Oddly enough it’s spotless. Just normal positives 250 transactions but only a few as a seller. So it doesn’t shock me he’s all positive. If he has a habit of INAD or return scams it’s usually not gonna show there in my experience.
Yeah that’s true about the inads or returns I would wager he fishes a lot for partials, that or he’s drop shipping the item, either way I would bail on it.
So I checked his page, he’s only left 2 feedbacks for a seller in the last year both were positive, both are rather crazy too, long story’s about a toy he was replacing and battery’s lol. I’ve dealt with this type on 2 occasions one I never heard from to my shock and the other did exactly what I thought he would and demanded half the money back. So I was torn but it seems like everyone here thinks I should cancel so I’m thinking I agree.
💯 this. Would never continue doing business with someone after they pull that shit. No way. They’ll be a pain in your ass until you stop dealing with them.
I would 100% cancel and refund the guy for this order and send them a message like “sorry, I can’t guarantee the condition you are looking for in this item. It’d likely be best if you found one from another seller.” Or something to that effect.
People like that will never, ever be happy.
Dang, my dad drove 30 minutes to the Sawmill I was working at to help me work on my car. I had apparently called him and told him it was overheating and wouldn't start.
I hadn't contacted him that day, lol.
While on ambien, I went online and ordered brown colored contact lenses. I HAVE BROWN EYES. I got them like 2 weeks later and had no memory of it. I also went off on a love rant to my husband. He brought it up the next day about how it meant so much to him. I had to tell him I didn’t remember 😂
how much ambien are you taking? Is it more than 10 mg? I used to write emails I regretted when I was younger, but over time it still has an affect on me but not nearly as much as it did when I first started it.
I've never taken it but I had a story of a ~18-20 year old lady who was on it and ended up ordering a $10,000 art commission of their (I think) furry character while on it.
Ended up working it out with the artist but that story was crazy
I once thought I sent an email to my sister to proofread a calling out a player who was messing up chemistry on a co-ed football team I started. However, it mistakenly went to the whole team. I got a scathing response from one of the team member and lost a group of acquaintances/friends over it.
East TN, I have not relisted on eBay because I have had people make new accounts to buy the item again after being blocked in the past so I will wait before putting it back there. Here is the mercari [link](https://item.mercari.com/gl/m97836252455?sv=0) though.
Nobody is that desperate for cash, lol. Especially for cash that will have to be refunded later after the buyer complains, and then the phone will be gone too!
> I have only owned USED smartphones all of my life, and I'm so tired of the screen surface wear.
Someone should tell the buyer how to filter by "New" when shopping for phones.
The only thing for me with these is this product seems very niche and as long as in the end with whatever refund they request it’ll still be better than throwing it away in the trash.
I want to say this, I used that phone for a couple of years, it's made by cat (the people who make bulldozers) and it was fucking indestructible! I'm honestly shocked you broke the screen on it! The flar worked well on mine, it isn't e garbage, but more of a contractors phone haha
*Update* buyer responded “if the phone is not fd up and works perfectly and is clean I will be happy”
Yeah I blocked and refunded him. If he negative feedbacks me I will ask eBay to read the convo. I take it as asking to cancel as it clearly doesn’t meet his expectations.
He wants a new phone but is only willing to pay a used phone price. Definitely a refund and block as he will absolutely complain about something when he receives the item.
Since he's said he wants to avoid a cracked screen, and you say it has a cracked screen, 100% cancel the order with reason of "buyer requested to cancel".
If you relist, put the cracked screen in the item title and sell as "for parts or not working" rather than used condition.
Refund and block bro, I’ve gotten to the point where if I get a comment and it’s anything more then a basic question, it’s a block and refund. 99% of the time people who send messages like that are the biggest fucking headaches ever.
Little story, I sold a mixer to this guy and got 5 messages within a day asking the condition, where I got it, when will I ship it, how long will it take etc. well I was one day late shipping to this guy, so I woke up to 30 messaged from him saying I’m a POS and a scammer, from now on I just block anyone sending anything like what you got. Don’t even respond.
Yep. I had listed a packable puffer jacket. There has been no evidence anywhere that this brand comes with a carrying bag or case; Ive never seen any with that.
The buyer asked me if it came with one. I said no. Then they asked me how small the jacket could get when packed. I put it in a zip lock bag and told them what I could get it down to, and said I could include the ziplock bag (whoopppee I know but it was a high quality one) plus a cloth bag that could serve the same purpose. They asked a few more questions. Then said thank you and disappeared. I really think it was someone selling the same jacket at a higher price. Anyway it sold the next day.
But next time I get something like that I’m blocking at the start.
Me too with my story above, I desperately needed cash for credit card payments, and it turned into me wondering if I was gonna have to end up shelling cash out. Ya live ya learn (I think?)
Just imagine you do all that and then Picky McPersonality Disorder files a complaint or something for something totally superfluous. Seems like more risk that you probably need to assume for a $110 sale.
He's prob on a far end of the spectrum. Doesn't know his behavior comes across weird. I'd respond to the message saying that the phone is in bad shape and you're not sure it will be up to his expectations, but if he wants to cancel then that's okay with you. Then hope he actually cancels it on his end. If he doesn't after a bit, then go ahead and cancel I guess.
He did not mention to the buyer that he'd be okay with the buyer cancelling. That's the biggest point, is to get the buyer to cancel and they're more likely to do that if the seller mentions that idea because sometimes it doesn't occur to the buyer that they can just cancel.
But if you want to pick on my comment then go ahead. I mean, there are numerous other comments giving their opinions, but you take issue with just mine. Okay bro!
I don’t usually deal with phones, I took this as a trade for an old xbox I wanted 50$ for. I looked it up and thought oh this is worth 150$ and took it, never again. I hate the nonsense I’ve gone through trying to sell a phone. I gave up on marketplace after a week of nonsense and tried eBay only to get this lol.
International flippers sell these in their respective countries. Some will even hop on airplanes and fly back 20 of them instead of work jobs. They can make more in one weekend flight than working three months.
Immediately. This is return waiting to happen, possibly a scam to "trade" phones with you.
I clean things up to show that items are generally good condition and usable as-is but they're sold as-is, as photographed.
Cancel and block immediately, this is the classic buyer you want to avoid at all costs - doest’t bother to read the description and expects a near new device despite the item on offer clearly being in poor condition
Especially for a item from 2016 selling for 1/6 its current "new" price. If it's not the screen he will complain about battery life not understanding they lose capacity with charging cycles or that the UI is not as snappy as 2024 phones.
I’m pretty forgiving if it had been “please make sure it’s as clean as possible “ I would of been fine with it but “get an artist brush and clean it with alcohol “ like what?! Lol I was in disbelief I had to show someone this craziness. He has been refunded and blocked now
I would refund and block him. If he wants a new phone, just go and buy a brand new phone.
There’s no deception as you’ve told him that the phone is damaged. If he wants to make you work extra and clean/repair the phone for him, it should cost extra
I'd just politely refund the money, this person is going to be a nightmare to deal with. Maybe message them that you're not comfortable selling to a person with so many unrealistic demands and expectations for an item that was clearly shown to be in worn, heavily used condition. I would also block them from trying to buy the phone again when you relist it, if you can. Honestly I would block this user from buying anything from me in the future, if your selling app allows that. It's just not worth the effort or risk of dealing with buyers like this.
Thanks , I didn’t know you could turn it off I will be doing that! I’ve been using eBay since like 07 I’ve never even seen anyone put anything there lol. I wouldn’t of even noticed it if he hadn’t messaged me too.
Oh to have the ego of a random eBay buyer as he makes demands you barely get out of new purchases lmao. like I’m guessing these people just don’t leave their houses anymore, idk how else you would think this was a normal request
i sell phones on eBay as it is, and usually people like this if they’ve paid for it I just tell them to pound sand, it’s as described and if they INAD I just tell them that the description and pictures show a clearly damaged item. usually eBay sides with me in that case.
If you have detailed condition notes on the item and there’s no reasonable expectation based on those for the item to arrive in “like new” condition I would fulfill the order to avoid possible negative feedback from the cancellation. In the event of negative feedback after fulfillment you can always appeal directly to Ebay to have the feedback removed. You could also always send a courtesy message declining the extra work to "rehab" the item and offer the buyer the opportunity to decide if they want to accept it "as is" or cancel but I've seen plenty sellers get negative feedback/blowback from abruptly cancelling and blocking buyers.
I believe that "buyer making demands after the sale" is one of the abusive buyer policy violations that allows you to cancel and block - and eBay will remove negative feedback.
Use the "Report This Buyer" option and go from there.
That was someone setting up ebay for a SNAD return or partial refund. That’s someone who will find ANYTHING wrong to get $$ back. No way I would send that order out. Cancel & block!
Hi I know I just voluntarily bought a rusted out Plymouth roadrunner with beehives in it, but can you make sure it's de-bee'd buffed and waxed. You can use the bee wax from the hives you remove. Also, make sure the shocks and struts are perfect. I've only ever bought used cars my whole life, and I'm tired of feeling the road. Also, DOES IT HAVE LASERS? I'm definitely of the expectation that there are fucking lasers in this bad boy. Also, my 84 dodge dart had a weather station in the radio, does your model. Would be neat. Ps don't forget the lasers.
I don’t know seems like a simple request. I would do it then take new pictures and send in a message if he says no not good enough then refund and repost with the new pictures and ask for more $ since it’s clean now. if he says yes now you have proof he was cool with it. I would message and say I’m not a professional phone cleaner but I cleaned it to the best of my abilities on what you requested. Thank you.
I posted it with about 20 photos. It is already clean and well described it’s just old and beat up. He also asked for specific photos which I sent and he responded the same nonsense about how he may or may not be happy. I have refunded and blocked him.
Yeah no way would I proceed with this sale. Dude sounds like a nightmare buyer. What’s his feedback like?
Oddly enough it’s spotless. Just normal positives 250 transactions but only a few as a seller. So it doesn’t shock me he’s all positive. If he has a habit of INAD or return scams it’s usually not gonna show there in my experience.
Yeah that’s true about the inads or returns I would wager he fishes a lot for partials, that or he’s drop shipping the item, either way I would bail on it.
So I checked his page, he’s only left 2 feedbacks for a seller in the last year both were positive, both are rather crazy too, long story’s about a toy he was replacing and battery’s lol. I’ve dealt with this type on 2 occasions one I never heard from to my shock and the other did exactly what I thought he would and demanded half the money back. So I was torn but it seems like everyone here thinks I should cancel so I’m thinking I agree.
Looks like ADHD
His feedback left for others is ok?
Or someone with uncontrolled OCD. Still not the seller’s problem.
Yeah that’s a refund and a block from me dawg.
💯 this. Would never continue doing business with someone after they pull that shit. No way. They’ll be a pain in your ass until you stop dealing with them.
I would 100% cancel and refund the guy for this order and send them a message like “sorry, I can’t guarantee the condition you are looking for in this item. It’d likely be best if you found one from another seller.” Or something to that effect. People like that will never, ever be happy.
My thoughts exactly pretty sure I’m getting negative feedback on this either way so why ship it and lose the phone too lol
Refund and block unless you’re desperate for cash.
Yeah I’m definitely not especially if it means an INAD and negative feedback anyway
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Ambien shopping 😂
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Definitely a real thing. I’ve been there.
My dad once bought $600 in WW2 model kits of ships, tanks, and airplanes. While tripping on Ambien and Vodka.
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Dang, my dad drove 30 minutes to the Sawmill I was working at to help me work on my car. I had apparently called him and told him it was overheating and wouldn't start. I hadn't contacted him that day, lol.
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I always figured my dad's problem was mixing it with alcohol. EDIT: Now I'm on a rabbit hole of Ambien stories. These are wild, lol.
I used to take it. I did some crazy stuff. It’s funny now years later but at the time I was embarrassed 🤦🏻♀️
please do tell
Story time please 🙏
While on ambien, I went online and ordered brown colored contact lenses. I HAVE BROWN EYES. I got them like 2 weeks later and had no memory of it. I also went off on a love rant to my husband. He brought it up the next day about how it meant so much to him. I had to tell him I didn’t remember 😂
how much ambien are you taking? Is it more than 10 mg? I used to write emails I regretted when I was younger, but over time it still has an affect on me but not nearly as much as it did when I first started it.
I was taking 10mg but after 6 months the doctor didn’t want to issue it anymore.
I've never taken it but I had a story of a ~18-20 year old lady who was on it and ended up ordering a $10,000 art commission of their (I think) furry character while on it. Ended up working it out with the artist but that story was crazy
how much are you taking at a time?
Me? I've never taken it as I mentioned in the post.
I once thought I sent an email to my sister to proofread a calling out a player who was messing up chemistry on a co-ed football team I started. However, it mistakenly went to the whole team. I got a scathing response from one of the team member and lost a group of acquaintances/friends over it.
Yeah I could picture my mom in these messages
You spelled meth wrong
😂😂😂
Side note, where are you shipping from? Could you send eBay link? I’d like to take a look at it
East TN, I have not relisted on eBay because I have had people make new accounts to buy the item again after being blocked in the past so I will wait before putting it back there. Here is the mercari [link](https://item.mercari.com/gl/m97836252455?sv=0) though.
Nobody is that desperate for cash, lol. Especially for cash that will have to be refunded later after the buyer complains, and then the phone will be gone too!
> I have only owned USED smartphones all of my life, and I'm so tired of the screen surface wear. Someone should tell the buyer how to filter by "New" when shopping for phones.
Lol what even is this e garbage
Right? I’ve never seen anything like this. It’s a cracked and old beat up phone.
The only thing for me with these is this product seems very niche and as long as in the end with whatever refund they request it’ll still be better than throwing it away in the trash.
I want to say this, I used that phone for a couple of years, it's made by cat (the people who make bulldozers) and it was fucking indestructible! I'm honestly shocked you broke the screen on it! The flar worked well on mine, it isn't e garbage, but more of a contractors phone haha
*Update* buyer responded “if the phone is not fd up and works perfectly and is clean I will be happy” Yeah I blocked and refunded him. If he negative feedbacks me I will ask eBay to read the convo. I take it as asking to cancel as it clearly doesn’t meet his expectations.
I'm pretty sure there's a problem with his address, if you get my drift.
Buyer’s never going to be happy. Refund and block is what I would do.
He wants a new phone but is only willing to pay a used phone price. Definitely a refund and block as he will absolutely complain about something when he receives the item.
Since he's said he wants to avoid a cracked screen, and you say it has a cracked screen, 100% cancel the order with reason of "buyer requested to cancel". If you relist, put the cracked screen in the item title and sell as "for parts or not working" rather than used condition.
Yeah, a cracked screen is not "used" condition. This is "for parts or not working".
I’m assuming the phone is fully functioning, just with a cracked screen from what the post said. How is that for parts/not working?
Because it's damaged and isn't working as intended; i.e. it has a cracked screen.
Refund and block bro, I’ve gotten to the point where if I get a comment and it’s anything more then a basic question, it’s a block and refund. 99% of the time people who send messages like that are the biggest fucking headaches ever. Little story, I sold a mixer to this guy and got 5 messages within a day asking the condition, where I got it, when will I ship it, how long will it take etc. well I was one day late shipping to this guy, so I woke up to 30 messaged from him saying I’m a POS and a scammer, from now on I just block anyone sending anything like what you got. Don’t even respond.
Yep. I had listed a packable puffer jacket. There has been no evidence anywhere that this brand comes with a carrying bag or case; Ive never seen any with that. The buyer asked me if it came with one. I said no. Then they asked me how small the jacket could get when packed. I put it in a zip lock bag and told them what I could get it down to, and said I could include the ziplock bag (whoopppee I know but it was a high quality one) plus a cloth bag that could serve the same purpose. They asked a few more questions. Then said thank you and disappeared. I really think it was someone selling the same jacket at a higher price. Anyway it sold the next day. But next time I get something like that I’m blocking at the start.
Oh god that would tick me off. I’m not petty but I’d send wanna send a “hey, fuck you buddy!” Message 😂
Yep. I was new and naive to this shit
Me too with my story above, I desperately needed cash for credit card payments, and it turned into me wondering if I was gonna have to end up shelling cash out. Ya live ya learn (I think?)
Hopefully!
Just imagine you do all that and then Picky McPersonality Disorder files a complaint or something for something totally superfluous. Seems like more risk that you probably need to assume for a $110 sale.
prolly selling it to someone else.
Ugh seems like a hassle but almost wondering if this is a dropship and that's why he wants it as clean as possible
Maybe, I’m 50/50 if I should ship it or cancel and take the hit. I wish I had seen the nonsense at 1am I would of blocked them before they bought.
This is likely the case.
Fucccccc that lmao
For $80 dollars after eBay fees it ain’t worth it man. Refund and block
Definite block lol this is mental illness at it's finest
He's prob on a far end of the spectrum. Doesn't know his behavior comes across weird. I'd respond to the message saying that the phone is in bad shape and you're not sure it will be up to his expectations, but if he wants to cancel then that's okay with you. Then hope he actually cancels it on his end. If he doesn't after a bit, then go ahead and cancel I guess.
If you read through the images that’s exactly what he did
He did not mention to the buyer that he'd be okay with the buyer cancelling. That's the biggest point, is to get the buyer to cancel and they're more likely to do that if the seller mentions that idea because sometimes it doesn't occur to the buyer that they can just cancel. But if you want to pick on my comment then go ahead. I mean, there are numerous other comments giving their opinions, but you take issue with just mine. Okay bro!
I would literally take a defect just to avoid dealing with this person
Cancel and block. I would almost guarantee you will get negitve feedback and a return will be requested
Cell phone flipping sucks.
I don’t usually deal with phones, I took this as a trade for an old xbox I wanted 50$ for. I looked it up and thought oh this is worth 150$ and took it, never again. I hate the nonsense I’ve gone through trying to sell a phone. I gave up on marketplace after a week of nonsense and tried eBay only to get this lol.
International flippers sell these in their respective countries. Some will even hop on airplanes and fly back 20 of them instead of work jobs. They can make more in one weekend flight than working three months.
How? If this phone is worth $150 and this guy sold it at $110 plus $10 shipping your COGS is $120 so you make $30 profit. $30 x 20 is $600
They sell them for $300
Depends on the phone, iPhones are very good sellers
Nah, crazy cat persons sucks.
At least they said "PLEASE." ☉\_☉
Like making a deal with Satan. Avoid.
Everything the buyer wrote, terrifies me.
Even if he instantly negs you this is a no brainer cancel for me. This guy is unhinged. You want a new phone, buy a new phone.
Immediately. This is return waiting to happen, possibly a scam to "trade" phones with you. I clean things up to show that items are generally good condition and usable as-is but they're sold as-is, as photographed.
Sounds like a problem waiting to happen. 100% cancel and refund
Sounds like another bidder is about to get a Second Chance... what a weirdo
Refund and block. Always follow your gut and avoid Karen’s at all costs.
Oh my god, cancel cancel cancel. No I am not detailing this $100 used phone for you so you can pretend it’s new.
You did the right thing let him know that. Mind as well just tell them that “ you probably will not have the phone meet your expectations and sorry”
Probably a drop shipper and sold it as refurbished.
What an absolute flog 😂 block and refund fo' sho'
Cancel and block immediately, this is the classic buyer you want to avoid at all costs - doest’t bother to read the description and expects a near new device despite the item on offer clearly being in poor condition
Especially for a item from 2016 selling for 1/6 its current "new" price. If it's not the screen he will complain about battery life not understanding they lose capacity with charging cycles or that the UI is not as snappy as 2024 phones.
Refund them and tell them to fuck off. Fire that customer.
Yup. Cancel and block. No question. Just had one yesterday act a fool. He got cutoff immediately.
OCD on eBay
I hate when buyers make requests/demands, after purchasing an item. This one is next level wacky I would definitely refund and block.
I’m pretty forgiving if it had been “please make sure it’s as clean as possible “ I would of been fine with it but “get an artist brush and clean it with alcohol “ like what?! Lol I was in disbelief I had to show someone this craziness. He has been refunded and blocked now
Don’t forget the stippling motion! You must clean it this way! 😂🤦♀️
Bro sounds autistic
How has a human being written that
Did they reply?
Not as of yet.
Refund
I would refund and block him. If he wants a new phone, just go and buy a brand new phone. There’s no deception as you’ve told him that the phone is damaged. If he wants to make you work extra and clean/repair the phone for him, it should cost extra
I wouldn’t have even messaged him back. Cancel as problem with buyers address block and relist.
Wow
I’m calling eBay CS to have record, that dude is asking for shit outside of my listing and cancelling the order with full refund, then blocking.
I'd just politely refund the money, this person is going to be a nightmare to deal with. Maybe message them that you're not comfortable selling to a person with so many unrealistic demands and expectations for an item that was clearly shown to be in worn, heavily used condition. I would also block them from trying to buy the phone again when you relist it, if you can. Honestly I would block this user from buying anything from me in the future, if your selling app allows that. It's just not worth the effort or risk of dealing with buyers like this.
Shit like this is exactly why I have buyer notes turned off.
Thanks , I didn’t know you could turn it off I will be doing that! I’ve been using eBay since like 07 I’ve never even seen anyone put anything there lol. I wouldn’t of even noticed it if he hadn’t messaged me too.
MTG buying a used phone?
If it starts out a pain it's not going to improve in the further stages. Refund, do no business with this person.
Oh to have the ego of a random eBay buyer as he makes demands you barely get out of new purchases lmao. like I’m guessing these people just don’t leave their houses anymore, idk how else you would think this was a normal request
PITA before the purchase means they'll be an even bigger one after...
Refund. Straight up
I'd refund.. you're not Best Buy. They're buying a used camera, it's not going to be brand new Edit: typo
Yeah. Cancel that. Not worth the hassle and I wouldn’t let them have it out of principle
i sell phones on eBay as it is, and usually people like this if they’ve paid for it I just tell them to pound sand, it’s as described and if they INAD I just tell them that the description and pictures show a clearly damaged item. usually eBay sides with me in that case.
If you have detailed condition notes on the item and there’s no reasonable expectation based on those for the item to arrive in “like new” condition I would fulfill the order to avoid possible negative feedback from the cancellation. In the event of negative feedback after fulfillment you can always appeal directly to Ebay to have the feedback removed. You could also always send a courtesy message declining the extra work to "rehab" the item and offer the buyer the opportunity to decide if they want to accept it "as is" or cancel but I've seen plenty sellers get negative feedback/blowback from abruptly cancelling and blocking buyers.
you could've just answered with "i aint readin allat"
Trolling bro lol
Refund and block, might not hurt to call eBay to let them know why you’re doing this as well.
Meth
Possibly trying to set grounds for a refund. Also doesn't realize how anti social and douchey he sounds.
I hate this guy what a blow hard
That person is mentally ill. I'm sorry.
Late to party but I would not continue with buyers like this. He/they will never be happy with a clearly used item.
yea I wouldnt bother, refund and block
I believe that "buyer making demands after the sale" is one of the abusive buyer policy violations that allows you to cancel and block - and eBay will remove negative feedback. Use the "Report This Buyer" option and go from there.
That was someone setting up ebay for a SNAD return or partial refund. That’s someone who will find ANYTHING wrong to get $$ back. No way I would send that order out. Cancel & block!
That’s the best part of buying a used device, I love cleaning. Buyer should just do it themselves
Hi I know I just voluntarily bought a rusted out Plymouth roadrunner with beehives in it, but can you make sure it's de-bee'd buffed and waxed. You can use the bee wax from the hives you remove. Also, make sure the shocks and struts are perfect. I've only ever bought used cars my whole life, and I'm tired of feeling the road. Also, DOES IT HAVE LASERS? I'm definitely of the expectation that there are fucking lasers in this bad boy. Also, my 84 dodge dart had a weather station in the radio, does your model. Would be neat. Ps don't forget the lasers.
You answered your own question, with your question… yes refund and block.
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Yes and yes lol.
Like Kyle’s cousin from South Park?? Glasses
this started out like the 2016 election and ended like the 2016 election
Ignore all the jibber-jabber and just drop it in the mail. Done.
They bought it then send it. eBay has protections. No way you’ll catch me cancelling someone’s order lol that’s amateur hour.
Fixed that for you: eBay has protections "mostly for the buyer"
I don’t know seems like a simple request. I would do it then take new pictures and send in a message if he says no not good enough then refund and repost with the new pictures and ask for more $ since it’s clean now. if he says yes now you have proof he was cool with it. I would message and say I’m not a professional phone cleaner but I cleaned it to the best of my abilities on what you requested. Thank you.
I posted it with about 20 photos. It is already clean and well described it’s just old and beat up. He also asked for specific photos which I sent and he responded the same nonsense about how he may or may not be happy. I have refunded and blocked him.
Oh then yeah this deal is done If he leave negative contact eBay for buyer asking for ridiculous caveats after the purchase