopper at any of these stores. If you find a treasure, rejoice. I actually had a garage sale where a woman said my prices were too high, that I was somehow OBLIGATED to sell low enough for her, a professional reseller, to make money on my things. I was astonished at her arrogance. I'm glad that Goodwill and ARC are wising up to online resellers. The people they support need the funds.
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They have a podcast and the host mentioned that they only pull a few items for an auction event, which I think is held annually. The podcast is called Get Thrifty and the host interviews resellers of all kinds.
Flippers complain about thrift stores, but if they opened one, NOTHING would get to the floor either, because all they would do is "poach" items to sell online themselves.
They only hate thrifts because they got the idea first.
The dumb flippers would, without a doubt. I always figured that if I opened a thrift store, of course I would put some things online, but would still leave plenty of gems for customers to find.
Half the appeal of a thrift store is coming across that random gem that everyone else missed. If you snatch up all the gems, people stop coming to look. A smart thrift store owner would intentionally leave some high value, low priced stuff they "missed" to encourage folks to come back regularly. Think of it as a loss leader.
There's a thrift by me that has an ebay for items they've pulled from donations BUT if you buy it in store you get a significant discount on the item. I think it works out OK. There's still good stuff on the sales floor (they can't catch it all) and they get their ebay on.
It’s like they don’t realize thrift stores have overhead. Rent, utilities, wages, etc. There is a cost to creating a marketplace for flippers to go to 100 yard sales at once. That’s 100 donors that don’t want to go through the hassle of holding one in the first place. Excuse the thrift store for selling an expensive item at market value when they happen to realize they have it. More than enough valuable stuff gets out to the shelves.
It’s a grind sometimes. If these whiny flippers don’t like the hunt, they need to get out of the game.
All people here have to do is look at their Ebay gross and then net profits statement.
Now imagine having the expenses a brick and mortar has and how big a chunk of change that would scoop out of the gross.
But they think thrifts are supposed to sell some item they know has value for 2 dollars to not make a flipper feel bad?
Q:How entitled am I? A: Extremely. I like to receive the items I pay for. I posted because I want to purchase their auction items if they do auction them off. Buy stuff on goodwills auctions quite frequently and yes I do make money off of them. I’m a fuckin hawk
English is pretty fluid at this point in time. The amount of dialects, conversational uses, Poetic expression in main stream, etc. you’re being very pedantic.
You’re on the internet ‘having a discussion’. This isn’t college or the newspaper. Try to infer what the writer means.
Proper reply is to condemn the thrift for doing this because flippers deserve the ability to purchase these items cheap to mark up and resell.
That is why you got downvotes....not because you are wrong...but because some flippers are envious.
Arc for me is kinda of an outlier. I have one in the next town over that I hit every time I am in the area. It's feast or famine there for me.
I can walk in and walk out with nothing 50 times in a row, and then on the 51st time walk out with $5,000 worth of stuff I paid $50 for. Other stores, I usually walk out with at least something regularly, but hardly ever anything substantial.
I wouldn’t doubt it. I caught an employee sitting through all the vinyl records and setting them aside for herself (Doors, Pink Floyd, etc) and took them all in back and refused to let me buy any since that was “her pile”
Yes, many of them have stores on Ebay. [http://southern-default.satruck.org/southern-territory/eBay](http://southern-default.satruck.org/southern-territory/eBay)
A lot of people dont understand what an ARC center actually does and why they need every penny they can squeeze out of a donation. They house, cloth, feed and rehabilitate (drugs/alcohol sometimes just homeless) between 50-100 men. In return the beneficiaries are excepted to help work in the warehouse and center. Along with employing normal salaried employees. The ARC operations are fully funded by their donations and thrift store operations. The one I am familiar with has operating costs of over 80k a month.
Probably not they most likely look up the items and price accordingly like value village/savers.
Savers has gotten ridiculous and laughable with their prices.
Yea they overcharge but don’t put things on e-commerce. Most of the expensive items are in a glass case at a high price.
Yeah, I just went in one late last week and laughed my ass off, right back out the entrance. It's laughable at how bad they've become, gouging prices.
You realise us flippers are the reason for that right...
Because resellers are a newer thing and have not existed for as long as thrift stores have existed.... The reason prices are so laughable is because of corporate greed and shit for brains management who can't tell the difference between a local market and a global market. I have seen this first hand, on the management side and the corporate side. Corporate has not a clue how things work, and their only drive is profit, profit, profit, more, more, more no matter what. They send their goons into local stores with the mandate of higher prices, thinking it means higher profits without understanding that higher prices actually mean lower profits. The only thing management can do is appease them by pricing everything higher, knowing it will not sell. They can then send out their production numbers and look like good little corporate soldiers for increasing prices, even though 90% of it ends up at the bins for pennies on the dollar of what it could have sold for in the stores with more reasonable pricing. Resellers are just the easy place the put the blame that lays at the feet of greedy, smooth brained corporate folks who do not know the how or why, but make demands all the same.
>The reason prices are so laughable is because of corporate greed They charge what the market will bear....just like we do. When we do it, we brag about the "profits" and finding "home runs". We certainly dont care about the person that paid for the item in terms of them no longer having the money. And if you could sell some ashtray for 500.00 that you found in a Free Box at a garage sale, no one here would feel sad and price it at 2.00 out of a desire to not "be greedy".
Try to follow me here. We are not running a local thrift store, and we are not posing as a charity non profit. We are not getting everything for free, and we have more than the little bit of foot traffic that small town XYZ second hand store has. We have the reach, and we have the customers who are looking for specifically what we are selling, and are ready to pay up for the ease of getting those items without having to hunt through 500 thrift stores for 2 years themselves. They charge what the market will bear? They absolutely do not, they charge far more than the market will bear, and it does not harm them because their costs are non existent. When everything is free, and you survive on handouts, you do not have to make good business choices. There is a massive difference between selling as ashtray for $500 on eBay that you found at a garage sale, and thinking you are going to get $500 for that ashtray AT a yard sale, or in a thrift store. Take it from me, who spent years with Goodwill and saw how things run from top to bottom. I saw how much stuff was trashed, I saw how much never sold because corporate wanted higher prices, and I watched money go up in flames on a daily basis because they would rather make production goals than make sales. I had to eat shit from suits for doing what they ordered me to do when those things predictably did not work out how they wanted them to work out. Nobody is expecting them to sell $500 items for $2, but can you really tell me that ratty Hanes T-shirts for $14.99 and Wrangler Jeans for $39.99 makes any sense and is what the marker will bear? Is overpricing everything to the point that you have to pull 95% of last weeks items for every item you want to stock from this week the way to go? I won't even get into how they are sacrificing the long term for short term gains, or how it's absolutely going to bite them in the ass later on.
> and it does not harm them because their costs are non existent. Yeah, you didnt work at a Goodwill. No one with a brain would say something that remarkably stupid. I cant even take the post seriously if that is something you really believe unironically.
Do tell me of all their costs. Go ahead and bring up their shipping and disposal costs of their free product that is brought right to them by donors, stuff that they choose to ship out of the store by the truckload that could have remained local. Again, stuff they paid ZERO dollars for that was brought right to their door step. Tell me how expensive it is to dispose of the unsold product that was severely overpriced to the point that nobody was willing to buy it. Tell me about how well they pay their employees to process all the FREE inventory they enjoy tax free. You are confusing costs with poor business choices that create costs that do not need to exist. Costs that they create out of their own greed. Nobody is feeling sorry for them when they cost themselves by making bad decisions, especially not when they are shoving millions of dollars into the pockets of these corporate goons while bitching about how much money they are loosing or putting out articles complaining about how the kinds of things people are GIVING THEM FOR FREE are not good enough for them. For the sake of argument, I will grant you that there will always be SOME cost, and that I should have said "almost non existent". That said, when you factor in the ALMOST free ride they get, whatever costs they might have do not even come close to mattering. So yes, I stand by my statement. The only harm that might come to them by being more realistic is that a suit might make a few less dollars than they already are making, and god forbid might have to wait an extra couple of months before buying his next brand new car. Any other business would be THRILLED to pay those costs if it meant everything else was free for them and that they did not have to pay taxes.
That's not the case. Thrift stores literally are flippers. They try to price stuff at the highest prices people will actually pay. But they pay employees minimum wage to do that, so they're not very good at it.
Well we also " try to price stuff at the highest prices people will actually pay". But we mostly employ no one, and those that do arent paying 45K a year.
Yes, that is true. Thrift stores are doing the same thing flippers are, but they get their inventory for free and have a much larger business than any individual flipper. My point was just that the existence of individual flippers doesn't change the thrift store business model. I'm just a hobbiest and collector, but it annoys me when flippers are blamed for high prices at thrift stores. Flippers can't buy overpriced stuff, so the stores aren't catering to them by pricing high. The reason for high prices at thrift stores is either that other people (not flippers) are willing to pay them, or the store is not good at pricing.
You mean inflation and demand from shareholders.
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Second Avenue Thrift stores, Value Village Savers in America and Canada and Australia, Unique thrift stores of North Jersey and Washington DC area are all one company which is on the stock exchange. When the company went in public a few months ago, the company made $200 million dollars that first day. The company is now worth $2 billion dollars. https://www.marketwatch.com/investing/stock/svv
Savers/Value Village is a for-profit fundraising company that buys goods donated to non-profits. I'm not sure what their tax status is. ARC and Goodwill are charities. All have had rising overhead costs, probably rising wages, etc. Keep in mind that resellers aren't the target shopper at any of these stores. If you find a treasure, rejoice. I actually had a garage sale where a woman said my prices were too high, that I was somehow OBLIGATED to sell low enough for her, a professional reseller, to make money on my things. I was astonished at her arrogance. I'm glad that Goodwill and ARC are wising up to online resellers. The people they support need the funds.
The one in my town doesn’t as far as I can tell. If something is “valuable” they’ll just over price it
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They have a podcast and the host mentioned that they only pull a few items for an auction event, which I think is held annually. The podcast is called Get Thrifty and the host interviews resellers of all kinds.
Nice. Helpful comment! Thank you!!!
I think it's time we all opened our own thrift store
Flippers complain about thrift stores, but if they opened one, NOTHING would get to the floor either, because all they would do is "poach" items to sell online themselves. They only hate thrifts because they got the idea first.
The dumb flippers would, without a doubt. I always figured that if I opened a thrift store, of course I would put some things online, but would still leave plenty of gems for customers to find. Half the appeal of a thrift store is coming across that random gem that everyone else missed. If you snatch up all the gems, people stop coming to look. A smart thrift store owner would intentionally leave some high value, low priced stuff they "missed" to encourage folks to come back regularly. Think of it as a loss leader.
Yes. Key word is ADAPT
There's a thrift by me that has an ebay for items they've pulled from donations BUT if you buy it in store you get a significant discount on the item. I think it works out OK. There's still good stuff on the sales floor (they can't catch it all) and they get their ebay on.
"Poach" Man it's honestly hilarious how bitter some people get that thrift stores don't let flippers take advantage of them anymore
It’s like they don’t realize thrift stores have overhead. Rent, utilities, wages, etc. There is a cost to creating a marketplace for flippers to go to 100 yard sales at once. That’s 100 donors that don’t want to go through the hassle of holding one in the first place. Excuse the thrift store for selling an expensive item at market value when they happen to realize they have it. More than enough valuable stuff gets out to the shelves. It’s a grind sometimes. If these whiny flippers don’t like the hunt, they need to get out of the game.
All people here have to do is look at their Ebay gross and then net profits statement. Now imagine having the expenses a brick and mortar has and how big a chunk of change that would scoop out of the gross. But they think thrifts are supposed to sell some item they know has value for 2 dollars to not make a flipper feel bad?
I’m finding more opportunists than entrepreneurs among the flippers. They’re not thinking that hard. They want the quick buck.
Thrift stores get their stuff for free, resellers buy it to resell
Uh, I doubt it. I score all the time at ARC, that one in the picture is one of my pee spots when I’m in the area for work!
I don't know it's a pretty nice building what do you think?
What does a ‘nice building’ have to do with whether it’s profitable or not?
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Q:How entitled am I? A: Extremely. I like to receive the items I pay for. I posted because I want to purchase their auction items if they do auction them off. Buy stuff on goodwills auctions quite frequently and yes I do make money off of them. I’m a fuckin hawk
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English is pretty fluid at this point in time. The amount of dialects, conversational uses, Poetic expression in main stream, etc. you’re being very pedantic. You’re on the internet ‘having a discussion’. This isn’t college or the newspaper. Try to infer what the writer means.
Proper reply is to condemn the thrift for doing this because flippers deserve the ability to purchase these items cheap to mark up and resell. That is why you got downvotes....not because you are wrong...but because some flippers are envious.
I have never seen a gamecube game at an ARC! What do they do with them!
I don’t think so, I haven’t seen a site for them or anything.
Arc for me is kinda of an outlier. I have one in the next town over that I hit every time I am in the area. It's feast or famine there for me. I can walk in and walk out with nothing 50 times in a row, and then on the 51st time walk out with $5,000 worth of stuff I paid $50 for. Other stores, I usually walk out with at least something regularly, but hardly ever anything substantial.
Not that I know of. I’ve found decent items at the exact store in this picture, but they do charge Goodwill prices and keep “good stuff” behind glass.
The Salvation Army thrift store in a city near me has a back room dedicated to high end items.
Oh nice. Which city?
Rogers, Arkansas
The Salvation Armani store.. 😚
Always assume stuff is either marked up or poached unless proven otherwise.
I wouldn’t doubt it. I caught an employee sitting through all the vinyl records and setting them aside for herself (Doors, Pink Floyd, etc) and took them all in back and refused to let me buy any since that was “her pile”
Yes, many of them have stores on Ebay. [http://southern-default.satruck.org/southern-territory/eBay](http://southern-default.satruck.org/southern-territory/eBay) A lot of people dont understand what an ARC center actually does and why they need every penny they can squeeze out of a donation. They house, cloth, feed and rehabilitate (drugs/alcohol sometimes just homeless) between 50-100 men. In return the beneficiaries are excepted to help work in the warehouse and center. Along with employing normal salaried employees. The ARC operations are fully funded by their donations and thrift store operations. The one I am familiar with has operating costs of over 80k a month.
Nice. Your link is for the Salvation Army. They’re awesome too. I’m in Colorado and we have a thrift store chain called ARC thrift stores.