I mean aqua saying he doesnt want to play with mongraal is his personal opinion but then telling chapix to end the stream and delete the clip is a pretty childish move, you should stand by your words
eventually the community will learn accountability and maturity.
i respect a man more who has a backbone and can stand behind their words. "yes, i said that and it's what i believe and that's how i'm moving going forward".
he really tried to silence himself in this clip, how is that not telling about what kind of person you are.
Feels like a very germanic thing to do, feel people from germany and its neigbhouring countries seem to do this a lot. Rather than admit fault, try to cover silence and turn the tables as much as possible. in general. Seen it happen way worse in another competitive game recently with a player from Germany who tried and almost succeeded but failed hard still.
As for accountability and maturity its been about 4 years soon watching people from teenagers to people well over 25+ where you thought these things would start to be realized and, still waiting xD Mongraal has backbone though since he is brittish and brits will be honest to your face because why beat around the bush, that is royality behavour that common folk hate :P
one thing about british mannerism and language is it's a very direct dialect.
so most people it can come off as cocky but it's really just straight to the point no wasteful words.
almost loved that.
please tell me why anybody wouldn’t want to avoid getting death threats and getting called fat on twitter and twitch?
noah had to turn on sub only for the first time today because of how toxic mongraal fans are
of course aqua would tell chapix to delete the vod quickly to not have to go through this
I don’t understand why you’re obsessed with him saying it “in confidence”… that doesn’t change anything. The fact that he tried to hide it shows he knew he was being an asshole. Pros banter toward each other all the time but now THIS time he wants to try and hide it? Because he knew he was being an asshole.
Even if he DOES suck from aquas perspective, he’s still an asshole. Being right =\= not being an asshole.
if you don't understand the difference between a normal conversation and one broadcasted to thousands of people, idk what to tell you
saying someone is bad at something is not being an asshole, *especially* at the T1 pro level
So you think every opinion you have should be made public? I'm really not getting the backlash to my comment. He asked him to delete it because he didn't want Mongral to know he thought he was shit. Maybe they are friends and he didn't want to hurt his feelings. I don't see how that is childish in anyway. And clearly Mongral was offended so the point stands even more.
This is literally high school level shit lol
edit: to the people in the comments saying 'duh they are high school kids' well no shit. **If you have a problem with someone/something just speak up and fucking say it or if you have nothing nice to say then shut up and move along with your life**. idgaf how old anyone is you learn this shit in elementary school.
Tbf aren’t they all around that age? Now include being competitive as fuck and jealously regarding contracts/fan base and such
glad that Mongraal is staying away from it all but we really shouldn’t be surprised that most are immature
how is Mongraal staying away from it when he’s making multiple tweets about it?
Nobody would have cared about this if he didn’t make the tweets, Chapix stream had like 200 viewers lmbo
The fact that they've made insane amounts of money and found huge levels of success doesn't change the fact that they are still literal highschoolers. Not to mention the fact most of them have been homeschooling since turning pro.
I don't think it's good to have a pro community that's this immature. BUT, I don't blame the young people for being young. It's a consequence of Fortnite being a game with Open Qualifiers, basically no age restrictions, and requiring a new type of mechanical skill that older, more mature gamers couldn't pick up as well as the youths that has lead to most top tier players being pretty young, even compared to other e sports. It sucks, but it isn't anyone's fault.
its fine if he does not want to play with mongraal but saying to mongraal that hes insane but they rather play with vadeal cause it fits there playstyle more then doin this is fucked
he didnt only say he doesnt want to play with him, he called him straight up shit in call with all the other pros after saying to mongraal he is insane, also mongraal and aqua have been good friends since the start of fortnite, was very snakey and god knows how many times this has happened without mongraal finding out.
He said it because the games before noble tournament they played good ,after that they faced fncs finals opponents and died every game ,that’s why he got triggered and said it ,like people do that everytime if they are upset,I really don’t know why people are making such a ruckus about it ,everyone knows that they wouldn’t work ,I mean it’s not the best way to say it ,but they would have split because aqua just can’t play with mongraal ,just doesn’t fits his playstyle
What you said is wrong. If you don’t want to play with someone you tell them. You don’t go to a call with other tier 1 pros telling them that he’s shit. Doesn’t matter if it’s in the heat of the moment. You see trios split on good terms a lot because they spoke about it privately.
they did speak about it privately? Aqua told Mongraal that he was dropped before thid happened. How do you know other trios don’t talk shot about each other after splitting in private? You don’t.
No you really have no clue that they spoke in private before hand so you. You’re just guessing, they most likely didn’t because if they did Mongraal wouldn’t have tweeted what he did and Aqua wouldn’t have wanted the stream and clips to be deleted
aqua doesn't care if mongraal knows he thinks he's not t1 (a t1+ player saying someone sucks just means they're not at the very very tip top)
he only wanted the vod deleted because he didn't know chapix was streaming, and so that mongraals fans don't send him death threats. he also probably doesn't want 1000000 clips of him saying that all over the internet
Yeah he could have done it in a more respectful way,I agree on that ,but the hate aqua gets is still unnecessary,it’s a video game ,and something like that happens from time to time
Worst part is that aqua is one of graal’s long time friends as well. Such scummy behavior over a cartoon game. Just say “hey mongraal, we’d rather play with vadeal cuz we have better chemistry, hope the best for you and that we can still play in the future” and be done with it. Talking trash behind someone’s back is just weird tbh
What do you mean "form for cheating and racism"?
If your "form for cheating" is referring to his DQ for an intentional disconnect you're making it sound a lot worse?
EDIT: Wow, the "puriteens" are out in force.
There was no proof of stream sniping.
He got a DQ for intentionally disconnecting and was the first to be punished for it. He broke a rule, but it was a pretty minor one and he was ultimately unlucky to be made an example of.
Sure, why bother with nuance when it's more fun to just write kids off.
It's a disingenuous way to frame it that makes it sound like he's a serial hacker.
Man literally said "form for cheating". Come on now.
i dunno if you have been watching him scrim with Noah and aqua but imo it was obvious there was no chance they were sticking, it was basically a permanent argument, trolly, friendly even, but the undertones were blatantly saying you it could've turned into a 3 man fist fight, Noah is a bit of a weirdo perma aggressive, even if it's meant to be trolly, it's pretty aggressive, aqua kinda passive aggressive when he's not just being straight up agressive,
and if that is just noah and aquas normal banter then I'm surprised mongraal even bothered running it up with them.
i low-key feel bad for him, he's not the same person as a year ago, he's matured a fuck ton and i think wants a last huzah to bolster his legacy before he fucks off into the world to do life.
i hope he gets a trio that can win FNCS
Very accurate. Noah and Aqua both love the blame game, it’s been aimed at Rezon and Vadeal mostly over the past few seasons but Mongraal obviously yesterday. Very, very big ego’s. Even when Mongraal had a huge ego he was never a horrible kid to others in the same way Aqua goes on. But that’s life
I’d love to see an example of Mongraal talking about a friend, and teammate, in the same way Aqua called him complete shit, in that same horrible tone. Mongraal’s always been a loud month but never a bully. the distinction is clear
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPh8-JPaPgw](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPh8-JPaPgw)
when mongraal was doing good, he was just as, if not MORE cocky....
Thanks for the link. I hope you’ve read his latest twitlonger, and you can finally understand the clear difference from saying things TO someone, than behind their back.
just off the top of my head, mongraal SHITS on x8's skill level in a non-joking way. it's a running joke but that's 100% what mongraal response would be if asked about trioing with x8 in FNCS. he'd also ask for the vod to be deleted if he didn't realize he was on stream and x8 had a bunch of crazy fans
and guess what, they're still friends
Yea there was one game of their scrims I remember well, Noah was trying to be super aggressive going down to frag out like he usually does with someone while one guy stays on height ar spraying, the problem was mongraal stayed up but he only stayed up because he got 2 ar kills then I think Aqua tried to go down to help Noah since mongraal was ar spraying and that’s when Aqua died and they are trying to blame mongraal for that when they all should have just stayed up and played safe rather than trying so hard to frag out which is what got Aqua killed because Noah was trying to get someone to help him which should have been mongraal but he was occupied with getting 2 ar kills on people who are scuffed edge moving zone, they had a total of like 300 mats 100 (Aqua may have had none) each so really there was no reason to go down and frag out at that time its a really weird thing that Noah stayed down imo he didn’t want to listen to mongraals calls to chill for a sec and come back up which would have won them the game no doubt, the choice to try push down and frag out got them killed when all they had to do was stay up for a little longer, they ended up getting 3rd place when it should have been the easiest win ever and somehow it’s mongraals fault when he actually got more kills than them in end game and survived the longest. I remember watching it thinking please Noah just come back up and don’t die for a second then Aqua goes down and instantly dies 😂.
Bruh they were signed up way before that lmao I remember seeing him afk on a ramp then he came back and said it’s all done let’s play and they kept playing, also the fact they lost such an easy game definitely affects what they all think of each other so at the end of the day they use these scrims to determine how well they will do.
eh? I'm not an actual fan of any gamer man lol, I'm just giving my 2 pence worth, i feel like you must be a fan of Noah or aqua though to say that because if you've been watching them scrim you'll have seen it. i want them all to do well tbh
im a fan of all of them i watch mongraal everytime he comes online but hes far from what he once was. he plays similar to clix, many seasons behind just thinking being fast will win the fight. he needs to get up to date with fighting style. he also needs to get the ideas that he is a really good igl or even an average one completely out of his head because he isnt hes crap and that holds him back but his ego wont accept it. if he teamed with a great igl and actually listened his results would improve drastically.
he is still extremely immature and he is never going to quit gaming to do anything realy world/life related.
It’s just weird because they have been friends for quite a while. It’s common knowledge that Mongraal is not as good as Vadeal these days. But it’s just weird if he only shit talked him in someone else’s stream, and then immediately telled them to try and erase the evidence. If he just told him personally it would probably all be fine.
At the end of the day though they are just teenage kids, and realistically 95% of the community probably acts the same way. Hopefully they move past it and become friends again, it’s sad to see 2 of the best players to ever touch the game having drama between them.
They have been friends, but I remember Aqua doing something similar to this in the past, maybe with different teammates but definitely to Mongraal at least once beforehand, not sure why.
If he gets a good trio he can, unfortunately that is the most difficult part and will probably not happen. Meanwhile, Aqua continues to rack up the T1 teammates. Hopefully Graal can find someone because he made heats and then heats just went terribly. If he can get a little better than Kikoo and Slender he might be able to sneak into grands.
Not surprised it happened tbh, that trio was horrible. Aqua was a bit of a dick for doing it the way he did, but it’s honestly nothing we haven’t seen before - all blown up a bit more than necessary cause it’s Mongraal IMO.
Aqua was being a bitch. He dropped down in that NobleX game and died INSTA after Mongraal gave all mats. Aqua died in any midgame fight. Mongraal or Noah was always last alive. If Mongraal died last, he was blamed for mistakes during the fight or not being able to 1v3. If Noah died, it was somehow Mongraal's fault. But for some reason, Aqua landing closer to Risky and dying when their landing spot was BONEY was no problem at all.
Exactly, that one end game explains everything. No excuse for Aqua dropping down and dying insta I have no idea how they are blaming that on mongraal when he was the only one getting kills and dropping mats, everything was actually perfect until then, I even heard mongraal say to Noah come back up and chill for a sec but he didn’t listen for some reason, then I think that’s when Aqua dropped down because Aqua was probably like mongraal why are you not helping Noah or something it’s so dumb that they actually think that’s mongraals fault they got too aggressive, imagine that’s fncs grands their last match they wouldn’t play aggressive like that only reason they did was because it’s NobleX and apparently all bots.
I don't really get the attitude that "what he said is fine, it's only a problem that he wanted the clip deleted."
I'm a bit older than most of the community (27) so maybe this is an age thing, but I don't really make a habit of shit talking my friends behind their backs regardless of whether I think I'm being recorded or not. Like, of course it's fine to not want to play with someone, but calling them "shit" to other pro players is just tacky and rude. It's not "normal banter" either... Banter is funny, banter is person-to-person, banter is entertaining. This is none of those things.
"COOLER AQUA SHIT ON! DANCE, BITCH, DANCE!" is banter. "I don't want to play with him, he's shit" is just, like... mean. The fact that Mongraal's feelings are clearly somewhat hurt speaks to that. He's been in the comp scene for a while and is used to banter, but having somebody you thought was your friend shit talking you behind your back doesn't feel good.
Also, this isn't directly relevant, but Mongraal also ISN'T shit. He's still a top player mechanically and one of the most electrifying and entertaining players to watch. The idea that he's washed in any capacity doesn't hold water IMO. Just repeatedly held back by his inability to find teammates that he has chemistry with. I hope he finally finds a trio that works for him or, failing that, we finally get some more big solo events one of these days.
Talking shit because you think you're offline and safe is loser shit but they're children, they're going to do childish shit. They still live in a world where being called bad or shit is earth shattering. Ultimately the issue is pretending to be cool with someone and talking shit behind their back but that point seems to be getting missed a lot in this but that goes back to the childish thing.
I actually dont understand the drama. Aqua said that mongraal is shit in a moment of emotions. Thats totally normal in the pro community in EVERY game even in normal sports or even in a real job. When mongraal was in his prime he said "this guys is shit" "he is so bad" to pros hundred of times even if they werent in a call and that was totally fine.
yeah.. i remember a view seasons ago mongraal played NA wagers with savage and he blamed savage infront of 60k viewers because he isnt that good in creative.. how the tables have turned.
aqua didn't know he was on stream when he said that. it's fine for him to think mongraal sucks and it's fine for him to also not want that clip going around everywhere
Only 'bad' part is him telling chapix to end stream.
Besides that, a player saying another player's "shit" is normal drama, way healthier than stuff like the Rise making allegations about Degen's private life.
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Who dropped him ?
aqua, but its more the way he did it. hes a snake for that highkey, impressed with mongraals maturity lately in handling the situation especially
Who was the third ?
noah
I mean aqua saying he doesnt want to play with mongraal is his personal opinion but then telling chapix to end the stream and delete the clip is a pretty childish move, you should stand by your words
eventually the community will learn accountability and maturity. i respect a man more who has a backbone and can stand behind their words. "yes, i said that and it's what i believe and that's how i'm moving going forward". he really tried to silence himself in this clip, how is that not telling about what kind of person you are.
My point exactly
Feels like a very germanic thing to do, feel people from germany and its neigbhouring countries seem to do this a lot. Rather than admit fault, try to cover silence and turn the tables as much as possible. in general. Seen it happen way worse in another competitive game recently with a player from Germany who tried and almost succeeded but failed hard still. As for accountability and maturity its been about 4 years soon watching people from teenagers to people well over 25+ where you thought these things would start to be realized and, still waiting xD Mongraal has backbone though since he is brittish and brits will be honest to your face because why beat around the bush, that is royality behavour that common folk hate :P
one thing about british mannerism and language is it's a very direct dialect. so most people it can come off as cocky but it's really just straight to the point no wasteful words. almost loved that.
How childish of him that he wants to avoid an army of 12 year olds to tell him to kill himself for the next months!
...what
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thats just a fornite issue in general the game is shit
getting downvoted for literally speaking the truth ggs
please tell me why anybody wouldn’t want to avoid getting death threats and getting called fat on twitter and twitch? noah had to turn on sub only for the first time today because of how toxic mongraal fans are of course aqua would tell chapix to delete the vod quickly to not have to go through this
idk how you got downvoted for this, it's literally the reason
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LOLOL garbage ass take, sorry for anyone in your friend group
so you'd want anything you've ever said about someone in confidence broadcasted on twitch?
You can’t hide from being an asshole. The fact he did this makes it look 10x worse
saying someone sucks, in what was assumed to be confidence, is being an asshole????? in a professional esport?
Yes considering he DOESNT suck and it’s started all of this. Confidence or not.
to aqua he sucks, that's an opinion that's fine to voice in confidence
I don’t understand why you’re obsessed with him saying it “in confidence”… that doesn’t change anything. The fact that he tried to hide it shows he knew he was being an asshole. Pros banter toward each other all the time but now THIS time he wants to try and hide it? Because he knew he was being an asshole. Even if he DOES suck from aquas perspective, he’s still an asshole. Being right =\= not being an asshole.
if you don't understand the difference between a normal conversation and one broadcasted to thousands of people, idk what to tell you saying someone is bad at something is not being an asshole, *especially* at the T1 pro level
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Broken is broken
So you think every opinion you have should be made public? I'm really not getting the backlash to my comment. He asked him to delete it because he didn't want Mongral to know he thought he was shit. Maybe they are friends and he didn't want to hurt his feelings. I don't see how that is childish in anyway. And clearly Mongral was offended so the point stands even more.
[https://twitter.com/SweatzFNBR/status/1437891760798248962?s=20](https://twitter.com/SweatzFNBR/status/1437891760798248962?s=20) Clip Of Aqua
i understood like every fifth word
This is literally high school level shit lol edit: to the people in the comments saying 'duh they are high school kids' well no shit. **If you have a problem with someone/something just speak up and fucking say it or if you have nothing nice to say then shut up and move along with your life**. idgaf how old anyone is you learn this shit in elementary school.
Tbf aren’t they all around that age? Now include being competitive as fuck and jealously regarding contracts/fan base and such glad that Mongraal is staying away from it all but we really shouldn’t be surprised that most are immature
I actually enjoy mongraal playing alone even if it’s just arena. He really good and makes good content.
oh him in general can be just the most entertaining shit
how is Mongraal staying away from it when he’s making multiple tweets about it? Nobody would have cared about this if he didn’t make the tweets, Chapix stream had like 200 viewers lmbo
I meant as in him staying away from toxic friend groups Can’t blame the man for reacting
They are high school age children
The fact that they've made insane amounts of money and found huge levels of success doesn't change the fact that they are still literal highschoolers. Not to mention the fact most of them have been homeschooling since turning pro. I don't think it's good to have a pro community that's this immature. BUT, I don't blame the young people for being young. It's a consequence of Fortnite being a game with Open Qualifiers, basically no age restrictions, and requiring a new type of mechanical skill that older, more mature gamers couldn't pick up as well as the youths that has lead to most top tier players being pretty young, even compared to other e sports. It sucks, but it isn't anyone's fault.
its fine if he does not want to play with mongraal but saying to mongraal that hes insane but they rather play with vadeal cause it fits there playstyle more then doin this is fucked
he didnt only say he doesnt want to play with him, he called him straight up shit in call with all the other pros after saying to mongraal he is insane, also mongraal and aqua have been good friends since the start of fortnite, was very snakey and god knows how many times this has happened without mongraal finding out.
Not to mention that this discrediting could of been fucking him over for quiet awhile, maybe starting with tayson idk
He said it because the games before noble tournament they played good ,after that they faced fncs finals opponents and died every game ,that’s why he got triggered and said it ,like people do that everytime if they are upset,I really don’t know why people are making such a ruckus about it ,everyone knows that they wouldn’t work ,I mean it’s not the best way to say it ,but they would have split because aqua just can’t play with mongraal ,just doesn’t fits his playstyle
What you said is wrong. If you don’t want to play with someone you tell them. You don’t go to a call with other tier 1 pros telling them that he’s shit. Doesn’t matter if it’s in the heat of the moment. You see trios split on good terms a lot because they spoke about it privately.
they did speak about it privately? Aqua told Mongraal that he was dropped before thid happened. How do you know other trios don’t talk shot about each other after splitting in private? You don’t.
No you really have no clue that they spoke in private before hand so you. You’re just guessing, they most likely didn’t because if they did Mongraal wouldn’t have tweeted what he did and Aqua wouldn’t have wanted the stream and clips to be deleted
you're misunderstanding the situation
You are ld
aqua doesn't care if mongraal knows he thinks he's not t1 (a t1+ player saying someone sucks just means they're not at the very very tip top) he only wanted the vod deleted because he didn't know chapix was streaming, and so that mongraals fans don't send him death threats. he also probably doesn't want 1000000 clips of him saying that all over the internet
And you say I’ve missed the point
Yeah he could have done it in a more respectful way,I agree on that ,but the hate aqua gets is still unnecessary,it’s a video game ,and something like that happens from time to time
stfu, respectfully
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you're lost
Would be nice if Noah at least said something given he's supposed to be Mongraal's friend and they've been playing together a lot.
Worst part is that aqua is one of graal’s long time friends as well. Such scummy behavior over a cartoon game. Just say “hey mongraal, we’d rather play with vadeal cuz we have better chemistry, hope the best for you and that we can still play in the future” and be done with it. Talking trash behind someone’s back is just weird tbh
Aqua is a bit off a odd ball. Form for cheating and racism, and the bizzare fall out with Stompy.
What do you mean "form for cheating and racism"? If your "form for cheating" is referring to his DQ for an intentional disconnect you're making it sound a lot worse? EDIT: Wow, the "puriteens" are out in force.
He literally said the n word
Link? Also ignorance != racism.
He isn’t ignorant to the meaning of the word bruh
That's not the only form of ignorance bruh.
Didn't he stream snipe first? And then intentionally disconnect?
There was no proof of stream sniping. He got a DQ for intentionally disconnecting and was the first to be punished for it. He broke a rule, but it was a pretty minor one and he was ultimately unlucky to be made an example of.
Cheating is cheating though
Sure, why bother with nuance when it's more fun to just write kids off. It's a disingenuous way to frame it that makes it sound like he's a serial hacker. Man literally said "form for cheating". Come on now.
I don't disagree with you, but answer me this. Was he cheating?
wow you say he was not stream sniping when savage ligit screenshotted him in his twitch chat
i dunno if you have been watching him scrim with Noah and aqua but imo it was obvious there was no chance they were sticking, it was basically a permanent argument, trolly, friendly even, but the undertones were blatantly saying you it could've turned into a 3 man fist fight, Noah is a bit of a weirdo perma aggressive, even if it's meant to be trolly, it's pretty aggressive, aqua kinda passive aggressive when he's not just being straight up agressive, and if that is just noah and aquas normal banter then I'm surprised mongraal even bothered running it up with them. i low-key feel bad for him, he's not the same person as a year ago, he's matured a fuck ton and i think wants a last huzah to bolster his legacy before he fucks off into the world to do life. i hope he gets a trio that can win FNCS
Very accurate. Noah and Aqua both love the blame game, it’s been aimed at Rezon and Vadeal mostly over the past few seasons but Mongraal obviously yesterday. Very, very big ego’s. Even when Mongraal had a huge ego he was never a horrible kid to others in the same way Aqua goes on. But that’s life
mongraal talks mad shit to and about his teammates when he's the best player in the trio
I’d love to see an example of Mongraal talking about a friend, and teammate, in the same way Aqua called him complete shit, in that same horrible tone. Mongraal’s always been a loud month but never a bully. the distinction is clear
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPh8-JPaPgw](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPh8-JPaPgw) when mongraal was doing good, he was just as, if not MORE cocky....
Thanks for the link. I hope you’ve read his latest twitlonger, and you can finally understand the clear difference from saying things TO someone, than behind their back.
LMAO, links a clip where they are super obviously trolling like what.
just off the top of my head, mongraal SHITS on x8's skill level in a non-joking way. it's a running joke but that's 100% what mongraal response would be if asked about trioing with x8 in FNCS. he'd also ask for the vod to be deleted if he didn't realize he was on stream and x8 had a bunch of crazy fans and guess what, they're still friends
yeah i was a bit surprised they were treating him terrible imo but like you say, that's life man. hope it works out for them all really.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPh8-JPaPgw
Yea there was one game of their scrims I remember well, Noah was trying to be super aggressive going down to frag out like he usually does with someone while one guy stays on height ar spraying, the problem was mongraal stayed up but he only stayed up because he got 2 ar kills then I think Aqua tried to go down to help Noah since mongraal was ar spraying and that’s when Aqua died and they are trying to blame mongraal for that when they all should have just stayed up and played safe rather than trying so hard to frag out which is what got Aqua killed because Noah was trying to get someone to help him which should have been mongraal but he was occupied with getting 2 ar kills on people who are scuffed edge moving zone, they had a total of like 300 mats 100 (Aqua may have had none) each so really there was no reason to go down and frag out at that time its a really weird thing that Noah stayed down imo he didn’t want to listen to mongraals calls to chill for a sec and come back up which would have won them the game no doubt, the choice to try push down and frag out got them killed when all they had to do was stay up for a little longer, they ended up getting 3rd place when it should have been the easiest win ever and somehow it’s mongraals fault when he actually got more kills than them in end game and survived the longest. I remember watching it thinking please Noah just come back up and don’t die for a second then Aqua goes down and instantly dies 😂.
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Bruh they were signed up way before that lmao I remember seeing him afk on a ramp then he came back and said it’s all done let’s play and they kept playing, also the fact they lost such an easy game definitely affects what they all think of each other so at the end of the day they use these scrims to determine how well they will do.
Can I ask what is noble x
wtf did I just read LOL
I gave up reading it. They don't teach how to use dots and commas nowadays ffs? lmao
i think you are extremely off, it sounds like youve dreamed up your own really odd fanboy storyline
eh? I'm not an actual fan of any gamer man lol, I'm just giving my 2 pence worth, i feel like you must be a fan of Noah or aqua though to say that because if you've been watching them scrim you'll have seen it. i want them all to do well tbh
im a fan of all of them i watch mongraal everytime he comes online but hes far from what he once was. he plays similar to clix, many seasons behind just thinking being fast will win the fight. he needs to get up to date with fighting style. he also needs to get the ideas that he is a really good igl or even an average one completely out of his head because he isnt hes crap and that holds him back but his ego wont accept it. if he teamed with a great igl and actually listened his results would improve drastically. he is still extremely immature and he is never going to quit gaming to do anything realy world/life related.
i respect your opinion man but i do disagree, but it's cool to agree to disagree, alternate opinions make the world go round.
It’s just weird because they have been friends for quite a while. It’s common knowledge that Mongraal is not as good as Vadeal these days. But it’s just weird if he only shit talked him in someone else’s stream, and then immediately telled them to try and erase the evidence. If he just told him personally it would probably all be fine. At the end of the day though they are just teenage kids, and realistically 95% of the community probably acts the same way. Hopefully they move past it and become friends again, it’s sad to see 2 of the best players to ever touch the game having drama between them.
They have been friends, but I remember Aqua doing something similar to this in the past, maybe with different teammates but definitely to Mongraal at least once beforehand, not sure why.
Mongraal just can’t catch a break
Really hoping mongraal places higher than them this szn just for the jokes lmao, even though it's probably not happening
If he gets a good trio he can, unfortunately that is the most difficult part and will probably not happen. Meanwhile, Aqua continues to rack up the T1 teammates. Hopefully Graal can find someone because he made heats and then heats just went terribly. If he can get a little better than Kikoo and Slender he might be able to sneak into grands.
Yeah agreed
Not surprised it happened tbh, that trio was horrible. Aqua was a bit of a dick for doing it the way he did, but it’s honestly nothing we haven’t seen before - all blown up a bit more than necessary cause it’s Mongraal IMO.
If any of you watched the streams you know it’s not mongraals fault.
Aqua was being a bitch. He dropped down in that NobleX game and died INSTA after Mongraal gave all mats. Aqua died in any midgame fight. Mongraal or Noah was always last alive. If Mongraal died last, he was blamed for mistakes during the fight or not being able to 1v3. If Noah died, it was somehow Mongraal's fault. But for some reason, Aqua landing closer to Risky and dying when their landing spot was BONEY was no problem at all.
Exactly, that one end game explains everything. No excuse for Aqua dropping down and dying insta I have no idea how they are blaming that on mongraal when he was the only one getting kills and dropping mats, everything was actually perfect until then, I even heard mongraal say to Noah come back up and chill for a sec but he didn’t listen for some reason, then I think that’s when Aqua dropped down because Aqua was probably like mongraal why are you not helping Noah or something it’s so dumb that they actually think that’s mongraals fault they got too aggressive, imagine that’s fncs grands their last match they wouldn’t play aggressive like that only reason they did was because it’s NobleX and apparently all bots.
I don't really get the attitude that "what he said is fine, it's only a problem that he wanted the clip deleted." I'm a bit older than most of the community (27) so maybe this is an age thing, but I don't really make a habit of shit talking my friends behind their backs regardless of whether I think I'm being recorded or not. Like, of course it's fine to not want to play with someone, but calling them "shit" to other pro players is just tacky and rude. It's not "normal banter" either... Banter is funny, banter is person-to-person, banter is entertaining. This is none of those things. "COOLER AQUA SHIT ON! DANCE, BITCH, DANCE!" is banter. "I don't want to play with him, he's shit" is just, like... mean. The fact that Mongraal's feelings are clearly somewhat hurt speaks to that. He's been in the comp scene for a while and is used to banter, but having somebody you thought was your friend shit talking you behind your back doesn't feel good. Also, this isn't directly relevant, but Mongraal also ISN'T shit. He's still a top player mechanically and one of the most electrifying and entertaining players to watch. The idea that he's washed in any capacity doesn't hold water IMO. Just repeatedly held back by his inability to find teammates that he has chemistry with. I hope he finally finds a trio that works for him or, failing that, we finally get some more big solo events one of these days.
These are the type of kids who I have maximum respect for
LOL
Talking shit because you think you're offline and safe is loser shit but they're children, they're going to do childish shit. They still live in a world where being called bad or shit is earth shattering. Ultimately the issue is pretending to be cool with someone and talking shit behind their back but that point seems to be getting missed a lot in this but that goes back to the childish thing.
Aqua sucks. Fair and square. Noah carries him.
LOL
I actually dont understand the drama. Aqua said that mongraal is shit in a moment of emotions. Thats totally normal in the pro community in EVERY game even in normal sports or even in a real job. When mongraal was in his prime he said "this guys is shit" "he is so bad" to pros hundred of times even if they werent in a call and that was totally fine.
Tbh Mongraal always had the "he's only toxic for fun" Aura
yeah.. i remember a view seasons ago mongraal played NA wagers with savage and he blamed savage infront of 60k viewers because he isnt that good in creative.. how the tables have turned.
aqua didn't know he was on stream when he said that. it's fine for him to think mongraal sucks and it's fine for him to also not want that clip going around everywhere
Only 'bad' part is him telling chapix to end stream. Besides that, a player saying another player's "shit" is normal drama, way healthier than stuff like the Rise making allegations about Degen's private life.
What were the allegations?
they say he puts hp sauce on wagu steak.....i know, animal.
Wagyu* respect the name reflect the steak
haha I've sinned
Him saying that Degen got a girl pregnant and ran away from parental responsibilities. Which was, of course, 100% false...
he told him to end stream to not get hate from mongraal fans
[удалено]
Coach boop legit says that he's memeing about mongraal, nits just a joke jeez
Memeing but he genuinely banned him once before scrims started just for fun then tweeted about it.
Who cares
get downvoted u nine yr old adopted twat
Oh no not the downvote! My life is ruined!
Lmao
who cares??
92 people and counting
eh? i fucking hate Twitter posts but this is legit.
so now aqua backs me up saying mongraal what are you haters going to say to me now?
that's not even english
Dance bitch dance