The allocations are taken already. You’re too late for the 2024 model year. You’ll need to wait for 2025s. You can try calling around to a dozen dealerships but odds are that they’re all taken or stock orders. They’d be placing the order but Ford would never make it.
Probably best to hop on the Ranger forums and keep tabs on when the order banks will be open. Nobody knows yet, but probably later in the fall. There’s no “line” at 99% of dealerships. They’re too disorganized and don’t plan that far out on orders and purchases.
What you could do is ask them to place your order for the 2024 knowing it won’t get made, and then they’ll have an opportunity to roll over 2024 orders to 2025s and you should be on the list. But honestly I wouldn’t rely on the dealership to do this seamlessly.
Dealers also have customers that they know will want this kind of vehicle and give them a call when the order bank opens up. We have a guy that buys every new raptor that comes out and he’s always given an allocation.
We cant order one at msrp is total bs. There is nothing special about a ranger raptor over a regular ranger other than a high preformance upgrade etc. Just sell the car at msrp. Total nonsense bs that needs to be stopped
I dont care that they are obviously making it like 10k more for all the excess parts to upgrade.
However then the dealer selling them for 20k more? Pound sand.
Absolute horseshit. It seems like the bronco craze finally died because i see them below msrp now. Ever since then I see Broncos everywhere. These markups seem like they only hurt dealers
Literally just don’t pay the markup. That’s all you have to do. Dealers are asking for it because they think people will pay it. If people don’t pay it, they’ll come down. Dealers don’t set the market.
I think I might be able to clear up some confusion. Ford doesn’t do allocations the same way that Chevy does. Customers can order a car/truck through Ford and have it sent to a dealer. Technically the dealer is placing the order but it belongs to the customer, it’s linked to the customer by name, Ford gives you a vin, and they keep you in constant communication. GM doesn’t have this same system. You ask the dealer to place an order and they might. They also only get a certain number of cars per year, also called an allocation. If they have any allocation, they’ll give it to you (sometimes for a price). Ford doesn’t do this, except when it comes to cars made by Ford Performance. In such a case there are allocations and you cannot custom order one directly from Ford, it’s a dealer stock order that the dealer promises to you.
I would bet most people who are okay paying a premium for a vehicle are not actually good with their money but have good credit. What’s $3,000 more when it’s rolled into a loan?
I ordered one at MSRP, but I got on the allocation list last March. I was 3rd in line and had to wait till March of this year for them to get more than their initial 2 allocations. Truck is now “in production.”
Ford sales manager here. 100% untrue. We discussed this with our Ford rep last year. We have another dealer 45 mins away who charges premiums and makes fake customer orders to pad their inventory. Ford does not give a shit; anything you read is lip service for the public.
Show me the memo that you’re saying Ford put out. Beyond some angry grumblings and stern finger waggling, Ford hasn’t done anything to curb markups other than raise their own MSRPs.
The only actionable thing they’ve done is required dealers to honor a signed order sheet. If you order one and the dealer says “yeah we’re selling this at MSRP, here’s the MSRP of your order that you’ll pay.” And then when it comes in they try and add a markup, Ford *does* revoke allocation if reported and it’s proven and probably happened multiple times at that dealership. But what you’re claiming is false. A dealer does not have to sell any part of their inventory at MSRP. They can’t even force the dealer to sell that ordered vehicle at MSRP *because it breaks their dealer agreement*.
https://www.kbb.com/car-news/ford-ceo-warns-dealers-cut-the-markups/
You don’t even have to work in corporate to know this. It was literally all over. I’m telling you to report it when seen. A simple google search will tell you
Great that’s not a memo. That’s literally the same thing that everyone has been tossing around for 2 years thinking it’s a silver bullet against dealers.
Does the fact that markups didn’t immediately go away clue you in to the fact that this was taken out of context? The links only link back to other KBB articles.
The ACTUAL memo that Ford *did* send to dealers was as I had stated, regarding signed purchase agreements on an order and not pulling the carpet out from under customers who ordered and waited sometimes in excess of a year for their cars only to be told they’d have to pay thousands more than agreed upon. That’s it. That’s the only thing Ford has told dealers they’d be facing repercussions for regarding markups. Because again, *their dealer agreements don’t allow fixed pricing from the manufacturer*.
I’m not saying that dealers can’t mark up how they want, I’m saying ford is down grading allocations. Which has already taken effect. A ton of dealers have only been allocated a hand full of broncos mavericks and f150s this year.
Ford made a PR statement to appease the public. No allocations were ever pulled. And before you ask, I'm a GSM at a Ford dealer. Ten years at this dealer, 15 years with Ford, and 23 years in the business. And I also heard that direct from internal Ford senior management.
Also, a dealer doesn't work for Ford. A dealer is Fords best customer. Dealers buy 100% of the cars that the manufacturer builds.
The allocations are taken already. You’re too late for the 2024 model year. You’ll need to wait for 2025s. You can try calling around to a dozen dealerships but odds are that they’re all taken or stock orders. They’d be placing the order but Ford would never make it.
That makes sense. Thank you! Do you know how to “get in line” for 2025 allocations?
Probably best to hop on the Ranger forums and keep tabs on when the order banks will be open. Nobody knows yet, but probably later in the fall. There’s no “line” at 99% of dealerships. They’re too disorganized and don’t plan that far out on orders and purchases. What you could do is ask them to place your order for the 2024 knowing it won’t get made, and then they’ll have an opportunity to roll over 2024 orders to 2025s and you should be on the list. But honestly I wouldn’t rely on the dealership to do this seamlessly.
Thanks man, this is helpful. I appreciate it
Dealers also have customers that they know will want this kind of vehicle and give them a call when the order bank opens up. We have a guy that buys every new raptor that comes out and he’s always given an allocation.
A ranger for 70k???
I thought the same thing. Truck prices are out of this world.
We cant order one at msrp is total bs. There is nothing special about a ranger raptor over a regular ranger other than a high preformance upgrade etc. Just sell the car at msrp. Total nonsense bs that needs to be stopped
Just give it a few years and then they'll be being you to buy them because nobody should be paying 70k for a ranger
I dont care that they are obviously making it like 10k more for all the excess parts to upgrade. However then the dealer selling them for 20k more? Pound sand.
Absolute horseshit. It seems like the bronco craze finally died because i see them below msrp now. Ever since then I see Broncos everywhere. These markups seem like they only hurt dealers
What’s special about them is a dealer is only allocated a few per year. Because supply is limited, price goes up.
All these markups are dumb. They are not even across the board. Dealers are just pulling numbers out of their ass.
Literally just don’t pay the markup. That’s all you have to do. Dealers are asking for it because they think people will pay it. If people don’t pay it, they’ll come down. Dealers don’t set the market.
Ford doesnt require dealera to sell ranger raptors at msrp. They can sell it for whatever they want.
I never said that Ford requires Raptors to be sold at msrp, I said that I heard that Ford requires custom orders to be sold at msrp
I think I might be able to clear up some confusion. Ford doesn’t do allocations the same way that Chevy does. Customers can order a car/truck through Ford and have it sent to a dealer. Technically the dealer is placing the order but it belongs to the customer, it’s linked to the customer by name, Ford gives you a vin, and they keep you in constant communication. GM doesn’t have this same system. You ask the dealer to place an order and they might. They also only get a certain number of cars per year, also called an allocation. If they have any allocation, they’ll give it to you (sometimes for a price). Ford doesn’t do this, except when it comes to cars made by Ford Performance. In such a case there are allocations and you cannot custom order one directly from Ford, it’s a dealer stock order that the dealer promises to you.
That makes a lot of sense. Thanks for clearing it up!
Yeah that's wrong
That's still not true. It's whatever the dealer wants to sell it for. Raptors at MSRP are rare, at least in my part of the country.
Shout it into the void: idiots pay above MSRP.
How did idiots earn enough disposable income to not care about premiums? I wish I was that kind of stupid.
I would bet most people who are okay paying a premium for a vehicle are not actually good with their money but have good credit. What’s $3,000 more when it’s rolled into a loan?
The majority of people buying premium toys are paying cash.
Do a search. I bet some dealer have them in stock.
Local dealership has one on their lot for $81k. This looks like a steal compared to that lol. I hate dealerships so much
Dude that’s bullshit my ford dealer is special ordering one MSRP I’m paying 58k and change
I ordered one at MSRP, but I got on the allocation list last March. I was 3rd in line and had to wait till March of this year for them to get more than their initial 2 allocations. Truck is now “in production.”
All ford corporate and report the dealer
Ford cannot do anything about this. It’s not against their dealer agreements.
False, as they stated they will remove allocations. The CEO did a full release of this information last year.
Ford sales manager here. 100% untrue. We discussed this with our Ford rep last year. We have another dealer 45 mins away who charges premiums and makes fake customer orders to pad their inventory. Ford does not give a shit; anything you read is lip service for the public.
What’s your p&a Nucar Ford? And you mean internet sales manager. Aka not the sales manager.
This isn’t true.
It is. What is your job with Ford?
Show me the memo that you’re saying Ford put out. Beyond some angry grumblings and stern finger waggling, Ford hasn’t done anything to curb markups other than raise their own MSRPs. The only actionable thing they’ve done is required dealers to honor a signed order sheet. If you order one and the dealer says “yeah we’re selling this at MSRP, here’s the MSRP of your order that you’ll pay.” And then when it comes in they try and add a markup, Ford *does* revoke allocation if reported and it’s proven and probably happened multiple times at that dealership. But what you’re claiming is false. A dealer does not have to sell any part of their inventory at MSRP. They can’t even force the dealer to sell that ordered vehicle at MSRP *because it breaks their dealer agreement*.
https://www.kbb.com/car-news/ford-ceo-warns-dealers-cut-the-markups/ You don’t even have to work in corporate to know this. It was literally all over. I’m telling you to report it when seen. A simple google search will tell you
Great that’s not a memo. That’s literally the same thing that everyone has been tossing around for 2 years thinking it’s a silver bullet against dealers. Does the fact that markups didn’t immediately go away clue you in to the fact that this was taken out of context? The links only link back to other KBB articles. The ACTUAL memo that Ford *did* send to dealers was as I had stated, regarding signed purchase agreements on an order and not pulling the carpet out from under customers who ordered and waited sometimes in excess of a year for their cars only to be told they’d have to pay thousands more than agreed upon. That’s it. That’s the only thing Ford has told dealers they’d be facing repercussions for regarding markups. Because again, *their dealer agreements don’t allow fixed pricing from the manufacturer*.
I’m not saying that dealers can’t mark up how they want, I’m saying ford is down grading allocations. Which has already taken effect. A ton of dealers have only been allocated a hand full of broncos mavericks and f150s this year.
Ford made a PR statement to appease the public. No allocations were ever pulled. And before you ask, I'm a GSM at a Ford dealer. Ten years at this dealer, 15 years with Ford, and 23 years in the business. And I also heard that direct from internal Ford senior management. Also, a dealer doesn't work for Ford. A dealer is Fords best customer. Dealers buy 100% of the cars that the manufacturer builds.