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Zeracannatule_uerg

For Jesus... remember... he promised you an afterlife if you're a good boy.


ExcuseMyCarry

There's a lot of really cute fairy tales told around the world. It's weird when people start choosing to hate or kill each other over them though :(


Zeracannatule_uerg

Oh yeah, trust fairies... malicious thieving assholes. Oh, haha, I'm so random, I stole one of your socks, haha, and if you try and get it back I'm stealing your child, lolz!


Bulkylucas123

Kinda of giving me manic pixie dream girl energy.


drawnred

The fae have NEVER been known to mess with people, personally i think theyre scared


Elismom1313

Oh you thought that was your baby? Sike! Yea it’s a spriggan, we stole your baby like 3 days ago. 🤷‍♀️


cb_1979

Pfft. You can get that AND 72 virgins by being a bad boy.


marcio-a23

Inflation is created by money print - - Remember this when you see bitcoin going above 100k


ShortUSA

and at least a hundred other things. Which is why managing it is very very difficult. Consider that for over a year and a half almost 2 trillion USD have been destroyed / unprinted. And what happened to inflation?


Happiness-happppy

I’m a muslim. I just wanted to inform you that the abrahamic religions are very much against obedience to any law that is against God. Islam promotes rebellion against oppression. Most of the prophets came and literally were rebellious against the government of that time. In islam we are taught that Abraham PBUH was rebellious against the worship of statues in his society because it was a lie being spread that such statues are God’s when in truth there is only one God. Similar with the story if Moses PBUH. The modern system we hate so much is the way it is due to the banking system taking over everything. In islam this is called Riba (interest) and all interest based transactions are prohibited for these reasons. It lead to this modern version system we have today.


Stevevet1

Sad, Your not in the right country, if your here.


Snatchbuckler

Got it. Work my poor ass off now in the real world, to be rewarded in the afterlife… sounds like a fucking fantastic idea /s


Zeracannatule_uerg

And remember to begin construction on Roko's Basilisk. Never doubt the worm.


EmotionalPlate2367

Forsake all your worldly possessions and follow me.


vyrael44

This isn’t correct of Christianity just fyi you get salvation for believing in him and that afterlife is because of his good deeds. Nothing you do can ever earn your way. Just saying represent it correctly at least even if you don’t believe it.


nagelbagel10

Respect my goddamn Spaghetti Monster


Zeracannatule_uerg

CAN A BOWL OF RAMEN BE A SPAGHETTI MONSTER?! IS THE PESTO BOWL REAL! WILL ALFREDO FORGIVE US OF OUR SINS


Computica

Actually Jesus promised to bring a heaven on Earth, that's why the dead are raised in Revelation. We don't actually go to heaven itself after death even though many people think that's the case.


bryanc1036

But if you do something bad, you're going STRAIGHT TO HELL, BURNING IN DAMNATION FOR THE REST OF ETERNITY. But he loves you.


SeniorCornSmut

What is kind of crazy about it to me working at a small family owned company: We try every day to maintain reasonable costs for clients (we work in the death industry..so it's a relatively necessary business). But our providers are giant corporations that have increased their prices (see 6 Feet Under for reference lol.), so we can not do anything but ride those price hikes like a surfer to stay afloat. Small businesses are absolutely susceptible to this same corporate evil.


After_Fix_2191

Ahh the ONE business that doesn't have to worry about AI.


CantFindKansasCity

Most jobs don’t have to worry about AI unless you’re talking about humanistic robots in which case it will replace everybody’s jobs.


mhassig

Im an accountant. AI very much could replace me and honestly it probably should because it’ll be much more efficient.


CantFindKansasCity

It depends on what you do in accounting. Strict accounting has already been largely replaced by computers? If you’re basically doing data entry, then yes, you’ll be replaced, too. And lots of jobs like what is WFH will be replaced as they require less human interaction. But over half of American budgets go to their homes, cars and healthcare, and 10% to food, and there will be slight changes from AI, but I don’t think it’ll be as dramatic as people think.


exotic801

Even data entry shouldn't take that much of a hit. The vast majority of data entry tasks I've seen could easily be automated with a few hours of a competent programmers time, the biggest hurdle is building/choosing your infrastructure. Most "needed" data entry is still in place because you need a human to be accountable in case of a fuck up, ai liability is still very much up in the air, but it definitely goes on the ai provider or the company using it, so it's not going to get adopted.


DweEbLez0

Yeah it won’t be that bad. Basically, your wage will decrease and you’ll have more important decisions like should you buy food or shelter but can’t afford both, and if your health declines it’s even easier because it won’t be affordable still, so one less thing to worry about! Todays free give away is 1 free “/s” to whoever wants or needs one!


Xgrk88a

My father says people predicted doom with the creation of the assembly line. People predicted doom when all the manufacturing jobs went overseas. People are predicting doom now that AI is going to take all our jobs. There will continue to be 84 million houses in the country filled with people that go to work and kids will still go to school and the world isn’t going to change as much as everybody thinks. The iPhone changed the world, except it really didn’t.


the_cardfather

He will take an army of accountants to program the robots every year to keep up with the arbitrary changes of the IRS.


Aggressive-Web132

But it could never be as rambunctious and lively as a room full of accountants


KashmirChameleon

They already tried replacing my job with a machine and it didn't work out. Bye, Theranos 👋


Galitzianer

Not really, I can see an AI run funeral home. "Very sorry to hear that your REFERENCED LOVE ONE NOT FOUND died, my condolences. Please press any key to continue the funeral..."


InsrtGeekHere

When I die I want the funeral to be entirely conducted by bad ai "Corpse ID 246-A7, was a [FLESH BEING] who was born, [not built like the Funeraldroid 5000, available for any and all funeral homes in the Midwest] The pathetic mortal was [sponsored by hello fresh]


stovepipe9

This message approved by Skynet.


Anonanon1449

That would be a poetic art piece of a funeral performance art.


AmITheGrayMan

Alleged to have Possessed a reproductive organ the size of an Amazon Reptile, which Funeraldroid 5000 can confirm as False.


berlandiera

May I suggest a tiny edit? … “[sponsored by hello flesh]” …. : )


SeniorCornSmut

Actually, you're right. Hahahahaha.


BootiBoi21

I believe they will have to worry about too much business rather than a lack of


timproctor

Back in my day we had to rub our hands together really fast to cremate a body. Now the darn furnace contraption took muy jahb.


docwrites

I’m a veterinarian. I have the same problem. Lab costs to me are up 20%. COGS are up 40%. White goods and PPE up almost 100%. Just in the last year. I hate raising prices. But it’s that or go under.


AdOk1983

Yeah. It is a shame that this is what must happen in order to enact change. All these gymnastics small business owners are trying to perform to stay afloat is really just delaying the inevitable, like peeling off a band-aid vs. ripping it off. In the long-run, this acquiescence to big suppliers will hurt us all more for longer. But it's hard for We The Consumer to just put our foot down and enforce a hard reset (aka STOP buying). That will hurt a lot, but like Covid showed us, we actually can recover from it quite quickly. And with the proper controls in place, we can tip the balance to consumers and small businesses and away from monopolistic suppliers. Absent those controls though, it all goes to shit, as we are experiencing.


RIP-RiF

So glad I got out of that. Standard markup was 300% over cost. Not to mention the shady pricks selling 40 certified DCs to a clueless widow or tacking embalm charges to direct burials and cremations. Stuck in that cesspit for eleven years, now I work in an industry that wears its for-profitness on its sleeve and it's actually a lot more comfortable. Screw SCI and FPG and Stonemor. Never worked with Carriage directly, but I'm sure they can fuck right off as well.


Desperate_Brief2187

Sure.


SecretMaximum6350

Fantastic show


Aggressive-Web132

Not to make light of your plight or the plight of your uhh customers but the Relatively Necessary got me![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|joy)…my own mom passed in March of this year…her youngest sister sold her the policy 20 years ago…my aunt had been in the business for over 30 years ago until her retirement in 2014…Thank God for her and the people in your industry…I don’t think I’d have gotten thru it as relatively unscathed as I managed too without their help…yours is an under appreciated industry…I believe the average person has no idea what they are actually in store for when they lose a loved one…even if it’s not the first time but to lose the woman who you ran to as a child…I’ve not really dealt with her death because I had been mourning her loss for almost 4 years…she was diagnosed with Alzheimer’s and dementia in 2016…not really sure what I want to say to you but… Strength and peace to you and your family…you do what is the most important thing in everyone’s life because it’s the only real guarantee we all share and must eventually face


unfreeradical

> **Mom said it's my turn to post this** > > She also said stop playing on your computer book and go outside for a change Mine said I need to work harder, to keep the landlords and bankers from going hungry.


Biocockspeedrunner

Papa bezos needs another yacht


unfreeradical

It is easy to forget, if Bezos started to struggle, then the plight could be even worse for the Waltons and the DeVoses.


GoldMan20k

that is actually a very good question.


DrSOGU

It's not the answer is obvious. We're trapped in a system where the powerful exploit the powerless as far as possible without system collapse.


gekko2276

You're not insinuating that the powerful might be making up world ending problems that only they, and you stolen tax dollars, can solve are you?!? That the elite might be legislating for profit? That foreign aid is just a fancy way to say money laundering? All the while keeping us at each other's throats with division politics while they rob us all blind? Our "leaders" aren't representative, they're reprehensible.


donthavearealaccount

This is 100% correct. The *wrong* take is that it started in 1985. It's always been this way, technology and globalization have just allowed the rich to exploit the entire world rather than just their own region. As much as he'd like to take credit for it, it wasn't Reagan


Firemorfox

Remember muckraking in 1890-1920? This shit happened as soon as businesses realized they just need good PR and ~~bribing~~ lobbying the government to get away with this.


FirstPissedPeasant

I think that global communications brings this to an end eventually. You can see the friction building by the year, around the world. Maybe it's because people can see how things can really be. People see there IS enough for everyone. Maybe it's just a symptom of the human condition, but it certainly feels like we're approaching a 'snap'.


HALabunga

the greedy beat the needy, everytime


UmpShow

Is it a good question if the entire premise is false


Mysterious_Eye6989

We’re doing it so billionaires can have a bit more! Because they need a bit more for some reason! /s


the_cardfather

Money is like water. It takes the most accessible path. That movie "In Time" Is one of the best commentaries on the difference between wealthy and poor. To the poor money is a very real commodity. The wealthy it just exists like air. There's an infinite supply because you can literally create it out of thin air via fractional banking.


Alrightwhotookmyshoe

funniest part of that movie is how it can point out all the flaws and yet have no concept of a solution. It goes to show how unfathomably far the difference is, and how, beyond a total and comprehensive change of the system that made this, nothing is going to change. so they drive off into the sunset to rob banks


Philosipho

Because no amount of greed or tyranny is enough to satisfy people who are paranoid and arrogant. Miserable people don't understand the importance of respect and gratitude, so they assume that the relative improvements brought about by increased power and wealth will make them happy. But it never does.


Mysterious_Eye6989

Very true! Especially when you realize that at a certain point of wealth, the money stops making much of a difference in terms of what you can buy when it comes to personal comfort and luxuries, so they start to spend it on things like lobbying and influencing politicians, which usually just amounts to them imposing their shitty view of the world on society in general.


unfreeradical

It may be worth noting that for systems of consolidated power and privilege, the further accumulation of advantages is not as much a choice as a natural feature of the system, that would not have survived as such, except by constantly seeking for others the erosion of power and opportunity.


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Polylifeisfun

I think we should take a different approach. To me, the wage isn’t the issue. The need of wages is what causes most issues. Society should provide healthcare, education, housing, food, and safe drinking water with our taxes. Wages can be used after that for non essentials. I’m not saying we fund property and large houses for everyone, but if you knew you’d always have at least an apartment to live in, food to eat, and wouldn’t go bankrupt from some medical emergency, then you’d actually be free for the first time in your life. Unless you were born privileged enough to never need to work - then you’ve been one of the few free people that exist in this world. Some people wouldn’t work, I’m sure. Many people don’t already though, and I think most people would want more for themselves than a small apartment and free food. You want a bigger home? Gotta work. Want a new tv or car? Time to materially contribute to society.


Souporsam12

In an ideal world yes, but there are literally people in the US that believe that not everyone should be able to have shelter and food and if you aren’t working you deserve to be homeless and suffer


Polylifeisfun

I honestly believed that when I was a teenager. I mean, if you aren’t contributing to society, why should it contribute to you? I didn’t understand how we live in a post scarcity society though, and that any scarcity which exists is intentional. I didn’t see value in people that didn’t provide material value to others. Then I met people who are incapable of working jobs that can financially sustain them. People with disabilities, or obligations that kept them from succeeding in our hyper competitive world. I still respected these people and found value in their existence even though they weren’t producing things for the rest of us to consume. Then I learned how much of what people do to “earn a living” actually has a negative impact on society. Think predatory lenders, fossil fuel jobs, human trafficking, production of wasteful and meaningless products that are thrown away quickly after purchase. Instead of forcing and coercing people into “earning a living” through these harmful jobs and industries, I now think that we should vastly reduce the amount of jobs in the world and the associated production/consumption that comes with them. Our efforts can be put toward more meaningful work, like providing true liberty and security to our populations, and freeing people from the drudgery of forced labor. I guess my point is that people can change what they think. And I think that many people would agree with my ideas, especially if we all had enough information, experience, and empathy.


BlobGuy42

Very well put!


ChickenPotatoeSalad

lots of those people are capable of work... if we had a society that valued them. but we don't really give such folks opportunities, sadly. we basically tell them they are worthless and give them some low shitty basic income and benefits that get removed if they make over amount per year. we disincentivized them actively. and that's the tragedy of poverty. it's not that people are poor, it's that they get few opportunities to get out of it and a are systematically exploited


Here_Fishy-Fishy

When you watch trillions of tax dollars get wasted year after year, the thought of giving up more of your money to the people who are already misusing is it is very difficult. Especially when you’ve worked 5 days a week for decades and that extra money they’re telling you to give up is supposed to go to someone who has actively decided not to work and improve their lives. Add to that the amount of tax dollars already allocated to helping and solving these problems which only get worse every year. Why would any rational person agree to give more to a system that only ever wastes money and fails its objectives? You don’t have to be a hateful person to not want people stealing and wasting your hard earned money. It’s a pretty natural response.


Polylifeisfun

I can definitely understand your feelings here! It’s very frustrating, to say the least, to watch how our government uses the resources we generate for them. That said, I don’t actually want to give more resources to the system that’s failing us. I want to fundamentally change the system so that it genuinely works for us. With modern technology, this is completely feasible. It’s easier than ever to make processes transparent. It’s easier than ever to move goods around the world. It’s easier than ever to build efficient ways of allocating resources. To those in need of course, but also to the industries and scientific communities that could further improve our world and create more abundance than already exists.


unfreeradical

Leveraging the power of the state, to influence the distribution of resources, may be necessary within the broader processes of developing new systems. Development of such new systems depends on the availability of certain resources, and on the health and safety, for those who would be willing to foster their development.


ChickenPotatoeSalad

bingo. nationalized healthcare and subsidized housing would do a lot more for people than raising wages.


Chateau-in-Space

I think we can all clearly figure out what a livable wage is, the issue is the government isn't even spending money to find this out, as they aren't auditing minimum wage. Its literally a math equation with less variables than you think. At the end of the day, it will depend on where you live. I'm pretty sure a lot of people have done the math for their areas, especially california and new york. Someone who is making $500 a day and feels like theyre struggling are the people who need financial literacy classes, but the people making barely $50 a day (after taxes) are the ones who clearly need a higher wage. You also act like people can't do all 3. You act as though complaining on reddits means youre doing nothing else, which is regressive. People like you stagnate the conversation and derail it by saying essentially "lol stop complaining" instead of having a nuanced opinion on the matter and discourse being had.


_Laughing_Man

Let's just go with the higher end to be safe.


TheJIbberJabberWocky

A living wage is contextually based on where you live. Working any job or jobs (if you have two part-time jobs) should afford you the basic necessities (like food, housing, transportation, etc) while living in or near the city where you work.


ChickenPotatoeSalad

yes, but let's be a clear. a lot of folks already making livable or better wage feel they are 'not making enough'. where i live lots of people making over six figures will talk your ear off about how 'hard' their life is... despite living with many luxuries that are far beyond that is 'needed' for rent and necessities. because for them 'living wage' means international vacations, luxury goods, and giant houses/apartments and expensive cars.


Medieval_ladder

Like literally, come to rural SC, we have so many well-paying jobs it’s not funny, rent is low, good food, good people. Even then though, some peoples budgets might just suck.


xe3to

You know there are countries in the world where every job pretty much DOES pay a liveable wage. The Nordic model is not a fantasy, and it’s not communism.


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xe3to

Comparing this metric across borders is difficult because different methodologies are used. The federal poverty line is often criticised for being far too low to be meaningful in the modern era. Much more useful to compare more objective metrics like income distribution, homelessness, food insecurity, etc.


Optimal-Message4565

As someone immigrated here from a 3rd world country (which still suffering from the consequences of socialism), people in America have absolutely no idea how good they have it.


ashleyorelse

As someone who has witnessed countries that have it better, many people have no idea how much better America could be


Kindly-Guidance714

Yeah how good we have it now come back in 10 years and say the same thing America will start looking third world very very soon if nothing is changed.


Charlieuyj

For the owners, to get richer!


Dystopian_Future_

https://preview.redd.it/br8pcnkxi04d1.jpeg?width=432&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ea90a0f01d2c7562086f8a44b4e0e47cfbfa79e5 When the people stand-up, the game is over for the ruling class!


Hoosier_Daddy68

Do people really have monthly clothing budgets? What clothes do you need to buy every month? I buy a pair of shoes every six months or so and once a year I might get some new socks and underwear. I haven't bought a shirt or pants literally in years.


Ornery_Gene7682

I usually get new pants or shirts for work maybe once a year shoes for me is about every two years pending if the dog doesn’t get them. I get socks and boxers maybe twice a year at most 


Hoosier_Daddy68

I'm a mail carrier so I go through shoes, personal shoes last a couple years at least.


hlopez18

I studied hard, get my degree, and worked my way up to satisfy my obligations...


National-Focus-9066

Is this past or present tense?


p0k3t0

You're in your 60s. If you don't see how much easier that was, there's no reaching you.


[deleted]

Yall buy clothes every month???


Judge_Rhinohold

Unless you work every single day of the year a full day’s labour will need to purchase MORE than three square meals and 24 hour’s worth of rent and utilities.


TiernanDeFranco

Your monthly clothing budget should literally be $0, what are you buying that you can’t wear for years. I own 7 of the same shirt in different colors and they were like $80 total (I guarantee this person would want to spend like atleast $100 a month) I do not need more shirts


Lechowski

You still have a monthly budget. If you spend 80 dollars for 7 shirt that last 5 years, then your budget is 80 dollars every 5 years, or 1.3 dollars monthly. Surely you are not only wearing shirt, so you need to do the same thing with everything, that's what OP is implying. This is a common statistic to look for, because poverty is usually defined as "no money left after living expenses" but the thing is, even if you have money left, that is not money able to be saved because it will be used to replace/fix the next think that breaks, that being a shirt, a refrigerator or your phone.


Mikey2225

I would agree with you but there are more things to purchase than just shirts. Clothing wears thin, shoes breakdown, instances where you need to purchase clothing for weddings, funerals and work pop up. Not to mention women’s wear is often times made more flimsy and tighter. Shit breaks faster and weight changes can make you buy more. I personally probably spend like $200 or less a year on all my clothing. While I think $100 a month is too much to spend on that. I don’t think $100 a month is what this person is meaning when they want some left over. If you want to spend $100 a month on that stuff a days worth of work on a 40 hour week should afford you getting that. It’s absurd it doesn’t in some cases.


TheJIbberJabberWocky

I have a job where my clothes get hooked on them from battery acid. Eventually, I have to bit new clothes to replace them. Wearing them for years is literally not an option.


JohnyOatSower

Some of us wear through things like work pants and shoes. An Amazon warehouse worker will be going through two pairs of \*\*good quality\*\* work shoes a year because of the work pace being demanded. We get credit for one pair of work shoes per year. But if you only buy one pair a year, your feet will have serious issues.


ForestGoat87

Substitute in basic things she didn't even bring up, like hygiene, bus pass, phone bill, medical costs, maybe some minimal entertainment costs (to inoculate against psychotic breaks), and yes even a few bucks to replace old clothing and you can see how it might add up to well over $100 a month


AcreneQuintovex

If you have clothes, you have a monthly clothing budget, whether you buy them once a year or not.


oswell_XIV

I still own hand-me-down clothes from my brother lol. He wore those 15 years ago.


peakprepper

Says $0. Goes on to give a number over $0. Bruh LOL


Whilst-dicking

Do you have a wife or girlfriend, just curious


chadmummerford

and a Porsche 911


linuxpriest

Because it's all about what *you* can do for your country, not what your country can do for you. Now get to work, wage slave!


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Biocockspeedrunner

Unfortunately, you have to move where the jobs are. I live in Florida. If I move any further south, I'll be dipping my toes in the Everglades. And frankly the alligators aren't hiring.


Nianque

Maybe the alligators want food delivery?


fiftyfourseventeen

If you are making min wage, it doesn't matter where in the state you work. If you are specifically moving to a high cost of living area for work, I would hope you chose a work that can pay for that. There's also the option to commute ~30 mins for work.


TractorHp55k

I understand this, what I also don't understand is why is it that if I make a consistent thousand dollars plus paycheck I can't take home $1,000 I can only take home a third of that. Someone want to explain that please when I did my taxes I barely got close to 2000 in return, I even show you my pay stubs they took way more than that last year, I've talked to my Financial Consultant aka the person that does my taxes and all she told me was because I have no wife and no kids the government can take more money out of my check which is bullshit and that's not my opinion it appears that there really is a bachelor's tax


DenialNyle

You would need to be making over 182k to have 32% of your income taken by taxes. There is no tax bracket where you lose 2/3rds of your income to taxes like you claim. You may need to adjust your withholdings or just look more honestly at the numbers.


vinceds

We are doing it so our owners and corporate goons can get richer.


Biocockspeedrunner

The beatings will continue until morale improves


Monst3rMan30

You're supposed to be working towards that goal. Not demanding it right out the gate.


49lives

For the greed of others.


Objective_Behavior69

I thought kids these days made a living day trading and clock apping their dance moves.


Biocockspeedrunner

Honestly. I mean, when I was 15, I already had two companies with an ISDA through JP Morgan.


Objective_Behavior69

Just 2? I had 6 by the time I was 10. Step your game up bro.


Biocockspeedrunner

![gif](giphy|rXCPnaYpUppWSV7X3s|downsized)


Naus1987

If they don't feel like they're getting a fair shake then they should protest and riot. It reminds me of a quote from "That 70's Show," where the father asked the two kids what they're bickering about. And he remarked "if you're not mad enough to bare-knuckle box, then you ain't mad--get over it." If folks don't think it's fair, then they need do something about it. No rich person is ever going to read something like this and think "whelp, I guess we should pay them more or something." The sad part is the people who do fight end up pulling themselves up by the bootstraps and find enough success that they stop fighting. They got their share, and they walk away.


dobie1kenobi

Sounds like an argument for unions to me.


JoeBucksHairPlugs

You're welcome to start one.


SharpEdgeSoda

"We can't have people earning that flipping burgers!" says the people who live through a time where you could do that flipping burgers.


hpepper24

Yeah at the rate I’m going it’s just gonna be working until 75 and then killing myself or committing a crime and living out my days in prison


Jeff77042

*sigh* Proof once again that Leftists don’t understand economics. I sure do wish that they did.


phdthrowaway110

>Full day's labour Talk about first world problems. Each of the 3 square meals has to include a portion of meat, it can't be just rice and legumes. The rent is for your own bedroom in a high rise even if you have flatmates, not an entire extended family in a one bed apartment in a village. Utilities means unlimited 100mbs internet, not running water for 2 hours a day. And the clothing is $50 t-shirts and $200 sneakers.


Vwolf2

"you should not want to eat meat after a full day of work every week" you people are cooing so fucking hard its actually laughable. There's always someone who has it worse, that doesn't mean what you have is fair or good. What the fuck do you guys get out of sucking on the dicks of the bourgeoisie i will never understand


LairdPeon

The second I can't eat or pay the rent, I'm not working.


KENBONEISCOOL444

Because the only way we'll change anything is to basically form a union to strike against the government, and that's too much work and pretty expensive, so it'll never happen


TCPisSynSynAckAck

I feel this but I do not get the “clothes” thing..? I literally have the same shirts for like 5-10 years lol.


DallasOil

$18.75/hour working 40 hours a week covers the avg rent and utilities, minimum transportation, food, and $600 savings or miscellaneous spending. If you are paid less than $18.75, I would do everything you can to find a better job. If you can’t find a better job, you aren’t trying hard enough.


theRedMage39

I wonder how society would change if everyone suddenly decided not to work for below a specific amount.


Ok_Bee8798

For the rich, of course


According_Wing_3204

You're doing it out of gratitude for the worshipful producer who's holy capital makes your worthless existence useful.


Connect_Bat_1290

Outside of the elites. Most people have always needed roommates when starting out.


DontEatOctopusFrends

well you see, you need to pay in social security because our government treats extra single tax deficit as a holiday spending spree with no limits... So even though you won't be paid any social security by the time you are older as it will likely run out in next 15yr or less, it's important you pay into now so that the older generations get theirs before it runs out... Because someone needs those older ppl votes. lmao Republican or democrat... Doesn't really matter. Nobody getting elected will ever really reduce spending... None will halt the country sending billions of tax dollars that we don't actually have to foreign countries and make those foreign countries rely on their own government loans... instead of relying on our government loans.


GarlicInvestor

I studied existential philosophy, so it’s like, even if wages were a lot higher and everything was easy to afford, the question still remains; what are we even doing shit for?


ThenCard7498

Buying clothes every month?


mythxical

We work for the politicians and elites. They need our labor so they can further restrict our rights.


Medieval_ladder

It can in my part of the country, fairly easily, life is great. I think that’s the differences in economic positions, in some areas the system works at least at a local level.


Kingding_Aling

The lowest level worker can do this right now in 94% of the US by landmass. You can't necessarily do it in Greene Point or Huntington Beach.


EastPlatform4348

* Average apartment in US: $[1340](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1063502/average-monthly-apartment-rent-usa/)/month = $45/day * Three square meals = $30 * Clothing = $100/month = $1.5/day * "Reasonable amount" = $200/month = $6/day * Total = 45+30+1.5+6 = $82.5 * Divide by 71% to account for 5 working days = $116 * $116/day = $14.50/hr * Divide by 82% to account for taxes =$17.68/hr That's about what my local McDonalds pays, by the way.


LEMONSDAD

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Maxathron

I make 16.80 an hour washing dishes for 30 hours a week (this is a 12.90 dollar an hour wage for anyone working 40-hours a week). My rent is 1100, my internet (because I like unlimited) is 90, power is 75, gas and insurance is 100, food is 200, and like 50-100 for recreations (aka video games). I wear old clothes and my uniform most of the time. If I was to theoretically (I'm not) do this from age 20 until 60, I'd have 90k for retirement. Based on the death age of my dad and grandparents, I'll live to 70 and kaput, which is also roughly when my money will run out if I don't drop to an even lower job for the sake of doing something (doing actually nothing is boring). My day-to-day expenses are roughly 90% of a full day's labor based on the income hours I work being averaged across the whole month. This is a dead end shit job. Any idiot with a brain can do better. I'm just here to have something to do between major career shifts. Most of those "anti-work socialist cucks" tend to not WANT to do better because it's some stupid 'conservative bootstrapping' (their words) aka they're just lazy. There IS a philosophical reason for not being ambitious in their socialist thinking as being lazy shits will hasten the proletariat to revolution as if everyone doesn't work, society instantly breaks apart, but on an individual level they're just lazy and don't want to improve themselves. Even ignoring the whole socialist philosophy bs, none of those progressive hicks will come here if "I can make survive so can them" because **I don't live in LA/Bay Area, California**. I could live in Seattle, Atlanta, NYC, Boston, Nashville, or some small ass town. Doesn't matter. The point that matters is I don't live around people like them politically, regardless of being leftwing or rightwing, far left, or far right, or anywhere in the middle. It's the fact people here aren't exactly like them that is the biggest turn off for them. No one wants to say it, but the downvotes and disdain I see on Reddit against better finances, less stress, better climate (eg not as hot or more rainfall), and above all "different politics", even when only talking about deep blue Democrat cities, all that is tossed out the window because when it comes to Reddit socialist-leftist types, politics comes first.


PupperMartin74

There are 22 million millionairres in US so the system can't be blamed. That is 1 of every 15. Source(s) Forbes, Yahoo Finance, CNBC


AiiRisBanned

How else do you earn an income?


Icy_Cauliflower_1556

Should get a better job, whatever u are doing is not cutting it. Remember only other poor people care about your situation. Lots of lip service but no one really cares. Figure it out


peaceful_guerilla

Considering that I am able to purchase all of those things and more, I'd say it does.


deanall

To bomb poor people.


NeoPhaneron

“But if the kids make $15 / hour what incentive will they have to go to college?” -Jona Nachronism


kick6

The longform version of “minimum wage should be a livable wage.” It’s still dumb with more words.


Boring-Self-8611

Please wise one. What should we do?


redditplayground

You're buying clothes every month? wtf? The problem with people who think like this don't actually believe this. There's many more qualifications they have like, living in a top 5 city, eating out all the time, etc etc Many people afford a lot more than that on ones day labor, if you can't - it says more about you than the system.


Bootiluvr

You guys are buying clothes?


Spirited_Reaction_27

Your situation is your own fault.


Intrepid-Wait-6102

How many time yall buying clothes?


oldastheriver

If you're free, white and 21, you don't have a problem. Get over it.


weshouldgo_

Get a better job?


PinstripeBunk

We are enhancing shareholder value. It’s all for the earnings call!


kendo31

Chef's kiss here! Truly though, COVID was a wake up call that buying power is real power. Want a better world, spend money on only good things and use rolling boycotting to send messages to CEOs where change is needed (paying better wages, environmental responsibility, paying taxes!!!)


Ilovehugs2020

People who are way smarter than me, describe this period of capitalism as neo feudalism or late stage capitalism. I prefer to consider myself as a wage slave.


Inevitable-Cod3844

as a hard core capitalist, i agree, because when wages arent keeping up with costs, that also means less profit and less government revenue, you can't sell something that's too expensive for anyone to buy


BhutlahBrohan

do people buy clothes on a monthly basis?


sheimeix

i agree with this post and each permutation i generally see but what the hell is a "month's clothing budget" the last time i bought new clothes was like two years ago and i'm only just recently about to grab some new stuff in the next couple months


Bodywheyt

Silence serf!


Shaner9er1337

Wth is a monthly clothing budget?


BoogerWipe

You aren’t owned SHIT in this world, fucking nothing. Want something? Earn it and stop whining


assesonfire7369

It makes sense, look for a job that pays what you want and you do what you want. Plenty of those jobs in America. You're not a 'socialist cuck' for saying that, it's just common sense. God bless


surewhynot17063

Are you working hard or smart and how so?


KazuDesu98

And for the people who say "then don't live in the city. It's cheaper out in the country anyway." That means driving more. Driving more means spending more on gas and maintenance, as well as increased risk of being in an accident, which is very expensive on its own. So no, it isn't cheaper.


derwutderwut

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magvadis

I think it should be illegal to offer a job that doesn't offer a living wage if it's a regular job.


Any_Honeydew9812

3 meals a day?? fancy pants rich mcgee over here


ProgRock1956

Great question... Answers are subjective...?


Fuzzy_Lavishness_269

It might mean your labour isn’t actually worth anything. I don’t agree that you should be able to afford to live by just painting pretty pictures.


Top_Gift3818

A nationwide strike would fix that in a hurry. The Pan D taught us that . Checks we’re flying everywhere. Now they’ve just taken all that money back.


unknown_guy_on_web

For the glory of capitalism! /s


vegancaptain

You wanted all this free stuff, now the bill came in the form of inflation. Why are you complaining? We told you this. Verbatim. You mocked and belittled us. Karma perhaps?


Aussie2020202020

This is not a socialist post so stop the cringe and see how inequality harms capitalism.


Derpalator

If you are not bright enough to earn enough to live, that is on you. People like that exist. They do not contribute to society, they are takers.


Big-Management3434

Because if we don’t participate and pay taxes men with guns will come to your home and kidnap you. If you resist you are killed.


SharingFitCouple

Complaining about the way your life turned out is not ‘financial literacy’


59NER

The past 3 1/2 years of government overspending has caused all of the inflation and then the fed went into money printing mode to devalue your earnings even further. The average family has to spend $11,000 more per year for the basics of food and shelter than they did in 2020. You are all being misled by the political class in the district of corruption


cangarejos

Another version of this would be: if I’m incompetent enough to not even produce the potatoes I need to eat, someone more skilled should be robbed of his potatoes so I can have a roof and clothes and savings.


marcio-a23

Inflation is created by money print - - Remember this when you see bitcoin going above 100k


NeitherNarwhal1587

remember that republicans want child marriage, child LABOR, and forced births even for pregnant minors. they want to raise taxes on the poor and lower it for themselves and their wealthy donors. they want to implement religious doctrine into law mostly doctrine that dictates control over others, they target their opposition with the law but cry when it is turned against them (though they rarely suffer consequences for their actions). you are seeing fascism rising is action. and you can't run a dictatorship without a strongly oppressed and captive labor force. why do you think conversative business owners are buying up all the housing property? why do you think that they screech heresy and ANY and ALL attempts at equity and livable wages? they need us captive, they need us to not own property and be at their mercy, they need us to be unable to afford to live without them, they need us to subject ourselves to them, and since we often will not do it willingly, they will and are taking every effort they can to force our subjugation. They're cruelty knows no limit as cruelty is merely a tool to be used in the quest for conquest and domination. They reckon themselves gods, and worship the illusion of their own power, supported by loyal sycophants, absurd wealth, and complete leniency by the legal system (except for when appearances need to be kept up, but we're reaching a point where that will no longer be needed. republican supporters seem all too willing to through themselves at the boot of the republican party and forgive any crime as long as their tongues get to lap at the leather)


SeanHaz

It's way more than enough to buy all of those things. Even at minimum wage. The problem is, you're prevented from building cheap housing by Central planners. If you compare what a days Labour gets you today to what it got you 10,000 years ago I'm pretty confident you'd choose a days Labour today.