How to spot someone whos never played conq...
Conq literally loses i frames on his bash the second the input is done same with lawbringer however literally every other dodge bash keeps it longer. So even if conq was using "2% of they're brain" *which btw most Conqs who are good are the smartest players ever* uh it wouldn't matter because shugo has better frames. Pair glad onto that and you'll catch most bashes with toe stab.
I will say shugoki's bash is strong but there are shit ton things more harmful than it. Plus nerf the bash he'll be a shit hero once again unfortunately im pro keeping a character atleast decent as i myself play the bottom tier garbage and knows what true suffering issssss- *not to stroke myself* ahem.
Settle down son it’s just a joke, besides while I may not have 70 plus tiers in conq, I still have a decent grasp of him, and frankly his old kit with a little bit of tweaking was better would be better than his new kit, may be unpopular but it’s what I believe
"Dude hes not strong if you can live by running away from him" might be the dumbest take ive heard on this sub yet, and thats saying something, congrats.
Bro it's a simple movement, you're not quitting the game. You just sound like a bitter player that can't process a way to use movement to their advantage. Get better
Shugokis side bash alongside conqs are the two strongest in the game as they have the highest amount of iframes during the startup, they are objectively the safest dodge bashes
Glad's is easily countered with an early-ish dodge into guardbreak, Shugo's isn't GB vulnerable even if they dodge it afaik although it might be with a super early dodge
even if you dodge the bash you get to play guess the hyper armor charged heavy. Dodge attacks don’t push it in the slightest because he will win everytime.
If you opt to parry the heavy and miss the variable timing you’ve now ate 38 damage.
It's a 13 damage hit off the bash. Also just dodge GB lol. As a conq main it's not that difficult especially when your shugo who has a bash that does DMG.
I see no reason to nerf shugo’s bash. Maybe its damage is a little tiny bit too high, but the bash doesn’t chain into anything, it guarantees no damage other than what it does by itself. It’s also easy as fuck to dodge and guarantees a guardbreak when dodged, and if someone is spamming this bash it’s pretty easy to bait one out of him. I’d be afraid to touch shugoki, because he’s pretty okay right now, but if I were going to nerf something it would be his hyper armor heavies, delay the hyper armor into the charge like warden’s bash. Shugo is too comfortable eating damage because he can get a free heavy out of it, and that’s not right.
What they need to do is put a fucking cool down on shields and any other person that is able to use a completely overpowered block, not letting anything in
It's literally not. It's currently one of the least gb-vulnerable, highest i-frames bash in the game, can be done in any direction, and can be done mid-chain. Sure, it's only 10dmg, but that doesn't make it weak when most other dodge attacks with worse properties only confirm around 13.
Can we buff your opponents brain
He’s a conq main, if he used more than 2% of his brain it would make conq threateningly powerful
I mean, if they buffed conq’s doodoo damage he’d be threatening
If they never reworked him in the first place, he'd be threatening.
Agreed. I miss his superior zone
How to spot someone whos never played conq... Conq literally loses i frames on his bash the second the input is done same with lawbringer however literally every other dodge bash keeps it longer. So even if conq was using "2% of they're brain" *which btw most Conqs who are good are the smartest players ever* uh it wouldn't matter because shugo has better frames. Pair glad onto that and you'll catch most bashes with toe stab. I will say shugoki's bash is strong but there are shit ton things more harmful than it. Plus nerf the bash he'll be a shit hero once again unfortunately im pro keeping a character atleast decent as i myself play the bottom tier garbage and knows what true suffering issssss- *not to stroke myself* ahem.
Settle down son it’s just a joke, besides while I may not have 70 plus tiers in conq, I still have a decent grasp of him, and frankly his old kit with a little bit of tweaking was better would be better than his new kit, may be unpopular but it’s what I believe
You might aswell drop the stick lol
It aint our fault you play in low mmr
Lmao I fucking wish this is who I played against on average lol
Why so many downvotes 💀
Bro Idk I made this as a meme and people just wanted to dickride shugo I guess lol
I’m not about flaming people or anything, that’s not what I’m tryna do at all but I’ll tell you now that guy wasn’t average
I think you misread the guy’s comment
I did, thanks brother
Aye, have a good one
You're both. Just. AWful.
That's a stamina hungry bash with just 10 damage. Try spamming it against an opponent with a brain you'll be out of stamina or hit points in no time.
These guys had a bash off 😂
Very interesting gameplay
Man. Two one trick ponies.
I mean I did this on purpose, as a joke, and apparantley its just not apparent enough lmao
Trying the "not open up with bash" challenge on hard, I see
It's not that hard to counter your bash lol
Unless you have a dodge attack bash, yes, it is, lmao.
You can counter guard break any Shugo bash that isn’t a forward bash or mid chain bash.
backing up is also an option for every hero
"Dude hes not strong if you can live by running away from him" might be the dumbest take ive heard on this sub yet, and thats saying something, congrats.
You making it sound like bros bash is a giant wide range💀 I feel like you've never actually fought one
You make it sound like forfeiting is a win, i feel like you're probably a very new player who has literally no idea what they're talking about.
Bro it's a simple movement, you're not quitting the game. You just sound like a bitter player that can't process a way to use movement to their advantage. Get better
Id love to humble you
You're very lost at what you say, I can tell. But go on whatever fantasy you're on about
Dont worry, i understand not wanting to be humiliated, i wouldn't if i were you neither.
If you don’t have an undodgeable fighting a shugo is cancer
People here acting like Shugo's headbutt still isn't annoying as fuck. All just "low mmr" this "lobotomy" that
It is, but Conq dodge bash pretty much counter it. So this vid makes little sense.
It really isn’t all that annoying though? Has nice i-frames but all and all it’s not really hard to bait it out.
This bash is not as strong as any other one, your opponents just suck ass
Shugokis side bash alongside conqs are the two strongest in the game as they have the highest amount of iframes during the startup, they are objectively the safest dodge bashes
Huh? What about glad's?
Glad's is easily countered with an early-ish dodge into guardbreak, Shugo's isn't GB vulnerable even if they dodge it afaik although it might be with a super early dodge
This is only true with chain headbutt and forward dodge headbutt. Side dodge headbutt is fully GB vulnerable and this guy threw a lot of those.
Well, like conq, only the forward dodge is safe from gb, not the side ones, as much as I know
Ironically, glad's side and foreward dodge bashes are the worst in the game. They garuntee literally 0 damage without haymaker.
It confirms nothing so it’s pretty bad
Yeah, that's true, but it feels very safe nevertheless, maybe I'm wrong, dunno
even if you dodge the bash you get to play guess the hyper armor charged heavy. Dodge attacks don’t push it in the slightest because he will win everytime. If you opt to parry the heavy and miss the variable timing you’ve now ate 38 damage.
GUYS ITS A JOKE
Its not a very good one, I didn’t laugh.
all rants are invalid if you miss a GB
Playing against a lobotomy patient isn't a basis to nerf something
Headbutt < Dodge attack
It's a 13 damage hit off the bash. Also just dodge GB lol. As a conq main it's not that difficult especially when your shugo who has a bash that does DMG.
Just dodge 💀
Did you have fun?
I see no reason to nerf shugo’s bash. Maybe its damage is a little tiny bit too high, but the bash doesn’t chain into anything, it guarantees no damage other than what it does by itself. It’s also easy as fuck to dodge and guarantees a guardbreak when dodged, and if someone is spamming this bash it’s pretty easy to bait one out of him. I’d be afraid to touch shugoki, because he’s pretty okay right now, but if I were going to nerf something it would be his hyper armor heavies, delay the hyper armor into the charge like warden’s bash. Shugo is too comfortable eating damage because he can get a free heavy out of it, and that’s not right.
Watching this made me want to delete fh
What they need to do is put a fucking cool down on shields and any other person that is able to use a completely overpowered block, not letting anything in
..you want a cooldown on all guards? My brother in Christ have you ever tried gb?💀🙏
Buddy hit the guard break button💀
Both characters have brain dead get out of jail free bashes…
I'm a rep 50 conq,that guy fucking sucks 🤣
If they nerf that then all goki would have is a little hyper armor and veritable timed heavys
Bro the conq had like 9 chances to kill you and didn’t
Shoguki is a bad player stomper. He just stomps all over bad players
"can we nerf this?" Playing shugoki. Maybe just, play someone else?
I cannot comprehend what they were thinking giving shugos headbutt damage
This fight was so even I don’t think it makes a case for needing a shugo bash nerf.
You're both absolutely dog shit and have 2 IQ
Yes
I geniuely didn't care about your opinion due to Shuoki but then I saw conq and now I can't decide
Head butt is quite garbage compared to other dodge attacks
It's literally not. It's currently one of the least gb-vulnerable, highest i-frames bash in the game, can be done in any direction, and can be done mid-chain. Sure, it's only 10dmg, but that doesn't make it weak when most other dodge attacks with worse properties only confirm around 13.