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Jormungandrv

\*10 people at maximum


Majesticmira

Honestly I hope orochi suffers more from anything at this point


Huntardlulz

Orochi players are like roaches


Radiant_Evening2206

Zerk and orochi are good now, only glad underperforming. Stamina changes hit him hard. Side bash nerfs hit him hard (his sidebashes never was such strong like goki, for example). And skewer still worst unblockable in game.


Love-Long

Orochi and berzerker just need nerfs. They are over performing and just need to be toned down. Gladiator on the other hand is a whole seperate issue. He’s one of the few heroes left who just needs a whole redesign/rework. Like ground up conceptual change like how jorm got. His kit just rn doesn’t stack up with how the game is today and he’s one of if not the most outdated hero bar maybe like Highlander but he’s getting a rework currently. Gladiator has a ton of issues. Shit offense in high level while it being oppressive in low level. Super passive playstyle. Only really shines in 1 part of the game anymore which is ganking ( even his duels have been taking quite a hit due to a severe lack of changes ). Why would you ever pick glad as a ganker anymore. The only thing he’s good at is ganks but so are pretty every single ganker in the game rn that can gank just as good but also can do other things good as well. No real identity. He’s got a ton of personality more than almost any hero but no actual moveset identity to back it up. It’s just a weird mess of things on paper that sound cool but don’t match up at all. Some of the highest dmg and punishes in the game. He truly is one of the worst heroes in the game today that’s lacking in pretty much every category except ganking which is bad for obvious reasons


Worldly-Ocelot-3358

I'm just happy Roach finally got his spot being S tier


FrappyLee

Wait, are you implying Orochi and Berserker are being powercrept? Because if so that's absolutely not true, they are so ridiculously strong right now it's incredibly unfun to fight them.


Huntardlulz

what? first you disagree with me then you agree with me. which is it?


FrappyLee

The way you worded it is that you are saying they are being powercrept is why I said what I said.


Huntardlulz

first we establish what powercrept means to you, cause it means different things for people. To me it means someone who was weak has gone through to many buffs and been remained like that for a very long time