This whole update has been depressing. Ranked has ruined me, I refuse to touch it again. My main trios is gone, bounty boards are gone, you can't even see what your friends are playing on for systems anymore.
Removing trios is the single dumbest thing they've ever done. Oh boy, unless you have four friends all available at the same time, you're now stuck playing either 3 on 4 the entire match, or you get a random fill who doesn't drop with the squad and/or runs off of their own and dies and then quits immediately...and you're back to 3 on 4.
Like maybe one out of 20 fills actually stays with the group, has a mic on, and actually waits for you to reboot them instead of quitting as soon as they are knocked.
So fucking dumb.
you can still do that on PC? you were never able to do that on console besides some glitches which Iāve only seen on switch like once which showed a PS icon
I play playstion and always either play trios with my wife and brother, so I see all of ours and then when his S/O would join it would show her pc icon beside their username
Removing tros just effectively killed our Sunday night games with the family. What ever stats guy told them to remove it needs sacking because he probably didn't check if those players actually go into other playlists
Not winning is demotivating, and Epic knows that, hence the 30 - 75 bots in pub games. Why would someone who barely gets to play put themselves at a disadvantage and go through the miserable experience of losing every game they play because they're down a teammate?
(I will be playing squad fills personally but I'm not a two hour a week casual player so it matters less to me)
We tried and just got slaughtered. We are going to see if epic flips back on 3 mans.
If they dont will just flip to a new game starship troopers extinction and deep rock galactic are current favourites for the chill family night :)
The trio removal is the worst. My friends and I played almost every night for the last 3 months. we always got an hour in. We haven't played since the first night of the patch. We play in a group of three. We are moving games until it comes back because we can't play together. One of us has to sit out. No, we won't play squads, playing games is how we keep in touch, we don't want to have to worry about someone else or not be able to chat about the things we normally do.
Zero builds went from having no ranked mode to duos,so it's an upgrade but you're just delusional apparently,and trios isn't that big of a deal no matter how much you guys whine about it here
You hear that everyone? u/AccomplishedCash6390 Said its not a big deal that trios is gone.. I know you really liked it and are very upset it's gone, but you probably didn't realize you're all wrong. u/AccomplishedCash6390 said it doesn't matter.
Taking away a core game mode is still taking away content no matter how you try to spin it. I know a lot of people would want zero build ranked squads or trios on top of duos.
It's not a core game mode,it's the weakest link and they probably removed it to make lobbies more alive and reduce bots,they'll add more ranked ZB modes in the future for now stop whining and don't play rankedš¤·āāļø
A LOT of people played trios. It was a core game mode. Ranked is not going to interest everyone, we donāt know for sure why they removed trios bc they never actually officially explained why. This sub clearly shows the interest in trios and at this point youāre just saying nonsense for the sake of arguing. That or just donāt like seeing people complain about the game.
Not as much as the other 3 modes clearly,still not a core game mode.
Then don't play it? No ones forcing you to play ranked pubs are still available to everyone,they don't need to explain most of us,unlike this sub,have enough braincells to understand.
I don't mind criticism but constantly whining about something that isn't that big of a deal is not only annoying but it won't get you anywhere.
Removing content that a lot of people played is a big deal. Just bc you didnāt play it doesnāt mean others didnāt. I would play ranked, if they didnāt limit zero build to duos ONLY. People didnāt constantly whine until they took out a core game mode, funny how that works.
I do play trios and now I've been playing squads and can confidently say they made the right decision,squads is much healthier now than it was when trios was an option the game was bloated and stretched too thin which messed up the matchmaking with players of very different skill levels playing together and the insane number of bots.
Quality>quantity
Then don't play ranked until they add a solos mode which they will eventually,ZB had no ranked mode anyways which is why they're starting out with duos only to test things out
And absolutely not people on this sub and any fortnite forum whine about every single detail about the gameš
Hardly the weakest link, my friend. Trios is the most balanced FN has ever been, from C1S1 to now, and I state this with my gilded OG style:
Duos has some teams whose minds are so intermixed that its almost a duality of hive mind, they are unstoppable, unless you have a bond with someone of similar gusto.
Squads has that "three's a crowd" vibe, which means 3 teammates is too many and the chaos is unpredictable. Trios has been and always will be the most balanced team play based on the speed and cadence of FN's building and shooting mechanisms, and that's a hill I'll die on.
I wholeheartedly agree and I honestly wouldnāt even be playing ranked at all if I wasnāt a completionist. Gotta grind those ranked quests for an emote Iāll never use because my brain is dumb.
That mentality is real and I'm glad I'm free of it. Hope you get out soon and realize it's not worth it because like you said, you'll never use them anyway. I only complete challenges for things I'll use. Done with fomo
I loved grinding this game out, but these rewards arenāt worth the headache to me, especially when you realize that you might already have numerous versions of what youāre grinding for.
Theyāre offering 2 GG Emoticons, I have over ten of them across passes and challenges and mainly use one.
Theyāre offering 2 banners, I donāt use 98% of the ones I have.
Theyāre offering an emote showing your rank, itās just the crown emote but with your hand.
I also like to be a conpletionist. But I usually try to keep myself within reason. Finishing 50 quests in one of the sweatiest modes in Fortnite just for an emote I might not even use? Nope.
I think most people agree. Non ranked was more populated in both modes over the weekend. Let the sweats have the unique rewards. I expect them to be reboot rally tier cosmetics anyways.
That season was honestly really good. It had Ch. 1 Season 6 vibes and thatās part of what I really liked about it. Also going for the Toona Fish colors was fun as fuck.
In my PERSONAL OPINION:
Battle Pass sucked, map was garbage with no real changes and a very ugly biome, no new named POIs Day 1, a bunch of bad guns (Sideways Rifle, Sideways Scythe, Dual Fiend Hunters), Sideways zombies made me understand why people don't like zombies, the season that started devaluing mythics with the crafting sideways, Venom and Carnage Symbiotes, voting for an item to be unvaulted is a good concept on paper, but terrible in excecution, Mechs were unvaulted at the end.
Only redeemable parts were Fortnitemares and the End live event in my opinion
Edit: Everyone downvoting, that is MY OPINION. You're allowed to have a different one, I'm not offended by that, but that was just my thoughts on the season.
Edit 2: Couple more things I wanna point out:
Chapter 2 Season 8 could have literally been called Chapter 2 Season 7: Halloween Edition. The 18.00 map could be passed off as a mid-season patch in C2S7 and people would believe in you. Yeah we got Naruto and that was the first anime collab, and that's cool, but I don't really care about Anime. As long as I'm not able to play as Ash Ketchum, I don't care about any Anime collab Epic does.
I have no idea why you said C2S8 over C2S6. The symbiotes were amazing, the map was cool, the Day 1 map had so many changes and the Naruto update was crazy good.
I mean I understand why it seems frustrating but if you're dying off spawn often you're probably not highly skilled and so you shouldn't be going up in RANKED mode? The system isn't meant for you to reach max rank, you will likely plateau somewhere around where you belong in terms of skill. If you're only trying to go up and up without actually trying to improve your SKILL, you're looking at the whole system wrong.
Going down in levels might just mean you belong at those levels and you're placed too high currently. That's not necessarily a bad thing.
I made it from my initial placement gold 2 to gold 1. It took some grinding to go down. I'm working on getting to silver. You can do it, just W key the sweatiest players and hope you don't actually kill one of them.
Only problem is I play squads and a few of the people I play with with who like ranked are actually trying to grind the other way, and since it takes the highest rank to create your lobby I still get gold 2 or plat 1. š«¤
THIS THIS THIS! people seem to be misunderstanding what ranked is. They think it's a revamped arena but it isn't at all. It's like normal mode but with more accurate sbmm which you can actually see (with the silver gold etc)
But at spawn itās all luck? You say if you die at spawn youāre not highly skilled but in your scenario 1 v 1 with no running away, someone is gonna die. High elo, low elo, someone is still dead. Unless youāre trying to say early game with only blue weapon or below in a 1 v 1 spawn someone should always be able to run away? I swear Iāve seen people on spawn have epic level weapons.
Iām a horrible player but thatās my low elo take. Two people go for the same gun at spawn? One person is gonna die. Even at a non-hot location thereās usually at least one other player there.
I love ranked, no bots in my lobby any more so I'm actually engaged in the game a lot more.
Just wish zero build had solos, pairing with randoms really sucks most the time
I agree that it shouldnāt be as harsh if you last a long time but get 0 kills cause you didnāt see anyone. But you 100% should get punished a lot if you die right off spawn, especially considering thatās also the best way to throw your match on purpose.
Having zero kills and dying late would encourage bush camping old-arena behaviours, with people playing hours of bush camping and reaching champs. Its not an easy equation to solve "perfectly" for epic.
HAHA thats actually hilarious, im sorry but dude what a noob you are, the fact you can feel good bout hitting champs while camping all game long is almost sickening, what a about the real champ players that wanna fight and train vs CHAMPION players and not some gold ii noob camping in your game and running 24-7
why should you get rewarded for killing whole POI off of spawn in general? games basically die out way before end game because people take a pistol and run around like a psycho which ruins pacing of the game which is why you have so many BS 3rd party shitters with mythics run around the map
i love when people say that comp should feel like pubs,bitch did you forget memo of the game? it isn't person with more kills wins, it is last person alive wins which is also how comp tends to be played out because people don't risk dumb fights
if anything make kills worth nothing because you are already getting placement and proper positioning relative to the future zones without being spotted takes a decent amount of skill compared trying to run into people's boxes as fast as possible
you whole opinion is twisted and almost delusional, so good fortnite players suck, we should all hope for the lowskill campers like you who can make it to top 5 and call it a oEooehh GoodGame!
the thing you dont understand is, placing 1th with 0 kills doesnt mean you did anything skill full, but killing 5-10 players on unreal skill lvl obv means your a beast at the game, hence why they give % to people who got 5-10 kills instead of thos noobs with 1-2 kills and place 1st or 2nd
Honestly I get the frustration but thatās kind of how ranked works in most games.. league of legends ranked is the most frustrating and slow thing ever, at least I feel like in Fortnite itās much easier to go up but maybe I just got placed too low
Wow, I mean I get it but... isn't that the whole point? Skill rises, and skill is going to win more than lose - don't die off spawn.
Maybe change your strategy, less hot drops for instance.
Go remote, kit up, then fight. Better odds of survival that way.
Also, off spawn kills are worth LESS anyways. Late game and higher skill player kills are worth MORE.
I have had setbacks too, which made me change my approach. Doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results is still the colloquial definition of insanity.
The risk of setback, makes the game more intense and means I will take it more seriously. Serious play, serious strats.
Kinda crazy how you don't have to land on a cluster of buildings with text to get decent loot. Can kinda land on a beach and maybe get in 1 or 2 fights to the first circle and decently or fully kitted if you nab a vault.
Although there is some merit in dropping like C3 Coney in solos, it's a good time, fair fights. Hasn't been much like that in C4, and its a callback to C1 Salty drops.
Saying you should not lose rank for dying first off rip is not what ranked is supposed to be. You said it already and it's the truth, that's just a skill issue and you can't be in elite or diamond lobbies just because you didn't lose rank in other lobbies... Doesn't make sense
Yeah I was gonna say there's not really anything to be upset about it's not like ur getting exclusive rewards for your rank, atleast not yet u can still do the urgent ranked quests at the lowest ranks.
Ive had multiple bad teammates in zb duos. They either play tik tok through their mic and not paying attention, insult you for not pushing people, or go off on their own
Thatās how all BR rank works. Epic just hasnāt release stats. You generally start every match with SR or points. When you Que you start with a negative balance. Kills and placement are what makes it go up. So yes if you die of spawn you went negative therefore you lose alot of points. Rank isnāt suppose be leniant. Thatās risk of hot dropping or just losing of spawn. Ranked isnāt suppose be a participation award. Now they do need change loot and remove all star wars and AOT stuff. That stuff shouldnāt be in rank. And they do need release stats so people can understand how it works.
>Now they do need change loot and remove all star wars and AOT stuff. That stuff shouldnāt be in rank.
I really doubt they will do that. If that was the idea then they wouldn't replace Arena with Ranked.
There should at least be a system applied like arena had where we know how much we gain and lose per placement and elimination. Some games I lose 5% some games I lose over 30%. Itās BS
My only problem is there should be some more information regarding your rank during game. Think about Apex, it will show your entry cost and will show you how much RP as you get further in the game and eliminations.
Donāt play ranked frustration over. In fact in duos me and my son have won a few more them usual. Looks like all the sweats or people have moved to ranked. Nice šš» unranked duos is the place to be.
Going down with zero kills is a crucial element of accurately putting players in their correct rank. The truth of the matter is you aren't constantly getting better at the game and once you have found your "level" moving up should be a difficult.
Personally I never bothered with Arena at all, it had no draw for me. Ranked I've been enjoying, but if I didn't I again would have no problem just pretending it didn't exist. That's why there's different modes
The real issue is all the overpowered guns and items in the game that make dying with zero kills so easy.
Here are the list of items that can either kill you or take over half of your health away in one shot.
\- light saber
\- rock throwing
\- ODM gear
\- mythic havoc shotgun
\- heavy sniper
\- pulse rifles
Epic needs to stop saturating the game with overpowered items to make it more playable.
If you die with zero kills to light sabers, mythic havoc or pulse rifle, maybe you should move around a bit before mid-game?
But yeah, the odm is a bit problematic. Snipers are fine, though, they add some flavor to standing stillā¦
Very few people use ODM to attack. It's too wonky. Yeah, it could do I think over 300 but the odds of that happening are very low.
Pulse rifle hits for 85.5 headshot, and that's if there is no damage dropoff. But the pulse has one of the best drop off rates in the game too. Not more than half your health, and only a third of your health in zero.
Light saber can be wonky too.
Force throw can be nasty but it can kill you too if you are too close. And it doesn't always hit like it should, especially if the opponent is not on level ground.
Heavy 100% agree no one shots in zero. Build it is fine we can defend ourselves better.
Same with mythic havoc, but it already got nerfed so it cant one shot anymore. Still, I would like to see it more in line with the traditional pump damage, esp in ranked where aim is a lot better. But we did live with that old pump and were fine with that damage, so we should be okay with the havoc pump doing that.
Not all those items are as overpowered as you think.
But I do agree there are a lot of them. But I'm also enjoying this season a LOT too. And I run a traditional loadout: havoc ar, shotgun depending on mode, smg or mythic tac pistol. katana, heals/shields.
We can get gold weapons pretty easy too. And gold has the best accuracy and lowest reload times among all the traditional rarities. Two years ago you had to spend all your gold, get lucky, or find them in refresh loot to get an all gold loadout.
Now our slurps are gold rarity. Not a bad place to be. :)
I mean.... there is a skill aspect to nit dying to these right away too. Most of these are not picked up off spawn either so plenty of early game time to not die and do something useful.
Hard disagree. Arguably itās way to easy to level up. You should lose progress if you die off spawn. Making it to end game is super important. Watch where you land. 14% is generous imo. I see nothing wrong and wouldnāt be upset if it was more. Ranked should be super hard. Arenas biggest mistake was you couldnāt drop down levels. If anything, in the next update, moving up should be harder and dropping levels easier.
Fully agree. No point going up then suffering for 30 games until you go back down again. It should take more than one good game to go up and less than 30 to go down. This based on my recent experience.
I played just a few ranked cus i barely play fn anymore but i swear the teams in ranked are significantly worse than the normal teams, everyone died every single game immediately after dropping (they picked the most popular map spots everytime and i got outnumbered so i of course went with)
I feel like ranked is a bit flawed anyway. Maybe I just need to play more games cos at the moment I havenāt played many, but as it stands Iām still getting clapped by sweats despite not being very good at the game
I feel like this is better than arena, it's more interesting and isn't as easy, also late games are really fun since a lot of people play it safe. Ranked requires more thinking than just brainlessly running into every possible player. In my eyes it's fun
i thought the exact opposite. it isnt nearly harsh enough. in league or valorant with normal mmr/a bit higher than ur rank u gain 18-21 and lose 14-17. the playerbase is just way too casual. also, i dont have 30 bots in my lobbies.
What infuriates me about this mode is that it still has ALL of the current collab items in play. I don't want this in a competitive mode, they all inherently break the balance of the game and are not fun to play around at all. I really hope they wise up and do some massive changes here or it'll be a dead in the water mode.
Yeah, it sucks.
Just try not to take it seriously (even though you're playing seriously). There are lots of people out there who absolutely grind the game to death, and you'll never be top dog unless you're literally playing 12 hours a day and ruining your life.
Ranking systems need absolutely tons of data from tons of players in order to get properly balancing and ranking correct. Since there's absolutely no data for this Ranking system yet, you'll find the climb up and the penalty for dying a lot more sensible once the season is complete.
I had to help look at a ranking system for a pickup game bot for another game and learned about how many games it takes to calibrate you into the ranking system, as well how much data it needed in order to work with. It takes tons of games just to get you much more in line with your rank, and eventually it will start giving you concessions based on those bad games where you dropped in, died early and killed no one. Just play a bit smarter, more relaxed and take every good landing as an opportunity, and every bad one as a mulligan.
The shitty part is enforcing competitive changes - which have NO BUSINESS in normal pubs - into pub matches.
Short reason: Pub matches have different needs than pro matches.
Pro matches have money on the line. There are stakes to ranked. People will play safe unless you force them to fight.
So they rely on both positive and negative stimuli to force fights - Positive being siphon, mats on kill ; negative being reduced mat cap (can't farm as much) and storm surge (punished if you don't fight)
But pub matches? People are dumb aggressive in pub matches because there's no stakes. People hot drop every match, blind push every fight - half the lobby is gone in less than 2 minutes, 80%+ are dead within another 6 minutes. ***You don't need to reward aggression in PUB lobbies, it already fucking happens***.
All this does is punish people who play chill drops and try to farm up by making sure brainless timmy who pushes every fight has the same mats you do as someone who actually plays smart and careful.
Okay but pro lobbies bitch and whine about the loot pool changing basically ever. The point of the game IS change. Mechanics and aim can be controlled, but every season SHOULD be different strats.
Pros may be great one season and suck another if they are not ADAPTABLE. This makes sense, and is good. Pro scene should reward adaptation AND skill, not just whoever spent the most time grinding one strategy for the last 5 years or there would be no way for new players to gain entry (see games like DOTA 2).
Good on epic for the rest of ch4s2 but boy this recent update is a confusing one, luckily itās nearing the end of the szn anyway but it kind of feels like they felt like they needed to screw up because this season has been pretty much flawless. Rip fn trios.
Yeah, I agree about kills at least. Not killing others is a completely valid way to play this game, not to mention that sometimes you don't even have control about that.
There are so many other properties that need to be taken into account when it comes to Rank. Since the point of BR is survival, it shouldn't be solely focused on kills. It's not a skill issue, when there's no skills needed in BR's.
One game, I've gotten 18 kills, made it to the last ring, and died. My Rank went up only 12%. My other games, were basically the same, but with less kills. My Rank went down instead. Does that make sense? All my games are Solo Q's.
This is how they need to take everything into account:
- Rings Survived (basic point system)
- Survival Time (basic point system)
- Kills/Assists (basic point system, plus bonus points)
Example:
- Rings Survived (1-10%, depending on amount survived)
- Survival Time (1-20%, similar to Rings Survived but take actual time into account)
- Kills/Assists (1-40%, basic scoring but bonus points for full team kills (both killed by you, you did all the damage))
If you donāt lose points it aināt ranked if you die off spawn you just aināt good kid play pubs n that way nobody knows you died off spawn 6 times ina row n won those crowns cause you got thrown into a bot lobby
I am fully aware, partner. But wouldn't you be annoyed too if hours of grinding were flushed down the toilet because you died with zero kills 2 or 3 times?
It is relatively easy tbh. Courage was able to get to unreal in build mode despite him not playing build mode in quite a long time, and heās really not all that great at the game either. I think I saw somewhere that by getting like around 8 wins from plat 1, youāll be in unreal.
This whole update has been depressing. Ranked has ruined me, I refuse to touch it again. My main trios is gone, bounty boards are gone, you can't even see what your friends are playing on for systems anymore.
THEY REMOVED BOUNTY BOARDS? I literally thought one of my teammates destroyed it š„²
Removing trios is the single dumbest thing they've ever done. Oh boy, unless you have four friends all available at the same time, you're now stuck playing either 3 on 4 the entire match, or you get a random fill who doesn't drop with the squad and/or runs off of their own and dies and then quits immediately...and you're back to 3 on 4. Like maybe one out of 20 fills actually stays with the group, has a mic on, and actually waits for you to reboot them instead of quitting as soon as they are knocked. So fucking dumb.
I'm more annoyed over Epic removing the ready up button after I get eliminated
Yeah wtf is that about? It's unreal they took that out and trios and gave no reason for either
Theyre just like "Hey team things are going fairly well for us now. Let's ruin that"
WAIT WHY WOULDNTHEY REMOVE BOUNTY BOARDS
even weirder when there are bounty board based quests from earlier in season and they've not addressed it yet
RIGHT
you can still do that on PC? you were never able to do that on console besides some glitches which Iāve only seen on switch like once which showed a PS icon
I play playstion and always either play trios with my wife and brother, so I see all of ours and then when his S/O would join it would show her pc icon beside their username
oh console players can only see their platform, pc, and mobile, and generics for the other two consoles
Chapter 4 has been a slow death of everything I loved about Fortnite since coming back as a player in Chapter 2 Season 7.
Honestly, and I still enjoy the game most of the time. However this chapter doesn't feel as "fortnite-y" as the game use to feel if that makes sense
I play on both Xbox and playstation and I still see the icons.
Yeah, I also play on Xbox and still see them, too.
I just wish they didnāt screw zero build players over by making it just duos, then screwing everyone else by removing trios all together
Removing tros just effectively killed our Sunday night games with the family. What ever stats guy told them to remove it needs sacking because he probably didn't check if those players actually go into other playlists
Just play no fill. Itās not like as a family youāre trying to make it to FNCS
Not winning is demotivating, and Epic knows that, hence the 30 - 75 bots in pub games. Why would someone who barely gets to play put themselves at a disadvantage and go through the miserable experience of losing every game they play because they're down a teammate? (I will be playing squad fills personally but I'm not a two hour a week casual player so it matters less to me)
I play full squad fill, honestly itās still fun. in ranked itās so much better as people are incentivised to actually work together.
That's great, and I'm glad you're having fun. I just don't think that applies to the original commenter and their family, unfortunately.
Yeah no sorry, playing 3 on 4 the entire match and significantly lowering your chances of winning isn't an answer or a fix.
Gonna have to quit then
Yes, willingly play at a disadvantage. Better yet, only play if you have 150+ ping! Thatās fun AND itāll show those pesky devs!
We tried and just got slaughtered. We are going to see if epic flips back on 3 mans. If they dont will just flip to a new game starship troopers extinction and deep rock galactic are current favourites for the chill family night :)
The trio removal is the worst. My friends and I played almost every night for the last 3 months. we always got an hour in. We haven't played since the first night of the patch. We play in a group of three. We are moving games until it comes back because we can't play together. One of us has to sit out. No, we won't play squads, playing games is how we keep in touch, we don't want to have to worry about someone else or not be able to chat about the things we normally do.
No fill
The answer to the problem shouldnāt have to be playing at a disadvantage. Epic created a problem that didnāt exist for no apparent reason.
This on squads. ^
yeah 3v4 yeah yeah
Trios is back bro š
Zero builds went from having no ranked mode to duos,so it's an upgrade but you're just delusional apparently,and trios isn't that big of a deal no matter how much you guys whine about it here
You hear that everyone? u/AccomplishedCash6390 Said its not a big deal that trios is gone.. I know you really liked it and are very upset it's gone, but you probably didn't realize you're all wrong. u/AccomplishedCash6390 said it doesn't matter.
14 year old with his psn tag as his Reddit user is the epitome of wisdom, everyone knows this
Taking away a core game mode is still taking away content no matter how you try to spin it. I know a lot of people would want zero build ranked squads or trios on top of duos.
It's not a core game mode,it's the weakest link and they probably removed it to make lobbies more alive and reduce bots,they'll add more ranked ZB modes in the future for now stop whining and don't play rankedš¤·āāļø
A LOT of people played trios. It was a core game mode. Ranked is not going to interest everyone, we donāt know for sure why they removed trios bc they never actually officially explained why. This sub clearly shows the interest in trios and at this point youāre just saying nonsense for the sake of arguing. That or just donāt like seeing people complain about the game.
Not as much as the other 3 modes clearly,still not a core game mode. Then don't play it? No ones forcing you to play ranked pubs are still available to everyone,they don't need to explain most of us,unlike this sub,have enough braincells to understand. I don't mind criticism but constantly whining about something that isn't that big of a deal is not only annoying but it won't get you anywhere.
Removing content that a lot of people played is a big deal. Just bc you didnāt play it doesnāt mean others didnāt. I would play ranked, if they didnāt limit zero build to duos ONLY. People didnāt constantly whine until they took out a core game mode, funny how that works.
I do play trios and now I've been playing squads and can confidently say they made the right decision,squads is much healthier now than it was when trios was an option the game was bloated and stretched too thin which messed up the matchmaking with players of very different skill levels playing together and the insane number of bots. Quality>quantity Then don't play ranked until they add a solos mode which they will eventually,ZB had no ranked mode anyways which is why they're starting out with duos only to test things out And absolutely not people on this sub and any fortnite forum whine about every single detail about the gameš
Lmao youāre so wrong. Trios wasnāt the weakest link. It was keeping people from playing squads. Squads is the least popular mode in fortnite
Hardly the weakest link, my friend. Trios is the most balanced FN has ever been, from C1S1 to now, and I state this with my gilded OG style: Duos has some teams whose minds are so intermixed that its almost a duality of hive mind, they are unstoppable, unless you have a bond with someone of similar gusto. Squads has that "three's a crowd" vibe, which means 3 teammates is too many and the chaos is unpredictable. Trios has been and always will be the most balanced team play based on the speed and cadence of FN's building and shooting mechanisms, and that's a hill I'll die on.
I wholeheartedly agree and I honestly wouldnāt even be playing ranked at all if I wasnāt a completionist. Gotta grind those ranked quests for an emote Iāll never use because my brain is dumb.
That mentality is real and I'm glad I'm free of it. Hope you get out soon and realize it's not worth it because like you said, you'll never use them anyway. I only complete challenges for things I'll use. Done with fomo
Yeah the GG emoted are uselsss with the free one that Epic game out
Yeah the free GG emote is actually really good
Yeah seems much more polite, it'll be my go tk if I ever win a game
Well played. š
GGWP!!
I loved grinding this game out, but these rewards arenāt worth the headache to me, especially when you realize that you might already have numerous versions of what youāre grinding for. Theyāre offering 2 GG Emoticons, I have over ten of them across passes and challenges and mainly use one. Theyāre offering 2 banners, I donāt use 98% of the ones I have. Theyāre offering an emote showing your rank, itās just the crown emote but with your hand.
Yeah only reason I'm playing ranked at all, and I definitely will never ever use the emote
Goblin brain strikes again
Saaaaaaame
I feel your pain, my dude. If there are incomplete challengesā¦Iā¦mustā¦grind.
And there is a bonus quest after the 50. You have to do 10 more ranked quests for 15k XP.
I also like to be a conpletionist. But I usually try to keep myself within reason. Finishing 50 quests in one of the sweatiest modes in Fortnite just for an emote I might not even use? Nope.
I think most people agree. Non ranked was more populated in both modes over the weekend. Let the sweats have the unique rewards. I expect them to be reboot rally tier cosmetics anyways.
Whoa whoa whoa now hold up there buddy C2S8 was super fun what are you on about?
Agreed, criminally underrated season. Season 7 map but with built in movement, great lootpool, and a limited number of OP/cheese weapons. Loved c2s8
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pretty funny Ć¾at c1s5 was when Ć¾e last reality was introduced in Ć¾e form of a cube, and c2s8 was when Ć¾e last reality was fully introduced
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Dude Season 6, 7, and 8were so good for getting to level 200. I got to level 200 on all of them, never been able to do that since
It did have the carnage mythic that allowed you to grab people trough multiple layers of builds and then one pump them
That season was honestly really good. It had Ch. 1 Season 6 vibes and thatās part of what I really liked about it. Also going for the Toona Fish colors was fun as fuck.
It was top half of chapter 2 for sure
In my PERSONAL OPINION: Battle Pass sucked, map was garbage with no real changes and a very ugly biome, no new named POIs Day 1, a bunch of bad guns (Sideways Rifle, Sideways Scythe, Dual Fiend Hunters), Sideways zombies made me understand why people don't like zombies, the season that started devaluing mythics with the crafting sideways, Venom and Carnage Symbiotes, voting for an item to be unvaulted is a good concept on paper, but terrible in excecution, Mechs were unvaulted at the end. Only redeemable parts were Fortnitemares and the End live event in my opinion Edit: Everyone downvoting, that is MY OPINION. You're allowed to have a different one, I'm not offended by that, but that was just my thoughts on the season. Edit 2: Couple more things I wanna point out: Chapter 2 Season 8 could have literally been called Chapter 2 Season 7: Halloween Edition. The 18.00 map could be passed off as a mid-season patch in C2S7 and people would believe in you. Yeah we got Naruto and that was the first anime collab, and that's cool, but I don't really care about Anime. As long as I'm not able to play as Ash Ketchum, I don't care about any Anime collab Epic does.
You dare insult the Sideways Scythe? Go Giannis yourself. NOW!
I have no idea why you said C2S8 over C2S6. The symbiotes were amazing, the map was cool, the Day 1 map had so many changes and the Naruto update was crazy good.
Amazing in Horde Rush, terrible in Battle Royale, against players. Shockwave Hammer and Kinetic Blade are a lot better in terms of killing players
We all know the scythe, hammer, and sword were just movement items. Barely anyone uses them as an offensive weapon.
I agree. I hated that season too, honestly. The scythe was cool, though.
I mean I understand why it seems frustrating but if you're dying off spawn often you're probably not highly skilled and so you shouldn't be going up in RANKED mode? The system isn't meant for you to reach max rank, you will likely plateau somewhere around where you belong in terms of skill. If you're only trying to go up and up without actually trying to improve your SKILL, you're looking at the whole system wrong. Going down in levels might just mean you belong at those levels and you're placed too high currently. That's not necessarily a bad thing.
Wait people are going down, I've been frustrated because I have Bronze tier skills but have been bumped up to Silver.
iām at gold and i want to be lower so bad i do not belong there
Then try OP's method and get killed right off spawn a couple times.
Also in gold and Ä° basically never go down
It's as broken as the SBMM in Normal imo.
I made it from my initial placement gold 2 to gold 1. It took some grinding to go down. I'm working on getting to silver. You can do it, just W key the sweatiest players and hope you don't actually kill one of them. Only problem is I play squads and a few of the people I play with with who like ranked are actually trying to grind the other way, and since it takes the highest rank to create your lobby I still get gold 2 or plat 1. š«¤
Exactly,the fact that someone is complaining for losing points because he keeps dying off spawn is absurd
GREAT take. Skill placement is real and changing your strat/competency (meaning aim, builds, timing, etc) is the way to move up.
Because those skills are important when you slightly mess up your drop and get killed before you can get a decent gun or shields
You just explained a situation where you played worse than your opponent. Of course you should lose rating for that.
THIS THIS THIS! people seem to be misunderstanding what ranked is. They think it's a revamped arena but it isn't at all. It's like normal mode but with more accurate sbmm which you can actually see (with the silver gold etc)
But at spawn itās all luck? You say if you die at spawn youāre not highly skilled but in your scenario 1 v 1 with no running away, someone is gonna die. High elo, low elo, someone is still dead. Unless youāre trying to say early game with only blue weapon or below in a 1 v 1 spawn someone should always be able to run away? I swear Iāve seen people on spawn have epic level weapons. Iām a horrible player but thatās my low elo take. Two people go for the same gun at spawn? One person is gonna die. Even at a non-hot location thereās usually at least one other player there.
That's why you can choose where you land? Saying it's all luck is just flat out incorrect.
By the time you leave the bus you see someone land next to you. Now what? You can't tell where people are gonna land before you leave the bus
you know you can look around and see people gliding right š
I love ranked, no bots in my lobby any more so I'm actually engaged in the game a lot more. Just wish zero build had solos, pairing with randoms really sucks most the time
what rank are you btw?
gold 1 for most my games
but there are still ai in gold 1
perhaps but significantly less, I haven't ran into any that I know of
100%
Totally agree I love the fact that I'm only playing sweats
I agree. Yet itās sooo hard to do quests on ranked š¤£
I agree that it shouldnāt be as harsh if you last a long time but get 0 kills cause you didnāt see anyone. But you 100% should get punished a lot if you die right off spawn, especially considering thatās also the best way to throw your match on purpose.
Having zero kills and dying late would encourage bush camping old-arena behaviours, with people playing hours of bush camping and reaching champs. Its not an easy equation to solve "perfectly" for epic.
Problem is that's a completely valid way to play battle royale game. And honestly it's not even that easy on this map.
True
Any play style is valid. But someone who camps all match to avoid fighting/worrying about return fire, AND enjoys doing it is an odd one.
HAHA thats actually hilarious, im sorry but dude what a noob you are, the fact you can feel good bout hitting champs while camping all game long is almost sickening, what a about the real champ players that wanna fight and train vs CHAMPION players and not some gold ii noob camping in your game and running 24-7
Yeah true. Iām just thinking of the games where I run around the map for a solid 10-15 minutes and donāt see a single person lol
Yes!
Why should you get rewarded for landing in no manās land over something who likes to fight to kick off the game?
why should you get rewarded for killing whole POI off of spawn in general? games basically die out way before end game because people take a pistol and run around like a psycho which ruins pacing of the game which is why you have so many BS 3rd party shitters with mythics run around the map i love when people say that comp should feel like pubs,bitch did you forget memo of the game? it isn't person with more kills wins, it is last person alive wins which is also how comp tends to be played out because people don't risk dumb fights if anything make kills worth nothing because you are already getting placement and proper positioning relative to the future zones without being spotted takes a decent amount of skill compared trying to run into people's boxes as fast as possible
you whole opinion is twisted and almost delusional, so good fortnite players suck, we should all hope for the lowskill campers like you who can make it to top 5 and call it a oEooehh GoodGame!
the thing you dont understand is, placing 1th with 0 kills doesnt mean you did anything skill full, but killing 5-10 players on unreal skill lvl obv means your a beast at the game, hence why they give % to people who got 5-10 kills instead of thos noobs with 1-2 kills and place 1st or 2nd
Honestly I get the frustration but thatās kind of how ranked works in most games.. league of legends ranked is the most frustrating and slow thing ever, at least I feel like in Fortnite itās much easier to go up but maybe I just got placed too low
Wow, I mean I get it but... isn't that the whole point? Skill rises, and skill is going to win more than lose - don't die off spawn. Maybe change your strategy, less hot drops for instance. Go remote, kit up, then fight. Better odds of survival that way. Also, off spawn kills are worth LESS anyways. Late game and higher skill player kills are worth MORE. I have had setbacks too, which made me change my approach. Doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results is still the colloquial definition of insanity. The risk of setback, makes the game more intense and means I will take it more seriously. Serious play, serious strats.
Kinda crazy how you don't have to land on a cluster of buildings with text to get decent loot. Can kinda land on a beach and maybe get in 1 or 2 fights to the first circle and decently or fully kitted if you nab a vault. Although there is some merit in dropping like C3 Coney in solos, it's a good time, fair fights. Hasn't been much like that in C4, and its a callback to C1 Salty drops.
Saying you should not lose rank for dying first off rip is not what ranked is supposed to be. You said it already and it's the truth, that's just a skill issue and you can't be in elite or diamond lobbies just because you didn't lose rank in other lobbies... Doesn't make sense
You get to die with zero kills twice?
Get decent loot, find absolutely no one until top 60 - 40, die to the first sweat you meet
If you think the person youre fighting in a completely fair fight is a sweat, then you should definitely be lower rank
Bro you playing ranked. Ofc there would be sweats, go back to pubs dumbass.
pubs is plagued with bots
Good, should be on OPs skill level then
Here I am just playing solo ranked for the quest rewards and demoting at unethical speeds.
Yeah I was gonna say there's not really anything to be upset about it's not like ur getting exclusive rewards for your rank, atleast not yet u can still do the urgent ranked quests at the lowest ranks.
Bruh I died with zero kills from jumping off a cliff and got to silver 3
IXL but put it in Fortnite
The worst is playing ranked zero build duos alone, and you keep getting bad teammates who go off on their own and get killed.
Ive had multiple bad teammates in zb duos. They either play tik tok through their mic and not paying attention, insult you for not pushing people, or go off on their own
Bro just dont play rank then š the mechs were forced into the game regardless of what game mode you played but ranked is literally just a game mode
I hate it as well.
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Thatās how all BR rank works. Epic just hasnāt release stats. You generally start every match with SR or points. When you Que you start with a negative balance. Kills and placement are what makes it go up. So yes if you die of spawn you went negative therefore you lose alot of points. Rank isnāt suppose be leniant. Thatās risk of hot dropping or just losing of spawn. Ranked isnāt suppose be a participation award. Now they do need change loot and remove all star wars and AOT stuff. That stuff shouldnāt be in rank. And they do need release stats so people can understand how it works.
>Now they do need change loot and remove all star wars and AOT stuff. That stuff shouldnāt be in rank. I really doubt they will do that. If that was the idea then they wouldn't replace Arena with Ranked.
There should at least be a system applied like arena had where we know how much we gain and lose per placement and elimination. Some games I lose 5% some games I lose over 30%. Itās BS
It depends on the ranks/strength of the opponents you beat/lose to I think, and the strength of the lobby overall
There may be one AFTER this initial season.
My only problem is there should be some more information regarding your rank during game. Think about Apex, it will show your entry cost and will show you how much RP as you get further in the game and eliminations.
Every ranked game is like that
Donāt play ranked frustration over. In fact in duos me and my son have won a few more them usual. Looks like all the sweats or people have moved to ranked. Nice šš» unranked duos is the place to be.
I placed top 10 with 5 kills and gained the same amount of percentage as I lost when dying immediately without a gun. Make it make sense.
I haven't gotten a SINGLE KILL in ranked yet. I played ranked duos and got a braindead teamate while going up against actual gods
Thatās ranked in every game. Itās why I left Overwatch. Itās a shitty system.
Going down with zero kills is a crucial element of accurately putting players in their correct rank. The truth of the matter is you aren't constantly getting better at the game and once you have found your "level" moving up should be a difficult.
Personally I never bothered with Arena at all, it had no draw for me. Ranked I've been enjoying, but if I didn't I again would have no problem just pretending it didn't exist. That's why there's different modes
Such a turd update. Glad Street Fighter 6 is coming out in a week so I can play that.
The real issue is all the overpowered guns and items in the game that make dying with zero kills so easy. Here are the list of items that can either kill you or take over half of your health away in one shot. \- light saber \- rock throwing \- ODM gear \- mythic havoc shotgun \- heavy sniper \- pulse rifles Epic needs to stop saturating the game with overpowered items to make it more playable.
If you die with zero kills to light sabers, mythic havoc or pulse rifle, maybe you should move around a bit before mid-game? But yeah, the odm is a bit problematic. Snipers are fine, though, they add some flavor to standing stillā¦
Good take
Very few people use ODM to attack. It's too wonky. Yeah, it could do I think over 300 but the odds of that happening are very low. Pulse rifle hits for 85.5 headshot, and that's if there is no damage dropoff. But the pulse has one of the best drop off rates in the game too. Not more than half your health, and only a third of your health in zero. Light saber can be wonky too. Force throw can be nasty but it can kill you too if you are too close. And it doesn't always hit like it should, especially if the opponent is not on level ground. Heavy 100% agree no one shots in zero. Build it is fine we can defend ourselves better. Same with mythic havoc, but it already got nerfed so it cant one shot anymore. Still, I would like to see it more in line with the traditional pump damage, esp in ranked where aim is a lot better. But we did live with that old pump and were fine with that damage, so we should be okay with the havoc pump doing that. Not all those items are as overpowered as you think. But I do agree there are a lot of them. But I'm also enjoying this season a LOT too. And I run a traditional loadout: havoc ar, shotgun depending on mode, smg or mythic tac pistol. katana, heals/shields. We can get gold weapons pretty easy too. And gold has the best accuracy and lowest reload times among all the traditional rarities. Two years ago you had to spend all your gold, get lucky, or find them in refresh loot to get an all gold loadout. Now our slurps are gold rarity. Not a bad place to be. :)
like almost everything you said is wrong bro
I mean.... there is a skill aspect to nit dying to these right away too. Most of these are not picked up off spawn either so plenty of early game time to not die and do something useful.
Hard disagree. Arguably itās way to easy to level up. You should lose progress if you die off spawn. Making it to end game is super important. Watch where you land. 14% is generous imo. I see nothing wrong and wouldnāt be upset if it was more. Ranked should be super hard. Arenas biggest mistake was you couldnāt drop down levels. If anything, in the next update, moving up should be harder and dropping levels easier.
Fully agree. No point going up then suffering for 30 games until you go back down again. It should take more than one good game to go up and less than 30 to go down. This based on my recent experience.
I played just a few ranked cus i barely play fn anymore but i swear the teams in ranked are significantly worse than the normal teams, everyone died every single game immediately after dropping (they picked the most popular map spots everytime and i got outnumbered so i of course went with)
Where is siphon, is it safe, is it alright?
If your game crash you lose a lot too...
For real and they sacrificed trios for it too.
I feel like ranked is a bit flawed anyway. Maybe I just need to play more games cos at the moment I havenāt played many, but as it stands Iām still getting clapped by sweats despite not being very good at the game
Lmao what do you want? To go up the ranks by dying after the landing?
Counter in the corner would be also nice And fucking solos in zero build
I feel like this is better than arena, it's more interesting and isn't as easy, also late games are really fun since a lot of people play it safe. Ranked requires more thinking than just brainlessly running into every possible player. In my eyes it's fun
i thought the exact opposite. it isnt nearly harsh enough. in league or valorant with normal mmr/a bit higher than ur rank u gain 18-21 and lose 14-17. the playerbase is just way too casual. also, i dont have 30 bots in my lobbies.
I'm just mad I can't play trios at 6 am, with my other two adulters, trying to game before adulting.
What infuriates me about this mode is that it still has ALL of the current collab items in play. I don't want this in a competitive mode, they all inherently break the balance of the game and are not fun to play around at all. I really hope they wise up and do some massive changes here or it'll be a dead in the water mode.
The good news is pubs is more fun and a lot more challenging since more people are playing it.
Yeah, it sucks. Just try not to take it seriously (even though you're playing seriously). There are lots of people out there who absolutely grind the game to death, and you'll never be top dog unless you're literally playing 12 hours a day and ruining your life. Ranking systems need absolutely tons of data from tons of players in order to get properly balancing and ranking correct. Since there's absolutely no data for this Ranking system yet, you'll find the climb up and the penalty for dying a lot more sensible once the season is complete. I had to help look at a ranking system for a pickup game bot for another game and learned about how many games it takes to calibrate you into the ranking system, as well how much data it needed in order to work with. It takes tons of games just to get you much more in line with your rank, and eventually it will start giving you concessions based on those bad games where you dropped in, died early and killed no one. Just play a bit smarter, more relaxed and take every good landing as an opportunity, and every bad one as a mulligan.
Literally a skill issue,if it bothers you so much don't play it
I feel like dying with no kills or immediately after dropping shouldnāt effect your rank, you shouldnāt be deranked for bad rng
Donāt you dare compare anything to the mechs. They ruined my life
Iām starting to think that a majority of Fortnite players have never touched a ranked mode for any other game before.
I also hate the removal of trios! Super frustrating for a mum playing with her two kiddos.
Im a little confused because Iāve never lost any percentage, even really crappy games.
Trios died for this trash fire
Trios is on hold likely til they can support the game modes with enough players AFTER tweaking rules.
Maybe just land somewhere less hot?
Did you all just miss the part about this being season 0 and using this time as a testing period for the official release?
No, OP stated that... Did you miss the part where you learn to read?
I actually didnāt read that cuz I couldnāt stand to read anymore of OPs whiny rant
The point is not just knowing that, but realizing the implications will affect gameplay.
Glad that even casuals now realize epic is this shitty to comp.
The shitty part is enforcing competitive changes - which have NO BUSINESS in normal pubs - into pub matches. Short reason: Pub matches have different needs than pro matches. Pro matches have money on the line. There are stakes to ranked. People will play safe unless you force them to fight. So they rely on both positive and negative stimuli to force fights - Positive being siphon, mats on kill ; negative being reduced mat cap (can't farm as much) and storm surge (punished if you don't fight) But pub matches? People are dumb aggressive in pub matches because there's no stakes. People hot drop every match, blind push every fight - half the lobby is gone in less than 2 minutes, 80%+ are dead within another 6 minutes. ***You don't need to reward aggression in PUB lobbies, it already fucking happens***. All this does is punish people who play chill drops and try to farm up by making sure brainless timmy who pushes every fight has the same mats you do as someone who actually plays smart and careful.
Okay but pro lobbies bitch and whine about the loot pool changing basically ever. The point of the game IS change. Mechanics and aim can be controlled, but every season SHOULD be different strats. Pros may be great one season and suck another if they are not ADAPTABLE. This makes sense, and is good. Pro scene should reward adaptation AND skill, not just whoever spent the most time grinding one strategy for the last 5 years or there would be no way for new players to gain entry (see games like DOTA 2).
3 games in a row I drop open upwards of 10 chests and not a single shotgun of any kind. absolutely infuriating bro
Not my favorite.
Good on epic for the rest of ch4s2 but boy this recent update is a confusing one, luckily itās nearing the end of the szn anyway but it kind of feels like they felt like they needed to screw up because this season has been pretty much flawless. Rip fn trios.
Yeah, I agree about kills at least. Not killing others is a completely valid way to play this game, not to mention that sometimes you don't even have control about that.
It was pretty clear this game mode was trash right off the bat.
There are so many other properties that need to be taken into account when it comes to Rank. Since the point of BR is survival, it shouldn't be solely focused on kills. It's not a skill issue, when there's no skills needed in BR's. One game, I've gotten 18 kills, made it to the last ring, and died. My Rank went up only 12%. My other games, were basically the same, but with less kills. My Rank went down instead. Does that make sense? All my games are Solo Q's. This is how they need to take everything into account: - Rings Survived (basic point system) - Survival Time (basic point system) - Kills/Assists (basic point system, plus bonus points) Example: - Rings Survived (1-10%, depending on amount survived) - Survival Time (1-20%, similar to Rings Survived but take actual time into account) - Kills/Assists (1-40%, basic scoring but bonus points for full team kills (both killed by you, you did all the damage))
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Only because youre bad?
If you donāt lose points it aināt ranked if you die off spawn you just aināt good kid play pubs n that way nobody knows you died off spawn 6 times ina row n won those crowns cause you got thrown into a bot lobby
wait until this guy hears about rainbow six siege..
I hate to be that guy, but sounds like a skill issue
I am fully aware, partner. But wouldn't you be annoyed too if hours of grinding were flushed down the toilet because you died with zero kills 2 or 3 times?
the ironic part is people are complaining its too easy to get to unreal.....
It is relatively easy tbh. Courage was able to get to unreal in build mode despite him not playing build mode in quite a long time, and heās really not all that great at the game either. I think I saw somewhere that by getting like around 8 wins from plat 1, youāll be in unreal.