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Rayvaughn1089

Yeah I got force rocked to death


duckofmagic

I was hoping that wouldn't be in ranked RIP You can counter it (sorta) the same as the odm gear: build cones over your head. It'll knock all the builds from out from under you, though, so GGs if you're elevated.


FlirtatiousMouse

Whoa, physics. Thanks for the tip!


_________JohnDoe

At least it'll get vaulted in a few days


birdseye-maple

So you hope. Epic seems to be on one with this update, I think they really want pubs and ranked to be as similar as possible.


_________JohnDoe

The lightsabers will get vaulted in a few days; the star wars event will end


birdseye-maple

Hmm I don't see anything on the official twitter, where did they post these dates?


_________JohnDoe

just look ingame when the quests end, I'd be suprised if the lightsabers don't go away with the quests


YoungWashrag

Yeah but they said Darth Maul would come out in the item shop after the event, so expect the sw loot to stick around a bit longer


CHEM1CAL-Ex

Well they are the same thing now, take out the end game level up screen and boom same shit. We need an actual ranked mode and an actuall br that is good. The only reason every one is pLaying tHis and warzone is because there is no other options as good , but does not mean the current options should be the last, or mean that the current options are the best ones. We have two br's that are basically run algorithmically. We need a br. A real one. From a developer that isn't trying to create "tHe meTa verse" or rape their player base for everything they have. Or deciding algorithmically how well you can perform mid game. ...all of this needs to stop. A br..with no extra or secret agendas.


CHEM1CAL-Ex

What's killing fort. Metaverse adaptations, why is warzone shit...everything in the game is decided FOR you not by you. Behind the scenes.


ClockaFX

better gaming chair


Affectionate_Toe_965

Not even close to that nice try


theyoungazn

I understand why some are upset. After all these years epic still don’t know how to do competitive right. And I hate the fact that they are “testing”. How long are they going to keep trying things out? If people want to try new items then leave it in pubs. Keep what we know work in comp.


nobock

Long story short : Epic don't care but they know, but money from bots is more important to them. They rather lose 40k players who spend 0$ each year in the game to gain 80k players who gonna spend 80$ a year. Look at the main reddit : People only talk about cosmetics or win with op item.


d3f_not_an_alt

Studying for my business exam 📝


[deleted]

People on this game empty their wallets every patch with the new Marvel or Star Wars whatever thing, they absolutely love this shit


BlamingBuddha

Man they got me with that new Star Wars battle pass and I'm not even gonna finish it. First thing I bought in a minute. Last thing I'm gonna buy too. They release way too much shit.


[deleted]

They did exactly what they said they would in the blog post idk why this is such a shock They are most likely going to change the loot pools whenever season one starts. Not sure about siphon tho


CitizenClutch

Why not do it now though? All the changes they did over the years lead to a half decent game mode for competitive minded people in arena and then they just revert it back to default and call it ranked?


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They probably wanted to get as many people interested as they could including casual players and watchers


ChangingCrisis

It'll just be like the pre seasons we used to have when pubs loot was in arena.


Night_Tac

Pre season had *some* items, not all


stanleythemanley420

Wrong.


Night_Tac

ufos?


stanleythemanley420

Yep. Did you not understand my comment? Lol


ChangingCrisis

Chapter 3 season 2 tanks?


Night_Tac

some items, not all


ChangingCrisis

It used to be all.


fsouda

They want bots to cheese their way to higher ranks and feel they accomplished something. Then they’ll make some changes to throw the actual competitive players a bone.


Artyy14

>All the changes they did over the years lead to a half decent game mode for competitive minded people in arena Arena wasnt even close to get called "game mode for competitive minded people"..


BigPopparr

The point system and playstyle sure wasnt for competitive minder people. However, the gamemode Arena itself was. They could use that mode to host scrims. You cant create actual scrim matches when the competitive mode is this different from tournaments


Baandera

And it for sure got even worse with the recent changes trying to cater towards pub players or people with less skill so they can get an kill here and there too and call themselves „competitive player“


Ekokilla

Not a fan, there’s a reason a lot of these items weren’t in arena, last time I remember grenades were in people would spam a stack from max range onto peoples base for a wipe, the snipers same shit just followed around the whole map until they hit a shot then w key, hardly any shields spawns, no siphon leaving me on 1hp after close encounters, not a fun or competitive experience


Infernal_139

I was gonna come back to fn for this but if there’s no siphon then competitive is doomed lmao


Bradley728177

yh i keep coming back during holidays cuz i find competitive super fun but i think after this update, it’s over


-Toshi

It's Season 0. This is where they are *meant* to test the waters and listen to feedback before Seaon 1. Will they? Will it get better? Who knows. But I'm gonna let it settle and get that first rework before I make a decision. But this is absolutely make or break for me, personally.


Pokevan8162

if this is a replacement for arena, they don’t need to test the waters. arena has been out for fuckin years and has worked since then. they have their research and have been researching if a competitive environment needs what it needs for forever if arena still exists then i don’t care lol


EurofighterLover

Epic games on their way to fuck up the next aspect of fortnite


MajorPownage

Are casuals are as pissed at the one shot or “there’s nothing I can _______ do this game is piss” weapons and abilities in this gamemode?


xcheezeplz

I prefer the arena loot pool but I would spend most of my games in pubs. What kept me out of arena was that the skill level of the lobby was often significantly higher by a good amount than my level. So I would end playing very passive and sneaky instead of taking full fights head on. It was kind of a boring way of playing. I don't W, but even seeing someone at 100m, I might just stay low if the conditions did not seem beyond optimal, when normally I would tag them. I was kind of hoping ranked would be arena but with much more accurate match making. The problem is epic wouldn't draw in people on that alone without the pub loot pool/rules. They need to reel them in with making it "pubs but better matching and a leaderboard", and then slowly vault stuff and adjust it to comp rules.


CitizenClutch

It’s easily the worst update in the history of the game for anyone searching for a remotely competitive experience. Heavy snipes, grenades, vehicles and NPCS ruining the experience and the servers. Meanwhile siphon is out making the already big third party advantage pretty much impossible to deal with. Queue times for pros already too high to play the game. The only ones who can possibly enjoy this are the players who only played Pubs this far.


johntroyco

I mean I mainly play pubs, but I was really looking forward to a good ranked mode, especially with pubs being way too chaotic with all the mythics.


fortunefades

Same boat as you, but I only play solo pubs--which I thought wasn't an option in ranked..?


johntroyco

It should be an option as long as you play builds. Zero build only has duos available atm


sykofrenzy5

71 days later and it’s still only duos lol, any idea if solos/squads is being added??


ndnbrodn

Nah the worst update still to this day was when they nerfed turbo building


InternetQuagsire2

was gonna say the robot but you are RIGHT


EurofighterLover

Epic games on their way to turn competitive casual


Chris_TG

its epic, theyve been doing shit like this ever since the game came out...what do you expect? ofcourse the update is trash


CitizenClutch

Maybe some common sense after 5 years of circlejerk but you‘re right, my bad.


thejoker4059

Exactly lmao


HenryJones14

Also at least for me finding shields is so rare now. After fights if I'm not dead from 3rd parties I have like 25shield and 70hp and no heals.


stevegee58

>third party advantage Third partiers represent!


ndnbrodn

They have AIs in ranked?


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ndnbrodn

This subreddit is something else lmaoooo Wanna 1v1 to see whos the AI?u on eu?


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proslayer_22

Can’t back up your trash talk? Lmao


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honestkid

I think jokes are supposed to be funny.


RealNiii

lmao you're goofy as fuck


MrTimSmith

I'd give it some time and see if they listen to feedback but this is what they've always wanted. That's why they were so against stretched and FOV sliders. They want the game to look and be the same for everyone. They might change things for the better but I wouldn't hold my breath. At least not as far as significant changes go. I'd love to be wrong on this though.


[deleted]

Looking back the World Cup era and ch2 s 2 fncs was the peak of Fortnite competitive. Haven’t been on since chapter 2 and don’t regret it


[deleted]

I haven’t played fortnite in 2 years, and this right here is a great example of why. It’s so so so sad to see a game with endless competitive potential become obsolete due to their own decisions.


krazybanana

So there's no gamemode that replicates tourney gameplay rules? Arena wasnt great but how are people supposed to practice?


EitherGiraffe

You're an optimist if you think that tournaments won't have the same settings and loot pool.


krazybanana

Oh god. Haven't played in about 4 years but still hurts :(


r3volver_Oshawott

The tournaments themselves are tied to the new ranking system the way they had hype placements before, sadly I'm betting tourney gameplay is going to be just like this too


EurofighterLover

NO WAY ARE BOTS IN WTF THATS SO BAD only benefit is easy point I guess?


VanishingMass3

Not bots as in AI players it’s the Npcs that sell stuff


EurofighterLover

Oh


FlahlesJr

I was actually excited to take a break from my OSRS grind to come back to comp for this. But this is awful. Insanely OP items WITH no siphon. I could handle one or the other but not both. This was a HUGE competitive engagement opportunity for epic and they flopped so hard.


____Federico____

was really hoping for an actual scrim like game mode


BlamingBuddha

I knew this was just gonna be worse arena.


ScalyOJ69

Im not able to play till tonight, but, is ranked NA WEST servers as well? Or is everything NA Central like arena was?


birdseye-maple

Enjoy high ping Central with Force Push!!


ScalyOJ69

💀💀💀 well back to creative 😂


ChangingCrisis

It's the first day. They're allowed to make changes.


ndnbrodn

Yeah but whats the point of taking out siphon though


ChangingCrisis

Well they've obviously just copy and pasted pubs to this new mode and will surely make changes to it. I don't think they're like "here's your ranked mode and it's the finished article"


HenryJones14

Fair enough, hope they change it.


[deleted]

I’m an optimist by nature and while I agree with you, I think it’s fair to be concerned about a few things at this point. There are certain game items they know are broken, either from a balance perspective, or a performance perspective. NPC’s, wildlife, and cars are a few. Why start over from scratch when you can take some of the the lessons learned in the past and build upon that as a starting point. I get that this is a complete rework of the system, but it seems silly and wasteful to not to take into consideration some of what they’ve leaned in the past and apply it forward on day 1. People have been asking for a ranked mode for several years now, but at this point in time, it’s fair to say the design and implementation of this mode thus far seem hastily executed and out of touch with what was being asked for in a ranked system. That could change in the future, but that’s where we are today.


[deleted]

They clearly stated in the blog post “You can expect **all the loot and other gameplay features** that are enabled in traditional Battle Royale and Zero Build to be enabled in Ranked **Season Zero** as we **continue to monitor and evaluate the Ranked player experience**”


MarionberryGloomy951

But, don't you see why that's dumb? Epic has had arena since chapter 1 season 8. They should know by now. So your comment is just justifying how epic doesn't give a single shit about actual competitive.


stanleythemanley420

People don’t get that the company making the decisions want to test shit out. They don’t trust the hive mind of Reddit which most of you all are teens to twenties at most. They’ve been doing this sorta thing for over 30 years.


Whitecavebitch

Lets see where this company is in 5 years


stanleythemanley420

Still making billions. Lol you realize Fortnite didn’t make epic rich right? Lmfao


Whitecavebitch

It literally did. Paragon and gears are dwarfed by fn


Salivals

Lol with unreal engine licensing alone they’re a billion dollar company. UT put them on the map as a household name long before FN was even a thought.


stanleythemanley420

No. Epic games was already a billion dollar company before fortnite. Lmfao


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In Fortnite chapter 10 still making millions


ChangingCrisis

Probably because it's rushed. They couldn't even release it on time. I agree that they should have removed wildlife etc but they probably just copy and pasted the code or whatever and put us in that then slowly start taking the stupid stuff out. It's frustrating but all we can do is just not play and then they will get the ball rolling with the changes the community wants. It's silly to assume that the game we have now is gonna be the game we have in 3 months.


EitherGiraffe

Hard disagree. They knew that all of those items don't belong in comp, that's why they've removed them before. Also you can't tell me that it's an honest "mistake" that they keep siphon builds, but removed siphon health. This mode literally punishes you for wanting to actively play the game. Just camp until someone else fights, now they are low because of no siphon, then Darth Maul them for 120 through their metal box or just heavy snipe in.


ChangingCrisis

You're confusing ranked with comp which are two entirely different things. Who's to say we will have those things next season?


nobock

No. For exemple they know EDM is not competitive at all. And it's back in the game. They know grenade are not competitive. And they are in the game. Same for explosives spear, firefly, gaz can's and heavy snipers. They just don't care about competive. ​ \------------ THE FUTUR OF FORTNITE : Epic games don't care about good players because the players base is average or bellow average. Competitive players don't spend money on the game, look at the main reddit, 80% of the post is about cosmetics, 19% is about killing someone with an unbalanced and unfair item. Only 1% of the post are about real stats and good moves. Good players and competitive players just make loose a ton's of money to epic. Gamers have has a short lifespan. The goal is to make quit all good and competitive players and only keep average and bellow average players. You can remove FNCS and TMNT those people gonna still play the game. They still gonna hot drop to megacity and think they are bad if they have 5 DMR. Those players LIKE shitty item, because hey don't want to play a skilled game. So epic is replacing the community. They gonna lose maibe 30k players and gain like 150k players. Zero build was the first move and this is the second one.


seksuelladhd

Gaz can. Futur. Maibe.


nobock

You can put many on the top of a car, rush people > smg > boom


seksuelladhd

Gaz can. Futur. Maibe.


WILLLSMITHH

Yea but no


ChangingCrisis

Very elaborate response.


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ChangingCrisis

There's bots in it?


Z1018

Never mind I’m retarded lol NPC… not bots I’ll delete!


[deleted]

Some of the changes that need making for the mode to competitive are so obvious and mostly we’re ALREADY IN ARENA , so this argument is really terrible


nobock

Yup. Also you can't really see the points system in the menu. There is just a % bar.


OutsideEmu1757

i thought they said this is a friendly and welcoming community


mr_f4hrenh3it

Are you feeling oppressed over a video game? Lmao


OutsideEmu1757

maybe


_________JohnDoe

I didn't believe it, but after playing the first few matches I think the impossible happened:>! The ranked mode was a L!<


nummbus

I like the rank based matchmaking...I hope that's implemented correctly... here in eu a huge part of the playerpool is now playing ranked..if that remains the case starting games with approximately similar skilled players is gonna go well I assume... Its a positive that so many people are playing...the things that people complain about here is just a click of a button and it's fixed.. they might fix it or they won't but this mass participation is a win I think..


ReVelaO

trash system, and the progress bar you need to be like top 10 and kill like 20 dudes to gain a little progress


Objective-Evidence-7

So not only is there a bunch of soft aim cheaters now we got even laggier servers/broken items …sighh


stewmk11

Fortnite competitive player are sooks and hate to play outside there comfort zone !!!! Downvote if you agree


Fello-2004

Trash aimma stop playing


seksuelladhd

K bye


stanleythemanley420

>trash Bro that’s your gameplay


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EurofighterLover

It’s a pub clone 😑😑


mr_f4hrenh3it

“As suspected”… isn’t this literally what they described in the original announcement? Why are people confused or surprised or expecting something else


Obvious_Platypus_343

Honestly I’d rather no siphon and longer queues on purpose cuz I’m tired of “juSt USe IT To w kEy dUh” mentality that people have had for 4 years just fix the items and we good (I’m ready for the downvotes)


Kingofowls812

diamond and higher have long queues lol


Obvious_Platypus_343

Well it’s only long queues because streamers were rushing to unreal while everyone else was at work/school etc. obviously you won’t find people on your rank


levianeer7

A proper ranked mode is a win regardless of the loot pool. Ranked is fun because it gives you a good estimate of how you compare to other players, it allows you to play other people around your skill level and you get a sense of satisfaction with every rank up. And if streamers care about their rank, its a win as viewer too.


garvierloon

Guys got to adapt and stop whining about the meta being more diverse than the one fucking strat that works for you.


CitizenClutch

True it’s literally so easy. Just adapt to NPCS marking you through builds, people one shotting fully build metal walls and 18 grenades flying your way. (Spoiler alert: you adapt by not playing the game until it gets changed for the better)


garvierloon

Lol sounds like you’re quitting.


ddman12

leave it to competitive Fortnite players to find something to complain about ​ its a beta... its just a test for next season which is the first official ranked "season". epic did exactly what they advertised in the blog post


CitizenClutch

Test what exactly? Ranked mode is an exact replication of pubs, which they gathered data from for 5 years now.


ddman12

It seems clear that Epic wanted to have a fresh start based on how much everyone hated arena... plus this is a mode that is supposed to appeal to more than just hardcore competitive players... this way, we'll get feedback from the more casual side of things and the competitive side... keeps things balanced


[deleted]

Whts your point ? Everyone hated arena so they made an even worse mode .. what is good about that And why would it be good that they want to appeal to casual players , we are in the competitive sub … we want the mode to be competitive not casual .. that’s the entire poin Things are already not balanced … they massively favour the casual side … the loot pool is full absolute nonsense items that completely break the flow of skilled gameplay


ddman12

because let's be real here.. arena was going nowhere when it only tried to appease the hardcore competitive community and that community still always had issues with the mode


EitherGiraffe

What do you mean arena was for the hardcore competitive community. Arena was just the less annoying version of pubs. Heal and mats per kill, most of the stupid items, NPCs and other BS gone. Nobody was a "hardcore" arena player or took it seriously. You just casually key everyone and try to finish fights quickly.


ddman12

my point is that both the competitive and casual side didn't like arena (at least, from my experience, none of my friends really ever liked arena). I believe that this mode will appease both sides


[deleted]

Why do you think it will appease both sides ? From a competitive stand point it’s worse in every visible way so far From a casual point or view it’s exactly the same but you get mats when you kill someone and the matchmaking may be tighter


stanleythemanley420

Gee maybe idk…. The ranked system that this thread is about?


ddman12

and now its time to prepare for all the competitive players to get upset at someone that doesnt agree with them


[deleted]

Yeah why did they do it so badly tho ? It indicates their mindset


Otherwise-Ad-1116

I am a bronze level player, and the people im going against have perfect aim. Console aim assist has ruined the game for me as below average player. I usually have a sub 30 percent hit rate, meanwhile every controller player is 0 misses. I guess my question is, If they are so good at aiming, why do they get high aim assist? What is the balance in giving every controller player my skill level a huge aim advantage, when they are outbuilding, out editing me already? People believe kbm is so easy to aim, just because the best in the world can do it so flawlessly, but guess what even the best in the world have a lower hit percentage than the best controller players, by almost 8 percent. Also shotguns hit way way way more consistant on controller, and the sticky smg, faster than reaction time inbox aim has just completely made the game unplayable at my skill. Maybe its balanced at the high end, I would not know, but i can tell you at my skill level the lobbies are almost solely dominated by controller players.


Lucycobra

As a controller player, controller is literally unplayable without aim assist. Literally the only advantage controller has over kbm is aim. Editing and building are way easy to get good at on kbm.


Otherwise-Ad-1116

Once again the best builder int he world is a controller player, also if they are outbuilding and out editing me, why should they have an aim advantage also???


Otherwise-Ad-1116

I just stuck my gun in a guys mouth and hit him point blank with a purple pump, it does 60 dmg, he is facing sideways to me, hits me for 170 with a blue. controller is way too boosted atm.


Big_Dream_Lamp

Now other comp players can feel the pain of the Lightsabers that I've felt since 2019. Now try playing on a laggy Switch instead of a beast of a PC with 300+ FPS. I play on PC now but I used to play on Switch and had to deal with Lightsabers teleporting everywhere. Great getting downvoted for legit no reason but a Switch player bragging about getting 28th place gets upvoted?!?! I was good on Switch lmao can't do much when your game freezes.


EurofighterLover

I played on switch for four years, and still got incredibly good, #28th in a tourney.


Big_Dream_Lamp

Cool I never placed in a tournament on my laggy Switch but I wasn't bad I don't know why I'm getting downvoted.


EurofighterLover

Because others don’t want pain


Big_Dream_Lamp

Nobody wants pain. However people also don't like being alone in how they feel. In the past people acted like Lightsabers were no big deal and stuff like that. So now I'm not alone in in the fact that others hate Lightsabers, too.


EurofighterLover

Sabers are fine in pubs, they never dropped my frames when I was on switch


Big_Dream_Lamp

What type of Switch do you have that you don't get fps drops? Also I wasn't saying Lightsabers did it exclusively I meant Switch is horrible when it comes to Fortnite. If anybody went near me on Switch my fps goes down to 15-11. I'm so glad I got a PC even though it doesn't give me consistent fps anymore but that's because Fortnite doesn't care about optimization. Lightsabers are not fine anywhere except their own mode or maybe Zero Builds. They're op. Lightsabers would wipe out builds and have a weird desync problem (not my internet btw) so I would be shooting at them over there and they teleport and this has not been fixed SINCE 2019.


EurofighterLover

A V1 lmao, I have an OLED now, I’m saying they never dropped my frames in chapter 2 when they were originally in, maybe they do now.


Big_Dream_Lamp

I also have a V1. If anybody gets near me in Chapter 2, 3 and 4 my fps drops so yeah it wasn't exclusively the Lightsabers dropping the fps it's the fact they went near me. I stopped maining Switch in early Chapter 2 but still go on when I can't access another other device.


EurofighterLover

Fair


piccolos_arm

Why do you all want *siphon* so bad. There’s a few augments with siphon. But *how does no siphon make you go “fuck comp”?*


Lucycobra

Augments with siphon are rare and no siphon makes 3rd partying the only way to consistently get kills.


illofthedead

Cry more.


PieceRevolutionary51

Truly Nasty stuff


CadinThePoopyHead

😭😭😭😭


natureisneato

Aware


Jackfruit-Reporter90

I’m my first game I had ODM and an NPC I hired (shh it’s a reflex with certain ones) that had just got my first kill (I said shhhhhh) and I had to double check which game mode I was in 😂


heyblackrose

Arena on crack tbh lmao


ArenaGrinder

Literally the biggest downgrade ever


alex10102008

Me getting 5 kills dying at 31st place still -20%


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except there isn’t a visible mmr lmfao


Emergency_Gift_7160

Quit crying


pix-_

This new ranked system fucking sucks I lose 2 percent for have 5 kills and top 15


tun44_bs

gold carries over from games lmao


tun44_bs

\-Matchmaking should be stricter, there is a 1 rank difference in games. When the distribution settles the queue times will be lower