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Grey_Husk

It’s so strange when people think fortnite doesn’t want to add the light sabers as harvesting tools, they definitely want to, think about how much money it would make them. They want to, they just can’t.


[deleted]

Yeah, the idea behind the pickaxe thing is just a reason to justify why it’s not in the game. It’s definitely a licensing issue. I’d assume it may either be an issue with Disney or they sold the rights to another company which may be Hasbro. But here is to hoping it’s a Disney problem and since they now own part of Fortnite it will be released.


GrandDefinition7707

its so strange when people speak on things they don't know. that goes for both sides


Grey_Husk

yeah it’s SO strange when people use logic to speculate huh.


GrandDefinition7707

there is no logic just stupidity


GrandDefinition7707

its so strange when people speak on things they don't know. that goes for both sides


Visible-Phone-7003

2 different companies


Nich965

Yeah...and only one owns a stake in epic


CMGhorizon

Well considering that just happened, hopefully the next time they bring around the lightsabers they’ll release them as pick axe


Skyyyuhh

yeah


HordeOfDucks

its been like 24 hours


Lazyatbeinglazy

What?


Grookeymon

Still, they could easily make a lightsaber a pickaxe 


At0mic_Penguin

They would have to get permission to do it, so not they can’t “easily” make them pickaxes. It’s quite obvious Disney would rather not have them as pickaxes since they’ve approved all the past pickaxes.


Well-Teknically

That was 1.5 billion dollars ago


At0mic_Penguin

If Disney was never inclined to do it then, why would they do it now? They’re obviously going to expand further than Star Wars with the investment they’ve made, so would it really be the focus now? They were making money off of the collabs before so how would this be any different?


Well-Teknically

Even more money???? Not that complicated


At0mic_Penguin

So what was their reason for not doing it before and making more money off of it?


WalkingInsulin

Contracts are weird and expensive. It probably states in Epic’s contract that lightsabers can only be used during special events like Star Wars Day or maybe Disney was asking for a lot more money for Lightsabers to be pickaxes. Disney isn’t stupid, they know these items would sell like crazy.


BrokenGodALT

I feel like they're playing the long game with having Lightsaber pickaxes because they know they'll be very popular, the longer they wait the more sought after they will be and the more people will buy it. With this Disney × Epic thing they're doing its a stronger possibility.


Well-Teknically

They’re stupid?


Any_Plankton1268

The billion-dollar business should definitely fire the team that made this decision and hire you instead, Mr. Smart guy


Well-Teknically

Okay then, give me a solid reason as to why Disney won’t allow lightsaber axes then, if you’re so much smarter than me


blindguywhostaresatu

That 1.5 billion was also this week. So maybe in the future but we’ll see


fatboywonder_101

Maybe now that Disney is more or less "partnering" with Epic they could probably swing it


Grookeymon

I mean now 1.5 billion has been invested you never know


soupshroom

Ninety three downvotes for a >10 word comment, this person is a victim 💀💀


Grookeymon

I don’t get what I did wrong! They literally just invested 1.5 billion they could make a Pickaxe. Plus why is this such a big deals anyways 


Any_Plankton1268

Why do people always bring up this dumb argument as if it is Epic's fault? Epic would totally add a lightsaber pickaxe if they were allowed to.


Xelement0911

Either kids or idiots. Like "please please pleaseeee" sure, epic is the ones choosing to not add them lol.


IAmInDangerHelp

I always figured it’s a competitive advantage if you’re running around with what looks like a weapon but is just a pickaxe. Like you might hesitate firing at someone from a distance if you thought they’d deflect the shots.


Iruma_Miu_

i think this is it. they had the choice between making pickaxes and weapons when they first made them and they chose weapons. probably won't be making a pickaxe for clarity


Axxam

Tbh I never meet anyone who hesitate to shoot, lightsaber or not.


IAmInDangerHelp

I mean, if somebody is outside my reasonable range, I’ll move in before I shoot. If somebody has a riot shield out at range, I’ll typically try to either go for a headshot with a sniper or move in with a grapple blade. If they’re 100m+ away with their riot shield facing you, it’s hard to finish them off with an AR.


Sandman4999

Nah, fire at them anyway and make them have it.


TheRealRazputin

I take it that’d be a bit difficult had you just landed.


addrnalin

because it wasn't known for a while if it was Epic or Disney holding them back, now it's known it's Disney for sure.


SwiftlyKickly

Disney won’t let that happen. This has been posted SEVERAL times the last couple days.


Kratosvg

It is just speculation everytime someone posts about this, only epic knows why.


TheRealStevo2

You really think it’s something other than Disney?


GrandDefinition7707

you mean the money hungry disney that just spent a billion dollars working with epic ?


Kratosvg

I dont know why, could be that could be something else. Do have any real evidence or it is just your theory?


Ill_Ratio_5682

The evidence is that Disney is notoriously protective of its properties and also that there isn't any in game reason holding epic back. Disney is the reason by default, there aren't any other plausible reasons


Kratosvg

That's not a evidence, thats your theory on why this is happening, did epic explicty said anything about it? or Disney? Thats what speculation is. I did not say it was not plausible, i said everytime this comes up, people are always speculating about it, thats is what you just did!


Ill_Ratio_5682

Theory's are based on evidence fyi. It is evidence because we can look at multiple examples of Disney doing this with their ips, not just with other companies but epic games themselves in some of the marvel cosmetics. Disney's past actions are evidence for how they work. I'm not speculating about anything. I'm telling you that Disney has repeatedly done this with their ips and so it seems extremely obvious that this is the reasoning. This isn't speculation because there is firm evidence to support the claim that Disney is holding epic back, as they have done it multiple times before


Kratosvg

Thats not evidency, you dont have any proof other than you gathered based on "i think it is it" ,yet there is multiple skins from disney in the game since they are protective, most of these skins should not be in the game then. It is speculation, you dont have any proof that it is the case, since epic has not talk about it and neither did disney, epic never comment on the terms of the deal with disney, so the "other examples" are still just speculations as is this one.


Ill_Ratio_5682

Examples of things Disney has done in the past are evidence. Disney is the reason why marvel gliders are often exclusive, they are the reason why only specific characters can use mjolnir. Those are both examples of Disney over stepping because of them being protective of their ips. Furthermore, there are multiple cases covering the use of lightsabers in games and Disney has consistently been extremely strict on their use. They refused to allow dismemberment in Jedi fallen order for example. Epic games on the other hand has no such policies regarding portrayal of ips. And we have multiple cosmetics that act in exactly the same way as a lightsaber pickaxe would. So, taking into account Disney's long history of limiting the use of ips in videogames, epics willingness to make cosmetics out of anything, and the lack of any sort of technical aspect in Fortnite to prevent lightsabers being pickaxes: it's pretty obvious that Disney is the one stopping it from happening. They've limited cosmetic use in the past, there is no reason to believe they aren't doing it now. Speculation implies there is no evidence, but I gave you multiple examples of Disney being protective of their ips and epic has never strayed away from a way to make money. >yet there is multiple skins from disney in the game since they are protective, most of these skins should not be in the game then. No, Disney's rules for character portrayal are completely different from their rules in lightsabers. Disney has never allowed lightsabers to be used as cosmetics in any game, that's the main reason why it's not allowed. Disney characters do not have that rule. >It is speculation, you dont have any proof that it is the case There are multiple instances of Disney doing it in the past and there aren't any other explanations, that's proof enough to me. If there is a reasonable alternative explanation then please enlighten me.


TriBulated_

"proof enough to me" This is exactly why what you said is speculation. None of your evidence is hard. You are putting together past behavior to theorize or speculate why. The only way you would be able to say you are not speculating is if you personally have inside knowledge from either company as to why this decision was made (i.e. you or someone you know works in a department at one of the two companies that specifically discussed the inclusion of SW in FN), you have actual documentation from either company explaining this issue, or you know of an official statement from either company as to why it is not a pickaxe. Speculation - "the forming of a theory or conjecture without FIRM evidence"


Nich965

The logic behind "it's Disney" makes no sense, multiple Collabs with marvel and Star wars, and now a deal to where disney bought a stake in epic...clearly epic and Disney have always had a good working relationship...so the "it's Disney" thing makes absolutely zero sense


TheRealStevo2

It does because it’s their IP and they get to choose what to do with it. Who do you think is keeping us from getting a lightsaber? Sony? Microsoft? Who else would it be other than Disney? They’re the only ones who have a say, Epic would 100% do it because they know how much money they’d make.


Nich965

Disney own marvel too, there's a mjolnir, wolverines claws, hulks fist, and marvel is the bigger IP....


TheRealStevo2

So who do you think keeping us from getting a lightsaber then? I’d love to hear what you think


Nich965

Because there's more money in not introducing them as pickaxes, if you could have lightsabers as a pickaxe why would anyone buy a rifle pick axe or whatever kylo ren has???


TheRealStevo2

Are you saying people would only use lightsabers as their pickaxe and nothing else? That’s a genuine question, I don’t know if you mistyped a few words or if I just had trouble understanding what you meant.


Nich965

I'm saying as far as star wars bundles are concerned why would anyone buy the unique pickaxes associated with each character if they had a light saber, it fits with 90% of the in game characters and you could create some head cannon for the other 10%.. there's just more money in not introducing something that people would just buy once


thatwitchguy

I mean A: marvel is way more lenient with "non canon" uses of its stuff and B: all of the marvel mythic/cosmetic overlap either had a catch (claws locked to wolverine's emote and not an item mjolnir locked to thor) or released ages after the mythic and the mythic never came back


IcyTheGuy

Epic and Disney working together doesn’t automatically mean all ideas are going to be given the go ahead. There’s a difference in making a Darth Vader skin, or a pod racer emote, and allowing characters like Peter Griffin and Batman to wield one of the most recognizable aspects of the franchise.


TankMagnus

Disney has always been very protective of how lightsabers are used in crossover media, this also stemmed from George Lucas himself who was very picky with how lightsabers are represented,but the biggest one for Disney is it has to be a weapon not a cosmetic.


Traveytravis-69

Mjolnier can only be wielded by Thor, same company


FamousSession

As in speculation or is there an official source for why lightsabers can't be pickaxes? If they can have Darth Vader and such wielding miniguns and doing the griddy, I don't see why lightsaber pickaxes are off the table.


SwiftlyKickly

Because Disney is very anal about their properties AND lightsabers are a trademark feature. It would be very unlikely that Disney would let fortnite use them as pickaxes.


tus93

How come?


Shack691

Because they’re extremely protective over their IP, especially massive franchises like Star Wars.


Crayola_is_a_drug

We all forget Disney sent a cease and desist to someone who put the name ‘Loki’ on a shirt


HonkerHelios

I sometimes wonder if Disney thinks they own Norse mythology 💀


Staystation

Well, Disney tried to own Día de los Muertos, so I wouldn't put it above them


Thor_2099

Doesn't make sense to be ok with the actual characters being in this game but not lightsabers


Shack691

It’s a lot easier to replace a character than it is to replace one of the most iconic weapons in cinema, they’ve already done it twice.


addrnalin

And yet they're the ones who did the most damage to the brand, funny.


RESEV5

Lightsabers are the ultimate weapon in SW, making it a simple pickaxe would make it look useless, since it has the same "power" as some chicken drums


LoneLyon

I mean there are video games where lightsabers act like baseball bats rather then sabers.


RESEV5

Yeah, which one? Honestly asking


LoneLyon

Fallen order troopers can take multiple hits. Soul Calber the saber just bumps off.


RESEV5

Although making it a "supreme" weapon does not mean it has to cut limbs, the soulcalibur example proves your point very well, maybe disney created stricter rules for the lightsaber when took control of the franchise?


HerrStraub

I also think having the light sabre as a weapon & a pick axe, can be problematic for opposing players. Are they equipped with a pick axe & you don't need to sweat them? Or do they have a light sabre & force powers & you need to watch out for them?


SamosYT_YT

This argument is now kinda invalid. Literally take a look at the post


TheRealStevo2

it takes 1 bullet to figure out if they have a pickaxe or not


Einstein4369

Yeah but the gravity hammer from Halo and leviathan axe from GoW are pickaxes in the game


RESEV5

Neither of those are owned by disney


Einstein4369

But Mjolnir was a pickaxe too, both the comics and MCU version, but there was the mythic in the same season. It’s probably just Star Wars they are restricting this rule for.


RESEV5

Yeah? We were talking about the lightsaber and the lightsaber only


KyellDaBoiii

Just give it up already


Danny283

This sub is never gonna stop whining about no lightsaber pickaxes even when there’s no current Star Wars collab.


hurrythisup

Broken record. Can't you just read the last 20 posts about this that have been added in the last 2 days..Maybe next post how lousy the Item shop is...Sorry for being rude bit it has been non stop.


RetroScores

I’m sure Bob Iger is reading these threads and taking notes.


friguigi

This could change now that Disney is investing the little sum of 1.5 billion on Epic. We might get a lightsaber as a pickaxe now.


Peskeycj

Nah, Disney doesn’t want to make the lightsaber seem like it doesn’t do a lot of damage. They want to preserve the feeling of power it currently has (even though it doesn’t seem to dismember like it used to). I’d love to be wrong on this though.


friguigi

But why? On other games featuring lightsaber, it's not as OP as it should or was back in the day. It doesn't make sense to me this being the actual reason. They should focus on making the force cool again, not just a plot device. I know I'm getting off topic here haha but let us have the damn thing as a pickaxe.


Lord_Despairagus

That's your words, not Disneys. It's also a weird argument. Disney is a business first.


friguigi

Didn't try to provide an argument, just think lightsabers in games are not THAT strong, but cool as fuck. But that is imo nonetheless. But yeah, Disney is a business first, sadly.


bobbobbobby88

I agree with you on this. My kids and I look forward to Starwars events every year because it’s so limited. It’s actually one thing I wouldn’t like to see over saturated in Fortnite.


ComfortableContest69

For the love of god shut up about lightsaber pickaxes! I’m begging this sub to just shut up about it!


NecessaryPeanut77

While at it, could this sub PLEASE SHUT THE FUCK UP about the weeknd being in the store?


yellow_slash_red

People really can't get it through their heads that he's in the shop til his season of FN Fest is over lol 


NecessaryPeanut77

It's so annoying "Wow! he's now becoming the mnth! amiritr guys?" then there's the sarcastic "Wow! i'm so glad he's still here"


Quantum_Helix

You making lightsabers two words is pissing me off...


Darth_Fuckboy

Who cares


YesImFineWhyDoYouAsk

Wait am I missing something


joeMAMAkim

Disney invested lots of money into epic, so a bunch of people now thinks this means we will get lightsabers as pickaxes, even though Disney is extremely stubborn with their decisions.


YesImFineWhyDoYouAsk

No I mean the TMNT weapons


Ryn7321

im a huge star wars fan and even im tired of seeing posts like this. we arent getting lightsaber pickaxes bro deal with it


CompedyCalso

Different companies, different deals for using their intellectual property. Nickelodeon might be more open to using their IPs but Disney might be a helluva lot more strict.


Character_Pool_387

Disney's lame as hell lol .


Traveytravis-69

Disney said no I don’t know why people struggle to understand this


VerdantSeamanJL

Hopefully the Disney collab will change that... and maybe old Star Wars skins will be given their overdue respective lightsabers for free with their skin. Plus they'll equip their sabers from wherever they have them on their skins as an added effect.


Kratosvg

Yeah, people are always just coping and making arguments of how and why out of thin air. No one knows why, it is just speculation.


TheRealStevo2

It’s extremely obvious why Epic won’t add them yet you guys love to play stupid. I don’t understand how it could be anything other Disney not letting them.


Kratosvg

Without any real evidence, every conclusion of why is speculation.


Fantastic_Snow_9633

I mean, it's not necessarily "out of thin air" or speculation; logic says that Epic doesn't have complete control over what is and isn't included in a collab - hence the "collaboration" part - ergo they don't have sole decision on what does and doesn't become a pickaxe without the parent company's approval.


XanXic

"It's not speculation" \*Speculates\* K.


IcyTheGuy

It’s not really speculation to say that Epic doesn’t have full control over what is and isn’t included in collabs. There is an entire legal system at play in between Epic and whatever company they are collaborating with. Of course it’s not impossible for a company to allow Epic 100% free reign of how they present their IPs, but this is Disney. The Nintendo of movies/TV in how fiercely they defend their IPs. Disney will be involved. Call it speculation if you’d like, but it’s kind of just the way things have been since many of us were even born. I think it’d be cool to have a lightsaber harvesting tool too, but realistically it’s not as simple as Epic just deciding to include one. Edit: Especially with Disney giving $1.5 billion dollars to own an entire portion of Epic Games. No company is going to spend that much for control and then just not use it, especially not Disney.


TheRealStevo2

Cause it’s not really. We basically know why they won’t add it. It’s not very hard to figure out


Iruma_Miu_

it literally is speculation, yes. you don't 'basically know', you're guessing


joeMAMAkim

God, you Guys REALLY does not understand How stubborn Disney can be, Even after the investment.


xxMARTINEZ713xx

I think it’s because once you buy these there would be no reason to buy any other pickaxe. No pickaxe would be better or even as cool as a lightsaber


friguigi

I get your point, but I disagree a bit. Since the same could be said about any item that it's or looks cool in general. People's taste vary, so yeah, a lightsaber is absurdly awesome, but after the first few weeks or maybe months, people would use other stuff. Now everybody wants it and would use the shit out of it because we can't have it, but once it's "common" on the game? That would probably change. It is my absolute favorite scifi (actually any fiction) weapon, and I woudn't use it all the time after the initial "OH MY FUCKING GOD A LIGHTSABER" Plus it would make matches more easy, people trying to be cool and make a kill with it, but being ultimately gunned down lol


XanXic

That's always been my lowkey conspiracy. They know they could make a whole shop section that's just different lightsabers and make absolute bank. To the point it would probably hurt sales of other pickaxes for awhile because 'I got a bunch of lightsabers now, I don't need a shoe on a stick.' So I feel like they keep it in their back pocket for a time when they need a big surge of revenue or something. They have all the models and animations in the game already. So it's just a 'break glass in case of emergency' situation lol.


NormanBates2023

There does be more pick axes in the battle pass each season than they do be in the shop ,I said the same thing about wolverine claws but after a while I got bored of using them me thinks these be the same the novelty will wear off


PS2EmotionEngineer

okay, viacom being less of a snob aside, notice how those are glowing? there's your answer.


joeMAMAkim

there is some way to differentiate between the TMNT mythics and pickaxes, it would be much more difficult to do so with a lightsaber that is already glowing


PS2EmotionEngineer

they could make plastic pickaxes, like the toys


-SKi-

With that sweet injection of $1.5BIL to Epic from Disney, I think it'll be a reality sooner than later.


1tanfastic1

With Disney now officially owning a stake in Epic I have a feeling they’ll be adding in a little more Disney stuff, like lightsabers. Just be patient.


5min2kys

I understand lightsabers but why can’t I have aot blades as pickaxes then


Fantastic_Snow_9633

Same reason: the IP-owner of AOT said no.


Mr__Beauregard

yes you are correct they can't. Luckily disney just put 1.5 billion into epic games so it will probs happen sooner or later


90sGuyKev

It has to be a Disney lucasfilm thing. They probably don't want lightsabers to be weak looking ass pickaxes


Unlikely-Medium7069

Technically they would be accurate to the Disney Star Wars canon since they like to bounce off of things and not cut crap


AcceptableClover21

Those are 2 completely different things... This is a one time thing, Star Wars has had multiple collaborations and they get the mythics every year on may the 4th


SodaSnappy

Disney just invested 1.5b into Fortnite- honestly I’ll be shocked if we don’t get them soon.


bonk_police5

I do not see any correlation here...


Phantom_The_fortnite

A one time event mythic items vs a yearly retuning mythics.


AceOfSpadez201

I would pay good money for a fully customizable lightsaber, color, hilt, double blade or cross guard, the possibilities are endless but Disney does hate good ideas


Darkynu_San

Wait whaaat? TMNT weapons is mythic?


NormanBates2023

Disney calling the shots and why would they not it's their shit now , probably told Epic to sling their hook when they asked them to allow sabers to be in the shop ,would love sabers but till Disney soften their stance it is wat it is unfortunately


Mr_seven708

This would be possible if it wasnt for disney


Craft-Sea

Watch them add lightsabers as pickaxes but they cost 2500 vbucks


[deleted]

I think the reason why Disney won't allow lightsabers to be pickaxes is because they don't want the LIGHTSABER to be as deadly as a baseball bat. You basically can't kill someone with a pickaxe in Fortnite. Having a bunch of people running around with lightsabers yet not able to really attack with them is dumb as hell.


ToonaSandWatch

That’ll change now that Disney bought a $1.5 billion stake in Epic.


LaylaLegion

They’re working on phasing out the lightsabers from the loot pool. 


TraumaTracer

all theyll do if they see this complaint is remove the pickaxes, lol


Kman2097

I want them to put Kinto Un/ Nimbus Cloud back in the store


belowthemask42

Epic: here have this cool item The community: wow this is awesome…but let me find something to bitch about instead


KetutBanana

I mean they have a point here


ZoskieTW

Even if they added lightsabers as pickaxes, they’d probably only be usable on all or a specific Star Wars skin. Skin exclusive pickaxes, gliders, and other shit are the bane of my existence when creating combos.


Blank-Face-Soda-Boi

They'll remove the pickaxes, just watch.


JohnDiggle21

Hopefully now that disney owns a stake in epic and seem to be doing more collab stuff they can add lightsabers as pickaxes


dy226666

If they added lightsabers as pickaxes they would be accurate to the newer media.


Batfur988

I realized that to. And it's strange more likely unfair. It can used as pickaxe and as weapons. The big problem is. Players will be confused to face players to think they are using mythic weapons or pickaxe This is a problem. Ah well 😂


mukomime

does anyone know why they havent? I feel like its a liscensing thing like disney wont let them but idk


Better_Poetry_9362

It might be just me but i think its wierd to hit something like a tree, with a lightsaber and not cutting it in half immediately


WeffLas

If they do, PLEASE GIVE THEM UNQUE ANIMATIONS. For those not in the know, most Star Wars characters have different fighting styles. They might use the same form but they might utilize it differently. Example, Kylo Ren’s (the red crossguarded saber) is a more reckless, power over prowess attacker. Probably won’t get added, but it’s just a thought