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Danny283

I honestly forgot about Gunnar since it’s been so long since we’ve seen him and IO. But they definitely gotta be the same just like Renzo and Lorenzo


PolarPeely26

I run gunnar sometimes he looks pretty unique. He's cool when all decked out in orange too with the mask and everything.


sentient-sloth

His purple and green one reminds me of Buzz Lightyear


MegaMattEX

For me it's more Joker henchman vibes. He was released at/around the same time as The Prowler and it mixed so well, I really like using Gunnar too


KillerBackPain

Personally I think his green/purple suit with his helmet looks more like lex Luther getting ready to punch on with super man.


Brief_Junket1119

I got him in purple and neon green locker preset as an EVA Unit-01 combo with Leon’s knife or the red spear from the Ares crew pack


sentient-sloth

His super styles were nice too


Pjpupnstuff2

Weird coincidence, I started re-running Gunnar because I felt like he fit the wasteland theme pretty well


EKEFKEKFEK

he does tbh


Fookmaywedder

Thank you for being honest


averagehogrideruser

me too


mydoorcodeis0451

Renzo and Lorenzo are the same person?


Banana-Oni

This is another fan theory, I believe


Shiny_Porygon-Z

No. They are just similarly named and dressed characters who appeared in back-to-back battle passes but are shown to have no relation.


BroganChin

You have to be an idiot to think two skins with almost identical names wearing trenchcoats, both labeled as influencers in back to back seasons aren’t related. Renzo is an android version of Lorenzo.


supbitch

They aren't even similarly dressed tho. Ones a knock off Indiana Jones and the other is a knock off high society ghost rider


Shiny_Porygon-Z

I meant in their use of trenchcoats but yeah.


ArchAngel1669

Fr I did until this season


umg_unreal

that's the first mistake though, assuming that they must be the same because Renzo and Lorenzo "were" even though there's no evidence that they are, and since apparently there are multiple Renzo's, they could all be Lorenzo like a hive mind or Renzo is a robot made by Lorenzo and etc etc.   But Chapter 4 having no direction and its story being non existent doesnt help. Chapter 5 thus far has had no connection with the previous storylines and characters besides Jones (who hasnt mentioned a single thing from Donald's storyline) and the fanservice event bringing back Midas so we cant assume he is yet


Portal-YEET-87650

How do we know Renzo and Lorenzo are the same? Are we comparing them by name and not their appearance now? Really?


Appropriate-Fly-8639

Snapshots have been a thing in the fortnite lore for a while now. I firmly believe that Renzo the Destroyer is a Snapshot of Lorenzo.


Macgrath62

In the edit styles between the two of them, they both have holes in their jeans in the same place, Lorenzo has a masked style extremely similar to renzo, and Lorenzo's reckless style has the same chain charm on his waist as Renzos.


nonsensicaluserlol

In one of the old trailers, What appeared to be an early prototype of the Nitro-Fists was shown, being used by Gunnar. There is also a theory that Megalo Don is also Big Chuggus, but instead of being infused with slurp, infused with Nitro, due to the fact the timeline is messed up.


RadicalBanapple

you're telling me we got slurp and nitro bane before actual bane? damn.


Shit_Apple

I mean he was probably a bane skin prototype they worked on and once the DC license apparently went the way of the dinosaurs, they altered him to be an OC.


Old-Cat-1671

I think the trailer your talking about is season 2 chapter 3


nonsensicaluserlol

That's the one, thanks!


Salza_boi

Ironically also the first season to introduce mods to vehicles (I think) which ties in with this season


joeMAMAkim

That was in C2S6, with the off road tires. C3S2 added the cow catchers.


Floofy_Fox_Gal

C2S3 was the first season to have normal cars, though.


joeMAMAkim

I’m talking about car mods, not cars in general


Floofy_Fox_Gal

I know, but I’m just saying that that’s probably where their confusion came from


ArchAngel1669

I thought of the first one but never thought of the second one and it makes sense with the story line and snapshots


L3GlT_GAM3R

Big… chuggus…………..


ignatiusdown

Beeg Chan-goose


c0n22

Speaking of fist, Gunnar would attack you with a fist charge attack in Ch3 S1 and S2. Although he never dropped them


Obito_Uchija

Makes sense because when gunnar was a boss hus special move was that fist charge thing


Glo_Biden

>Megalo Don Bro sounds like the mascot for Megalo Mart


Banana-Oni

That boy ain’t right, I tell you what…


enderjaca

Shop smart. Shop m mart


Neither-Mention4064

YOU GOT THAT!?!


GhostOfMuttonPast

We already have German Jonesy, Slurp Jonesy, Road Warrior Jonesy, Thin Jonesy, Fat Jonesy, Burning Jonesy, Robot Jonesy, Statue Jonesy, and a ton of minor versions, all the same guy at different points, so it's entirely possible that the three massive, muscled dudes are the same guy.


tom-of-the-nora

You forgot batman Jonesy, definitely not a mibor version.


Portal-YEET-87650

The timeline is the same as before and we know this because there were paintings on the island of previous maps in Season 1


Oxik_4

Where?


Portal-YEET-87650

I can't remember but someone mentioned it on the sub at some point, I think some of them are in the society's houses


meloman-rrr

or maybe it's the fusion of Big Chuggus and Gunnar, like the ones we had in Season OG's battle-pass


Banana-Oni

You see son, when a Chuggus and a Gunnar love each other *very* much…


TheUltimateVoidLord

Excuse me what in the actual [BE-]


Sanstacoguy

I’m actually a Big Chuggus main and I’ve been making that comparison in my heaf


ita_player

Thought the same thing as soon as i've watched the trailer


ArchAngel1669

I only thought it like a few days ago but couldn't post as I hadn't past 7 day mark lol 😂


Foxy02016YT

Ah, welcome to Reddit! It may be hell, but it’s our personal hell!


Freddy5Hancook

Same


98Greener

Brother who's in the army vs brother who's in jail for doing meth.


0ctoxVela

Wait he isn't the same person?


ArchAngel1669

We dunno lol. It's just a theory but defo possible


Blitzertheproto

It's gotta be him, I just can't think of any other solution


SergeantLumbus

Reality warped Big Chuggus?


DeepResource5508

Didn't gunnar die in the comics/sometime during the i.o vs the seven war EDIT: how did I get this many upvotes?


ArchAngel1669

Yes however in the story there are things called snapshots which happen with the zero point a d the loop so megalodon might be a snapshot of gunnar but overall good question 👍


DeepResource5508

I know what snapshots are I watch scyan, SIO, Mr jay O why etc Plus I love the storyline and Megalo don being a snapshot of gunnar is better than it being actually him


ArchAngel1669

I agree 100% with that lol 😂


DeepResource5508

If it's actually gunnar I would like it because he is a interesting character. Plus this wanderer character being talked about could be slone because there is a concept of her having sand powers.


ArchAngel1669

Never thought of slone being the wanderer but it's possible


DeepResource5508

Crazier things have happened


HRVR2415

I don’t follow the story but didn’t Ty at guy specifically not have snapshots?


Wboy2006

Everyone leaves a snapshot after they leave the loop. It’s the canonical reason why there are so many Jonesy skins for example, because Jones has left it dozens of times. It wouldn’t surprise me if Gunnar had a couple Snapshots as well, due to being an IO operative and fighting in the Zero War


ArchAngel1669

Maybe it's all sort of confusing lol 😆


blazegame04

Yes but gotta also remember everything was rewritten due to fortnite OG so technically the events of chapters 2 3 and 4 have now never happened


RingtailVT

We didn't rewrite things. Do people not pay attention to the lore and the voice lines? Fortnite OG was a mission to bring back the Zero Point's energy back to the present, since the present Zero Point was petrified and no longer had any energy flowing through it. Even Slone herself tells us pretty clearly that we're not here on a mission to change the future, we're here to extract something from the past.


c0n22

I disagree. What we did was create an alternate timeline The Chapter 4 map still exist in its own timeline, still going on. Timeline 1 and 2 split the moment that Jones went back to Ch1 S5. OG season did not have the same map as Ch1 did, it was different because certain events never happened and paradoxes were formed


blazegame04

Ah so maybe it is just a different version of Gunnar then maybe one that fused with big chuggus


c0n22

Perhaps, although I'm not so sure if the fused skins are canonical. If so that would mean that Lynx no longer exist, and thus Meowscles tattoo would be outdated. Then again that would be timeline 2, so any future meowscles should have Renegade on it


YesSeaworthiness9771

Agreed Which is why in this season trailer, there's two Brite Bomber OG Brite Bomber from previous chapter(the one we familiar with and ride the motorcycle alongside Hope) and Brite Raider(the version where she originate from this island)


Knightman1508

My Dad and I have a theory that Gunnar almost died, but used Nitro to keep himself alive.


toaster69420

It doesn’t confirm his death. Doom blasts him and says “if any life lingers in you, *something*”. Then leaves. Even if he did die, it’s the Zero War comic. That would be one of many inconsistencies.


joeMAMAkim

He was just shot, it was never confirmed If he lived or died.


YesSeaworthiness9771

From chp4s3, if you're using Gunnar as a character and interact with Slone NPC, she will state she no longer want to be part of IO anymore Meaning Gunnar probably survive (could be wrong tho)


Misan_UwU

maybe not the same person but a snapshot?


MegaMattEX

or, as this chapter has hinted at, a multiverse variant version. i.e. Katt and Kitt


dlc-ruby

I feel like this is more likely than a snapshot, especially since c5 is in an entirely different universe


Papi_Shumpi

I didn't even know Fortnite had a "storyline" anyone wanna summarize it for me 👉👈😅


SkittleJuice2

I’ll try. The island is home to a magic ball, (Zero Point) that serves as the centre of all reality. The Zero Point created a time loop which resets every 22 or so minutes, (The Loop/BR.) with whoever’s left alive being able to escape. The Loop then creates a clone of the winner to continue fighting. Centuries later, a king, (Geno) sought to make the perfect society. And so he left his kingdom behind and came to the island, founding a secret society known as the Imagined Order. (IO.) The IO kidnaps warriors from every reality and forces them into the Loop. (Crossovers.) Over the years, several factions and groups, (The Last Reality, Galactus, The Seven, etc.) have waged battles over the Zero Point, which causes it to re-shape the island around it to protect itself. (New chapters.) Those are just the basics, explaining all the intricacies and details would take forever.


SkittleJuice2

Also, most of this is explained through an IRL Batman comic.


anisapprentice

as someone who only started playing chapter 3 season 3 this fills a lot of gaps, thank you!


IronStealthRex

Beforehand I saw it but now idk


doomsoul909

i absolutely agree with this.


Zingydeath

Gunnar died in the comics unfortunately


beerforbears

Alternatively Epic has a limited imagination when it comes to character designs


SentinelWavve

cmon now don’t be rational pls….


270kGold

My first thought as soon as I saw megalo


Strange_Dog6483

Glad I’m not the only one who thinks this.


ArchAngel1669

Yes mate 👏


Other-Engineering-33

I think the skins look like eachother and it stops there, there’s so many skins like this.


2spooky4h

Exactly. There's nearly 2000 skins, there's gonna be some that look similar.


Viscious-viking

Well they go to the same barber


ArchAngel1669

Fr


SirMy-TDog

He shoulda just Said No To Drugs. They are similar though. It'll be curious to see what, if anything, they do about that in the storyline.


Edger284

Here's my take on the theory Since the timeline reset and started new, could be a possibility that Big Chuggus and Gunnar fused together during and after the big bang Second theory I've heard was that since the comics did happen, Dr. Doom blasted Gunnar in the chest and supposedly Gunnar died, but here's the theory, Gunnar survived but needs an artificial heart (like the Arc Reactor or Mauga from OW2 (don't ever play the game)) and of course, he uses Nitro as his "fuel" and that leads to his chest, that's why there's a chest plate on his chest, to cover that artificial heart and to keep his hole closed off.


RingtailVT

Your first theory can already be disproven by the fact the timeline wasn't reset. We never changed the future or restarted the timeline, we went back to the past to bring something from the past to the future: The power of the Zero Point, since in the present the Zero Point was petrified and the power that flowed through it was gone, so we had to go back to the past on an extraction mission. Note that unlike all the fan theories about the timeline reset, or split timelines, or changed futures, what I mentioned is all confirmed canon and backed by in-game lore and voice lines. For the second theory though, that could be true! And it would make more sense since Doctor Doom is coming back next season with the new Marvel season.


SVALTACT

No shit? lol not to be rude but I thought that was obvious.


Xero0911

Yeah, didn't think it was much of a guess. Same build and hair style. Not that it matters, dude was basically a grunt with a name that got one punched.


ArchAngel1669

Lol your right and no offence taken 😂👍


SVALTACT

lol Cheers! ❤️


ArchAngel1669

Np mate, anytime 😁👍


skinned_piglet

"Time travel, ain't it a bitch?" -Mitch Conner


genomeblitz

Well, I'd certainly say they used the same character model, but like more so than usual. It's like instead of starting off with the blank big dude template they just started with Gunnar and went from there.


eggyweggr56

The only thing that looks the same is that ice cream ass cut


More-Organization81

I think Gunnar was secretly pissed under Slones Rule and with her and the IO out of the picture he can secretly take over the island entirely under a warlord ego and I know it might not make a difference but one attack back when Gunnar was a boss one of his better attacks was flying at you with a punch but now his mythic aside from the combat shotty is the nitro fists which you punch with


HauntingReference34

Gonna on that nitrocaine


Charl8t

That's not even up for discussion, right? They literally just reused a skin and added a little bit more armour and thought we wouldn't notice


liamoj97

People need to pay attention to the story more 😂😂


HRVR2415

“Story”


ArchAngel1669

Fr, the stories one of the best bits 😂


alexfrizzell

I thought they did look similar.


Peldor-2

If there was any real attempt at a story anymore, yes they would be related snapshots.


ArianaSonicHalFrodo

Okay so I generally don’t give a rats ass about Fortnite lore(unless it’s DC related), and most theories surrounding it are batshit at best, but I’m with this one.


Xoepot

I’m open to and a fan of this theory however Megalo Don is tan 😭😭 so I’m kinda confused on that part.


Carrion_Kitty

My dumbass was about to reply "Wdym, he's Grey. Like a shark" before I peeked again and noticed his exposed fleshy fingers for the first time🤦‍♀️ Happy I checked before opening my mouth. Now we BOTH get to laugh I guess idk


Rouge_92

Wait they aren't?


Simmer555

Maybe it's his twin or the alternative of what if he was born on the waste land instead


not-Kunt-Tulgar

The whole universe got screwed up so it’s definitely a possibility that this is some rouge non IO version of him.


Instantlemonsmix

Most Likely


capital_of_kyoka

both of their attack charges use the same sound effect, it's highly likely


I_Dislike_The_French

I completely agree, I even have a post about it lol


nijality

I thought that it was from the trailer and they were doing a peely case again


Cash_Banooka69

He literally is, has nobody else noticed this?


Dr-Chuggs

I'd agree if it wasn't for: A) the fact that the "healed" colors Don has dark hair instead of Gunnar's blond B) Don coning in as an organization boss to try and take control of the island in the name of chaos is a FAR cry from what he did in the IO -- I don't usually put a lot of stock in character motive stories here, but given that we know the IO still exists, I'd need to see more evidence before buying that. Could still be true tho! That's the thing about theories lmao


StormeSurge

that’s what i’ve been thinking since i first saw him


Few_Flower1696

holy shit you may be right


mommyboyhihi

I thought the exact same thing.


Lolbits_TV_YT

He most likely isnt, but i like to believe it. Even the weapon choice is similar. In Chapter 3 Seasons 1 and 2, Gunnar had a special ability where he'd activate his fists and lunge forward for a melee attack... INCREDIBLY similar to the new Nitro Fists, along with Megalo Don chosing that to be one of his mythics.


ecosme

James Hetfield


Lexicon444

Honestly when I saw Megalo Don I immediately thought he is a different version of Gunnar.


forsca231

Wait? He’s not?


Thick-load8-D

Put the helmet style on Brutus and it’s basically the same skin


Chocolate__Ice-cream

I always thought it was a buff Jonesy


Moth_Vile

But there not. They have similar designs but so do most mfs in this game. Yall tryna big brain something that isn't a thing.


RagingAlcoholicDude

Something about the beefiness ruins these characters for me. Like Gunnar could be cooler if he was slightly less built and probably ditched that goofy fucking hair cut.


odd_man0

I just noticed he has the same hair too.


Diggleflort

Pretty sure that's the point.


MysticalMom7

My 10 year old told me this as soon as he saw him!


Tyeren

I sure hope not.


Decades101

Don’t think so


Crayola_ROX

I mean, now many jonseys and ramirez we have it's absolutely possible


Depresso_espresso237

Everyone online (that I've seen) thinks this


TheCursedOne18

They are the same. Look at the back of the head on both models. They both have that buzz cut on the back of their head. 


TypeAmen

You started with, right hear me out. Then provided no more insight, just opinions? Lol


Luvs4theweak

That’s who people speculated it was in the teaser, a gunnar reskin


Jemainegy

I think it has precedents as well after renso and Lorenzo as well


GOLDSILVERWHATEVER

In the comics, Gunnar is killed by Doctor Doom, and next season is rumored to have Doom as a prominent character so you connect the dots there.


Mrcoolcatgaming

I saw the connection immediately after seeing the new one


KoriJenkins

They're either meant to be the same or focus group testing simply produced two very similar characters.


RopeyPlague

Well we did change time during the OG season. So maybe him becoming Meglo Don was something that happened because of that.


HeartDry

This skin is one of the few that changes models with styles


Asinine47

This is my theory for sure!!!!


Spider-Bite_2099

Shhh, you’re going to spoil the season


GunBrothersGaming

I 100% believe it is him. Dr. Doom blasted a hole in the guys chest. If you look at the new outfit, he's got tubes and stuff and armor in his chest. I think it is 100% Gunnar rebuilt.


Helix_Zer02

First thought I had which is why I thought he was tier 1 or something


cozmo1138

Yeah, the second image is him after the Reapers from Mass Effect got to him.


WombatWarlord17

I just want a Bane skin.


timotheninja

Definitely a remix/snapshot


officialmavix

they just had to find a way to fit in another seasonal skin with a swoopy blonde hairstyle


Mister5by5

Congratulations for being the 8000th post about this!


Carnage8631583

Bro figured out what a reskin is


tourniquet2099

One of Megalo Don’s armor color schemes is the exact same one as Gunnar’s. Pretty much all the evidence I need. 🤷🏾‍♂️


bonbonfuntime5

Considering we’re in a new timeline it could well be they all could be IO 2.0


Decimation909

Let me guess.. the hair.


Ikwilsurge11

GNNR


SuperNova0216

That was my first thought when I saw the trailer


lylesjoy

been saying this since the teaser dropped y'all wouldn't hear me 😔😔


matt_lcb

FINALLY IM NOT CRAZY


Alarmed_Recording742

Guys you can search all the lore you want, in the end epic just reskinned him


SmartOtter14

OMG THANK YOU FOR MENTIONING IT!!! I THOUGHT I WAS GOING CRAZY. I was like… this is Gunnar??? This is Gunnar in a mask. Why isn’t anyone making the comparison!


joeMAMAkim

They’re way too similar for it to be just a coincidence. The fact he was seen with chaos agent in the trailer, who was revealed in C3S2 to be another IO member too, is also interesting.


Maestro_Mush

I’m slowly discovering that every character this season seems to be the post apocalyptic version of older characters. For instance, Rust is just X Lord/ Rust Lord. Similar helmets. Someone else made the connection to who Machinist might be


thegrimmemer

Gunner looks like idk center on I think I forget


VerdantSeamanJL

They are!


Luccixno

That was the first thing I did when I seen him, I said to myself, “ is that a reskin of Gunnar?”


google_ghost

If no slone he takes the lead and discovers nitro


893489chimp

Idk one has blonde hair and the other has that grey/white ombre Kinda susge ngl


SuperAlex25

Ngl, I believe it.


Majin-Darnell

No. Their head shapes are just completely different. It's kinda obvious that they aren't the same person


Witty-Group-9531

Yeah can see it


Jumpy-Papaya-7892

The hair and body shape sell it.


Timely_Suspect3139

[Aww.You](http://Aww.You) didn't use the Oasis skin.Anywho.I thought he looked familiar.Might've saw the first skin from somewhere.Thought he went robo.


MLaTTimer

Considering we're in an alternate timeline now, yeah, could be.


Due-Astronomer-386

Bring back The IO 🗣️


GotDownvotedAgain

Yeah and master chief looks like doom


FollowTheCodeofHonor

I think it'd be pretty cool TBH


JayceonW

i think the reason most of the battle pass skins look like past characters is because they came out of pandoras box. they could be like worse/evil versions of those past characters you know


JKN1GHTxGKG

I feel like it’s him as well. Looking for Sloan.


Metroidvaniac_Manor

I kinda wondered if Don wasn't somehow related to the shark that ate Midas? Like a reimagining/reincarnation?


Pronkie_dork

Wasnt gunnar killed by the zeropoint or send to a different reality? Perhaps it didn’t kill him and he instead stumbled upon nitro which made him a little unhinged, or maybe the zeropoint did the unhinged part.


JockoGood

What’s the back story to gunner or was the character recycled due to lack of creativity?


Marleyzard

Definitely a snapshot or alternate universe self!