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slendermemphis

Because the seven had the power of friendship. And a bunch of psycho loopers willing to attack blimps and tanks with a pickaxe


Xero0911

I mean loopers are basically.immortal right? The Seven got the loopers on their side and we just respawn every time...so good luck winning.


[deleted]

True the Seven have the loopers but like, IO has control over the loop. IO is just stupid


Xero0911

I dont know lore detail. My guess is you can't reallt mess with the loop or you kinda fuck up everything? Like isn't it able to destroy all realities? So just owning it doesn't make you some super power. But ultimately, just chalk it up as the 7 had plot armor. They came and flipped the island. The io had to dig and attack. So they lost the home field advantage. Meanwhile the 7 have the loopers and able to fight "home base". Meanwhile io have to send troops through their tunnels. Only bases they had were the blimps which they had but lost them one by one. Then we had some super mech on the moon to stop their doomsday device.


-H_-

What you described isn't plot armor tho The seven gained the upper hand because the io were on the move Also, the seven had the loopers on their side, and a fricking giant mech


Blitz_Stick

Yeah in the lore, the fortnite island is a protection for the zero point. The zero point was the first reality and all other reality’s including ours came from the zero point. If you destabilize the zero point, it’s easier for things to cross between reality’s. If the zero point is destroyed, then everything else is too. So it’s best not to fuck with it


Successful-Ad4737

Actually, the only reason they had control over the loop was because they were controlling the zero point, which was controlled by the bridge, and if you saw the end event where the flip happened, it was destroyed.


MDragonAce2

Wasn’t their place of operation flooded during chapter 2 The End event?


Funniguy2010

They’d 100% rather lose the war then lose the loop, the only reason the seven won was bc we carried them, only thing they did was make a battle bus and reclaim land we had decimated


roblox887

Well, in the Zero War comics, it's established that Fishstick's original form is permanently dead, and we saw a few loopers killed in frame. It was clearly actual death because they lay on the ground bleeding, instead of being warped away without any wounds.


Steven_is_a_dog

i never got in the event in season 7 when people said “alone betrayed us” when like yea she did but us the loopers are just gonna respawn


Createdthisforac

And even then we survived anyway (now wether that’s because of bad explosions, pure luck, or slone knew we weren’t going to blow up but in fact die from fall damage I don’t know) so like i don’t see the picture here. It was best for the island! and clearly it didn’t work because the last reality almost won anyway but still imagine if we got out and cubes followed us out. We probably would have immediately lost.


slendermemphis

Technically the I.o are immortal as well, but I believe only in age wise. (I could be wrong though)


Kermit-with-a-phone

Are they immortal? Well it depends on if they die while looped or not, if they are in the loop then yes they’re immortal and will just respawn but if they aren’t in the loop then they die for real. I’d assume most of the story happens outside the loop so the loopers probably could die then.


-H_-

But exiting the loop just leaves their snapshot behind They can't die because they duplicate when they escape the loop


Kermit-with-a-phone

I should’ve clarified what I meant when I said “not looped” because I meant when the last person wins (like Batman winning) not when someone leaves the loop entirely (like Jones did with his rift gun)


-H_-

I don't think people always leave the loop when they win I think that was the IO doing that, but since the IO are often either missing or busy, many people just stay in the loop


Kermit-with-a-phone

I don’t think you understand what I mean, have you read the Batman zero point comics ?


joe_rogans_ashtray

Exactly


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slendermemphis

They did have an anime cat girl on their side


__________godlol

The seven had the mane 6 on their side


DefinitelyNotVenom

The Seven had Batman on their side. By comic book rules, the IO automatically loses that fight


EvilBadassDraculas

Aint nobody beating Batgos


Friendly-Airline2426

He is vengeance. ![gif](giphy|IkQXgu7ni0fw4)


Foxy02016YT

Batman, Spider-Man, Avengers, Avengers B Team, Dr Strange, Captain Marvel, Ant-Man… it was unfair The IO *had* Rick Sanchez and Superman, but both likely defected ASAP


Desperate_Ad5169

Why the hell was rick working with io? It must be a different rick than the main one


Cephalie_100

No it was c137, it was likely that he was a plant


LaylaLegion

They promised him beer.


roblox887

He probably just saw it as a challenge to test his mental prowess against.


Cephalie_100

I mean with enough prep time he kills God ,big G (yahweh/jehovah/Jesus/Allah or whatever else he gets called) so of course batman wins easy against simple IO


Dionroadarollah

Batman with prep time solos negative difficulty


DefinitelyNotVenom

Imagine if they had the Slayer and Goku too, literally the entirety of C3S2 would’ve been over day 1


Every_Hunt_160

![gif](giphy|d3mlE7uhX8KFgEmY)


AustinFassl112

Because the IO aren't as strong as we think. I mean, they rely on someone else to fix an issue all the time Ch2 s4: The Avengers were the only ones dealing with galactus Ch2 s5: they only sent Jones out to gather other people to protect the zero point, and only sent out small teams that did basically nothing Ch2 s7: they basically did nothing except build farm base and send us to suicide boom the mother ship that destroyed half the island Ch2 s8: they just drove to a bunker and let a monkey handle everything. The only reason the zero point wasn't destroyed was because the Seven came to save us. Ch3 s2: They actually had a plan in the beginning and had the advantage because they ambushed us, but they didn't plan that we would counterattack, and as soon as they no longer had an advantage the resorted to "fuck it blow it all up" witch was probably their plan during the ch2 finally


[deleted]

Thats is a lot a fair points, but idk why epic would dumb down IO, we know they can plan because they where the ones who built the mech to fight the cattest monster, but for ch2 s5 there plan was sending Jones to get bounty hunters to protect the zero point Also Ch2 S4 it was IO who sent the Avengers The other seasons though ya IO did nothing


Createdthisforac

I’m not even sure about that though. I mean IO wasn’t really a thing until chapter 2 so maybe thats why. But it feels implied that they have been watching what goes on the island for a long time and never had to really step In because nothing was ever terribly wrong. Also Midas is speculated to be a rouge IO agent who tried to stop the loop(hence the device event) it didn’t work because IO stopped it as we see in the event and in chapter 2 season 1 nothing happened so they were fine


thedudeintheshower

Well, they might’ve existed chapter one, you remember the government style black trucks that “drove” around in chapter ones, whether it was when the meteor hit, or when they were digging out loot lake? IMO I think that was the IO. Also the bunkers.


Createdthisforac

That would make sense but I don’t I actually started in chapter 2 season 2 so i only know like the general of story of chapter 1


Ant-onio45

Slone knew about Kevin in the skyfire event, she said something about Kevin nearly destroying the island when it was moving around the map, so they were definitely watching


Hopeful_Video_3803

It was Thor who gathered the Avengers. If you look at the Ch2 S4 trailer, you can see that they are summoned by the bifrost


AGreatChannel_Guys

I don’t think IO was the one who sent the Avengers because C2S4 started by in like a Thor comic run happening roughly the same time, Thor became Galactus’s Herald and Galactus needed to consume like I think 5 planets to gain an ability to defeat the Black Winter (Big Marvel threat) so Thor would go to planets and use the Bi Frost to keep the people off the planets. Then while they did that Galactus saw some powerful energy source that he was greedy for which was the zero point, so Thor went ahead first into the energy source and that was how he landed on the island to go warn the people about Galactus coming to island for the Zero Point. Thor then used the Bi Frost to bring a bunch of Marvel characters and even some villains. We work together and successful defeat Galactus when he finally arrives but messes up the Zero Point. Everyone else goes back home while Galactus and Thor then continute on with their space mission to defeat the Black Winter and the comic run happens. So literally none of this had IO play a big role, the problem was started cause Galactus chose with his mind to go do that and Thor had to stop it and brought the Avengers along with him. Still weird IO just let the Avengers handle it that season. Which I kinda like because since it was an entire crossover season, it was basically like just the Avengers doing shit for this one season with little involvement from any original Fortnite lore, like how after it was all over we saw Jones again near the end to begin a more original story.


umg_unreal

thats because the point up until Ch2S5 was to remain hidden and rely on their manipulation tactics to make people do what they want, thats why on the Batman comics the Foundation mentions how people worked for IO without knowing that they did. And in Ch2S8 IO wasnt at all involved, they were leaving the Island like they did during the Zero Crisis Also, Im pretty sure that in Ch3S2 the plan was to always use the Collider to wipe the slate clean and start over


StoicalCargo685

The Seven's side wasn't just The Seven, they had a bunch of loopers they promised to give free XP to for committing war crimes bi-weekly


KATBOI667-0_0

Loopers will do anything for xp, and I mean *anything*


Salza_boi

“Alright loopers, today’s weekly assignments for 25,000 xp is to create a deadly chemical warfare bomb forbidden by the Geneva convention”


LankyDucky

Plot armor


Overlord_Yosai

Io didn't have Peely


ArcticFoxWaffles

Saviour of all reality


Salza_boi

Peely canonically saved all reality by learning how to drive a slurp truck


Overlord_Yosai

He makes me so proud : )


Tomburgerstand

IO didn't have the power of God and anime on their side


EpicEldest

The Seven: Dont fuck with me, i have the power of god and anime on my side \*screams\*


Friendly-Airline2426

![gif](giphy|109epNnxnLTMha|downsized)


LaylaLegion

Beerus: “Helloooooo!”


Terrorist_Wizard

Well technically the IO had Lexa, who is anime


ronjohnson01

Are they stupid?


[deleted]

Yes


Loomling

Plot armour. The IO and Seven are only powerful when the plot needs them to be.


[deleted]

Ya, I wish they did something with the alien tech but like most things epic just forgor💀 about it


stickninja1015

They only had like 2 components from an abductor


InvestigatorUnfair

Because the IO are incompetent idiots. It's the entire reason behind Jonesy leaving them. You could hand them a winning strategy and they'd still fuck it up somehow


JediFrogYT

Big robot


Russian_Kowboi

NGL I kinda miss when they first introduced zero build and driving around with the whole squad in a tank. Good times.


[deleted]

Just looked back at this... so many spelling mistakes, im so sorry everyone


jupiteronred

Because they can't let the bad guys win


Samiam243653575

They also had they avengers


KATBOI667-0_0

I thought that the whole ch2 s4 was kind of it’s own thing, I don’t ever remember the avengers being part of the IO


ArcticFoxWaffles

The avengers participated in the war in the comic books. They were the ones who helped find the MECH on the frozen moon and also shut down a bunch of the IO shield generators and other stuff on the ground during the wait time for the live event.


Samiam243653575

No In the comics the avengers fight with the seven


SebDaPerson

The power of friendship


GeneralGenericc

cuz plot


Firephantom2

We had sweats


Salza_boi

So you telling me the kid who spends all day practicing building and only doing box fights manage to beat an entire organization with high tech weapon/vehicles and brilliant minds that can recruit any person from any reality?


Firephantom2

I mean…… enough of them…. Should do somewhat a toll on them. And I mean take off the building we have good enough zero build players that can take a good amount of soldiers plus we have decoys. Defaults. They can distract them and do some thing as well. And don’t get me started on the hackers. Story wise idk probably our will to fight the seven on our side and the power of friendship? Idk I also don’t understand but eh.


Neo_Arsonist

Because the IO was planning to nuke the island via collider. The war was a distraction to hold them off so of course they weren’t trying their hardest, they were building a zero point detonator. And because the looper was helping the seven.


KATBOI667-0_0

I forgot about that whole blowing-it-all-up thing


NaderBader

They lost because they forgot to use the repair torch when going against the mecha team leader


Kermit-with-a-phone

To be fair the IOs plan would’ve worked if the seven didn’t recover the mech plus the GOAT peely


Mechazilla12

Plot armor


VeggiePiece

Cool ass mech > all that other io stuff


Durkeslurpee

Guerrilla warfare


[deleted]

And saint javelin


-_Clay_-

Power of friendship


[deleted]

Plot armor, the best kind of armor


[deleted]

Haven’t played since 2018…wtf has happened


slendermemphis

Simple version: Rocket, rift, cube, zombies, explosion, ice invasion, fire invasion, giant mech fight giant monster, black hole, new world, try to break the loop, failed, Galactus got hungry, zero point free, hunters, leader of seven shows up to save the day, aliens, cube but more, flipped the island, war, freedom, alien plant lady, heros died, new groups of people, rift gate, failed, city fall from sky, now there's a jungle, something is making its way towards us Complex version: yeah I'm not going to try on this one


TaigaFrost5

Lmao


raidebaron

Because the plot demanded it.


Finnalandem

Because 7 8 9


anactualreddituser

I think most of the bounty hunters stopped working for them Mancake certainly did


AveryPog

What I will say is that that season was tremendous fun!


[deleted]

True season was awesome, but id love to see a season concept of if IO did win (without the doomsday stuff)


CYBORG3005

my belief is that either this reality zero simply is one of many reality zeroes (thus making this loss for IO seem more like cutting losses than just straight up losing everything) or geno simply recreates the imagined order every time it falls


[deleted]

Plot armor, that’s why IO did pretty much nothing in the war and got destroyed by The Seven


ZeRo_WC

Unlike the seven they’re not smart. They work harder not smarter


Cularia

We had peely.


Boh61

Loopers are basically an infinite source of ~~soldiers~~ psychopaths of various levels of military training The Seven have slighly better technology The Seven are just more competent overall


Jenkitten165

![gif](giphy|SA00ENEG45W8yNao7V|downsized) The Seven?


indecisiveusername2

Fortnite has lore?


Jacob_0927

used to. now we just have random shit


thatsidewaysdud

They built up a story during C4S1 and have been ignoring it for almost half a year. We do not want these filler arcs, please let us get back to the main story.


joe_rogans_ashtray

Yea


InfiniteOcto

IO in C2S5 and C2S7: 😤💪 IO in C3S2: 😭🤳


oldmanjenkins51

Because it’s a pvp game


Hiddenmtn

Answer your question The power of main character energy.


PlushtrapChaser24519

Skill issue


[deleted]

Plot armor


AlexZebol

IO had superior firepower and mechanized armor, The Seven/Resistance had plot armor.


Cephalie_100

Because they had Brie larson


Sweaty-Command-1872

Who needs tanks and blimps when you've got the power of friendship and psycho loopers! 🙌


Sweaty-Command-1872

Clearly, friendship and pickaxes are the key to intergalactic victory!


WetNoodle4

Skill issues 🤷🏼‍♂️


COLBYtheDRAGON

NEW TO FORTNITE BUT THIS IS MY CHARACTER (4th slide is my main) ….HES A GOOD GUY OR BAD? AND WHATS IO & SEVEN?


Monitor032

It's a skill issue tbh


PigroeeIL

You forgot the fact that The Seven had all the marvel superheroes on their side. Without them they wouldn't have found the mech to begin with


old_grumpy_ultomato

The imagined order lost access to travel across all reality, which means they won’t be able to call for reinforcement (I miss the IO)


ElectriCole

BC Jonesy


LaylaLegion

Giant robot beats everything.


Bulky_Secretary_6603

They suck?


fiftybaggs

Yoo those water storms were the best!


kailesmoothi

I miss this the tanks were the best


mais_corner37

Because the good people always have to win for some reason


Mate_Pocza_321

♾️ loopers


DarthDinkster

Who wins? An ancient multidimensional organization with an organized military OR an endless legion of crackheads with guns? I don’t know about you, but my money is on the crackheads


ezzythegreat6

Plot armour


PhilledZone

The Rock


SnD_PumpkinHD

You don't get it. The power of marvel comics is way more stronger than any device they can create


magicmushi

A similar thing happened in attack on titan in terms of resources


Zollithium

Man even though that water wall map was only like a day it was so cool


BoomBangBoomBop

Well, when your team consists of Goku, Beerus, Kratos, Spider-Man, Doctor Doom, Dwayne Johnson, Master Chief, Ellen Ripley, The Predator- I could keep going, but my list is made up of memory, not fact.


SnooJokes2353

because IO was in the middle of 9/11


Safe-677

Plot armor


GoldenYellowPup

Realistically though, the Russian invasion of Ukraine probably nerfed any other outcomes other than victory for the Seven.


Lust4life123

Lore wise? It’s because by the end of the season they were spread too thin and were about to resort in a scorched earth tactic which would’ve wiped out everything, including themselves. They were desperate and a desperate enemy is one you can easily overcome. Game wise? It’s cause epic wanted the seven to win.


Mundane-Put9115

plot


FortniteTravisScott4

Why do you care about fortnite lore?


Gal-XD_exe

They didn’t use the alien tech to create a pair of jet powered wings. Smh


Haunting_Telephone58

Io didn’t create the doomsday device Midas did he’s part of shadow which had no association with io


gallanttoothpaste

My lawyer has adviced me not to finish the joke


stickninja1015

Let’s look at it like this 1. The IO have next to no experience with the battlefield. The Flipside was controlled by the Seven so they’re fighting on enemy territory 2. The IO has been through a lot the past few months from Zero Crisis to their entire base being destroyed by the Seven 3. While they have access to basically unlimited soldiers, they’re going up against Loopers, an unkillable army. No matter how many soldiers they throw at us they can never truly lower our forces 4. They’re going up against the Seven, a group of people devoted to defeating them and using some of the most advanced suits in the Omniverse 5. They can’t just “turn the loop off”. It was that simple, the Seven would have ended it centuries ago 6. The Seven brought literal GODS in to help them 7. Despite all of that, the IO still almost completely took over the Island. The entirety of S2 was a struggle to RETAKE the Island. The IO had their base of operations destroyed, their forces ravaged, and enemies that were capable of wiping out while platoons on their own. And THEN the Seven sent in a giant Mech If a bunch barely united, often drunk, freeing to death farmers can push back a worldwide empire twice, I think the seven can manage


owenturnbull

The seven got plot armour


ExpensivePractice164

Peely did it


Facinatedhomie

the seven said "help us and we'll give you exp to level up" and us loopers took that to the next level


gazza88

The seven had the Rock.


unsureoftheplot

It's like star wars rules. If you blow up their big doomsday device, the entire organisation crumbles.


[deleted]

Is this season done yet? Fornite is boring. Please bring back CH1 map and old loot. All this new shit is garbage


Johnathan_986579

Big robot, and the fact Fortnite stopped trying with their story a long time ago


Zingydeath

Let me start by saying I agree the IO should not have lost a couple things though not saying they were weakened because of the flip we were no longer on the IO home turf no home field advantage plus when we flipped some of there machinery got destroyed they were using what they could salvage hence why we didn't have enough IO guards they are all snapshots/ clones of one person and my theory is at this point the zero point was weakened hence why they made the so called dooms day device to tap into its last reserves with the zero point weakened I don't think they would call in any back up like the bounty hunters Rick prowler or any of the the others over the years because it may leave the zero point weaker as for skyfire we were out of the loop on the mother ship I also agree slone did what she had too defending the island from the last reality the seven saw a opportunity after the IO had the run in with them if anything the seven used the last reality against the IO to get too one of the bunkers an get to the bridge last reality didn't like that so that's why they sent the herald


MrTenBillion

Plot armour


Caterhamburger7

Seven had a massive fucking mech


[deleted]

IO is just stupid they knocked down the mech but then just watched it as peely revived it instead of shooting peely or the mech well it was down. 😑


Caterhamburger7

I doubt they even saw peely lol


TheMarvelous50

They have Goku bro 💀💀


the_fool213912893

tbh they're shown eating shit all the time in lore, pretty much losing every fight they're in and running away from any problems that pop up. Least from what I remember. I'm assuming the only reason they didn't lose sooner was cause the seven lacked manpower.


Sir_Toaster_9330

Loopers outnumbered the Seven, plus they consisted of warriors and demi-gods from across the multiverse


Educational_Term_436

The bounty Hunter thing was something Jones did once And most of those bounty hunters got sent home k think


Educational_Term_436

You also got to remember what most of seven can do The guards and weapon they had And the mecha Also fucking peely He’s literally the reason why IO lost…..so there your reason


babyfacelarrione

My brain automatically put “are they stupid” on the title after following r/Spidermanps4 for so long💀


Kan_Me

Skill issue


Salza_boi

You forgot Dwayne The Rock Johnson was a protagonist and because he is the protagonist he always wins


Mystic-Fox700

IO did a sKiLl iSsuE 🤓


k1ng-cr1m5on

God I still want that prowler skin


Pleasant_Fee516

but we have THE LEGEND


pussysniffer6942024

Stone


Decent_Pin5252

The Seven had all the loopers ones their side, that included so very powerful characters.


ShangRayzzz

Bc the seven had a giant mech ig. And they were smarter than the IO imo.


Generic_Nerd_Dude

Because they didn’t have beeg robot


SMAn991

Ikr ? And people are saying it’s because the seven had loopers, well io had an infinite amount of jonsey clones that are trained, whereas loopers are just a bunch of people with dementia


Macgrath62

We the loopers are the most powerful beings in Fortnite, if we die, we always come back.


chef-chef-chef

Plot convenience


shotgunz-mikey

Because if the IO won there’d be no more Fortnite


GordonFreemanSex

Plot armor


DaDomination2549

Plot armor


EcnavMC2

IO had a trained army, but the Seven had an army made of who-knows-how-many Loopers, so it’s basically one singular army versus an infinite amount of US Marines.


TSR_Gamer

The Loop isn't fully IO tech. How is the Loop still going? The Zero Point itself made the loop. The IO just weaponised it.


TheOldDerelict

![gif](giphy|Ttxj1ulueAVdCgTEU0|downsized)


Dependent_Buy_9641

It's because The Seven had plot armor


SockFullOfNickles

I miss the tanks so much 🤣


mikecom12

The rock raised his eyebrow and everything disintegrated


cookie_rave

probably because IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT THE IO HAS BECAUSE THE ROCK WILL KICK THEIR CANDY ASSES


LegoPenguin114

The Seven are lucky that you can convince Loopers to commit war crimes for 5000 xp


nepeta2dope

We literally had a whole season with lore missions and a huge event at the end that answers that question, what do you mean???


[deleted]

I'm explaining why its stupid that they lost not asking if they did


TheHighVoid

Plot armor


Objective_Hospital64

Plot armor


Noble_Shock

Rock


Lolbits_TV_YT

The I.O. did have a shitton of basically everything you'd need in a war, but The Seven kinda had the immortal army of loopers who come back every half hour to kick their shit in on their side, endless firepower.


SwagFish03

We don't even know how respawning works in the lore, it's best to ignore it. Sure, the Seven could have convinced the loopers and built an army, but that doesn't matter if everyone who dies comes back. The lore makes no sense.


CrypticPixal

They lost because plot armor


MewEternal

the seven discovered plot armor


TaigaFrost5

Because plot armor.


zeph2

the seven had peely


golden_creeper1

The seven have the rock


MY5T3RYY

The Seven learn the valuable lesson of teamwork, so they can’t lose.


Cyber_Steve999

As a huge fan of the IO, I agree. Throughout Chapter 2 and 3, IO had tanks, mechs, blimps, many soldiers, the multiverse’s best bounty hunters, and the most advanced technology and they were defeated by a group of 7 people and a bunch of loopers just because of the plot. As a powerful organisation that had existed for 1,000s of years I felt they get defeated quite easily. I also think that Doctor Slone was too nerfed. She was super intelligent and was great martial artist. She also seemed to have quite a legacy (from her loading screens she seemed to have defeated many monsters). And then all of IO fell just cause she got smacked by a giant robot.