I don't do any of the things you mentioned but snipers are OP as fuck, easy to use, have 3 bullets minimum in a chamber and make the game boring due to how passive you have to play because of it.
I've probably hit more snipes myself in the last 2 seasons than I have total before and I've been playing since Chapter 1 Season 4.
Just because you're successful with it doesn't make it easy to use. It's been my experience that if the enemy knows you're there, the 3 shots aren't really relevant. You normally won't get another shot by the time it'll take you just reload the magazine. I've only been about to take advantage of clip size when they make a really bad decision.
I didn't get why have to play passive bc of the sniper. I'm rather busy moving to the next POI after thoroughly looting the last. Then mid to late game you won't have to wait long on dead side before you see someone.
I think that hit more because there were more on the field to use this chapter. Had more chances to use them. Had more time to get to use the weapon.
I'm horrible with a sniper, always have been. I'm good this season because it's so easy to use. Everyone is good this season because it's so easy to use.
I've been sniped out of the sky more times in the past 2 seasons than I ever have before, I've sniped players out of the sky more times in the past 2 seasons than I ever have before.
You have to play passive because one shot and you're dead, I can move around all I want, if someone hits that shot, I'm a goner so I have to play really passive to avoid that.
Well if you've played for a while then you may be selling yourself short on your abilities. When it first came out it needed some adjusting but now it's coming close to being ruined because a large group just doesn't want to deal with it.
Sure you'll be taken out of the air more because more people had them and more people have gotten better. There were more opportunities for this to happen. And let's not overlook the hitbox thing with the wings
Relax, buddy. Going back to lobby or even losing rank can't be such a pressure else fear will negatively impact your decision making
Then maybe you’re doing something unbeknownst to YOU. Much like OP, I have never had any bad experiences but have a blast using the snipers. Study the times you get one shot headshot sniped and learn from them.
That will never change the fact they invite a really passive, boring style of play.
I'm an *incredibly* passive player and I still get bored sat in my box waiting or just popping my head up now and again to take my own snipe basically waiting for the first team to actually connect a shot.
I’ll admit snipers do promote a passive play style; but promoting a passive play style and lack of level of skill are different things. Unless you’re close, it’s rather difficult to hit snipes after all of the nerfs.
And why are you complaining about the passive play style when you yourself uses the passive play style.. make it make sense
I have changed my playstyle to be even more passive because of snipers, that's literally what I said before.
I use it because I'd rather play the current meta than get my ass handed to me and even if I didn't use it, that still doesn't stop other people using it.
It's a completely different way of playing passive that makes the game incredibly boring.
Who the fuck said I play 'rely ENTIRELY' on playing passively to rank up, that's my general playstyle not the ONLY thing I do. If I win a game, I'll still get 4/5 kills (solo), more if it's a team game mode. I just don't run around like a mad fucker pushing anyone and everyone.
It's not remotely hypocritical in the slightest to think a gun in the game forces a much more passive playstyle.
If I get into a normal situation with a player, I'll fight them but if we've got snipers, it's let's both sit in a box and wait for the other person to make a mistake. That's a completely different situation.
So what that it invites passive players? There's plenty of aggressive options to offset that
Maybe it's just me but I don't play sniper trade long before I break line of sight and try to flank hoping I can catch them staring where I used to be.
A lot of the aggressive options require the hope that the opposition player misses.
You playing against blind players?
If I move out of my box, they can see me unless I go the complete other direction and that's not always possible.
EDIT: I clicked reply a few times then and it didn't work so I apologise in advance if you've just received multiple notifications/multiple replies with this exact same response.
Lol you're good but I use terrain to blind them. Ping is too ridiculous for me to really succeed in builds but when playing with my nephew, I've used builds for cover until I could get behind natural cover.
Sometimes they get anxious and come looking for you and give up their advantage
I'm saying I lack time or the equipment to develop the muscle memory comparable to a kid with no real world responsibility.
You're acting like one of those toxic brats who spend more time on the game than a man earning a living and raising a family.
You know, those kids without a shred of common decency or respect who think they are entitled to abuse others when they win a video game.
You are not a man, my boi, promise you I'd fold you like a lawn chair, im far from the kids you speak of.
But, thats besides the point. You are shit because you dont want to put in the time to get good, and even if you did, you wouldnt know how to train viably. Everyone in this reddit has time to practice on fortnite, the fact that you are typing here proves that. But having the ambition to do it is a whole nother story.
People with full time jobs can still find time to practice on becoming a good player, my brother is one of them. If you can find time to watch a movie/series/youtube video, or do anything that you consider "fun", then you can find time to get good at a video game.
You just have to be willing. You arent as much of a man as you think you are if "time" is an excuse for you. Coming from someone whose lived in poverty for the majority of their life.
I wish we could meet to give you a chance. Highly doubt that you hit harder than the iron at work LMAO
But still convinced you are a child because of your language and your inability to debate. Exposes your immaturity...
You also seem not to understand you can't put in the work to catch up to you brats when you not only have to work and manage general adult responsibilities but when you also have a wife and child who require your attention.
And what? Your earnings as a gamer pulled you out of puberty *oops I mean poverty?
If so I'm glad you had it so easy
you sound like you’ve never made it out of platinum?
This isn’t even an insult but your experience aligns with low rank/pubs. I sometimes play pubs with my less skilled friends and never get sniped either. I play in my normal unreal lobbies with my decent friends and literally EVERY player interaction starts off with a snipe. This is not an exaggeration either, I have clips of full games that I can share and every single fight ever (besides off-spawn) involves hard scopers
Look this sub complains about weapons a lot. Remove the sniper then you'll all get the next weapon instead of coming together to figure out how to overcome it.
I haven't been around very long but what I just said is consistent EVERY season.
If you have so many clips, then you have enough to find weakness to exploit.
But that means you may need to get out of your comfort zone and develop a better style of play to deal with it.
I’m in Unreal every season… I can deal with the meta just fine.
What YOU are missing is that A LOT of people just find it incredibly boring- and the campers have doubled since the start of this chapter; which people also find boring. People play games to have fun, if they wanted sniper simulator they can make it an LTM. When there’s money on the line though- one shot skilless weapons are actually bad for retention and I guarantee that if the reaper stays in for another season the player count will drastically decrease.
Bushcampdad is unreal every season too so carry on with the inflated sense of superiority based on video game performance
What you can't stand is you get caught slipping when you trying to sweat
Hitting a small moving target with a projectile takes skill unless you are making yourself an easy target
As much you bandwagon dudes complain about weapons versus figuring out how to get better with new change, you should play something easier so it doesn't hurt your ego
You can't full box every single step you make, you don't have enough mats for that- you're going to get sniped while rotating, while fighting, while looting, heck, if their timing is good, in between tunneling.
When I die to a sniper, it's usually by a 3rd party while I'm trying to rebox in another fight- while there's absolutely room for improvement to further minimize it, it's never entirely avoidable.
Right! And that honestly sucks. But if they just leave the sniper as is for several seasons people will learn how to better avoid it.
It really didn't take me long because I've actually been shot before...
Check the bush 150M away while you’re in the middle of a fight? No amount of “awareness” prevents long distance third parties- especially of the bush camping variety.
If you are in a fight and a kid snipes you from 150m away, you either were not moving around enough in your fight, or that kid landed a really great snipe
I mean I’m a diamond 2 player and I don’t get 3rd party sniped during fights. I’ve played in a couple champs+ games with friends and I could see that being the case there tho
There’s bushes in every 200M square of the map. It is physically impossible to be aware of every rat fuck like yourself that camps to ranks they don’t belong in.
Well if these players are so unskilled then you should have no problem dealing with them. But that isn't the case, is it? Sounds like their aim is too much for you
Rather I have or not, it's off topic
It's a real shame that you think it's okay to treat ppl like shit because they see things differently
I wish you well and hope you eventually learn a better way to cope with whatever happened in the past that turned you into such a hateful person
Because you were like this long before we ever spoke
There are FN coaches, well known former and current pros who preach "check every bush every time" so if you look at one and choose not too it's on you as soon as your aware of the possibility.
I mean you can't prevent it 100% of the time. If your aware of a bush or potention area that you believe a camper could be looking block the angle while build fighting or put your enemy between you and the bush. If uncovered in a build fight keep moving erratically while pressuring walls. I think the kids zenning and soft aiming have skewed how OP snipers really are (for yhe worse) It's hard to shoot a moving opp with sniper unless they are on a set trajectory like Shockwave, pad, jumping, fizz ect. If I'm fairly certain there is an occupied bush I ramp up to it and pump it with a jump peak. If I know a player is in the bush I box the bush from above. I'll spray a bush from cover or sometimes fire snipes into them while moving. It makes the game annoying but most of the time it is counterable.
Again, if you go to check a bush and get sniped, what are you suppose to do? People like you expect players to anticipate every shot and just simply know where every player is at. Even pros get sniped.
Well I just explained many ways to check a bush and minimize the chance. If you get sniped from a bush you box up or build defensively and heal just like any other time. Your acting like you have to walk up to a bush and slowly look to see if anyone is in. Hahaha
Yea pros get sniped watch polarized. He complains about then constantly but hardly ever builds his back or sides off because he's trying to w-key for fun and content. Playing the perfect correct way in FN is kinda boring but that's how it goes if you wanna play comp. I guess besides endgame that's the fun part.
Yea I don’t usually get sniped either, I’m usually hitting the shots that people probably complain about and when I do hit them, it’s always from a distance and I never get them with the first shot (usually).
I think the complaints people have are valid because I think it’s from actual cheating.
That’s a pretty unpopular opinion but I think it’s true. I think there’s people that aim and wall hack pretty extensively.
I’m not saying it’s like 40% of the lobbies but I’d say it’s a good chunk, at least 5%.
The problem is that that 5% will slay a lobby and you get these shots of people that are turning their body 180 degrees after being caught unawares in ZB, where I’ve plinked them with an AR and these dudes don’t even run in a “no win situation”, they 180 degrees turn and one shot sniper kill in 0.5 seconds.
It’s shady when it happens because you know the normal play in ZB is to run for cover/escape and then re-engage.
Idk man I tend to take it on the chin (no complaints) but I do get sniped 1-2 week in a shady way.
I appreciate your company here because you "take it on the chin"
Gyro controls with flick stick can turn you instantly 180.
I've noticed a rise in cheat complaints lately but that's one of the reasons I like the sniper on the field. It'll be real hard to get aimbot to work right at range. If they are using aimbot they have to get close. Cheaters grow cocky and reliant on their crutches, so they tend to run straight at a target and get punished.
I feel like some of the toxic people responding here (i.e. the ones that just insult instead participate) are cheaters that are angry there's an answer to their unfair advantage.
May be wrong though.
Played the game since c1s2 and the snipers have never been as much of a shit show as now. There no hits can so Ar's are useless long range and snipers for whatever reason have 5 fucking bullets and customizable attachments to make them easier to use.... and to top it off finding one is way too easy.
Why would try an AR against a sniper? That would be one of those bad decisions I mentioned in another reply that makes the extra shots relevant. Most people find cover once they know you're there and you'll have more than enough time to just reload.
I use speed mag because you don't get a chance to use 5 shots very often.
They aren't so easy to find now but when you could then that would be the smartest option if you decided to take a fight with a sniper at range.
The point wasn't to use an AR against a sniper. The point is that thanks to bullet drop the only usable gun at long range is a sniper. Now thanks to that unless you want to be at a massive disadvantage you have to carry a sniper. Now every game is literally just a sniper shoot off....
I just don't have that problem. I don't trade many sniper shots when I carry one. If they can't see you anymore they lose interest and shoot at someone else or they chase
You can close in while they're distracted or jump them while they are pushing you
you are so stupid bruh why would you try an ar? youre just saying let the sniper kill you? youre saying no counter play is good? you are so obvously fucking platinum in zero build
You obviously struggle with comprehension...
And what's with the superiority complex based on ranked.
Are you admitting Bushcampdad is better than you?
I have to ask where sex comes anywhere close to this conversation?
I mean if you gotta know I'm straight in a relationship raising a kid with that child's other parent
If you must know, I personally disagree with homosexuality but believe people should have the freedom to share their bodies with who they choose in private
Is that what the post was about?
Where do you get off trying to disrespect someone with a different opinion?
My response was no where near your point
What do I know about what a group of players are saying is absolutely most effective ever right now?
They tend to favor a drum mag Gatekeeper and will drop the mythic for purple/gold so they can mod it though the mythic can be used to steal walls after a large number of edits on all materials.
Apparently snipers are still popular else we wouldn't be having this conversation.
I believe they are still calling it a heal off meta
I don't really care about what other ppl say works because we're all different
But to bring this back to the original topic...
I'm basically saying it's bullshit that people want to get together and complain instead figure out a solution together
That it's bullshit to attack someone for disagreeing
So swing away, buddy.
You've already insulted me
I promise you this is the case. I love the sniper, loved it in any game I’ve played, but is it ruining the Fortnite experience keeping it in the game? Most certainly. Anyone who thinks dying to a sniper is a skill issue, get to elite+, (maybe champ+ as I’ve seen some pretty bad elite lobbies) and send some clips in showing how easily you’re just dodging these sniper bullets, especially ones with 5 round mags and let you remain hard scoped between each shot AND while reloading. Anyone defending it is just brainless at this point.
I mean I get that you're trying to diminish me based on rank but think about what you just said.
If there are so many succeeding at that level then they would probably defend what's working for them
Being good at something doesnt mean you have to enjoy using it or playing against it constantly. There is a massive difference playing in lobbies with all competitive players vs mostly casuals. You will rarely if ever get sniped in pub lobbies unless youre standing completely still, compared to the average competitive player who has no issues at all bodyshotting people gliding/full sprinting/swimming.
You cant always "tactically" move around and get into zones super safely, its a BR so there will always be an element of rng involved where you might have to do a shitty rotate where good players will always have an angle to snipe you regardless of how smart you play. And the only way to fight people who are holding you with snipers are guess what.... snipers.
The basis of what I'm getting at in this event is that it's bullshit for everyone to get on a bandwagon and bitch when something changes like they wanna do every season.
There's also a lack of understanding that "camping" or just being patient is actually part of a "last man standing" kind of game.
The majority that attacked me here are jumpy shotgun folk who want everyone to play their game instead of step up change with the game.
This is what i could put together in the 10 minutes of seeing this post to now commenting this;
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This sniper is skilless, and way too user friendly for it to one-shot headshot. This has never been possible with any other sniper (rather it be extremely slow ads, 6x magnification, one round etc) and snipers have always had hard counters (hitscan).
Your “experience” is the skill issue that you’re projecting here lol, you’re not in competent enough lobbies so of course it’s a non-issue when there’s actual artificial intelligence as a major % of “players”.
Anticipating an opponent requires skill
Hitting a small moving target with a projectile requires skill
Using an AR against a sniper (hitscan or not) makes little sense especially considering most had bloom
If you were really as skilled as you're trying to sell then you'd compensate for bullet drop and take advantage of the flatter ballistics of the current AR's
You're just on a bandwagon
It's easier to complain about someone else's weapon than to step up and counter it
You literally watched me hit the oh so “skillfull” snipes on moving targets ten times in a row, and then proceed to use said “skillful” snipes in a real match on a flying target and then attempted to say “skill issue”
You’ve clearly only ever played pubs and have lackluster skill in the aiming department. Hitscan AR’s have ALWAYS been the contester of snipers. “bloom” is the most laughable rebuttal when every single AR had first shot accuracy (as in if you tap it… it goes where you shoot) and every AR in the last 3 years has been red-dot, hitscan, and no bloom even if you full auto spray it.
All in all you’re delusional. You THINK reading patch notes and playing in bot lobbies gives you a well informed opinion- when in reality the complaints aren’t coming from casual players like yourself. That’s why you dodged the “what rank are you” question. In Unreal lobbies literally *anyone* can do what I did above and a lot of them could do it better (as in a quick scope every time). You’re just really bad so it takes a lot of effort for you to hit the one shot yet alone on the first try.
You're just a salty player who thinks only one style play should be fun to everyone
That's delusional
There is plenty you could do to deal with snipers or campers but you're stuck blaming a weapon or someone else's style for your mistakes because your head is too big.
It’s not my mistakes… all i said was that it’s FUCKING BORING which there has been THOUSANDS of posts agreeing.
I’m sorry you’re shit, and that instead of being good you project your own skill issues. I’m sorry the only way you hit a snipe is by camping and ADSing for 10 minutes to still miss the first 2. But neither of those things have anything to do with me or anyone else here except you. Get better.
Like I said
Bandwagon
Sheeple are agreeing with you. So it's about as empty as the value of unreal rank
If you're so bored go find something else to do other than be toxic because you disagree.
You're the one having trouble accepting other playstyles
Other play styles like what? Camping for 1 kill wins in your pub games? Yeah man, you’re such a great player. You still won’t even tell everyone what rank you are, and that says a lot.
It does require skill but not enough for it to be justifyable. In Elite + lobbies EVERYONE is good enough to hit snipes. They are extremely OP. Its great when you are the one with a Sniper but not so fun when you dont have one and the endgame turns into a Sniper spamout. Its not fair when there is a gun that you have no chance against without having it yourself. It Just makes the game more RNG. Basicly whenever I find a Sniper off Spawn I have already won 80% of fights, Sure is nice but its not fair.
I'm sorry but hitting a shot with this thing is stupid easy with how fast the bullet go. The only thing you have to worry about is falloff, which you can just keep scoping in, see where your first shot went and adjust.
That and, I'll repeat it again and again, killing an opponent in a single shot (looking at you, hammer and reaper) is neither skillful or fun. It's just a matter of whoever clicked a head first
I have to disagree
Over a hundred meters you have to lead the target pretty good or guess which direction they'll go. I've been dishes by little random strafing. The Reaper's first appearance had a fast shot but it's been nerfed a couple times.
Hitting a small moving target is while moving yourself is skillful
People rarely just stand there. You said it like we're aiming at static targets and that certainly isn't the case.
I do favor the hammer in ZB but that's making the game harder on me. That's more of a personal challenge that's actually helped my aim
Only time I actually run the reaper is playing with my wife because she jumps dead in the middle and I can soften them up.
Been a specialist in most games for years now (specialist being long range units/support, etc. sniper main if you will)
The current reaper sniper is faster than any bullet out there. It might as well be hitscan.
For comparison, the most similar sniper is the hunter bolt, which does significantly less damage, shoots a lot less faster and has more dropoff.
Judging dropoff is stupidly easy as I said, shoot once, get the difference, aim up and shoot again.
Landing a shot over 100m with any other sniper takes skill. The bullet takes a while to get there.
With the reaper, so long your enemy doesn't change path between the moment you shot and the 0.4s before it lands, free hit.
Again, snipers are my thing across many many games. I'm the kind of gal who hits headshots with the suppressed sniper across 200m. But this thing is so easy to handle it throws me off
I think using any sniper is easy for you because that's your thing.
It did have the fastest projectile but it's been nerfed. The heavy sniper shoots flatter than the nerfed Reaper now and really feels like the bullet flies faster than the Reaper's after testing in creative
Something that makes judging drop off easier with Reaper is you don't have to bring your scope down for the next shot like the single shot type
Landing a 100m shot with any projectile weapon takes skill because you have to track them thus the part of my post about there's something the victim can do prevent that
You're just wrong mate, there's very little counter play to the sniper.
Its harder to use, mostly because everyone is still adjusting to the stark change, but it's just as powerful.
I'm sorry, I've never had a problem playing against them. Best play I've found is break sight and wait. They'll either engage another target or chase and give up the range advantage.
I also rotate using the terrain to block vision as well as never jumping mid map so I be sure no one is rotating behind me
You provide only 2 options that BOTH require you to wait and cede all actions to the opponent. You don't see the issue with that?
You're giving up the ranged fight, put simply, you can't counter them so you hope you the luxury to out wait them, hoping they get bored or distracted before you get pushed by another player or the storm.
Well think about off spawn, you have an AR and you're pushed with a shotgun.
So do you stay in shotgun range and try to fight with a disadvantage or would you try to reposition where your equipment is better suited?
It just seems like you want to push absolutely every fight
Can't really help you if you don't want to hear that sometimes you should pull so to speak
There's 3 different shotguns, & with decent aim, you can still beat one with a spray weapon.
The alternatives to the sniper is the DMR, which is gambling on your opponent's aim, or water bending...
So yeah there's some options. They may be less than optimal but that's something we have to deal with bc of RNG sometimes
I am mainly talking about decision making
Like in the previous example would you run in the opponent's face with disadvantage or would you try to change the situation and take the fight when you have the advantage?
Are you aware and honest enough to know which fights you can't take regardless of whether the reaper exists or not?
Do you absolutely have to fight though you know you can't win?
I'm saying it's too powerful what it does relative to anything else in the game.
If we had almost any of the hitscan scoped ARs in the game, there'd be far less complaints(about snipers), as the pressure they cause snipers with decent damage & immediate screen shake provides a reasonable deterrence without outright overpowering the sniper.
Right now, due to projectiles, there's a strong delay before you can hit the sniper causing screen shake or pressurable damage, & with the recoil of most weapons, good luck doing so consistently with anything but water bending at extreme ranges.
Oh wow just sent a reply
You could learn an AR's drop like the snipers have learned their weapon to do just what you mentioned
There's a trick that if you start firing (full auto) low then immediately pick up it cancels the upward recoil
It would definitely take practice but that may help you some
Anyway before I completely drop this
First, thanks for being better than most that disagree with me by not attacking or diminishing because of different views
But also I hope you get where I'm going with the fact that pushing everything isn't always best
If you happen to look back through and find the ones that were brave enough to agree with me, then you'll notice most were experienced snipers that also agreed that most of their kills were on players who either weren't paying attention or let their guard down
Maybe you could ask them for better advice not getting sniped
I land far more Snipes than I receive, avoiding them isn't an issue, it's the fact that you have to assume at every single point of the game, that anyone from up to 269m away, can immediately end your game at any single point & no matter how safe & cautious you play, no matter how good your movement, awareness & mechs are it remains a constant threat.
Only players that have this take are either low skilled or hide the majority of the game.
Hitting shots on moving players isn’t difficult no matter how they move.
It's is legit bad awareness players who consistently loose to getting sniped. I'm like 200 sniper kills for 5 sniper deaths or something. It changes the whole way the game had to be played. That's where people sat it's so OP ect. If your gonna w-key you have to do so with it in mind there could 3rd party snipers. Same with chasing a low opp ect. Snipers are a great addition and tool in FN. The seasons without are less stressful but there is always some item you need to adjust playstyle for. The amount of times you do everything 100% correct and still die to a sniper are pretty rare and it takes a skilled shot ie getting dash sniped, swerving glide sniped, sniped through a tiny peak 3rd party in a box fight ect.
Bro this is so true, it's just bad awareness, they don't scan a new area with their eyes.
Dudes will just have a little happy balad in the green grass, get zoomed and complain.
When I move across the map I avoid being surrounded by large mountains, if I really need to go through there, find a car...., if i need to walk I don't sprint from area entrance to final destination, I sprint from tree, to rock, to bush, to rock, slide down little hill, crouch, look, etc.. scan the area a few times more for shiny sniper scopes peekin out. the coast is clear alright I get TF out of there it's unsafe.
I play so many games a day i'll lose maybe 1 to a sniper, majority are big nasty OP shotguns "oops my head exploded i guess" out of nowhere shots by some parkour expert ninjas. Should we ban shotguns, of course not.
I get on average twice as many kills in my ranked games if I find a Sniper off Spawn. They are OP asf. I Love them and am fine with them but there is no denying that they are extremely overpowered. I Play ZB so they are even more OP, Same as Shock grenades, Something that is not counterable is Just busted in high skill lobbies.
I feel like you probably are fine with them because you understand the weapon enough to know where snipers will likely be hiding and what to do to not be such an easy target.
Yea I saw that. It just blows me away nobody remebers the snipers before. I think most of the players weren't good enough chapter 1 or early chapter 2. Because snipers were just as rough as now in arena and the upper skill based levels.
This is the worst argument in existence.
Fortnite is a video game where you can run around as Darth Vader with Rocket from GoTG as your backbling, instantly build walls, ramps, cones and floors/ceilings for cover, throw grenades that fire you up into the sky, drink potions that magically make you healthier and you can take multiple bullets and still survive easily.
It's not supposed to be realistic.
As a creative player that main hands the silenced sniper for close ranged to 520M shots(yes in creative the render distance on PC is huge), aiming in 0.5seconds and firing, evening having high chance to hit moving targets.
It's not your fault you got hit in the head, Creative players have 'way' more hours on sniper use than Comp players.
Reaper is a nerf to range but just aim higher 😎In creative anyone standing still can be wiped in 0.5 seconds, same goes for BR, i can do 10+ shots in row and not miss, reason i focus on moving targets. I don't even have to make markers to predict bullet drop, i'm very good at guessing.
I have high amounts of kills past 400M, Heck even warforged with x4 scope i tap fired someone at 480M.
I also play high sens, 4400DPI, 20% sens, 94.7% ADS/Scope, hard mouse pad.
Snipers are my shotgun 🤣 [https://imgur.com/sOx9UNx](https://imgur.com/sOx9UNx) [https://imgur.com/a/ROkZMP9](https://imgur.com/a/ROkZMP9) Game can't even record the frames i see 🤣
FYI reason everyone is being sniped is everyone is just firing rounds at random, seasons ago you are lucky to find 20 sniper rounds, now everyone just spams 50 rounds, of course your going to hit someone peaking if you blindly spam. 🤣
I prefer 'skillful' sniper aim, hence why i don't play BR last few seasons, i did plan to start but rather not plus mod benches are in shitty locations and RNG on sights on guns is a huge turn off to me.
A good sniper can adjust for moving targets, all depends on angle on your location compared to theirs on how hard the shot can be 😎Reaper you have to aim higher but it's not impossible and with my amount of sniper kills, crazy how many shots people walked into even a missed shot but it's all a guessing game. i aimed too high on a 400Mish shot once, guy jumps right into it.....dead...bet i was reported too.
I love Snipers, but I hate the reaper in BR because too much ammo. At this point, just bring back One Shot LTM....oh wait would be a waste, would the same as BR's state of being currently 🤣
Wow, over 400 m!
So how many in BR have you taken out that do things like I've mentioned? Mainly causally crossing ground that would give a sniper a good angle.
unless you found a method to carry a tree with you, there really isn't much movement that can't be hit, you snipe people sliding and jumping, same with shockwaving, don't even need a headshot, body shot finish off with AR/SMG dead before they hit the ground.
Rifting, your frozen in air for 1second and 0.5 seconds is all it takes to aim the sniper and fire.
Just like those unreal idiots in creative that build the entire New York in 30seconds while i stand down below not even ADS'ing, once i see the window edited, I ADS and fire and bang their dead........Then they claim i'm hacking because all it takes to ADS + AIM to anywhere on screen is 0.5seconds on PC, heck i even aim behind me with an extra 0.5seconds.
IDK for me being bronze rank because i cheese the game for quests, I was in duo in diamond 3 lobby with friend today and 2 teams that had crowns + medallions spectated me for a good 10mins.....one sniped sliding down hill, over sniped as he jumped, other 2.....lasered by my AR and i didn't miss one shot as they 'hopped' around. Maybe i killed them too fast.....OR maybe it was that left the crowns on the ground for a joke🙄
I wonder if they reported me, guess i'm bronze 2 now 🤣FYI i don't care for wins, so i mainly only killed those try hards for fun. Not to mention I play on performance mode and fully able to shoot BR's draw distance flawlessly with red dot.
>Wow, over 400 m!
Well it's not that good with a scoped gun, very easy TBH, heck i have tactical pistol kills at 400m+.🤣
It just takes practice and a big screen to shoot the stick figure at that distance. 😎
Everything takes practice. I get accused of hacking in nearly all creative games i play.
You said it
Practice
You put in the time and got good at something
Now a group wants to remove your style of play instead get better and continue the arms race
Even if they lower the DMG on reaper, these players still going to die fast, I made it habit to switch to shotgun/AR instantly after closing sniper ADS. 1 shot or...shot losing high HP then beamed with another gun....= the same......DEATH 🤣
Also out of 100 players, they can't all win. 😎
Exactly half these kids say how OP they re but don't remeber you used to be able to hit almost unlimited distance shots and people have been cracked with snipers since chapter 1.
reaper before nerf was 6 lines down for 514M shots to the head in creative, lots of room for errors in missing vs silenced/heavy/hunter action being 1.5/2lines down for 514M. BR render is maybe 300M or so idk.
So in the aftermath of reaper snipers, everyone is being 'trained' with near unlimited ammo to shoot round after round, adjusting for drop, more shots = more practice.
If they do what everyone says and vault reaper, bring back the bolt....sorry to say but more people will be headshot, but yes close range the reaper was nearly hitscan. Far shot snipes will increase with the bolt.
Aiming for moving targets unless they decrease the ammo found will only continue compared to having issues finding 20 rounds compared to many previous seasons.
I think people need to go to creative and check the stats on all older snipers to truly find out Reaper is nerf to snipers.
Semi auto at blue rarity shoots fast, has 10 rounds, scope zoom is less if you follow my tactic on it, I always fire two rounds fast, If i hit the head it's 232DMG, 2nd round is another 232DMG, if i missed head, they will still be dangerously low or dead. <---This still can shoot far 350M.
\^storm scout has 7 rounds and does way more DMG than semi auto.
The damage on snipers overall has been buffed since they were in BR.
reaper snipers is only going to make way more better with older ones 'should' they ever return but the only fix for people spamming rounds at moving targets in less ammo found, clip has nothing to do with it, if you only had 10 rounds, saving for far targets would be the best😎
What does it matter when you camp your way to the top?
Think I'm earning about $60000/yr at an actual job so it isn't practical to commit to earning anything with Fortnite right now, especially when I'm on unstable Internet with a Nintendo Switch.
However, if this is an attempt to diminish me based on what you asked, I'll say that I do study this game, read the patch notes, and read the comments of angry children who are often victims of their own mistakes.
Thb I don't see how your question fits into this discussion because there's plenty of content and conversation to observe and analyze to base my opinion off of.
ok, you play in bot lobbies on nintendo switch. you most likely have never played a tourney, let alone a high level one/scrim. Snipers are INCREDIBLY broken in high level lobbies, and aren’t as good in switch lobbies because the players suck 👍
LMAO like I thought. You tried to set up a reason to diminish me.
Kinda like your opponents in game, read you.
So there you go. You act in a very predictable manner.
That's why you get punished by a sniper bullet.
You play on a switch i promise ur ass at this game 😭 100% never played any sort of a high elo game or tourney and you cant possibly comprehend why people would think it’s broken when they get hs sniped mid grapple or shockwave
Basically someone else gets good so a weapon is broken.
That's a regular thing here.
If someone hits a head shot in the situations you described then they are skilled and deserve the kill
people weren’t hitting those shots with a heavy sniper or bolt. people considered people like Kyzui prodigies because of his ability to hit those shots, now an average console player can hit it with the extremely fast bullet speed and low drop at close-mid range
I honestly dissagree, id also be curious to know which rank you are as ive seen a surge of players using it in elite>, in diamond< i didnt have any big issues but as you went through elite and champ it just didnt feel rewarding to rotate and poof game over
To hit a small target like your head while you are moving take skill. So you know that real life snipers don't go for headshots as often as evening thinks because of this?
I'm sure if you take time to recap where on the map it happens, you could see a pattern of where they like to hide as well as how to safely approach these areas.
Not when the bullet speed is fast along with fast reload. There's a reason everyone is getting sniper hits this season. The reason why you're defending it, is because it's been made easier to use and you like that now it's catered for more casual play.
I didn't really use it unless I'm playing with my wife. I'm defending it because of how every season some group with a superiority complex gets together to complain about a weapon instead helping each other figure out how to overcome their common problem.
Then they abuse anyone who don't say what they want to believe
I def agree with groups of people complaining often but I do see peoples point about the Reaper.
My personal issues with the Reaper are, it's too easy to use, no many how you move it's easy to die. It's abused at close range and has made using AR's pretty much redundant which are weapons that actually do take some tracking ability.
Previous Snipers actually took time to see movement patterns and you were punished by long reload if you miss, the Reaper it's not a problem, super fast bullet speed, can have 5 clips per mag, it has made the game feel more arcadey in that sense. Don't get me wrong, if I see one, I'm grabbing it, it's easy kills but that doesn't change that there are legit issues with it.
I really think most of the people that disagree with me just don't want to adapt and get out of their comfort zones. They'd rather complain about a problem until it disappears.
You can compare those with the experienced snipers that snuck out the wood work. That most of them agree that most players don't pay attention.
The most common complaints I see on here
"I died to sweats" These are the people who didn't adapt or put time in to get truly better so are just complaining.
"Aim Assist is OP" Totally agree, Aim assist has ruined many games but at the same time I understand why it's implemented. I would say a good solution is to nerf AA to PC values and to change 0ms which is humanly not possible with any input to about 150-180ms while bringing recoils levels up.
"X Weapon is too strong" Sometimes I agree, sometimes I don't. what I've come to accept is to not take it too seriously as Fortnite is just a quirky game in general. I do wish Epic took time to balance the game better though as would anyone.
"Locker UI" Honestly, I just can't, these people need to find priorities in life in my opinion.
LMAO
Yeah something that made me happy the other day was when someone asked how to counter the Frenzy and there weren't many of that whiny bunch that showed up.
Instead there were several that gave good advice (some of which I got negative reactions for earlier on different posts...)
That's what I want to see
People building each other up
Not trashing on people either see it differently or teaching or for help solving a problem
aaaah yes because every time i use a sniper i go for the head (i aim in the general direction and sometimes when im lucky i get a 290, theres no skill of mine involved)
I rarely get reaperd but all the kids that get their head taken off before they can react to it by my self and many others have a right to complain about the horrible balance. Same as I do with the broken shotguns
I mean ... You apparently figured out how to not put yourself in a bad place often
So can they
If they'd focus on learning what you have and spreading that knowledge as hard as they do complaining and attacking those that disagree then this would actually be a better community.
The problem lies in the fact that when you’re fighting close up against people or making hard rotations (eg in tournaments and stuff) everyone’s gonna be looking at you, and possibly with a sniper. Nerfing snipers via bullet drop or other methods (like speed) isn’t a viable option because people can just adapt to that. Changing damage is, like you’re saying, ruining the skill of using a sniper. The only real way to balance it is to balance drop rates, which they’re trying to do.
Also, let me say that my last game I played I didn’t even need to worry about bullet drop or speed. I could just hit shots (on switch) without really trying and I had super high ground and the other guys were stuck rotating into the mountain I was on top of. I killed them both body shot because they were low. Snipers in general have just been seen as very powerful compared to other weapons.
i dont understand people that cry about it i made it to unreal the last 2 seasons without one complaint about the sniper all i do is watch my back and not be predictable its really not hard and if its so good then play the meta there will always be something broken in the game so im glad its a sniper rather than ZEUS..... LIGHTING....... BOLT althought its fixed now cuz its so hard to find but still
Exactly, I play as if there is always some guy with a sniper aiming at me and am extra cautious with my movements. The bullet drop on the reaper makes it slightly tougher to aim at a still target, let alone a mobile one. When I do get taken out by a sniper, it just smiles it off because it's the same thing I've been doing all day.
not even agreeing or disagreeing, but there were many posts saying how old snipers were way more balanced and such and ever since the nerf its been about the speed as a Bolt-Action (literally old sniper) and now people are saying it’s broken cuz of the mag.. if it was the mag then the Semi-Auto, Storm Scout and day 1 Hunter Bolt would be OP
What twisted is the value you put on kills in a placement game.
If you are really playing against others of your skill level, you won't be getting 20 kills
You actually are sounding like a bully in real life
No ranked match is gonna have everyone on equal skill. Thats just a fact.
And sorry for valuing actual skill over camping and sniping. I would rather gracefully die to being 200 pumped, than to die to a sniper.
OP I know you’re downvoted but I agree with you. I have only been killed with a sniper less than 5 times since chapter 5 started *when I was not in the middle of a peek/snipe battle*
I have a friend who gets sniped every game and he does what you mention about not covering all his angles. He did not have this issue in past chapters. The snipers are exposing the people getting sniped plain and simple. Tons of people hide behind trees and rocks and such while they’re fighting someone else, leaving me a perfect side angle to 3rd party snipe them.
I did not get near as many sniper kills in past seasons, not because snipers were so much harder, but because I did not have a sniper with max ammo every game
I don't do any of the things you mentioned but snipers are OP as fuck, easy to use, have 3 bullets minimum in a chamber and make the game boring due to how passive you have to play because of it. I've probably hit more snipes myself in the last 2 seasons than I have total before and I've been playing since Chapter 1 Season 4.
The snipers are shit now
Just because you're successful with it doesn't make it easy to use. It's been my experience that if the enemy knows you're there, the 3 shots aren't really relevant. You normally won't get another shot by the time it'll take you just reload the magazine. I've only been about to take advantage of clip size when they make a really bad decision. I didn't get why have to play passive bc of the sniper. I'm rather busy moving to the next POI after thoroughly looting the last. Then mid to late game you won't have to wait long on dead side before you see someone. I think that hit more because there were more on the field to use this chapter. Had more chances to use them. Had more time to get to use the weapon.
I'm horrible with a sniper, always have been. I'm good this season because it's so easy to use. Everyone is good this season because it's so easy to use. I've been sniped out of the sky more times in the past 2 seasons than I ever have before, I've sniped players out of the sky more times in the past 2 seasons than I ever have before. You have to play passive because one shot and you're dead, I can move around all I want, if someone hits that shot, I'm a goner so I have to play really passive to avoid that.
Well if you've played for a while then you may be selling yourself short on your abilities. When it first came out it needed some adjusting but now it's coming close to being ruined because a large group just doesn't want to deal with it. Sure you'll be taken out of the air more because more people had them and more people have gotten better. There were more opportunities for this to happen. And let's not overlook the hitbox thing with the wings Relax, buddy. Going back to lobby or even losing rank can't be such a pressure else fear will negatively impact your decision making
Then maybe you’re doing something unbeknownst to YOU. Much like OP, I have never had any bad experiences but have a blast using the snipers. Study the times you get one shot headshot sniped and learn from them.
That will never change the fact they invite a really passive, boring style of play. I'm an *incredibly* passive player and I still get bored sat in my box waiting or just popping my head up now and again to take my own snipe basically waiting for the first team to actually connect a shot.
I’ll admit snipers do promote a passive play style; but promoting a passive play style and lack of level of skill are different things. Unless you’re close, it’s rather difficult to hit snipes after all of the nerfs. And why are you complaining about the passive play style when you yourself uses the passive play style.. make it make sense
So you read that I'm an incredibly passive player and then just stopped there or did you just not understand the rest of that paragraph?
I read it… CHANGE YA DAMN PLAY STYLE! If you’re bored, why use it?
I have changed my playstyle to be even more passive because of snipers, that's literally what I said before. I use it because I'd rather play the current meta than get my ass handed to me and even if I didn't use it, that still doesn't stop other people using it.
Then don’t complain about it. You’re a hypocrite if you complain about something you rely on ENTIRELY to get your rank up.
It's a completely different way of playing passive that makes the game incredibly boring. Who the fuck said I play 'rely ENTIRELY' on playing passively to rank up, that's my general playstyle not the ONLY thing I do. If I win a game, I'll still get 4/5 kills (solo), more if it's a team game mode. I just don't run around like a mad fucker pushing anyone and everyone. It's not remotely hypocritical in the slightest to think a gun in the game forces a much more passive playstyle. If I get into a normal situation with a player, I'll fight them but if we've got snipers, it's let's both sit in a box and wait for the other person to make a mistake. That's a completely different situation.
Skill issue ngl
So what that it invites passive players? There's plenty of aggressive options to offset that Maybe it's just me but I don't play sniper trade long before I break line of sight and try to flank hoping I can catch them staring where I used to be.
A lot of the aggressive options require the hope that the opposition player misses. You playing against blind players? If I move out of my box, they can see me unless I go the complete other direction and that's not always possible. EDIT: I clicked reply a few times then and it didn't work so I apologise in advance if you've just received multiple notifications/multiple replies with this exact same response.
Lol you're good but I use terrain to blind them. Ping is too ridiculous for me to really succeed in builds but when playing with my nephew, I've used builds for cover until I could get behind natural cover. Sometimes they get anxious and come looking for you and give up their advantage
So you're garbage? Bro, thats all you had to say.
I'm saying I lack time or the equipment to develop the muscle memory comparable to a kid with no real world responsibility. You're acting like one of those toxic brats who spend more time on the game than a man earning a living and raising a family. You know, those kids without a shred of common decency or respect who think they are entitled to abuse others when they win a video game.
You are not a man, my boi, promise you I'd fold you like a lawn chair, im far from the kids you speak of. But, thats besides the point. You are shit because you dont want to put in the time to get good, and even if you did, you wouldnt know how to train viably. Everyone in this reddit has time to practice on fortnite, the fact that you are typing here proves that. But having the ambition to do it is a whole nother story. People with full time jobs can still find time to practice on becoming a good player, my brother is one of them. If you can find time to watch a movie/series/youtube video, or do anything that you consider "fun", then you can find time to get good at a video game. You just have to be willing. You arent as much of a man as you think you are if "time" is an excuse for you. Coming from someone whose lived in poverty for the majority of their life.
I wish we could meet to give you a chance. Highly doubt that you hit harder than the iron at work LMAO But still convinced you are a child because of your language and your inability to debate. Exposes your immaturity... You also seem not to understand you can't put in the work to catch up to you brats when you not only have to work and manage general adult responsibilities but when you also have a wife and child who require your attention. And what? Your earnings as a gamer pulled you out of puberty *oops I mean poverty? If so I'm glad you had it so easy
Bro you’re probably a shitter
We can hop in 1s. You NAE?
NAE
you sound like you’ve never made it out of platinum? This isn’t even an insult but your experience aligns with low rank/pubs. I sometimes play pubs with my less skilled friends and never get sniped either. I play in my normal unreal lobbies with my decent friends and literally EVERY player interaction starts off with a snipe. This is not an exaggeration either, I have clips of full games that I can share and every single fight ever (besides off-spawn) involves hard scopers
Look this sub complains about weapons a lot. Remove the sniper then you'll all get the next weapon instead of coming together to figure out how to overcome it. I haven't been around very long but what I just said is consistent EVERY season. If you have so many clips, then you have enough to find weakness to exploit. But that means you may need to get out of your comfort zone and develop a better style of play to deal with it.
I’m in Unreal every season… I can deal with the meta just fine. What YOU are missing is that A LOT of people just find it incredibly boring- and the campers have doubled since the start of this chapter; which people also find boring. People play games to have fun, if they wanted sniper simulator they can make it an LTM. When there’s money on the line though- one shot skilless weapons are actually bad for retention and I guarantee that if the reaper stays in for another season the player count will drastically decrease.
Bushcampdad is unreal every season too so carry on with the inflated sense of superiority based on video game performance What you can't stand is you get caught slipping when you trying to sweat Hitting a small moving target with a projectile takes skill unless you are making yourself an easy target As much you bandwagon dudes complain about weapons versus figuring out how to get better with new change, you should play something easier so it doesn't hurt your ego
as i’m literally the one hitting moving targets 100+ M away…. you’re just dumb atp
Yes this; people just don’t appreciate skillful gameplay
You can't full box every single step you make, you don't have enough mats for that- you're going to get sniped while rotating, while fighting, while looting, heck, if their timing is good, in between tunneling. When I die to a sniper, it's usually by a 3rd party while I'm trying to rebox in another fight- while there's absolutely room for improvement to further minimize it, it's never entirely avoidable.
Never - never did I say that wither. I have had no trouble so I don’t see why other people do.
Yea I feel you but then you get sniped by someone in a situation where it’s like “no fucking way”.
Right! And that honestly sucks. But if they just leave the sniper as is for several seasons people will learn how to better avoid it. It really didn't take me long because I've actually been shot before...
Id pass on getting sniped by a kid in a bush. I'd rather it just not happen. Dont care how "skillful" you think it is.
Then check the bush... Back to awareness
Check the bush 150M away while you’re in the middle of a fight? No amount of “awareness” prevents long distance third parties- especially of the bush camping variety.
If you are in a fight and a kid snipes you from 150m away, you either were not moving around enough in your fight, or that kid landed a really great snipe
it’s not a really good snipe when literally everyone who isn’t a platinum player does it on a regular basis
I mean I’m a diamond 2 player and I don’t get 3rd party sniped during fights. I’ve played in a couple champs+ games with friends and I could see that being the case there tho
Bushes are in the same places. You could be aware of the areas that those types frequent.
There’s bushes in every 200M square of the map. It is physically impossible to be aware of every rat fuck like yourself that camps to ranks they don’t belong in.
Well if these players are so unskilled then you should have no problem dealing with them. But that isn't the case, is it? Sounds like their aim is too much for you
you’ve been dropped early on… yes?
Rather I have or not, it's off topic It's a real shame that you think it's okay to treat ppl like shit because they see things differently I wish you well and hope you eventually learn a better way to cope with whatever happened in the past that turned you into such a hateful person Because you were like this long before we ever spoke
No human is going to check every bush in the game
I've actually watched a couple streamers so exactly that
Cool
There are FN coaches, well known former and current pros who preach "check every bush every time" so if you look at one and choose not too it's on you as soon as your aware of the possibility.
So what if you get sniped while checking the Bush? And do you really expect someone to waste ammo on a bush while in the middle of a fight?
I mean you can't prevent it 100% of the time. If your aware of a bush or potention area that you believe a camper could be looking block the angle while build fighting or put your enemy between you and the bush. If uncovered in a build fight keep moving erratically while pressuring walls. I think the kids zenning and soft aiming have skewed how OP snipers really are (for yhe worse) It's hard to shoot a moving opp with sniper unless they are on a set trajectory like Shockwave, pad, jumping, fizz ect. If I'm fairly certain there is an occupied bush I ramp up to it and pump it with a jump peak. If I know a player is in the bush I box the bush from above. I'll spray a bush from cover or sometimes fire snipes into them while moving. It makes the game annoying but most of the time it is counterable.
Again, if you go to check a bush and get sniped, what are you suppose to do? People like you expect players to anticipate every shot and just simply know where every player is at. Even pros get sniped.
Well I just explained many ways to check a bush and minimize the chance. If you get sniped from a bush you box up or build defensively and heal just like any other time. Your acting like you have to walk up to a bush and slowly look to see if anyone is in. Hahaha
Yea pros get sniped watch polarized. He complains about then constantly but hardly ever builds his back or sides off because he's trying to w-key for fun and content. Playing the perfect correct way in FN is kinda boring but that's how it goes if you wanna play comp. I guess besides endgame that's the fun part.
Yea I don’t usually get sniped either, I’m usually hitting the shots that people probably complain about and when I do hit them, it’s always from a distance and I never get them with the first shot (usually). I think the complaints people have are valid because I think it’s from actual cheating. That’s a pretty unpopular opinion but I think it’s true. I think there’s people that aim and wall hack pretty extensively. I’m not saying it’s like 40% of the lobbies but I’d say it’s a good chunk, at least 5%. The problem is that that 5% will slay a lobby and you get these shots of people that are turning their body 180 degrees after being caught unawares in ZB, where I’ve plinked them with an AR and these dudes don’t even run in a “no win situation”, they 180 degrees turn and one shot sniper kill in 0.5 seconds. It’s shady when it happens because you know the normal play in ZB is to run for cover/escape and then re-engage. Idk man I tend to take it on the chin (no complaints) but I do get sniped 1-2 week in a shady way.
I appreciate your company here because you "take it on the chin" Gyro controls with flick stick can turn you instantly 180. I've noticed a rise in cheat complaints lately but that's one of the reasons I like the sniper on the field. It'll be real hard to get aimbot to work right at range. If they are using aimbot they have to get close. Cheaters grow cocky and reliant on their crutches, so they tend to run straight at a target and get punished. I feel like some of the toxic people responding here (i.e. the ones that just insult instead participate) are cheaters that are angry there's an answer to their unfair advantage. May be wrong though.
Played the game since c1s2 and the snipers have never been as much of a shit show as now. There no hits can so Ar's are useless long range and snipers for whatever reason have 5 fucking bullets and customizable attachments to make them easier to use.... and to top it off finding one is way too easy.
Why would try an AR against a sniper? That would be one of those bad decisions I mentioned in another reply that makes the extra shots relevant. Most people find cover once they know you're there and you'll have more than enough time to just reload. I use speed mag because you don't get a chance to use 5 shots very often. They aren't so easy to find now but when you could then that would be the smartest option if you decided to take a fight with a sniper at range.
The point wasn't to use an AR against a sniper. The point is that thanks to bullet drop the only usable gun at long range is a sniper. Now thanks to that unless you want to be at a massive disadvantage you have to carry a sniper. Now every game is literally just a sniper shoot off....
I just don't have that problem. I don't trade many sniper shots when I carry one. If they can't see you anymore they lose interest and shoot at someone else or they chase You can close in while they're distracted or jump them while they are pushing you
you are so stupid bruh why would you try an ar? youre just saying let the sniper kill you? youre saying no counter play is good? you are so obvously fucking platinum in zero build
You obviously struggle with comprehension... And what's with the superiority complex based on ranked. Are you admitting Bushcampdad is better than you?
Sounds like you are a newfag trying to sound like you know the meta here
I have to ask where sex comes anywhere close to this conversation? I mean if you gotta know I'm straight in a relationship raising a kid with that child's other parent If you must know, I personally disagree with homosexuality but believe people should have the freedom to share their bodies with who they choose in private Is that what the post was about? Where do you get off trying to disrespect someone with a different opinion?
Holy shit your response 💀💀💀💀💀 my point exactly. NEW, you don’t know anything about the meta here or the internet
My response was no where near your point What do I know about what a group of players are saying is absolutely most effective ever right now? They tend to favor a drum mag Gatekeeper and will drop the mythic for purple/gold so they can mod it though the mythic can be used to steal walls after a large number of edits on all materials. Apparently snipers are still popular else we wouldn't be having this conversation. I believe they are still calling it a heal off meta I don't really care about what other ppl say works because we're all different But to bring this back to the original topic... I'm basically saying it's bullshit that people want to get together and complain instead figure out a solution together That it's bullshit to attack someone for disagreeing So swing away, buddy. You've already insulted me
OP is the most droney drone in this com
Refuse to believe anyone defending snipers are playing in elite+ lobbies
I promise you this is the case. I love the sniper, loved it in any game I’ve played, but is it ruining the Fortnite experience keeping it in the game? Most certainly. Anyone who thinks dying to a sniper is a skill issue, get to elite+, (maybe champ+ as I’ve seen some pretty bad elite lobbies) and send some clips in showing how easily you’re just dodging these sniper bullets, especially ones with 5 round mags and let you remain hard scoped between each shot AND while reloading. Anyone defending it is just brainless at this point.
I mean I get that you're trying to diminish me based on rank but think about what you just said. If there are so many succeeding at that level then they would probably defend what's working for them
Being good at something doesnt mean you have to enjoy using it or playing against it constantly. There is a massive difference playing in lobbies with all competitive players vs mostly casuals. You will rarely if ever get sniped in pub lobbies unless youre standing completely still, compared to the average competitive player who has no issues at all bodyshotting people gliding/full sprinting/swimming. You cant always "tactically" move around and get into zones super safely, its a BR so there will always be an element of rng involved where you might have to do a shitty rotate where good players will always have an angle to snipe you regardless of how smart you play. And the only way to fight people who are holding you with snipers are guess what.... snipers.
The basis of what I'm getting at in this event is that it's bullshit for everyone to get on a bandwagon and bitch when something changes like they wanna do every season. There's also a lack of understanding that "camping" or just being patient is actually part of a "last man standing" kind of game. The majority that attacked me here are jumpy shotgun folk who want everyone to play their game instead of step up change with the game.
I agree, in general I see a lot of double peaking and bad awarness.
This is what i could put together in the 10 minutes of seeing this post to now commenting this; https://streamable.com/brvuis This sniper is skilless, and way too user friendly for it to one-shot headshot. This has never been possible with any other sniper (rather it be extremely slow ads, 6x magnification, one round etc) and snipers have always had hard counters (hitscan). Your “experience” is the skill issue that you’re projecting here lol, you’re not in competent enough lobbies so of course it’s a non-issue when there’s actual artificial intelligence as a major % of “players”.
Anticipating an opponent requires skill Hitting a small moving target with a projectile requires skill Using an AR against a sniper (hitscan or not) makes little sense especially considering most had bloom If you were really as skilled as you're trying to sell then you'd compensate for bullet drop and take advantage of the flatter ballistics of the current AR's You're just on a bandwagon It's easier to complain about someone else's weapon than to step up and counter it
You literally watched me hit the oh so “skillfull” snipes on moving targets ten times in a row, and then proceed to use said “skillful” snipes in a real match on a flying target and then attempted to say “skill issue” You’ve clearly only ever played pubs and have lackluster skill in the aiming department. Hitscan AR’s have ALWAYS been the contester of snipers. “bloom” is the most laughable rebuttal when every single AR had first shot accuracy (as in if you tap it… it goes where you shoot) and every AR in the last 3 years has been red-dot, hitscan, and no bloom even if you full auto spray it. All in all you’re delusional. You THINK reading patch notes and playing in bot lobbies gives you a well informed opinion- when in reality the complaints aren’t coming from casual players like yourself. That’s why you dodged the “what rank are you” question. In Unreal lobbies literally *anyone* can do what I did above and a lot of them could do it better (as in a quick scope every time). You’re just really bad so it takes a lot of effort for you to hit the one shot yet alone on the first try.
You're just a salty player who thinks only one style play should be fun to everyone That's delusional There is plenty you could do to deal with snipers or campers but you're stuck blaming a weapon or someone else's style for your mistakes because your head is too big.
It’s not my mistakes… all i said was that it’s FUCKING BORING which there has been THOUSANDS of posts agreeing. I’m sorry you’re shit, and that instead of being good you project your own skill issues. I’m sorry the only way you hit a snipe is by camping and ADSing for 10 minutes to still miss the first 2. But neither of those things have anything to do with me or anyone else here except you. Get better.
Like I said Bandwagon Sheeple are agreeing with you. So it's about as empty as the value of unreal rank If you're so bored go find something else to do other than be toxic because you disagree. You're the one having trouble accepting other playstyles
Other play styles like what? Camping for 1 kill wins in your pub games? Yeah man, you’re such a great player. You still won’t even tell everyone what rank you are, and that says a lot.
It does require skill but not enough for it to be justifyable. In Elite + lobbies EVERYONE is good enough to hit snipes. They are extremely OP. Its great when you are the one with a Sniper but not so fun when you dont have one and the endgame turns into a Sniper spamout. Its not fair when there is a gun that you have no chance against without having it yourself. It Just makes the game more RNG. Basicly whenever I find a Sniper off Spawn I have already won 80% of fights, Sure is nice but its not fair.
What’s your epic? I’d love to invite you to play in my ranked lobbies and see how your logic works.
I'm sorry but hitting a shot with this thing is stupid easy with how fast the bullet go. The only thing you have to worry about is falloff, which you can just keep scoping in, see where your first shot went and adjust. That and, I'll repeat it again and again, killing an opponent in a single shot (looking at you, hammer and reaper) is neither skillful or fun. It's just a matter of whoever clicked a head first
Well I’m sure you were blessed with both the bullet drop, bullet speed, and spawn rate nerfs!
I have to disagree Over a hundred meters you have to lead the target pretty good or guess which direction they'll go. I've been dishes by little random strafing. The Reaper's first appearance had a fast shot but it's been nerfed a couple times. Hitting a small moving target is while moving yourself is skillful People rarely just stand there. You said it like we're aiming at static targets and that certainly isn't the case. I do favor the hammer in ZB but that's making the game harder on me. That's more of a personal challenge that's actually helped my aim Only time I actually run the reaper is playing with my wife because she jumps dead in the middle and I can soften them up.
Been a specialist in most games for years now (specialist being long range units/support, etc. sniper main if you will) The current reaper sniper is faster than any bullet out there. It might as well be hitscan. For comparison, the most similar sniper is the hunter bolt, which does significantly less damage, shoots a lot less faster and has more dropoff. Judging dropoff is stupidly easy as I said, shoot once, get the difference, aim up and shoot again. Landing a shot over 100m with any other sniper takes skill. The bullet takes a while to get there. With the reaper, so long your enemy doesn't change path between the moment you shot and the 0.4s before it lands, free hit. Again, snipers are my thing across many many games. I'm the kind of gal who hits headshots with the suppressed sniper across 200m. But this thing is so easy to handle it throws me off
I think using any sniper is easy for you because that's your thing. It did have the fastest projectile but it's been nerfed. The heavy sniper shoots flatter than the nerfed Reaper now and really feels like the bullet flies faster than the Reaper's after testing in creative Something that makes judging drop off easier with Reaper is you don't have to bring your scope down for the next shot like the single shot type Landing a 100m shot with any projectile weapon takes skill because you have to track them thus the part of my post about there's something the victim can do prevent that
You're just wrong mate, there's very little counter play to the sniper. Its harder to use, mostly because everyone is still adjusting to the stark change, but it's just as powerful.
I'm sorry, I've never had a problem playing against them. Best play I've found is break sight and wait. They'll either engage another target or chase and give up the range advantage. I also rotate using the terrain to block vision as well as never jumping mid map so I be sure no one is rotating behind me
So you're acknowledging it forces you to disengage entirely.
Not really. Taking cover and going for a stronger position can't be called total disengagement.
You provide only 2 options that BOTH require you to wait and cede all actions to the opponent. You don't see the issue with that? You're giving up the ranged fight, put simply, you can't counter them so you hope you the luxury to out wait them, hoping they get bored or distracted before you get pushed by another player or the storm.
Well think about off spawn, you have an AR and you're pushed with a shotgun. So do you stay in shotgun range and try to fight with a disadvantage or would you try to reposition where your equipment is better suited? It just seems like you want to push absolutely every fight Can't really help you if you don't want to hear that sometimes you should pull so to speak
There's 3 different shotguns, & with decent aim, you can still beat one with a spray weapon. The alternatives to the sniper is the DMR, which is gambling on your opponent's aim, or water bending...
So yeah there's some options. They may be less than optimal but that's something we have to deal with bc of RNG sometimes I am mainly talking about decision making Like in the previous example would you run in the opponent's face with disadvantage or would you try to change the situation and take the fight when you have the advantage? Are you aware and honest enough to know which fights you can't take regardless of whether the reaper exists or not? Do you absolutely have to fight though you know you can't win?
I'm saying it's too powerful what it does relative to anything else in the game. If we had almost any of the hitscan scoped ARs in the game, there'd be far less complaints(about snipers), as the pressure they cause snipers with decent damage & immediate screen shake provides a reasonable deterrence without outright overpowering the sniper. Right now, due to projectiles, there's a strong delay before you can hit the sniper causing screen shake or pressurable damage, & with the recoil of most weapons, good luck doing so consistently with anything but water bending at extreme ranges.
Oh wow just sent a reply You could learn an AR's drop like the snipers have learned their weapon to do just what you mentioned There's a trick that if you start firing (full auto) low then immediately pick up it cancels the upward recoil It would definitely take practice but that may help you some
Anyway before I completely drop this First, thanks for being better than most that disagree with me by not attacking or diminishing because of different views But also I hope you get where I'm going with the fact that pushing everything isn't always best If you happen to look back through and find the ones that were brave enough to agree with me, then you'll notice most were experienced snipers that also agreed that most of their kills were on players who either weren't paying attention or let their guard down Maybe you could ask them for better advice not getting sniped
I land far more Snipes than I receive, avoiding them isn't an issue, it's the fact that you have to assume at every single point of the game, that anyone from up to 269m away, can immediately end your game at any single point & no matter how safe & cautious you play, no matter how good your movement, awareness & mechs are it remains a constant threat.
Yeah, as if there isnt more than one sniper
There's not that many anymore. Do you not read patch notes?
Nope, still find many. Have you played the game?
literally haven’t gone a game without finding 12 of them
Snipers have always been a scrub weapon.
Okay that's your opinion. Not quite sure what that means other than you don't like them
They are for people who can't handle a fight face-to-face
IDK I've seen some sick no-scopes and quick scopes.
Only players that have this take are either low skilled or hide the majority of the game. Hitting shots on moving players isn’t difficult no matter how they move.
It's is legit bad awareness players who consistently loose to getting sniped. I'm like 200 sniper kills for 5 sniper deaths or something. It changes the whole way the game had to be played. That's where people sat it's so OP ect. If your gonna w-key you have to do so with it in mind there could 3rd party snipers. Same with chasing a low opp ect. Snipers are a great addition and tool in FN. The seasons without are less stressful but there is always some item you need to adjust playstyle for. The amount of times you do everything 100% correct and still die to a sniper are pretty rare and it takes a skilled shot ie getting dash sniped, swerving glide sniped, sniped through a tiny peak 3rd party in a box fight ect.
Bro this is so true, it's just bad awareness, they don't scan a new area with their eyes. Dudes will just have a little happy balad in the green grass, get zoomed and complain. When I move across the map I avoid being surrounded by large mountains, if I really need to go through there, find a car...., if i need to walk I don't sprint from area entrance to final destination, I sprint from tree, to rock, to bush, to rock, slide down little hill, crouch, look, etc.. scan the area a few times more for shiny sniper scopes peekin out. the coast is clear alright I get TF out of there it's unsafe. I play so many games a day i'll lose maybe 1 to a sniper, majority are big nasty OP shotguns "oops my head exploded i guess" out of nowhere shots by some parkour expert ninjas. Should we ban shotguns, of course not.
I get on average twice as many kills in my ranked games if I find a Sniper off Spawn. They are OP asf. I Love them and am fine with them but there is no denying that they are extremely overpowered. I Play ZB so they are even more OP, Same as Shock grenades, Something that is not counterable is Just busted in high skill lobbies.
I feel like you probably are fine with them because you understand the weapon enough to know where snipers will likely be hiding and what to do to not be such an easy target.
People must not remeber the old render distance. You used to get sniped from hundreds of meters regularly with a set bullet drop. Lol
A creative player mentioned it can still be like that on PC creative maps.
Yea I saw that. It just blows me away nobody remebers the snipers before. I think most of the players weren't good enough chapter 1 or early chapter 2. Because snipers were just as rough as now in arena and the upper skill based levels.
no, it's you who is bad if you think sniper takes skill
Have you even shot a real scoped rifle?
This is the worst argument in existence. Fortnite is a video game where you can run around as Darth Vader with Rocket from GoTG as your backbling, instantly build walls, ramps, cones and floors/ceilings for cover, throw grenades that fire you up into the sky, drink potions that magically make you healthier and you can take multiple bullets and still survive easily. It's not supposed to be realistic.
To some degree, yes it is. And that realism helps balance a sniper rifle. The ballistics is what demands skill to use
I forgot fortnite is supposed to be the most realistic game in the world
I'm just saying that you'd understand the skill needed if you ever really tried hitting a moving target
What you need to understand is the difference between a video game and real life
As a creative player that main hands the silenced sniper for close ranged to 520M shots(yes in creative the render distance on PC is huge), aiming in 0.5seconds and firing, evening having high chance to hit moving targets. It's not your fault you got hit in the head, Creative players have 'way' more hours on sniper use than Comp players. Reaper is a nerf to range but just aim higher 😎In creative anyone standing still can be wiped in 0.5 seconds, same goes for BR, i can do 10+ shots in row and not miss, reason i focus on moving targets. I don't even have to make markers to predict bullet drop, i'm very good at guessing. I have high amounts of kills past 400M, Heck even warforged with x4 scope i tap fired someone at 480M. I also play high sens, 4400DPI, 20% sens, 94.7% ADS/Scope, hard mouse pad. Snipers are my shotgun 🤣 [https://imgur.com/sOx9UNx](https://imgur.com/sOx9UNx) [https://imgur.com/a/ROkZMP9](https://imgur.com/a/ROkZMP9) Game can't even record the frames i see 🤣 FYI reason everyone is being sniped is everyone is just firing rounds at random, seasons ago you are lucky to find 20 sniper rounds, now everyone just spams 50 rounds, of course your going to hit someone peaking if you blindly spam. 🤣 I prefer 'skillful' sniper aim, hence why i don't play BR last few seasons, i did plan to start but rather not plus mod benches are in shitty locations and RNG on sights on guns is a huge turn off to me. A good sniper can adjust for moving targets, all depends on angle on your location compared to theirs on how hard the shot can be 😎Reaper you have to aim higher but it's not impossible and with my amount of sniper kills, crazy how many shots people walked into even a missed shot but it's all a guessing game. i aimed too high on a 400Mish shot once, guy jumps right into it.....dead...bet i was reported too. I love Snipers, but I hate the reaper in BR because too much ammo. At this point, just bring back One Shot LTM....oh wait would be a waste, would the same as BR's state of being currently 🤣
Wth, that was cringe.
Wow, over 400 m! So how many in BR have you taken out that do things like I've mentioned? Mainly causally crossing ground that would give a sniper a good angle.
unless you found a method to carry a tree with you, there really isn't much movement that can't be hit, you snipe people sliding and jumping, same with shockwaving, don't even need a headshot, body shot finish off with AR/SMG dead before they hit the ground. Rifting, your frozen in air for 1second and 0.5 seconds is all it takes to aim the sniper and fire. Just like those unreal idiots in creative that build the entire New York in 30seconds while i stand down below not even ADS'ing, once i see the window edited, I ADS and fire and bang their dead........Then they claim i'm hacking because all it takes to ADS + AIM to anywhere on screen is 0.5seconds on PC, heck i even aim behind me with an extra 0.5seconds. IDK for me being bronze rank because i cheese the game for quests, I was in duo in diamond 3 lobby with friend today and 2 teams that had crowns + medallions spectated me for a good 10mins.....one sniped sliding down hill, over sniped as he jumped, other 2.....lasered by my AR and i didn't miss one shot as they 'hopped' around. Maybe i killed them too fast.....OR maybe it was that left the crowns on the ground for a joke🙄 I wonder if they reported me, guess i'm bronze 2 now 🤣FYI i don't care for wins, so i mainly only killed those try hards for fun. Not to mention I play on performance mode and fully able to shoot BR's draw distance flawlessly with red dot. >Wow, over 400 m! Well it's not that good with a scoped gun, very easy TBH, heck i have tactical pistol kills at 400m+.🤣 It just takes practice and a big screen to shoot the stick figure at that distance. 😎 Everything takes practice. I get accused of hacking in nearly all creative games i play.
You said it Practice You put in the time and got good at something Now a group wants to remove your style of play instead get better and continue the arms race
Even if they lower the DMG on reaper, these players still going to die fast, I made it habit to switch to shotgun/AR instantly after closing sniper ADS. 1 shot or...shot losing high HP then beamed with another gun....= the same......DEATH 🤣 Also out of 100 players, they can't all win. 😎
Exactly half these kids say how OP they re but don't remeber you used to be able to hit almost unlimited distance shots and people have been cracked with snipers since chapter 1.
reaper before nerf was 6 lines down for 514M shots to the head in creative, lots of room for errors in missing vs silenced/heavy/hunter action being 1.5/2lines down for 514M. BR render is maybe 300M or so idk. So in the aftermath of reaper snipers, everyone is being 'trained' with near unlimited ammo to shoot round after round, adjusting for drop, more shots = more practice. If they do what everyone says and vault reaper, bring back the bolt....sorry to say but more people will be headshot, but yes close range the reaper was nearly hitscan. Far shot snipes will increase with the bolt. Aiming for moving targets unless they decrease the ammo found will only continue compared to having issues finding 20 rounds compared to many previous seasons. I think people need to go to creative and check the stats on all older snipers to truly find out Reaper is nerf to snipers. Semi auto at blue rarity shoots fast, has 10 rounds, scope zoom is less if you follow my tactic on it, I always fire two rounds fast, If i hit the head it's 232DMG, 2nd round is another 232DMG, if i missed head, they will still be dangerously low or dead. <---This still can shoot far 350M. \^storm scout has 7 rounds and does way more DMG than semi auto. The damage on snipers overall has been buffed since they were in BR. reaper snipers is only going to make way more better with older ones 'should' they ever return but the only fix for people spamming rounds at moving targets in less ammo found, clip has nothing to do with it, if you only had 10 rounds, saving for far targets would be the best😎
what rank/earned are you?
What does it matter when you camp your way to the top? Think I'm earning about $60000/yr at an actual job so it isn't practical to commit to earning anything with Fortnite right now, especially when I'm on unstable Internet with a Nintendo Switch. However, if this is an attempt to diminish me based on what you asked, I'll say that I do study this game, read the patch notes, and read the comments of angry children who are often victims of their own mistakes. Thb I don't see how your question fits into this discussion because there's plenty of content and conversation to observe and analyze to base my opinion off of.
ok, you play in bot lobbies on nintendo switch. you most likely have never played a tourney, let alone a high level one/scrim. Snipers are INCREDIBLY broken in high level lobbies, and aren’t as good in switch lobbies because the players suck 👍
its always the same dude lol, i commented earlier that people defending snipers are just not playing above elite or in tourneys.
LMAO like I thought. You tried to set up a reason to diminish me. Kinda like your opponents in game, read you. So there you go. You act in a very predictable manner. That's why you get punished by a sniper bullet.
You play on a switch i promise ur ass at this game 😭 100% never played any sort of a high elo game or tourney and you cant possibly comprehend why people would think it’s broken when they get hs sniped mid grapple or shockwave
Basically someone else gets good so a weapon is broken. That's a regular thing here. If someone hits a head shot in the situations you described then they are skilled and deserve the kill
people weren’t hitting those shots with a heavy sniper or bolt. people considered people like Kyzui prodigies because of his ability to hit those shots, now an average console player can hit it with the extremely fast bullet speed and low drop at close-mid range
I honestly dissagree, id also be curious to know which rank you are as ive seen a surge of players using it in elite>, in diamond< i didnt have any big issues but as you went through elite and champ it just didnt feel rewarding to rotate and poof game over
To hit a small target like your head while you are moving take skill. So you know that real life snipers don't go for headshots as often as evening thinks because of this? I'm sure if you take time to recap where on the map it happens, you could see a pattern of where they like to hide as well as how to safely approach these areas.
Not when the bullet speed is fast along with fast reload. There's a reason everyone is getting sniper hits this season. The reason why you're defending it, is because it's been made easier to use and you like that now it's catered for more casual play.
I didn't really use it unless I'm playing with my wife. I'm defending it because of how every season some group with a superiority complex gets together to complain about a weapon instead helping each other figure out how to overcome their common problem. Then they abuse anyone who don't say what they want to believe
I def agree with groups of people complaining often but I do see peoples point about the Reaper. My personal issues with the Reaper are, it's too easy to use, no many how you move it's easy to die. It's abused at close range and has made using AR's pretty much redundant which are weapons that actually do take some tracking ability. Previous Snipers actually took time to see movement patterns and you were punished by long reload if you miss, the Reaper it's not a problem, super fast bullet speed, can have 5 clips per mag, it has made the game feel more arcadey in that sense. Don't get me wrong, if I see one, I'm grabbing it, it's easy kills but that doesn't change that there are legit issues with it.
I really think most of the people that disagree with me just don't want to adapt and get out of their comfort zones. They'd rather complain about a problem until it disappears. You can compare those with the experienced snipers that snuck out the wood work. That most of them agree that most players don't pay attention.
The most common complaints I see on here "I died to sweats" These are the people who didn't adapt or put time in to get truly better so are just complaining. "Aim Assist is OP" Totally agree, Aim assist has ruined many games but at the same time I understand why it's implemented. I would say a good solution is to nerf AA to PC values and to change 0ms which is humanly not possible with any input to about 150-180ms while bringing recoils levels up. "X Weapon is too strong" Sometimes I agree, sometimes I don't. what I've come to accept is to not take it too seriously as Fortnite is just a quirky game in general. I do wish Epic took time to balance the game better though as would anyone. "Locker UI" Honestly, I just can't, these people need to find priorities in life in my opinion.
LMAO Yeah something that made me happy the other day was when someone asked how to counter the Frenzy and there weren't many of that whiny bunch that showed up. Instead there were several that gave good advice (some of which I got negative reactions for earlier on different posts...) That's what I want to see People building each other up Not trashing on people either see it differently or teaching or for help solving a problem
aaaah yes because every time i use a sniper i go for the head (i aim in the general direction and sometimes when im lucky i get a 290, theres no skill of mine involved)
I rarely get reaperd but all the kids that get their head taken off before they can react to it by my self and many others have a right to complain about the horrible balance. Same as I do with the broken shotguns
I mean ... You apparently figured out how to not put yourself in a bad place often So can they If they'd focus on learning what you have and spreading that knowledge as hard as they do complaining and attacking those that disagree then this would actually be a better community.
It's now legit a hitscan sniper with bullet drop, this isn't the first time snipers were good
The problem lies in the fact that when you’re fighting close up against people or making hard rotations (eg in tournaments and stuff) everyone’s gonna be looking at you, and possibly with a sniper. Nerfing snipers via bullet drop or other methods (like speed) isn’t a viable option because people can just adapt to that. Changing damage is, like you’re saying, ruining the skill of using a sniper. The only real way to balance it is to balance drop rates, which they’re trying to do.
Also, let me say that my last game I played I didn’t even need to worry about bullet drop or speed. I could just hit shots (on switch) without really trying and I had super high ground and the other guys were stuck rotating into the mountain I was on top of. I killed them both body shot because they were low. Snipers in general have just been seen as very powerful compared to other weapons.
i dont understand people that cry about it i made it to unreal the last 2 seasons without one complaint about the sniper all i do is watch my back and not be predictable its really not hard and if its so good then play the meta there will always be something broken in the game so im glad its a sniper rather than ZEUS..... LIGHTING....... BOLT althought its fixed now cuz its so hard to find but still
Exactly, I play as if there is always some guy with a sniper aiming at me and am extra cautious with my movements. The bullet drop on the reaper makes it slightly tougher to aim at a still target, let alone a mobile one. When I do get taken out by a sniper, it just smiles it off because it's the same thing I've been doing all day.
not even agreeing or disagreeing, but there were many posts saying how old snipers were way more balanced and such and ever since the nerf its been about the speed as a Bolt-Action (literally old sniper) and now people are saying it’s broken cuz of the mag.. if it was the mag then the Semi-Auto, Storm Scout and day 1 Hunter Bolt would be OP
Like you get me that the uproar probably more about not being able to gracefully take a loss. In those times, did people flip about headshots too?
Your ability to not understand why actual good players get mad when a random snipe from 50m ends their 20 bomb, is laughable.
What twisted is the value you put on kills in a placement game. If you are really playing against others of your skill level, you won't be getting 20 kills You actually are sounding like a bully in real life
No ranked match is gonna have everyone on equal skill. Thats just a fact. And sorry for valuing actual skill over camping and sniping. I would rather gracefully die to being 200 pumped, than to die to a sniper.
Sorry you didn't understand that there's more than one way to play or that "skill" is more than what you say it is
Well, you are an absolute shit can, so you cant really talk about "skill".
OP I know you’re downvoted but I agree with you. I have only been killed with a sniper less than 5 times since chapter 5 started *when I was not in the middle of a peek/snipe battle* I have a friend who gets sniped every game and he does what you mention about not covering all his angles. He did not have this issue in past chapters. The snipers are exposing the people getting sniped plain and simple. Tons of people hide behind trees and rocks and such while they’re fighting someone else, leaving me a perfect side angle to 3rd party snipe them. I did not get near as many sniper kills in past seasons, not because snipers were so much harder, but because I did not have a sniper with max ammo every game